Lec 20: Problem on Lossless Join Decomposition in DBMS | Check whether Decomposition is Lossless

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  • @hameed_ludba
    @hameed_ludba 4 года назад +42

    It is not dependency preserving as F can't determine A.
    Even at 1.5x speed I can understand her very easily and saves a lot of time. Thank you ma'am for your videos these are well explained.

    • @ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792
      @ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792 3 года назад +9

      I watch it at 2x

    • @ashleylove6840
      @ashleylove6840 2 года назад +3

      @@ruqaiyyaaslammalik1792 i watch it in 3X

    • @The_attacker99
      @The_attacker99 2 года назад +2

      @@ashleylove6840 😮 flash or wot

    • @pratham8275
      @pratham8275 8 месяцев назад

      Got that

    • @lem1.23
      @lem1.23 4 месяца назад +1

      bro i pause the video, and skip 10seconds take 2seconds to understand... that means it plays on 5x

  • @vibhavsamaga1693
    @vibhavsamaga1693 5 лет назад +15

    Ma'am u literally explained everything my teacher tried to teach for 1 week in 1 video!How do you do this ma'am.Keep it Up 👏❤😊

  • @JoffreyB
    @JoffreyB 5 лет назад +46

    I've watched and completed all 19 videos in "DBMS (Database Management System)" playlist. I'M SOOO READY FOR THE EXAM. BRING IT IN!!!!!
    BIG thanks from Russia. I've understood every single video I've watched and this happens rarely, because others don't explain some details over and over and sometimes you forget them and can't understand what's going on and what are we even doing. That's what I think you've done better than all of them. I've watched with every piece of a passion all your videos and wasn't bored once, but the main thing was - I UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING.
    One suggestion if you don't mind: sometimes, when you say: "if someConditionA, someConditionB, someConditionC are true, then we can say that it's lossless decomposition" it's better to back it up with some theorem or something, because for example when I'm gonna explain it to my teacher he might ask: "and why is that so? Why if these condition are true, then it's lossless decomposition?" and I probably won't be able to explain.
    So, yeah. Thanks again for all your effort, appreciate it very much, one of the best teachers on RUclips!

    • @soumyamitra7831
      @soumyamitra7831 4 года назад +1

      You can derive it yourself, just use a little bit of what Madam has taught. It's there but not like Theorem. She is teaching so that we can understand a bit better, you can get it as theorems in books.

  • @AnujKumar-tt5md
    @AnujKumar-tt5md 4 года назад +6

    Hello Ma'am... I watched your all DBMS videos🎥. You have done a tremendous work for the respective audience. Your explanation is extremely good.
    Your work truly helped me to revise the concepts after 10 yrs of completing my engineering..Thanks🙏

  • @JrundBerg
    @JrundBerg Год назад +28

    Answer for the last question: I got { C --> AB, AB ---> C, C --> DE, D --> EC, E --> F }. Comparing with the original FDs, the one I found does not contain F --> A, either directly or indirectly.

    • @arpitjaiswal5133
      @arpitjaiswal5133 Год назад +4

      Yes this is correct, So the R is not dependency preservation decomposition.

    • @sanjaysm783
      @sanjaysm783 7 месяцев назад

      How did E->D come? Could you spare some time explaining

    • @priyankasingh6792
      @priyankasingh6792 4 месяца назад

      C-->A and D-->E ..but I didn't get F-->A so this is not dependency preserving ..

    • @Payal_Ojha
      @Payal_Ojha Месяц назад

      But in second decomposition (C,D,E), the FDs are C-->DE, D-->EC and E-->CD, thus, final set should be {A->BC, B-->AC, C-->AB, C-->DE, D-->EC, E--> CD, E-->F, F-->E}. Thus, indirectly, F derives A and in this way, this is dependency preserving decomposition. As fas as I understood, please explain me if I'm wrong in any case.

  • @soumadipdas271
    @soumadipdas271 5 лет назад +2

    thank you ma'am, it's very helpful for campus and placement purposes as I am from ECE background and I don't have any idea about DBMS, thank you as I got place in 3 companies because of you ❤️❤️❤️, love from Kolkata🤩🤩😍😍😍😍😍

  • @anirudhdevpura2798
    @anirudhdevpura2798 4 года назад

    Mam, the growth of your channel itself shows how much students love your channel😊.

  • @shivamsahu3465
    @shivamsahu3465 5 лет назад +1

    I am a prefinal year student from Amity university, your videos are really helpful and easily understandable and after seeing your bloopers video I m in love with you,LOL😂

  • @sachinmishra5885
    @sachinmishra5885 5 лет назад +4

    Beauty + knowledge =Jenny Ma'am 🤘

  • @castmegently55
    @castmegently55 5 лет назад +2

    I'm new here from Pakistan, am trying to learning from your 1st videos. Hope I'll cover it soon. Your teaching way is easy to understand. Thank you. Bless you. 💐😊

  • @rumiNITPatna
    @rumiNITPatna Месяц назад

    thank u so much mam ! tomorrow is my end sem and ur videos are really helpful

  • @chandankumarms4288
    @chandankumarms4288 4 года назад +3

    PLEASE MAM CONTINUE THIS VEDIO LECTURES ON DBMS IT IS REALLY GOOD

  • @AhmadRazaNaveed
    @AhmadRazaNaveed 5 месяцев назад

    Mam you and your method of teaching so nice❤❤

  • @baryagameplay3757
    @baryagameplay3757 5 лет назад +2

    Best teacher and beautiful also 😄

  • @salmakd3586
    @salmakd3586 2 года назад

    I guess this video should come before #20 (the one preceding this). Thanks for all your amazing videos!

  • @sattiwrites3186
    @sattiwrites3186 4 года назад

    Big fan mam from Pakistan. your lecturers are very helpful...

  • @ChristopherKim-vt1qg
    @ChristopherKim-vt1qg Год назад +1

    YOU'RE THE GOAT

  • @zohaib166
    @zohaib166 2 года назад +1

    You always prove to be a life saver

  • @eagle_shadow6665
    @eagle_shadow6665 2 года назад +1

    Your lecture are awesome ,thanks a lot mam

  • @shrikant2820
    @shrikant2820 Год назад

    Best teacher ❤😊

  • @_suman__
    @_suman__ Год назад

    The schema R = (A, B, C, D, E) is given. Give a lossless-join decomposition into BCNF of schema R. A → BC CD → E B → D E → A.

  • @153chhaviagrawal2
    @153chhaviagrawal2 4 года назад +15

    The answer to the question is that it is not Dependency Preserving because F->A which is not present in G.

    • @asrafnizan4670
      @asrafnizan4670 3 года назад +3

      D->B is also not covered

    • @motorway9787
      @motorway9787 2 года назад

      bruh... F->E is also not there, but i thought if it is loseless join decomposition then it would be preserving dependency, but it is not so my answer and ur answer is same.

    • @ShahdsOneNightstand
      @ShahdsOneNightstand 2 года назад

      @@asrafnizan4670 yes it is because d determines c and c determines b so by transitivity d determines b

    • @divyarana9717
      @divyarana9717 2 года назад

      it is not dependency preserving because in subrelation 1= fd-null in sub relation 2=fd-null but in subrelation 3 fd-E->.F is there only
      so at the end we came to conculsion that it f1 U f2 U f3= f main.

    • @divyarana9717
      @divyarana9717 2 года назад

      not equal to

  • @sumeetsingh_96
    @sumeetsingh_96 Год назад +2

    This relation is not Dependency preserving decomposition. Because F cannot derive A. IN the union of (R1 U R2 U R3).

  • @pablohernanrechimon7362
    @pablohernanrechimon7362 4 года назад

    Como te quiero Jenny!!!! Que fácil haces todo!!!

  • @talent_hunt2
    @talent_hunt2 3 года назад

    Damm short vedio and all concepts are perfectly clear... thankyou mam

  • @4Explorer.
    @4Explorer. 3 года назад

    Ma'am I really appreciate your efforts 💗

  • @manalirajguru438
    @manalirajguru438 3 года назад +3

    Mam, thank you for such a wonderful session. I have got the ans for your last qsn as ‘ decomposition is not dependency preserving’ is it correct ?request you to please share the ans

  • @soumadipdas6043
    @soumadipdas6043 5 лет назад +3

    After watching this video I have decided to take computer science engineering in after finish my school

    • @darshu2062
      @darshu2062 4 года назад

      Are bhai thoda aur dekhle
      Itni jldi main decision nhi lena chahiye

  • @radhikasaini9333
    @radhikasaini9333 4 года назад

    The given question is not dependency preserving decomposition. I am right or wrong please tell me mam... You are really good ... 👍❤️❤️

  • @christopher123___
    @christopher123___ 10 месяцев назад

    Very Excellent videos maam

  • @sunshinetheuniverse5732
    @sunshinetheuniverse5732 2 года назад

    Thnku so much mam for easy explanation

  • @talentaptitude3017
    @talentaptitude3017 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much mam..this has helped me immensely

  • @ramsajivankushwaha487
    @ramsajivankushwaha487 5 лет назад +2

    Best teacher and cute also

  • @roniasatourian6789
    @roniasatourian6789 3 года назад

    amazing video thank you so much

  • @thongminh1159
    @thongminh1159 Год назад

    you saved me, thanks a lot

  • @dkdivakar699
    @dkdivakar699 Месяц назад

    Not a dependency preserving decomposion
    F->A and D->B are not preserved

  • @shubhamoybose2129
    @shubhamoybose2129 Год назад

    Thanks didi 🙂

  • @pannagabm2100
    @pannagabm2100 Год назад

    Tqqq mam... 🤩🤩

  • @uniqueversalunicorn2412
    @uniqueversalunicorn2412 3 месяца назад

    The given example is not dependency preserving.. because F cannot determine A in R3. Hence, the union of all the decomposed relations (R1, R2, R3) won't have F->A. Hence the result is NOT DEPENDENCY PRESERVING.

  • @abhinavpancholi4342
    @abhinavpancholi4342 2 года назад

    superb video mam

  • @anmolsinghal484
    @anmolsinghal484 5 лет назад +2

    Hello Mam i have been studying from you for a long time now and i want to thank you for making such helpful videos. However there is one question which is given to me as assignment in my college and i cant figure out a way to solve it. If you could help me with it.. it would be great. The question is:
    Assume we have one input queue, one output queue and a stack with its associated basic operations such as push and pop. No element from the output queue can be pushed into the stack. Also, once input from the input queue is pushed into stack it cannot be put back into the input queue. We can take elements from the input queue and push into the stack. At any time we can pop an element from the stack. However, if there is no element available in the input queue, then only pop operations are possible. A popped element should be always be placed into the output queue and cannot be pushed back on to the stack. The act of producing an output sequence from a given input sequence as explained is known as stack permutation. Suppose we have a sequence of k elements 1, 2, 3, ..., k available from the input queue. Generate all stack permutation of k elements. Clearly explain the nature of stack permutations and find out an expression for the number of stack permutations.
    i know i have commented the same comment on another post.. sorry or that ().

  • @vrajchokshi9731
    @vrajchokshi9731 5 лет назад +2

    Ma'am please make lectures for DCDR

  • @christianoronaldo1662
    @christianoronaldo1662 4 года назад +1

    Mam ,is the playlist complete? if NOT ,then please complete it as soon as possible . Placements are to become .

  • @NONAME_G_R_I_D_
    @NONAME_G_R_I_D_ 3 года назад

    Your videos are great! Thank you, Small question. Can the common attribute in a two relations be a composite key? Lets say the Composite key is the candidate key in one relation. can we say that it is Lossless? Thank you

  • @debasishmishra3507
    @debasishmishra3507 Год назад

    If you take first R2 and R3 then R23 is satisfy all three condition then combine with R1 and R23 all three condition is satisfy so i think this is lossless decomposition

  • @Anitakumari-hx4tl
    @Anitakumari-hx4tl 4 года назад +1

    Mam within how many days will u upload rest of the topics?

  • @aasthajain92
    @aasthajain92 2 года назад +1

    Great video

  • @sanjananayak9366
    @sanjananayak9366 Год назад

    Ma'am there was a doubt why it is not a lossless decomposition ? as C is a candidate key E is not but we have to find atleast one only right?

  • @devanshsaxena8064
    @devanshsaxena8064 5 лет назад +1

    maam plzz make a video on SHA algorithm

  • @momscookbook2222
    @momscookbook2222 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @sunilpoojari91
    @sunilpoojari91 4 года назад +7

    It is not dependency preserving.
    If anyone else has solved please let me know if I am correct or wrong.

  • @A1Tech6111
    @A1Tech6111 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks madam

  • @akshatchaudhary9393
    @akshatchaudhary9393 Год назад

    not necessarily candidate key.. it can be super key too

  • @anngrahdhar7400
    @anngrahdhar7400 Год назад

    It is not dependency preserving

  • @DebashisSaha-xh9jy
    @DebashisSaha-xh9jy 10 месяцев назад

    Thank You mam

  • @vishalraina1898
    @vishalraina1898 4 года назад +21

    F->A not covered...so not dependency preserving

    • @kallakurianirudh9055
      @kallakurianirudh9055 3 года назад +1

      C->D also
      not covered so not dependency preserving

    • @aravintha6166
      @aravintha6166 3 года назад +3

      @@kallakurianirudh9055 C->DE here C determines D so here D->EF and F->A are not covered

  • @deluluatul
    @deluluatul Год назад

    Thank you man

  • @darthdaenerys
    @darthdaenerys 2 года назад

    Not dp as F->A is not present in the union of all the sub relations

  • @kshitizpathak7289
    @kshitizpathak7289 5 лет назад

    Mam .. Please make videos Design and Analysis of Algorithms (DAA) after DBMS

  • @ArvindSingh-wj7vy
    @ArvindSingh-wj7vy 5 лет назад +1

    Mam plz make more videos of DBMS
    Why u stoped making videos of DBMS?
    I will suffer much because of thus😥

  • @VamsiKrishna-ym3cr
    @VamsiKrishna-ym3cr 3 года назад

    Is the common attribute should be candidate key or it can be super key ...?cause in previous videos at some point you told it was super key and after that you are saying for candidate key all the time...

  • @princepratikvines2555
    @princepratikvines2555 4 года назад

    Mam please make on design and analysis algorithm

  • @PavanKumar-di4yy
    @PavanKumar-di4yy 2 года назад

    Super mam

  • @saivarun1748
    @saivarun1748 4 года назад

    It's Not dependency preserving

  • @prernadhiman8731
    @prernadhiman8731 3 года назад

    Mam when are you going to make videos on multivalued ,4 th and 5th normal form??

  • @akshaywagh9157
    @akshaywagh9157 2 года назад

    AB-c is also

  • @sahithi_sribhashyam
    @sahithi_sribhashyam 3 года назад

    mam if we have two common attributes in given decomposed subrelations then we should find closure for both attributes???

  • @imshubh17
    @imshubh17 5 лет назад +2

    I'm first viewer🤗😘

  • @aviralkhanduja5834
    @aviralkhanduja5834 3 года назад +1

    MAM PLEASE UPLOAD 4TH AND 5TH NF

  • @radhikasaini9333
    @radhikasaini9333 4 года назад

    Mam ap relational model or ER model par BHI viedo bna do please...

  • @prathmeshsharma7628
    @prathmeshsharma7628 5 лет назад

    Please make videos on Linux os and c++

  • @amasiancovers4779
    @amasiancovers4779 Год назад

    Why all are saying F->A not covered?,F->A is there right? Because in dependency EF,when finding F closure we get F->A right? Then how F->A is not there?i cant understand

  • @anishjoshi1999
    @anishjoshi1999 3 года назад

    Thank you mam

  • @ankitrastogi8719
    @ankitrastogi8719 4 года назад

    Hi ,Jenny ma^m,pls make videos on System Analysis and Design.

  • @CodeExpress99
    @CodeExpress99 5 лет назад

    Mam' theory of automata , kaa bhi lecture upload kar do .....plzzzz🙏🙏🙏

  • @akshaywagh9157
    @akshaywagh9157 2 года назад

    E is candidate key

  • @MohitRaj-do8gv
    @MohitRaj-do8gv 5 лет назад

    Mam please upload all the alogo from cormen book.

  • @lingamurthylingamurthy4083
    @lingamurthylingamurthy4083 5 лет назад

    Please keep data structures in order mam

  • @mahmoodtashaf
    @mahmoodtashaf 4 года назад

    Is it the end of DBMS tutorial?

  • @Touay
    @Touay 4 года назад

    Wow i like ur coat mam !
    It's osmmm

  • @bongnemesis1057
    @bongnemesis1057 4 года назад

    Mam what happen if there is no super key?

  • @jainarayananr8679
    @jainarayananr8679 2 года назад

    Can someone please tell me how to get the FDs of each decomposed relations in which mam has asked us to check Dependency Preserving condition

  • @kallakurianirudh9055
    @kallakurianirudh9055 3 года назад

    C->D not covered so not dependency preserving

  • @Cookiesandnuts
    @Cookiesandnuts Год назад

    Where did f go ?

  • @kavitarani5891
    @kavitarani5891 4 года назад

    Mam I have problem in few questions...... Can you please help me with that

  • @praveenkumar-wh1qg
    @praveenkumar-wh1qg 5 лет назад

    NET paper first ki preparation kaise ki aapne. Can u please share with us

  • @elaksuthra6324
    @elaksuthra6324 5 лет назад

    ma'am when will you do the lecture for TOC, DAA. pls am waiting

  • @ashubehera115
    @ashubehera115 5 лет назад +1

    Mam please add coa lessons

  • @harshittiwari2281
    @harshittiwari2281 5 лет назад

    thanks mam ... nd ha kdi hss v liya kro ;)

  • @kingmaker9082
    @kingmaker9082 2 года назад +15

    Sweet speed is 1.5x . Thank me later.

  • @neerajprakash4271
    @neerajprakash4271 5 лет назад

    Jenny meri jaan 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @souravssg
    @souravssg 5 лет назад +1

    maam video daliye kaha hay aap, no videos for 20 days......

    • @JennyslecturesCSIT
      @JennyslecturesCSIT  5 лет назад +2

      I am under medical supervision and on a complete bed rest ...

    • @souravssg
      @souravssg 5 лет назад +1

      @@JennyslecturesCSIT Sry maam
      I didn't know about it
      Take rest madam
      Get well soon madam

  • @mytravellingtales_
    @mytravellingtales_ 5 лет назад +2

    What are your qualifications? Are you from any tier 1 college? How peoples are comparing you to IIT profs. ? Please tell your qualifications nation wants to know :D

  • @FINANCIALYOGI
    @FINANCIALYOGI 4 года назад +1

    Question of Dependency preserving Decomposition: R(ABCDEF) FD F(AB-C, C-D, D-EF, F-A, D-B)
    Decomposed(ABC, CDE, EF). This not dependency preserving Decomposition as Decomposed relation attributes can't determine F attribute. Dependency D-F of F FD is not in G FD. Kindly advise where I can see yr videos for 4NF and 5NF and decomposition methods

    • @soumyamitra7831
      @soumyamitra7831 4 года назад +1

      Umm.... NO. In G i.e. F1 U F2 U F3 = { AB->C, C->AB, C->DE, D->CE, E->F } So, clearly, by transitive property, we can conclude D->F, so, that's there in F too and not the reason for failing to preserve dependency. Rather it is F->A which is the responsible.

  • @Anitakumari-hx4tl
    @Anitakumari-hx4tl 4 года назад

    Not DP

  • @KrishnaPandit1999
    @KrishnaPandit1999 3 года назад

    This is not DP.

  • @Gg-pq3bq
    @Gg-pq3bq 5 лет назад +1

    🥰

  • @HunterAG
    @HunterAG 5 лет назад

    ♥️

  • @aviralkhanduja5834
    @aviralkhanduja5834 3 года назад

    not dependency preserving as AB->C and F->A are not present

  • @vivekkumaryadav5977
    @vivekkumaryadav5977 5 лет назад

    Ma'am PHP script Ki video banao