These guys assume the free agents want to come to NE. They also assume if NE wants to make a trade, the other team and the player will automatically agree to it.
Didn't the Bears allow Fields to pick his team. They seem to be forgetting that over and over. These players just don't want to be in NE. I don't blame them.
Bro I’m a huge pats fan, give the organization a chance to rebuild! It’s the first time in 20 years the organization had to do this. Like Brady spoiled everyone, tired of all the complaining, the season hasn’t even started
Smith wanted to go to the Jets... the Jets were shocked he took their offer. He turned down bigger contracts... It wasn't the contract they needed to beat.
Exactly. He wanted to play with Aaron Rodgers. They are both older veterans who think they have one more chance at a Super Bowl and like one season left.
Of course they weren't going to make a big splash move, and yet they are still one of the biggest spenders. This is how you rebuild. Getting stupid and 'burning cash' doesn't help. You build through the draft, not free agency.
Why does everyone assume NE didn’t reach out to these guys they missed out on? Why do they also assume the deal the player signed for was available to NE? You really think veteran FA’s who have already made millions want to come to a last place team in the northeast? Be realistic.
They did reach out to ridley but it sounds like they didnt want to match the offer he got. The pats are in the situation where they have to overpay for people now. New coach, no real qb, very expensive area of the country to live in
This isn't 2014 where Tom Brady is your QB and the big splash was signing Revis. Pats have made good moves that will keep the team consistent for the next few years, which is EXACTLY what a rookie QB needs. Inconsistency was one of the main reasons for Mac Jones downfall. Once again Felger you are wrong, which is kinda par for the course for you 😂
This is how to build out a bad team, get younger develop younger players wait your opportunities and plod along carefully. As others have said there will be players available before and after the draft and Barmore and Judon need to be resigned. We will be able to run the ball play action pass and control the ball and line of scrimmage, (no turnovers) "patience grasshopper".
How could they make a big splash when the free agency class had no big splashes in it? You guys make no sense. The best receiver was a number two option.
Many longtime fans like myself knew Bill was the main reason for the collapse since Brady left..so I gave the Pats a second chance after the firing.....since then..secret hiring of Mayo as HC..now a Belichick like FA period...draft is the last resort for this fan...if I feel they screw this draft up...looking for another team to support in 2024...This team just doesnt want to win anymore.
Rebuilding takes time man, these boys wanna have 1 season of a rebuild that’s not how it works. Gotta first have these players buy in to the regime wit Mayo n next year if we build something like the Texans did free agents will see we got something special but the draft is crucial
I like the signings. First off-season addressing depth and youth maybe swing a big trade and then swing in 2nd wave free agency and finally release and late season trade market.
Why would pats draft a qb at 3 after passing on a top/affordable tackle & the top free agent receiver? They’re trading down and building for years to come. Don’t expect a major turnaround in just 1 off season
These guys are missing the point they want young talent.. signing these old veterans doesn’t allow the young guys to develop..And you can’t assume players want to come to New England no matter how much money you offer them
They’re gonna go all offense in the draft & they should. But they coulda added defensive players through free agency. Defense was okay not elite they couldn’t get any pressure when judon was out. & seems they always end the season with 0 healthy corners
Thats the problem when you do t draft well and have holes in all premium positions…..the few that goes test the market they will comand unreal prices and you need to overpay for it
No they didn't need to build from bottom. They needed to spend money.....J Kraft's money... on one top tier player. Not a bunch of top tier players, just one top tier player would have gone a long way.....and they were too damn cheap and/or cowardly...as Felger forcefully explained.
Pats couldve got Fields for a5th...Keenan Allen for a 4th...signed Smith from Dallas at OT...that would be a successful FA...but they failed in every area of NEED.
"He hasn't played 16 games since the Obama administration" so you guys hear yourselves??? Do you want them to just waste money so you could complain about the same guys you're now wanting???
It's extremely disappointing so far. Unless they start to make some high-end trades with teams for Pro Bowl talent players, might as well have left Bill Belichick in charge, he would have done this much so far in free agency.
Man is Felger on point with his opinion. The deal was Belichick got fired because he had not won enough. Wolf/Mayo better execute one hell of a draft and get great players who are ready to play now. The guys Wolf has brought in so far are guys Bill would bring in!! Not going to cut it!!
Amazing how NE went from the place to be to the place no one wants to be. Even when they were reported to be in contention for a big name player those players without exception chose someplace else to go. No big name WR want to go to NE with qb position unsolved, but at the same time all the QB's will look mediocre due to not having top notch WR's to throw to. My opinion...they should pick Harrison at #3 and get try to get Raddler or Penix at #34. Get the wide out who can make Brissett look like a superstar and draft a trainable QB to start in 2025.
Smith never wanted to go anywhere other than Aaron Rodgers. He’s very old too. He probably has one season left. I’m very happy with what the Patriots have done. We are rebuilding the team. What did you guys expect for the patriots to go out and win the Super Bowl this year lol. Jesus, you guys don’t know Football at all. You know, baseball and hockey and that’s it.
I thought i trusted Elliott Wolfe but i dont no free angency moves to help the team and build through draft they better nail the draft because no free agency moves pathetic cheap krafts as usual 3 and 13 next year
Mike Williams is out there Justin Simmons is out there we need both players chase young come on cheap ass NE PATRIOTS DISAPPOINTING CHEAP KRAFTS WE NEED FREE ANGENCY TO HELP OUR TEAM BUILD FOR THE FUTURE BUT NO MOVES WITH REALLY GOOD PLAYERS AT POSITIONS OF NEED AND NOTHING SAD
This downfall is all on Kraft. Never paid Brady, never had a successor, drafted jones, signed FA bums, ran Bill out and hired Mayo. He’s a clown. The team was good because star players came in cheap because they knew Brady could take them to the Super Bowl. Those days are long gone
You had $...you needed OT/WR/QB....Smith OT gone...Allen WR 4th too much...Wilson/Fields were given away..not interested/instead signed worst backup in league. Front office has no clue..I still believe Bill is still here..Mayo/his clone.
We are so bad as a team but it still baffles me ppl want qb. Yea Mac is shit but so were his wr core and o line. So far it looks like the same line up sure new faces ok. But still not an upgrade. Just decent replacements. Jayden or maye is gonna be just as dog shit as mac was with how poor we tackled the fa. I don't have faith in the draft cuz we got holes. And we done nothing in fa. I ain't impressed
This show is for dummies obviously. The Pats tried to get Ridley but would have had to outbid Titans by making him the highest paid WR guaranteed $ ever. That would have been stupid. He will be 30 this season. Not signing him on those terms was the right move. There are a ton of good WRs in the draft. Take a QB at #3 and a WR like Mitchell from Texas with the 2nd round pick.
So you sign Smith the tackle and he plays 4 games because he's always injured. So that's a great signing you 3 geniuses? "Team friendly" deal and you're all mad at the Pats for not signing an old, oft injured left tackle? I think having a player actually PLAY is priority 1, not what the stupid deal is.
Give me just one reason why to buy a ticket to watch this team this fall? Its not to win games because Pats front office does not want to win in 2024...Make fall plans that dont include the Patriots..trash..2-15.
Without Brady the Kraft ownership isn't any better from Victor Kiams time. I liked the product I bought the company versus I have Brady I'm a great owner .
Kraft knows he’s too old and he’s planning to sell the team so he’s not spending he’s money on something he’s no longer invested in, im the only one with the wits about me I guess but this is to blatant because it’s almost like sabotage because why build for the next owner when u can keep those millions to your family, there gonna leave mayo and that team high and dry once they sell mark my words, too obvious for a franchise like us to move this non chap at after the krafts are lucky where still buying season tickets after last year.F tha pats and I’m a die hard🤯
A. You two are punting on the offseason waaay too early ad whining about players who were never going to move the needle for the money that they were asking. B. OF COURSE IT'S A BRIDGE YEAR! So, don't be a fair-weather fan. Money burned on the first batch of free agents is money that can't be used later.
DRAKE MAYE IS VERY GOOD OPTION FOR PATRIOTS! HE IS 6’5 SOMETIMES HE RUN THEN HE THROW THE BALL! HE MOVES LIKE JOSH ALLEN TOO! AND DRAKE VERY ACCURATE LIKE MICHAEL PENIX! WE HAVE TO GET DRAKE MAYE AND DRAFT TALENT WR IN ROUND 2. DRAFT TE IN ROUND 3. ROUND 4 DRAFT TALENT WR AGAIN.
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These guys assume the free agents want to come to NE. They also assume if NE wants to make a trade, the other team and the player will automatically agree to it.
Would you want to go to a place where felger and mazz cover the team? Dudes are strange!
its hilarious to listen to, these guys love assuming lol. They know everything....
Didn't the Bears allow Fields to pick his team. They seem to be forgetting that over and over. These players just don't want to be in NE. I don't blame them.
If he had a chance to start here maybe he would’ve chose NE?
@@wrongwayranger4736 your assuming NE wasn't one of the 4 teams he said no to. That was kind of my point.
I heard Fields only wanted the Steelers. So, if Pittsburg said, "No", was he going to retire?
yeah, players have choices! people don’t seem to like or understand that.
Bro I’m a huge pats fan, give the organization a chance to rebuild! It’s the first time in 20 years the organization had to do this. Like Brady spoiled everyone, tired of all the complaining, the season hasn’t even started
TSmith wanted a ring so he wants to the Jets and Rogers!
Smith wanted to go to the Jets... the Jets were shocked he took their offer. He turned down bigger contracts... It wasn't the contract they needed to beat.
Exactly. He wanted to play with Aaron Rodgers. They are both older veterans who think they have one more chance at a Super Bowl and like one season left.
So sick of "He sucks! He blows!" Tony definitely cut a LOT of classes after lunch at Tufts! He makes Fred Smerlas sound like a valedictorian!
Of course they weren't going to make a big splash move, and yet they are still one of the biggest spenders. This is how you rebuild. Getting stupid and 'burning cash' doesn't help. You build through the draft, not free agency.
Building through the draft is the cheap way. You can also rebuild & try to get better
CaUsE wE dRaFt So WeLl if the draft sucks i don't want to hear any of you fake fans saying Bill was the problem
Aaron typical pats fan 😂😂😴chiefs 3peat coming 🩸
Lol, I didn't think I'd be triggering the crybabies today 😂
@@aarondelisle7693 you'll be the one crying about your hero wolf blows the draft
I couldn't agree more with these takes. I was pissed about the Allen, Fields, and Smith deals. Sent me over the edge. Pissssed!!!
Playing out that BB took the arrows for guys who don't want to pay ... not shocked at all.
Why does everyone assume NE didn’t reach out to these guys they missed out on? Why do they also assume the deal the player signed for was available to NE? You really think veteran FA’s who have already made millions want to come to a last place team in the northeast? Be realistic.
THIS!!
They did reach out to ridley but it sounds like they didnt want to match the offer he got. The pats are in the situation where they have to overpay for people now. New coach, no real qb, very expensive area of the country to live in
Kraft never spends too cap bill has been a scapegoat for robert the miser
This isn't 2014 where Tom Brady is your QB and the big splash was signing Revis. Pats have made good moves that will keep the team consistent for the next few years, which is EXACTLY what a rookie QB needs. Inconsistency was one of the main reasons for Mac Jones downfall. Once again Felger you are wrong, which is kinda par for the course for you 😂
That man said GB doesn’t draft well…. I’m not even mad just disappointed
Many teams make cuts after the draft, lots of veterans will become available and if you have money/cap space you might find a fit.
Absolutely. It happens every year. I haven’t heard anyone talk about that.
The Pats are going to built on the Draft
CaUsE wE dRaFt So wElL
This is how to build out a bad team, get younger develop younger players wait your opportunities and plod along carefully. As others have said there will be players available before and after the draft and Barmore and Judon need to be resigned. We will be able to run the ball play action pass and control the ball and line of scrimmage, (no turnovers) "patience grasshopper".
They don’t wannna come here! , what you think they didn’t try ?!
How could they make a big splash when the free agency class had no big splashes in it? You guys make no sense. The best receiver was a number two option.
Draft and suck, true words.
3-14 is being nice/2-15 more likely.
Many longtime fans like myself knew Bill was the main reason for the collapse since Brady left..so I gave the Pats a second chance after the firing.....since then..secret hiring of Mayo as HC..now a Belichick like FA period...draft is the last resort for this fan...if I feel they screw this draft up...looking for another team to support in 2024...This team just doesnt want to win anymore.
Patriots fans are spoiled brats. They can’t handle being a rebuilding team so they jump ship 😂😂😂
Rebuilding takes time man, these boys wanna have 1 season of a rebuild that’s not how it works. Gotta first have these players buy in to the regime wit Mayo n next year if we build something like the Texans did free agents will see we got something special but the draft is crucial
Shut up Felger! Get a LT, MLB, WR, CB.
I like the signings. First off-season addressing depth and youth maybe swing a big trade and then swing in 2nd wave free agency and finally release and late season trade market.
Why would pats draft a qb at 3 after passing on a top/affordable tackle & the top free agent receiver? They’re trading down and building for years to come. Don’t expect a major turnaround in just 1 off season
These guys are missing the point they want young talent.. signing these old veterans doesn’t allow the young guys to develop..And you can’t assume players want to come to New England no matter how much money you offer them
They’re gonna go all offense in the draft & they should. But they coulda added defensive players through free agency. Defense was okay not elite they couldn’t get any pressure when judon was out. & seems they always end the season with 0 healthy corners
Thats the problem when you do t draft well and have holes in all premium positions…..the few that goes test the market they will comand unreal prices and you need to overpay for it
why would they make a splash.. we are crap be gotta build up from the bottom.
Idk maybe because we have the last ranked offense in the league last year .
No they didn't need to build from bottom. They needed to spend money.....J Kraft's money... on one top tier player. Not a bunch of top tier players, just one top tier player would have gone a long way.....and they were too damn cheap and/or cowardly...as Felger forcefully explained.
@@user-pn5rb8sp3bwas not much out there in free agency.. and its not like we are prime location now.
@@quiggs111 loser talk. all loser talk.
Pats couldve got Fields for a5th...Keenan Allen for a 4th...signed Smith from Dallas at OT...that would be a successful FA...but they failed in every area of NEED.
"He hasn't played 16 games since the Obama administration" so you guys hear yourselves??? Do you want them to just waste money so you could complain about the same guys you're now wanting???
These guys act like players don't have any say in where they go in free agency lol.
Correct
Tyron smith injured all the time.
It's extremely disappointing so far. Unless they start to make some high-end trades with teams for Pro Bowl talent players, might as well have left Bill Belichick in charge, he would have done this much so far in free agency.
Man is Felger on point with his opinion. The deal was Belichick got fired because he had not won enough. Wolf/Mayo better execute one hell of a draft and get great players who are ready to play now. The guys Wolf has brought in so far are guys Bill would bring in!! Not going to cut it!!
This team will not win 3 games this year..BET.
Fans are crying about Ridley more than Hopkins ion get it
Amazing how NE went from the place to be to the place no one wants to be. Even when they were reported to be in contention for a big name player those players without exception chose someplace else to go. No big name WR want to go to NE with qb position unsolved, but at the same time all the QB's will look mediocre due to not having top notch WR's to throw to.
My opinion...they should pick Harrison at #3 and get try to get Raddler or Penix at #34. Get the wide out who can make Brissett look like a superstar and draft a trainable QB to start in 2025.
Smith never wanted to go anywhere other than Aaron Rodgers. He’s very old too. He probably has one season left. I’m very happy with what the Patriots have done. We are rebuilding the team. What did you guys expect for the patriots to go out and win the Super Bowl this year lol. Jesus, you guys don’t know Football at all. You know, baseball and hockey and that’s it.
I thought i trusted Elliott Wolfe but i dont no free angency moves to help the team and build through draft they better nail the draft because no free agency moves pathetic cheap krafts as usual 3 and 13 next year
Mike Williams is out there Justin Simmons is out there we need both players chase young come on cheap ass NE PATRIOTS DISAPPOINTING CHEAP KRAFTS WE NEED FREE ANGENCY TO HELP OUR TEAM BUILD FOR THE FUTURE BUT NO MOVES WITH REALLY GOOD PLAYERS AT POSITIONS OF NEED AND NOTHING SAD
No one wants to play in NE , they will need to draft better then they have
Kraft won't spend
DRaft...skip the QB at #3 and get Harrison. draft Raddler at #34 to train him to start in 2024
Felger devaluing their stratgey to draft. saying any team can draft then he says they better nail the draft.
This downfall is all on Kraft. Never paid Brady, never had a successor, drafted jones, signed FA bums, ran Bill out and hired Mayo. He’s a clown. The team was good because star players came in cheap because they knew Brady could take them to the Super Bowl. Those days are long gone
Agreed 100%...players dont want to play for idiots..that is who we support.
100 percent then scapegoated belichek with Phil Perry and Tom Curran as his mouthpiece
You had $...you needed OT/WR/QB....Smith OT gone...Allen WR 4th too much...Wilson/Fields were given away..not interested/instead signed worst backup in league. Front office has no clue..I still believe Bill is still here..Mayo/his clone.
4 wins if lucky
Mazz is a scrub 🤣🤣🤡
Most of these FA’s are on short deals for low money 🤷🏻♂️
We are so bad as a team but it still baffles me ppl want qb. Yea Mac is shit but so were his wr core and o line. So far it looks like the same line up sure new faces ok. But still not an upgrade. Just decent replacements. Jayden or maye is gonna be just as dog shit as mac was with how poor we tackled the fa. I don't have faith in the draft cuz we got holes. And we done nothing in fa. I ain't impressed
The Patriots real goal in 2024...1st pick in 25 draft...BET.
This show is for dummies obviously. The Pats tried to get Ridley but would have had to outbid Titans by making him the highest paid WR guaranteed $ ever. That would have been stupid. He will be 30 this season. Not signing him on those terms was the right move. There are a ton of good WRs in the draft. Take a QB at #3 and a WR like Mitchell from Texas with the 2nd round pick.
Mayo was being sarcastic about the cash burning joke.
He's a frustrated stand up comic.
We are already burning cash, we have wasted a lot on bad players lol
So much complaining lol… sheesh
So you sign Smith the tackle and he plays 4 games because he's always injured. So that's a great signing you 3 geniuses? "Team friendly" deal and you're all mad at the Pats for not signing an old, oft injured left tackle? I think having a player actually PLAY is priority 1, not what the stupid deal is.
Give me just one reason why to buy a ticket to watch this team this fall? Its not to win games because Pats front office does not want to win in 2024...Make fall plans that dont include the Patriots..trash..2-15.
This show is doubling down on dumb
They will suck in the draft...look out...its G/CB/K 1st 3 rounds...lol.
Without Brady the Kraft ownership isn't any better from Victor Kiams time. I liked the product I bought the company versus I have Brady I'm a great owner .
I have a bad feeling the Pats are going to blow the #3 pick.
Kraft knows he’s too old and he’s planning to sell the team so he’s not spending he’s money on something he’s no longer invested in, im the only one with the wits about me I guess but this is to blatant because it’s almost like sabotage because why build for the next owner when u can keep those millions to your family, there gonna leave mayo and that team high and dry once they sell mark my words, too obvious for a franchise like us to move this non chap at after the krafts are lucky where still buying season tickets after last year.F tha pats and I’m a die hard🤯
It is as if the Patriots and Red Sox have the same ownership.
If tee and Pittman didn’t get tagged then it would be different
And everyone said it was Bill. It was Kraft. Hes a Schmuck
A. You two are punting on the offseason waaay too early ad whining about players who were never going to move the needle for the money that they were asking. B. OF COURSE IT'S A BRIDGE YEAR! So, don't be a fair-weather fan. Money burned on the first batch of free agents is money that can't be used later.
Tyron Smith is old and washed up. Clearly you guys dont watch football anymore. Best left tackle in football????????
Who cares about the packers they got two chips in like 20 years, y’all just love to talk shit
You guys sound like a bunch of spoiled brats lol
DRAKE MAYE IS VERY GOOD OPTION FOR PATRIOTS! HE IS 6’5 SOMETIMES HE RUN THEN HE THROW THE BALL! HE MOVES LIKE JOSH ALLEN TOO! AND DRAKE VERY ACCURATE LIKE MICHAEL PENIX! WE HAVE TO GET DRAKE MAYE AND DRAFT TALENT WR IN ROUND 2. DRAFT TE IN ROUND 3. ROUND 4 DRAFT TALENT WR AGAIN.