Good review. I've been camping out the last couple of months in Vermont and recently got his hooded sleeping bag which I love. I have the pad cover under me and the Trifecta bivvy over me like a blanket. It's going down to 13 tonight here, and I'm pretty sure that gear with long underwear will keep me toasty. He's a very thoughful guy. I think he's making the best gear out there. The down hood is detachable and makes the big difference. Reflective material in his sleeping bag too.
I haven't tried this product but have his other ones and to me his products are well worth the money and the customer service is juts of the hook! he has old school things like integrity etc that are just slimy absent in the market place today. I am a big fan of 2 go systems and this item as of right now is currently out of stock but ill keep my eyes open. nice review and thank you.
Wow, I had checked this out a while back, based upon our conversation, but glad to see that you finally received the tarp! It is a little pricey, but at the same time it is innovative, and high quality, and as you mentioned, comes with great customer service, so probably worth the price. This would probably come min handy in sunny and tree less desert areas to reflect sun, and of course in rainy environments, especially when tropical with high solar radiation. I wonder if the tarp need to be re-proofed, and whether the the tarp will stand up to ultra violet light for an extended period of time. Anyway, thanks for another great product review.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills I shared your video link with 20, or so, established RUclips channel video producers. Perhaps you will get more views and subscribers.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad the information is useful for you. I've reviewed a bunch of these sort of tarps and it's easy to recommend this one even though it's a little bit on the expensive side.
Great review. Would like to see the Super Shelter setup and temp results with this tarp during winer months. Any chance you can do a Tarp Shootout comparing your best/latest tarps?
I might do a few more tarp videos this summer. I have 5 that haven't been on camera yet and two of those won't even be for sale anywhere until at least August.
Thanks for the video. I've been looking at this for a while. THE ALUMINUM COATING IS NOT A UNIQUE IDEA. There is a tent (laavu) from Finland that uses the same idea. I've been looking at it for at least a year, and it wasn't a new product then. That said, this tarp looks good, except for the mention in one of their ads or on their website, to be sure to shock cord the ground stakes, especially in windy conditions. The material is only rated for a 40 lb stress and could tear. I'm still ordering one to test, then several if I like the first one.
The last I heard, he is redesigning the outside tie outs and this product should be back soon. I can testify that he's good about returning email and answering questions, so for the best information possible, I suggest emailing him via the link on his website.
I think they are getting a re-design and will be back soon. I got an email from Brian today explaining that the outside tie-outs (the non-reinforced ones) aren't holding up to the level of his standards. I could make some guesses as to the nature of the problem... and my money is on average-joe-user refusing to use his brain... but what I can say for sure is that mine is fine and I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with for a version 2.
I'm on the hunt for a tarp that I can use in the desert. Something that acts as a black out tarp would be ideal. I was thinking something that looks like this. What's your thoughts.
With the reflective side facing out, this is as close as you'll get while still maintaining a manageable weight. If weight isn't an issue (example: ATV or Jeep carrying it instead of your backpack), the Aqua Quest defender camo tarps have a very, very thick polyurethane coating and provide good shade, but not a black-out. Another option to consider is simple and cheap: You could use any tarp you want and split a 4-6ml drum liner down the seam and use it as a second layer inside your tarp. I've used a drum liner like that to get enough darkness to sleep during the day out in the badlands more than a couple of times.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills Good information buddy thanks . weight is an issue on this occasion but I will do trip were it's less so. this tarp could be an option for me here. I contacted the company to see if they ship to the UK. if not I'm going to think about making or commissioning own. thanks for the response
Loved the video, but your wrong about it being a new Idea. This idea was done years and years and years before you made this by Outbound for their Quick Silver 3 and Qick Silver 6 Tent series. The fly's were all reversible reflective material! Just had to throw that out there at you... If you ever want to see the Quicksilver, I can take pictures of mine and show you first hand. But hats off! Any camping video's are a good thing in my opinion. Great job and looks like a solid product.
First of your videos I’ve seen. Great freaking job! I feel informed! I have Brian’s Trifecta and am now considering this tarp even though I have a Snugpak “All Weather” tarp.
No. It was a tie out that I didn't put a drip leg on that allowed some rain to run underneath. It's good evidence that the hammock guys are giving good advice about tying on a drip leg on every tie out.
I just discovered your channel right when I need to! I'm in the market for a "budget" tarp shelter and I think this one is it. Mostly 5 day or so trips in the southeast. Thanks for the very detailed vids and reviews, great job! Also a question, what is the purpose for the double tie outs along the ridge line? What can they do that a single tie out couldn't. I honestly don't know.
I probably should have spent a couple of minutes on those double tie outs on the center seam. 1) Two is stronger than one. 2) They face opposite directions so even if you use only one of them it expands the usefulness depending on what you're tying out to and where it is in relation to your tarp. 3) You can use both in different directions to increase stability in the wind (more on that in a moment). 4) and 4 might be most important: Using a toggle (a stick or maybe a tent peg) to connect your rope to them is way easier and way stronger going through two loops instead of one. ... My imagination could probably come up with more reasons/uses and in fact while testing, I pitched one of these on a double ridge line (wrapped the rope around two trees so there were two ridge lines about 12 inches apart because that's how thick the two trees were) thinking it could provide a lot of stability in the wind... but I never found out for sure because the expected wind storm never materialized that day. Logic seems to dictate that was a good idea, but I never collected any data for evidence.
Thanks for another great review. I need another tarp like I need a hole in the head, but with the colder weather coming, and after this recommendation, one of these is definitely going in the cart. Only need to make up my mind on size/shape. You've cost me a bunch of money, but I've yet to regret buying something you've recommended. Thanks again.
I ran across your videos and found them very informative. I did notice that you don't do videos very often now. Are you going to keep making videos or are you fading them out?
Long explanation: I'll be back to doing videos eventually. There are a couple of factors keeping me from creating new ones right now. 1) My dad sold the farm so after spending my summer cleaning out the barns and the house, I'm left without such a nice private and convenient place to do vids. There's plenty of mountains, forest, prairie, lakes, and creek bottoms in Montana, so that excuse isn't going to keep stopping me much longer. And then there's the big one: 2) I'm not pleased with how google/youtube is treating a lot of folks right now. The gun channels... some of the political commentators... and even little "outdoor gear" channels like mine (not sure what to call the bushcraft, outdoor gear, hiking, hunting etc channels - youtube doesn't really have a category for us). As an example, one of my videos currently demonetized is about how to build a long burning camp fire. I think that one was in restricted mode for a while too. They say it isn't suitable for advertizers or all audiences. No rough language, no nudity, no political talk, no nothing, just discussion about making fire for cooking and sleeping near... and as another example, my video on the Ontario Rat-1folding knife in D2 was demonetized with no explanation so I deleted and re-uploaded it... just to have it demonetized again without explanation. It only got 3 or 4 thousand views so the fifty cents or a buck I might have made isn't really the issue. The issue is that the decision to demonetize was completely arbitrary and nothing in that video breaks the rules. After I disputed it, they turned monetization back on... but long after the majority of views it would get had already happened. So, as of this moment, I don't think I can trust google/youtube to live up to their end of the bargain. .. And it gets worse: I took a bunch of their creators classes online and participated in some of their events designed to teach me to generate better content. I invested quite a lot of money in to better cameras, audio equipment, and editing software. I did every single thing they wanted me to do... and the reward is that I can't trust them not to demonetize my whole channel any time they feel like it and/or bury my videos so deep that no one will ever be able to find them. ... I spent a year and a half trying to figure out how to make better content and gearing up to make better content because youtube wanted me to... I bought in to their claims that if I worked at it hard enough and continued to make better content that I might actually be able to make a job/career out of youtubing... And then they started demonetizing every single thing that get any random complaint from any random viewer who feels offended by something... and they started putting all sorts of absolutely benign videos (see PragerU's channel) in restricted mode while offering no reasons for doing so. I guess if all I was here for was to make some dollars, I'd do SJW Fluffy SnowFlake Cat videos.... then make an app I could sell to CNN and get my millions and get out. Sorry for the long winded rant, but that's the state of things right now. I feel like I'd be safer on youtube teaching college kids how to make quiche in a toaster oven ... In fact, I should note that as a good idea because that's a video that might get a million views every fall.
The point of that exercise was to demonstrate that Kelty doesn't even claim the Noah's tarp is waterproof. It can barely be called water resistant and Kelty makes exactly no claim that product is waterproof... but tons of "reviewers" say it is and lie about their experiences with it even claiming to have rode out monsoons and hurricanes under it... So, I had to find a way to just show it because a picture is worth a thousand words (even though I'm sure I spoke 10,000+ words in that way-too-long video).
The defender tarps are really heavy, though. I have a 5x7 and a 10x10 defender and they are just plain heavy. It's a lot to decide to carry in your pack.
Good eye. You're the first one to mention it out of over 11 thousand viewers so far... I thought about talking about that later in the video but the video was already way too long... and the following explanation is going to be a couple of paragraphs: The way I had this pitched over that old clothes line caused the tarp to be bowed. I'm not sure how to explain it exactly, but imagine the clothes line being in the shape of a smile on a smiley-face. So, the edges of the tarp were higher than the middle. ... Water ran from the fenceposts on both sides down the clothes line and under the tarp. It wasn't a matter of water soaking through the tarp, but a matter of my pitch not having a tight enough ridge line. Hammock campers deal with this phenomena all the time and they do so by using a water break on their ridge lines (as simple as a piece of string tied to it to allow a spot for gravity to take the water off the line before it runs under the tarp). That inside center tie out acted like a water break and allowed a spot for the water running along my ridge line to have a place to drip off.
Long story - Please bear with me: Yup. Brian seemed pretty concerned about that. I (and everyone else who bought one) got an email from him the other day. I'll tell my viewers what I told him about my tarp: It's fine. It has been holding up exactly as expected. I refrain from pitching it any way that would make it necessary to put a lot of pressure on the non-reinforced tie outs... and I do that just as a matter of experience and what I think is common sense. 2GoSystems sells some shock cord with clips on the ends they intend for use on the trifecta. I bought a few to check them out and I've been using them as shock-absorbers when I need to use a non-reinforced tie out. I'm going to expand on this a little bit: In a couple of my videos, I have shown some shock cord lengths I tied gate clips on to the ends of. As a matter of standard practice, I carry those with whatever tarp I'm using for two reasons: 1) If the tarp has un-reinforced tie outs (such as the Etowah Outfitters/BCUSA tarp), I use them as shock-absorbers when using those tie outs. I also use them on main tie outs when winds get gusty to avoid catastrophes that can happen in high winds. The "weakness" of those non-reinforced tie outs isn't a big deal to me because I've been using a tarp for primary shelter in my woods for decades. I study my gear and identify its strengths and weaknesses... and then I test everything as much I can before relying on it in the back country or in bad weather conditions. Even though Brian is saying those non-reinforced tie outs are a serious flaw (not up to his standards), I sure can't say the same and I've deployed mine several dozen times now in a variety of weather conditions. I think the user should take some responsibility for understanding their gear and using it accordingly to what they know about it... He also offered me some store credit which I initially refused because my tarp is just fine. He was insistent, though. So, now I'm thinking I might spend the credit on some of his other products and do some more videos regarding his gear.
Excellent. You're getting a good deal. I'm going to again recommend those shock cord devices he sells. They have the perfect amount of give if stretched about 40%.
Good review. I've been camping out the last couple of months in Vermont and recently got his hooded sleeping bag which I love. I have the pad cover under me and the Trifecta bivvy over me like a blanket. It's going down to 13 tonight here, and I'm pretty sure that gear with long underwear will keep me toasty. He's a very thoughful guy. I think he's making the best gear out there. The down hood is detachable and makes the big difference. Reflective material in his sleeping bag too.
I haven't tried this product but have his other ones and to me his products are well worth the money and the customer service is juts of the hook! he has old school things like integrity etc that are just slimy absent in the market place today. I am a big fan of 2 go systems and this item as of right now is currently out of stock but ill keep my eyes open. nice review and thank you.
Brian is the best. He provides top notch service and really cares about the quality of his products.
Wow, I had checked this out a while back, based upon our conversation, but glad to see that you finally received the tarp!
It is a little pricey, but at the same time it is innovative, and high quality, and as you mentioned, comes with great customer service, so probably worth the price.
This would probably come min handy in sunny and tree less desert areas to reflect sun, and of course in rainy environments, especially when tropical with high solar radiation.
I wonder if the tarp need to be re-proofed, and whether the the tarp will stand up to ultra violet light for an extended period of time.
Anyway, thanks for another great product review.
This does seem to be a quality product. He experienced a few hiccups along the way, but that's to be expected when doing something completely new.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills I shared your video link with 20, or so, established RUclips channel video producers. Perhaps you will get more views and subscribers.
Thank you! I appreciate that.
Nice. Their Trifecta bivy bag is a great piece of gear too.
Brian is a smart guy making some innovative gear.
Thanks for the review.
The inside tieouts are good for hanging a bug net/tent.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad the information is useful for you. I've reviewed a bunch of these sort of tarps and it's easy to recommend this one even though it's a little bit on the expensive side.
Great review. Would like to see the Super Shelter setup and temp results with this tarp during winer months. Any chance you can do a Tarp Shootout comparing your best/latest tarps?
I might do a few more tarp videos this summer. I have 5 that haven't been on camera yet and two of those won't even be for sale anywhere until at least August.
Thanks for the video. I've been looking at this for a while. THE ALUMINUM COATING IS NOT A UNIQUE IDEA. There is a tent (laavu) from Finland that uses the same idea. I've been looking at it for at least a year, and it wasn't a new product then. That said, this tarp looks good, except for the mention in one of their ads or on their website, to be sure to shock cord the ground stakes, especially in windy conditions. The material is only rated for a 40 lb stress and could tear. I'm still ordering one to test, then several if I like the first one.
This tarp is highly reflective and doesn't have the stiffness or noise of Mylar.
That's my favorite too. It's quiet.
stealth camping!
I guess it could be nice to use part of the stuff sack as repair material if ever needed.You could always restitch the draw cord area.
That's good thinking right there. I hadn't really considered that.
Have you further waterproofed it? I just received mine and none of the tie-ins seams are waterproofed like yours. Do you recommend a brand of tape?
For small seam sealing jobs, I use Gear Aid Seam Grip amzn.to/3eCdUWP
When sun is strong do you use the silver coated side outside facing the sun?
Yes. And it does seem to make a difference.
I would love to buy three of these. BUT I cannot find it. It is not on 2go systems website and can't find anywhere else. Any help?
The last I heard, he is redesigning the outside tie outs and this product should be back soon. I can testify that he's good about returning email and answering questions, so for the best information possible, I suggest emailing him via the link on his website.
Great review thanks I love the tarp
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
This tarp isn't listed on the 2Go Systems website. Are they still making them?
I think they are getting a re-design and will be back soon. I got an email from Brian today explaining that the outside tie-outs (the non-reinforced ones) aren't holding up to the level of his standards. I could make some guesses as to the nature of the problem... and my money is on average-joe-user refusing to use his brain... but what I can say for sure is that mine is fine and I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with for a version 2.
Got it, Thx.
I'm on the hunt for a tarp that I can use in the desert. Something that acts as a black out tarp would be ideal. I was thinking something that looks like this. What's your thoughts.
With the reflective side facing out, this is as close as you'll get while still maintaining a manageable weight. If weight isn't an issue (example: ATV or Jeep carrying it instead of your backpack), the Aqua Quest defender camo tarps have a very, very thick polyurethane coating and provide good shade, but not a black-out. Another option to consider is simple and cheap: You could use any tarp you want and split a 4-6ml drum liner down the seam and use it as a second layer inside your tarp. I've used a drum liner like that to get enough darkness to sleep during the day out in the badlands more than a couple of times.
Essential Gear & Useful Skills Good information buddy thanks . weight is an issue on this occasion but I will do trip were it's less so. this tarp could be an option for me here. I contacted the company to see if they ship to the UK. if not I'm going to think about making or commissioning own. thanks for the response
Thank you for the thorough review! I especially appreciate how they proactively reached out to you and replaced the defective tarp! That's awesome!
High, it is a very interesting tarp. Kindly Fiete
Loved the video, but your wrong about it being a new Idea. This idea was done years and years and years before you made this by Outbound for their Quick Silver 3 and Qick Silver 6 Tent series. The fly's were all reversible reflective material! Just had to throw that out there at you... If you ever want to see the Quicksilver, I can take pictures of mine and show you first hand. But hats off! Any camping video's are a good thing in my opinion. Great job and looks like a solid product.
only thing i don't like is the logos are WAYYYYYY too obnoxiously big. If I get one, I'm covering that nonsense up.
You 2 bags use as cold weather. Bootttys. Ha ha hand. Wormers ? Cook a spud in one. With a hot pack
Cooking spuds with a hot pack is a great idea. I'm going to try it.
First of your videos I’ve seen. Great freaking job! I feel informed! I have Brian’s Trifecta and am now considering this tarp even though I have a Snugpak “All Weather” tarp.
Thank you for the words of encouragement! I'm glad you found this informative.
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Awesome review and presentation....no bs....in depth and honest. I subscribed. Thanks!
I'm glad you found this useful! Thanks for watching!
Looks like a great tarp!
I think it is. I'm looking forward to some winter testing with it, but my experience so far is completely positive.
is that condensation on the underneath part of the tarps roof ar is it the rain coming through? i have one of their bivies...awesome product.
No. It was a tie out that I didn't put a drip leg on that allowed some rain to run underneath. It's good evidence that the hammock guys are giving good advice about tying on a drip leg on every tie out.
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Is this durable enough to use as a ground tarp?
I just discovered your channel right when I need to! I'm in the market for a "budget" tarp shelter and I think this one is it. Mostly 5 day or so trips in the southeast. Thanks for the very detailed vids and reviews, great job! Also a question, what is the purpose for the double tie outs along the ridge line? What can they do that a single tie out couldn't. I honestly don't know.
I probably should have spent a couple of minutes on those double tie outs on the center seam. 1) Two is stronger than one. 2) They face opposite directions so even if you use only one of them it expands the usefulness depending on what you're tying out to and where it is in relation to your tarp. 3) You can use both in different directions to increase stability in the wind (more on that in a moment). 4) and 4 might be most important: Using a toggle (a stick or maybe a tent peg) to connect your rope to them is way easier and way stronger going through two loops instead of one. ... My imagination could probably come up with more reasons/uses and in fact while testing, I pitched one of these on a double ridge line (wrapped the rope around two trees so there were two ridge lines about 12 inches apart because that's how thick the two trees were) thinking it could provide a lot of stability in the wind... but I never found out for sure because the expected wind storm never materialized that day. Logic seems to dictate that was a good idea, but I never collected any data for evidence.
Thanks for another great review. I need another tarp like I need a hole in the head, but with the colder weather coming, and after this recommendation, one of these is definitely going in the cart. Only need to make up my mind on size/shape. You've cost me a bunch of money, but I've yet to regret buying something you've recommended. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching another one and thank you very much for the kind words! I appreciate that.
I ran across your videos and found them very informative. I did notice that you don't do videos very often now. Are you going to keep making videos or are you fading them out?
Long explanation:
I'll be back to doing videos eventually. There are a couple of factors keeping me from creating new ones right now. 1) My dad sold the farm so after spending my summer cleaning out the barns and the house, I'm left without such a nice private and convenient place to do vids. There's plenty of mountains, forest, prairie, lakes, and creek bottoms in Montana, so that excuse isn't going to keep stopping me much longer.
And then there's the big one: 2) I'm not pleased with how google/youtube is treating a lot of folks right now. The gun channels... some of the political commentators... and even little "outdoor gear" channels like mine (not sure what to call the bushcraft, outdoor gear, hiking, hunting etc channels - youtube doesn't really have a category for us). As an example, one of my videos currently demonetized is about how to build a long burning camp fire. I think that one was in restricted mode for a while too. They say it isn't suitable for advertizers or all audiences. No rough language, no nudity, no political talk, no nothing, just discussion about making fire for cooking and sleeping near... and as another example, my video on the Ontario Rat-1folding knife in D2 was demonetized with no explanation so I deleted and re-uploaded it... just to have it demonetized again without explanation. It only got 3 or 4 thousand views so the fifty cents or a buck I might have made isn't really the issue. The issue is that the decision to demonetize was completely arbitrary and nothing in that video breaks the rules. After I disputed it, they turned monetization back on... but long after the majority of views it would get had already happened.
So, as of this moment, I don't think I can trust google/youtube to live up to their end of the bargain. .. And it gets worse: I took a bunch of their creators classes online and participated in some of their events designed to teach me to generate better content. I invested quite a lot of money in to better cameras, audio equipment, and editing software. I did every single thing they wanted me to do... and the reward is that I can't trust them not to demonetize my whole channel any time they feel like it and/or bury my videos so deep that no one will ever be able to find them. ... I spent a year and a half trying to figure out how to make better content and gearing up to make better content because youtube wanted me to... I bought in to their claims that if I worked at it hard enough and continued to make better content that I might actually be able to make a job/career out of youtubing... And then they started demonetizing every single thing that get any random complaint from any random viewer who feels offended by something... and they started putting all sorts of absolutely benign videos (see PragerU's channel) in restricted mode while offering no reasons for doing so. I guess if all I was here for was to make some dollars, I'd do SJW Fluffy SnowFlake Cat videos.... then make an app I could sell to CNN and get my millions and get out.
Sorry for the long winded rant, but that's the state of things right now. I feel like I'd be safer on youtube teaching college kids how to make quiche in a toaster oven ... In fact, I should note that as a good idea because that's a video that might get a million views every fall.
To prove that it's waterproof, why not hold it to the same standard as the Noah's tarp? Put a bucket under and fill the tarp with water.
The point of that exercise was to demonstrate that Kelty doesn't even claim the Noah's tarp is waterproof. It can barely be called water resistant and Kelty makes exactly no claim that product is waterproof... but tons of "reviewers" say it is and lie about their experiences with it even claiming to have rode out monsoons and hurricanes under it... So, I had to find a way to just show it because a picture is worth a thousand words (even though I'm sure I spoke 10,000+ words in that way-too-long video).
I just got one and I like it. I wish it was a bit more rugged like an aqua quest defender.
The defender tarps are really heavy, though. I have a 5x7 and a 10x10 defender and they are just plain heavy. It's a lot to decide to carry in your pack.
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Good eye. You're the first one to mention it out of over 11 thousand viewers so far... I thought about talking about that later in the video but the video was already way too long... and the following explanation is going to be a couple of paragraphs:
The way I had this pitched over that old clothes line caused the tarp to be bowed. I'm not sure how to explain it exactly, but imagine the clothes line being in the shape of a smile on a smiley-face. So, the edges of the tarp were higher than the middle. ... Water ran from the fenceposts on both sides down the clothes line and under the tarp. It wasn't a matter of water soaking through the tarp, but a matter of my pitch not having a tight enough ridge line.
Hammock campers deal with this phenomena all the time and they do so by using a water break on their ridge lines (as simple as a piece of string tied to it to allow a spot for gravity to take the water off the line before it runs under the tarp). That inside center tie out acted like a water break and allowed a spot for the water running along my ridge line to have a place to drip off.
Great thorough review! I ordered one of these earlier today from Amazon. Although pricey I think it will be worth every cent.
I'm pleased with mine. I think it was worth the money. I've had it out a few times this winter and I very much appreciate the reflectivity.
How is it after 3 years? :)
im sold
This is now on sale for $50-60 size dependent, because the non-reinforced ties will tear.
Long story - Please bear with me:
Yup. Brian seemed pretty concerned about that. I (and everyone else who bought one) got an email from him the other day. I'll tell my viewers what I told him about my tarp: It's fine. It has been holding up exactly as expected. I refrain from pitching it any way that would make it necessary to put a lot of pressure on the non-reinforced tie outs... and I do that just as a matter of experience and what I think is common sense. 2GoSystems sells some shock cord with clips on the ends they intend for use on the trifecta. I bought a few to check them out and I've been using them as shock-absorbers when I need to use a non-reinforced tie out.
I'm going to expand on this a little bit: In a couple of my videos, I have shown some shock cord lengths I tied gate clips on to the ends of. As a matter of standard practice, I carry those with whatever tarp I'm using for two reasons: 1) If the tarp has un-reinforced tie outs (such as the Etowah Outfitters/BCUSA tarp), I use them as shock-absorbers when using those tie outs. I also use them on main tie outs when winds get gusty to avoid catastrophes that can happen in high winds.
The "weakness" of those non-reinforced tie outs isn't a big deal to me because I've been using a tarp for primary shelter in my woods for decades. I study my gear and identify its strengths and weaknesses... and then I test everything as much I can before relying on it in the back country or in bad weather conditions. Even though Brian is saying those non-reinforced tie outs are a serious flaw (not up to his standards), I sure can't say the same and I've deployed mine several dozen times now in a variety of weather conditions. I think the user should take some responsibility for understanding their gear and using it accordingly to what they know about it...
He also offered me some store credit which I initially refused because my tarp is just fine. He was insistent, though. So, now I'm thinking I might spend the credit on some of his other products and do some more videos regarding his gear.
I was not pointing that out as an issue, I saw it as a sale and purchased one and wanted to share the pricing update.
Excellent. You're getting a good deal. I'm going to again recommend those shock cord devices he sells. They have the perfect amount of give if stretched about 40%.