Nice Driving #29 | A Steadying Arm From A True Gent
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the man who ran over to help the elderly lady cross against the wind was heart warming to see.
Note how many just walked past in their own world. Sad of today 😊
OMG I read your comment quickly and thought it said ‘the man who ran over the elderly lady crossing against the wind’! 😂
@@laceandwhisky Sorry forgot it was an obligation by law.
@@QiuEnnan I initially thought the same thing!
@@jxpt8935 It's called compassion, try getting some !
Oh man, that clip with the kids running could have so easily been a tragedy. Props to the cammer for their good anticipation 👍
Absolutely; that wee girl who ran out into the road didn't even bother to look behind her before she stepped out. Only once she was almost at the other side of the road did she finally look towards the cam car. 😬🤦🏻♀
9:03 the FPS of the camera perfectly matched the revolutions per second of the car's wheels to make the car look like it was sliding across the road 😱
Nice spot!
@@ashley_neal Truly! How cool
The Range Rover in the clip at 1:45 is a classic example of how so many people travel too quick for the situation. The cam car travelled at a good speed and looked far ahead to manage anything that came. The RR travelled too quick and hardly looked over the bumper, hence the slightly embarrassing situation they created.
The unfortunate thing is that the driver will probably somehow hold the view that the van driver was doing something wrong.
Soon as I watched that my immediate reaction was "of course it's a range rover". Caring about any road user other than themselves is not in their programming. If it wasn't a big maintenance vehicle and just a regular car coming the other way, I suspect the RR wouldn't have backed up at all, and expected the other driver to
A similar situation was about to happen to me today. Red light up a ahead. Couple of cars at the light. few parked cars either side behind first two cars. So I waited in the gap behind the parked cars rather than block the space between the parked cars. Someone behind me didn't see I was just leaving the road clear. started inching forward and they got the message and held back behind me.
At around 6:35, low sun is something we are all having to deal with at this time of year. Several considerations:
1. Keep windscreen and all windows clear inside and out
2. Have a clean pair of sunglasses handy to put on at any time at short notice
3. Consider who the low sun is affecting. Is it you or oncoming drivers?
4. Drive on dipped headlights
5. Slow down if necessary
6. Use sun visor
7. I find wearing a cap also helps as a sun visor. I can also tilt it to one side if the sun is coming in at an angle. Very useful.
Good advice, particularly number 3). A bit of Ashley's consideration of what other road users are facing can take the risk out of the situation.
Re: (2) I'll just add that polarized sunglasses work really really well to combat sun glare.
@@chrisdevine4848 Good point. I have several sets of sunglasses but honestly can't remember if each of them is polarised. One thing I now remember is that some cars are really bad for having parts of the dashboard reflected in the windscreen. Another reason for those polarized sunglasses you mention.
I bought transition glasses specifically for this, as putting sunglasses on/off can be annoying
The road layout on that new-build estate at 1:45 is shocking. They had the opportunity to create safe roads with green areas but went for greed and crammed as many houses in as possible with no off street parking. When all the houses are built and everyone is parking on the kerbs, navigating that mess will be a nightmare!
Narrow roads are safe as they slow traffic.
@@Nigelfarij On the contrary.
They hinder larger emergency vehicles, especially if people are parked on them.
Streets crammed full of parked cars increases the risk of someone running out from behind that car and getting hit.
Streets full of parked cars increases the chance of someone clipping or crashing in to a parked car.
Narrow streets = delivery vehicles regularly block them, which increases impatience, which in turn causes people to do other stupid stuff.
@@Perseus7567 No point arguing with a lefty. They live in a different world to the rest of us.
@@Sonya_Makepeacewhat are you talking about? Why make this political? Weirdo
@@Sonya_Makepeace No point arguing with a Righty who thinks they're always right despite being able to clearly see all the off-road parking in the video. You might be surprised to learn that all new housing estates have to comply with Highways standards that have been produced by experts in street design and not by people who comment on RUclips videos. Fire Officers have to approve the designs to ensure compliance with their standards too. Spoken as someone with a couple of degrees in the field, years of experience and who has actually read The Manual For Streets. That road is also unfinished which makes the situation look worse than it is.
Your nice driving videos bring a smile to my heart. It's a pleasant change from all the hate and aggression in the world.
That very last clip with the pedestrian against the wind. That's also a good reminder that green only means Go if it's safe. You can't just go ahead and mow down pedestrians just because your light is green!
indeed, and that as people age, their balance becomes less sure. by taking control of the randomly swinging shopping bag, and giving the pedestrian a steady thing to balance on, he helped her take actual steps instead of being stuck precariously shuffling to keep from being blown off balance.
Where's the fun in that? 😂
The very first clip, I can imagine if there had been another driver behind our cammer that they might have tried to pressure our cammer into going past when it wasn't safe. Anyhow, well done.
Or our cycling friend from Fridays Just (Go Past Him) Cycling video 🫢
That put me at ease, it was so courteous, thoughtful and excellent protocol. I'm a distance cyclist, love the countryside, but many roads can be hazardous, not because of the infrastructure alone, but because of how road users can fail to realize that it will work fine if everyone is considerate of others.
Are you considerate to drivers? @@stephensaines7100
We've also seen in other videos cyclists encouraging a overtake or trying to wave a vehicle past a little bit prematurely. In one clip at the brow of a hill if I remember rightly, or the driver went for it at the brow of a hill after a couple of premature attempts from the cyclist to wave them past.
We've also seen in other videos cyclists encouraging a overtake or trying to wave a vehicle past a little bit prematurely. In one clip at the brow of a hill if I remember rightly, or the driver went for it at the brow of a hill after a couple of premature attempts from the cyclist to wave them past.
Common sense, considerate, patient road users make driving, cycling and walking so much better. It's not difficult.
yet some people seem to find it impossible
Nice to see examples of courteous driving. I was taught to stay alert to what’s happening three vehicles ahead and three behind. And in rural areas to look at how the line of trees or telegraph poles indicates the roadline ahead.
At around 8:41, the correct horn use, also taken as intended. That's because the cammer sounded their horn still some distance away from the cyclists and in a cheery short double "beep beep". Also couldn't help noticing what a beautiful day and scene that was. All the more reason to behave in a way that adds to everyone's enjoyment and not detract from their day.
Incidentally, also very good early positioning from the cammer in preparation for the overtake.
Thanks, that was me 🙂. Cotswolds - lovely place to live.
Love these Nice Driving videos. Showing people how it's done well is just as important as showing them it done badly.
Amazing how many of the other drivers offered thanks or acknowledgement, that simple gesture makes people more inclined to help in the future but some many just get ignored or taken for granted.
Someone giving you an okay to pass doesn't mean you have to pass by the way. So many times people are waving me down in places where I can't at all pass safely. And since I'm still captain aboard my own ship (or car/truck in this case) I decide when I pass. Not the to be passed.
Yep. You want to carry on steering the ship than going down with the ship.
The amount of times a tractor waved at me to pass literally a few car lengths before a sharp corner with obstructed view haha. I guess him sitting up higher he can see over obstacles and knows there's ample time for me to safely pass but I'm not taking that chance.
The clip at 02:10 is a classic example of drivers only looking as far ahead as the front of their own bonnet or only the car in front. Looking a little bit further ahead would have given them a clue what the camma was doing.
Yeah, the cammer's movement wasn't 'misread', it was just obliviousness.
@@theaikidoka Looked back a few times and I have seen people do this exact same thing which is out of character and normally happens when they see an emergency vehicle ( pull into a random spot that is not somewhere to park ) so I would presume something up ahead. Personally, in this case there is no assumption needed, the big yellow JCB isn't exactly inconspicuous and the disco is not paying attention.
Years of driving has taught me that most people don't slow down or stop for seemingly no reason (there's the rare one that does but that's a different story). There might be a hazard ahead or they're simply unfamiliar with the area and trying to find their turn. Either way, it should be a hint to at least pause for a couple of seconds to figure out what's happening before casually sliding past.
Sunday Greetings all. How is everyone? I'm feeling both excited and anxious about heading back to Vancouver on Tuesday for 8 weeks. 🇬🇧🇨🇦
Morning Ibs, have a safe trip back to Vancouver!
Even if you had not mentioned it this morning, I WAS going to wish you and your mum a safe and happy journey.🚂✈️🚘
@@AffyR Thank You kindly. I'll still be watching Ashley's channel and commenting, though it might be less than usual...which I'm sure some folks will welcome!
@@thomaselliot2257 Thank You so much Thomas. I'm not sure if there will be another Ashley video between now and then and whether I'll even have the chance to comment before flying. As mentioned I'm both excited and anxious. Especially about the weather. Fingers crossed. How are you doing?
@@ibs5080going by Ashley's pattern, there's always a video on Sunday, and usually no video on a Monday, then the learning point on Tuesday, and I'm sure you will be preoccupied then, so I thought about wishing you bon voyage this morning, knowing 🙂 you're pattern where you will have a few pertinent comments to say (you mentioned it last week that you were going , but then I'm aware you usually go this time of year anyway.)
These clips help me learn more than watching what not to do with the bad driver ones. It makes me remember we're not competing on the road for our space and progress but moving together for it.
At 9:23 - this is my true nightmare. I have been a pedestrian DIRECTLY behind a small child stepping out like that and getting hit by a car. Fortunately it was at around 20mph and I believe the child did not sustain serious injury, but it was genuinely horrendous. I can still see him in my mind five years on, ragdolling down the road, and now as a driver I am super cautious around child pedestrians. They are just more impulsive than adults (not necessarily less intelligent, but their planning and foresight just isn't the same level). Well done to the driver here.
Well done to the driver; not well done to the parents and the school for not teaching the proper crossing process (assumedly)!
@@phantasmaleye3879Where's Darth Vader when you need him? (if you've no idea what I'm talking about, google David Prowse Green Cross Code).
I think the driver could have beeped their horn as soon as the children looked like they might go into the road. The horn may have prevented the child running into the road instead of the driver having to make a more drastic and risky move to avoid them. it's particularly important if you're driving a quiet vehicle like an EV where they might not hear you coming.
@@phantasmaleye3879 Kids just don't have impulse control. Even my three year old knows to "stop, look both ways, listen, cross" - but will totally forget about it when excited. Other times - being only three - he'll stop me to insist I rigidly do each step in turn on the quietest residential road without a car in sight or earshot (I always thank him when he stops me because I'd rather build up cautious habits around cars than overconfident ones!)
At 8:40 - I often think the 2 short beeps of horn is received better than 1-blast of the horn.
Some good clips there of being nice, well done everyone
The last clip could easily have been on a viewers fail episode with those vehicles proceeding while the crossing was still in use and by someone that easily could’ve gone backwards
It would be interesting to have a learning point episode about being extra careful and observant should the need to stop in roadworks arise. No issues here and good work by most allowing the blue lights through 👍
That is good tip if driving on single rural lanes, always look ahead, surprising how much you can through gates and coming down a hill. Wish more did that.
5:54 is why I have a flashing be seen light on my bike in the day. Cars can often see you coming through gaps like that. Also it helps in the odd time a driver may be distracted glancing to talk to a passenger and miss me. Or sun glare. Also helps let peds know earlier I am coming.
Agree. This was my clip and I am also a cyclist with a flashing light for exactly that reason. In this case, the flash of headlights through the trees helped spot this early. I was in no rush and I had a passing place nearby, so it made sense to stop. It's a much better way to go than have that nose to nose thing in another 5 seconds which doesn't help anyone and just causes aggro.
@@philcaffrey Great driving and thanks for sharing the clips. Beautiful part of the world to live in or visit.
Great observation and decision by the cammer at 6:11. Of course always the chance a less observant driver behind will overtake, as per the earlier clip in the housing estate.
9:22 Time to bring back the Green Cross Code!
I used to work in a secondary school for 15 years. The students road-sense got worse and worse, as time went on.
I don't know what they were being taught at primary school, but some parents didn't seem to be teaching their kids, road safety, either.
A prank to watch-out for, is a group, walking together, and the inside one shoving their friend into the road, as you pass. I expect it, and give extra space.
@@johnbooth5199 'Chicken' is also a stupid game kids even 20 years ago used to play coming home from school. I have PTSD because me and my friends were leaving school and the way home involved crossing a main road between parked cars. I went to a shop and saw them all run across like idiots, ones little brother didn't make it and got his leg badly broken after being hit. It was one of the most terrifying things i'd ever seen. Even today it haunts me. When i drive home from work i'm extra careful because of this memory.
When out on any group cycle (or even on my own) when we can help the driver behind, we will, on the country lanes. Whether that is It letting them know when it is clear to pass or a quick warning that something is coming, it all helps and costs nothing. It is always nice to then get back a little acknowledgement in a wave or a flash of the hazards but not expected.
When I used to do group rides, on backroads, we'd always drop into single file when a car was coming up behind us.
The person on the back of the group was stuck with the job of listening out and calling "Car!"
Yep, single file. Call out “Car Up “or “Car Back” depending on if in front or behind. However this is helped out now somewhat by radar sensors which detect cars coming from behind and even tells how fast and how far they are away.
@@wiredwomble7958 I haven't seen the radar detectors, that sounds like a useful idea
I have seen set ups where you can use a phone as a screen for a rear view camera. Really useful for old farts like me with stiff necks and glasses.
4:50 Always really appreciate people doing this at roadworks, especially at night and/or when we haven't been to those roadworks yet it's very difficult to tell what exactly is happening at the roadworks and where is drivable or where there's space. It can honestly save minutes when someone waits like this driver did. Whether it means anything to you or not, you get a big 'ol thumbs up from me any time you do this whether it's me driving or another. I'd get you a cup of tea if I had the time!
The roadworks one shows a horrible issue with drivers today. Hardly anyone looking further than a car length or so in front. Something clearly occuring up the road, but people keep cruising along at the speed limit, then act surprised when they find a problem up the road.
1:00 I do believe use of the horn would let them know they've done something dangerous, it happened to me quite a bit when I first passed my test and it woke me up a bit.
6:00 you have to drive like that in the Lakes or you'd get nowhere. Even in the rain it's a lovely drive up Red Bank.
Exactly. Was thinking Red Bank when I watched this, but it's equally valid for so many locations. Little Langdale, Wrynose, Hardnott, etc...
It was a lovely drive, even in the rain. Having to stop occasionally gives you a chance to look around too - never a bad thing in the Lakes.
Absolutely love these
Practicing attentive and considerate driving habits so helps traffic flow for everyone, keeps road rage to a minimum and leads to stress free driving.
I think everyone should watch your videos regularly, wouldn't the roads of Britain be a beautiful place to drive.Thanks Ashley
Not just Britian, these considerate driving tips can work anywhere.
(From New Zealand)
On such a cold day, the last clip in particular gave me a lovely warm feeling 😊.
my truck has 2 horns. A very loud train horn and a soft beep. I think all vehicles should have that.
So you can use the soft beep to warn someone without scaring them, but when you need to actually get the attention you have the train horn.
5:20 Emergency vehicle & roadworks: I’d have put on my emergency flashers to alert cars behind me.
They'd still have gone round you. :(
Most people just assume the emergency flashers mean "ive broken down. go around"
What a refreshing change from all the other dashcam warrior channels. 🙂
Spotting lights in the countryside thru trees etc.
Looking across or cross view is important. Also don’t rely on running lights…often small and insignificant, switch to dipped headlights manually.
The chocolate box villages of lacock + Hook (near Swindon) are around here and both things are vitally important to do.
Very annoying when you see a vehicle approaching and pull in to wait only to be “overtaken”…the overtaker then gets stuck.
Unfortunately symptomatic of the era we drive in…..it didn’t used to be like this.
Nice clip to end on!
Enjoyed the video Ashley, loads of top tips as always and reminds us that it doesn’t take much to be better more considerate drivers 👍
Seems to be a recurring theme in this episode; the problems caused by people who don't observe beyond the end of their own bonnet, and how easily problems are avoided/prevented by those who do.
It certainly is nice to be nice', who wouldn't like that on the roads of this country
❄️❄️❄️REALLY looking forward to seeing any of the driving lessons in Liverpool in the snow today!
Driving, from Liverpool to Port Sunlight this morning was actually quite disciplined as most people were travelling at 20 mph.
An ambulance over took me at around 30 mph but soon slowed down again. ❄️❄️❄️
It’s refreshing to see videos of proper driving when we mostly see videos of how not to drive.
Thank you for the refreshing start to my day.😀
Thoughts on use of hazards in the forklift/crane type vehicle situation as well as the ambulance one? I have a feeling it could work both ways as may make other drivers more cautious and think about what's going on but also may encourage an overtake if they think you're pulling over / broken down :/ Be interested to hear your thoughts. Maybe another signal to communicate to cars to hold back for what's ahead? Thanks for the great content!
I see where you’re coming from and really that should be how hazards are used but unfortunately they’re just seen as “park anywhere lights” these days so people are of the habit of ignoring them.
@@J1mston
Yep. Even staying temporarily in the lane (until the oncoming vehicle is more obvious)and putting the hazards on would result in people attempting to pass.
And those people will never learn either. They're just impatient, often selfish, entitled people who think driving is a right and the road belongs to them.
At around 7:11 "cross viewing" on those narrow country lanes is essential. Also bear in mind that very often, the evidence of an oncoming vehicle via a cross view can be very brief. An opportunity to see it "now" may be gone a moment later. Also essential is to remember where the last "passing place" was.
Knowledge of how to reverse you vehicle also helps a lot, so many aren't very capable in that regard.
@@dereksmith6126 Oh yes, absolutely correct. I've witness that myself on a number of occassions. I've also had the oncoming driver reverse into a passing place on my side rather than opposite it for some reason. Maybe they felt they could judge the edge better if it was on their drivers side.
@@ibs5080 I have done that myself if it is of benefit. Easier for a car to get into a space instead of a lorry, bus or even a van.
@@dereksmith6126 Ah now, if the oncoming vehicle is larger than my regular sized Ford Focus, then yes sure I have done that too. In fact if the other vehicle is particularly large, it might be the only way we get past each other. But I've seen it done when it's just regular car on regular car.
@@ibs5080 Probably just a case of where they ended up and gave up! 😄
Nice subtle point about the third clip: the give way to the digger was entirely in order, but it didn't need so much extra space. Nature abhors a vacuum, and so does a pillock in a SUV.
I think all we sensible drivers want to do all this but sometimes we can't help getting triggered by the selfish a**holes taking advantage of us!
10:00 This is just what people did when I was growing up. I was always helping prams on the bus, aiding the elderly if they were in distress. It's only because we're living in the callous culture of me me me that these normal things now seem like rare virtues.
Exactly what I used to hear all the time when I was growing up in the 1970s.
@@neilyoungman9814 Times change
4:52 I'd have stopped at the green light and waited. No way would I have entered the coned area. That way you know you aren't going to be facing oncoming traffic that has come through on green from the other side.
7:47.. that was a good one, looking ahead and sees the bus’s indicators, and Instantly reacts knowing the car on the inside is going to want to come out.
Much easier. It's a BMW, so expect poor driving by default.
I really like the part where you talk about honking etc because it is obvious i comments on youtube that people believe that its their duty to "educate other drivers and police the streets. Like for example in the video with a cyclist shouting at a driver for parking at zigzags, while passing him at a zebra crossing and people commented that the car driver was at fault and that the cyclist "correctly stated what law the driver broke" as if that is some type of getaway freecard.
That is btw how road rage are started. Its not always the bad driver, but someone believing its his duty to educate others and while doing it causing more danger to other people.
6:00 That reminds me of a time when I was driving my bus on a small road and exactly in the only spot not covered by trees I saw another bus coming from the other direction. As I slowly drove around the next corner to look for a place to turn into, I saw that the other bus driver had noticed me and found a spot. So we managed to look exactly in the right spot at the same time.
That is also something you have to do when driving in Norwegian mountains. Sometimes you have too look down in the valley to see if there is a big vehicle coming up. It might be best to just stop at the top of the switchbacks.
9:20 I wonder what those kids are up to. Looks like someone throws something at the others, but they also do not look very innocent. Maybe they are playing.
Excellent examples of good road manners.
9:24 Surely, if they are allowed out on their own, they should know better. My dad had a situation like this when I was little. He pulled over and explained to the boys who ran out how dangerous what they did was. I have no idea if they listened, but at least they would have been made aware they had done something wrong, but he told me years later he wouldn't do it now.
Maybe a video showing how cyclists & pedestrians can make themselves more visible for dark winters? Scary how many wear all black clothing and are just shadows …
love these vids and think positive praise is always the best way as people trend to react bad to criticsm.
Should cars have the same chime as buses or trams have ?
I don't know how common it is for busses to be equipped with those, but where I have been in France and Belgium, they have both a horn they rarely use and a chime they often use for signifying in a friendlier manner for a car to move a bit forward or to ding when people are crossing or walking on the bus stops and there is no danger but it is still an inconvenience.
I think that would be a brilliant idea for NCAP to start recommending a two stage trigger for car horns so we can have a friendly chime for communication and a horn for hazards.
Sounding the horn can be too much and can easily frighten or put too much pressure on people you are trying to warn.
Chastising other road users with the horn or other aggressive signalling will cause stress and anxiety, which may lead to further mistakes and potentially more serious errors, it may also lead to a possible confrontation.
The girl running out in the road at 9.22 in the video . I wonder if the driver n car was a silent EV hence why she just went for it not hearing something. I have a loud motorcycle exhaust purely cos this used to happen to me 😊
Kids run out onto roads. It's just a brain development thing. That's why drivers should be (as Ashley says) be extra careful when kids are about.
Lace and whisky- Alice Cooper album. You must be a fan!
Electric vehicles are only silent below 10 to 15 mph. Over that you can hear them. But it doesn't mean people will notice and act. On my electirc motorbike I use my horn.
At around 0:55 a good illustration of holding back to let someone out when had you carried on to the back of the queue ahead, you'd now be preventing the other driver from emerging, at least without them blocking the road.
Some of my most valuable lessons have been learnt when someone blow the horn at me, or when as passenger the driver asks me why did they blow their horn at me, you were in the wrong lane and nearly crashed into them, driver normally says I will avoid that mistake next time.
7:58 this clip is a good example of people not teaching their kids proper bike safety
Just yesterday I almost got ran over by a small child on an electric bike absolutely flying along, with only a quick shout just before he was on top of me as warning. And this was on a small coastal path with a sheer cliff to one side that he could have easily gone over while still having plenty of people walking it, absurdly irresponsible by the parent of the child who was walking behind them(the child was going very quick ahead and then back to the parent, constantly endangering himself and others)
Quite why a parent would get a small kid an electric bike in the first place I have no bloody clue.
It would have been a good idea for driver at 5:24 to drop their lights to side lights to increase the vision for the ambulance driver when coming in head on.
That gesture waiving the car on was the kind of thing you suggested was not a good idea in another video. In this scenario the rear cyclist may have interpreted the gesture to mean that his friend wanted him to pass and that ambiguity could easily lead to an accident. A recent visit to the UK made me realise how much less safe driving in the UK has become as cycling has become (rightly) more common. I was on a country lane approaching a bend and suddenly a driver came around the bend on the wrong side. He had entered the bend only to discover a cyclist in the bend and had to rapidly switch to my side of the road. So driving at high speeds on country roads (where 60mph is allowed) could easily lead to accidents.
Your country's woeful cycling infrastructure is entirely the cause of the problem. As cycling become more the means of transport people choose for work or leisure, so the government needs to provide infrastructure so that motor vehicles and cyclists can use the roads safely.
When I'm cycling I often wave a following vehicle past. I know I've got enough room to let them overtake, and often drivers can be a bit hesitant, so need a bit of reassurance that I'm fine with them overtaking. I'd rmuch rather have them overtake than have a vehicle stuck behind me where I'm more at risk.
Why were you on the wrong side of the road?
🤣@@flatturdphd2066 The importance of good punctuation.
Another great nice driving video
Thankfully, i think there is still a higher percentage of nice out on the roads.
Yet again, another great video.👍
At 1:30, the driver's hesitation made it look like they knew they had made an error, but it was too late to correct it. It did not need use of a horn.
I've had a brand new van catch fire then the replacement caught fire a week later too. Fault was electric. Even now 15 years later i get nervous when i smell smoke.
3:08 🤯🤯🤯 whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
wow.. those kids ,that was not only frightening but could have made a massive change to the rest of your life,your families lives and their and their families lives,respect to the driver ,I Alway pull out a bit and slow down... but never have I, thankfully had a child run out like that
9:55 Used to work for them😂, it was fun. Know the person who's recording, he's using his scooter helmet on the electric cargo bicycle.
top video. thanks Ashley!
At 2.11 familiar scenario round my way, and familiar me-first make and model.
0:50 I do this frequently. And I'm an Audi driver.
Careful! If the Audi drivers collective find out they'll take your keys away
And relax😊
(215) The land rover clearly wasn't watching what was ahead of him Clearly didn't understand why the white car had pulled in..🏴
We need more nuance in communication than the horn allows. It's implied that the horn is angry and aggressive and road rage. But you're supposed to use it to alert other road users to your presence. So if they act as if they don't know you exist, then a polite toot can just alert them. When you stop and give them a polite toot they often put their hazards on and hold their hand up to say "sorry"/"thank you!"
It's needed for when you're driving, say, in a car park, and there's someone with a trolley going down the middle of the road so you can't pass, oblivious of your existence. Then you could use your polite "I'm here!" alert to let them know they are in the way.
A couple of comments. At night, I wish drivers would not flash their lights as a thank you when I hold back and let them go first. PLEASE just dim them or switch to side lights for a second. That way I am not blinded, especially by those ridiculously bright LED lights. Second, when stopped at a traffic light, Please apply the handbrake. Standing on the brake pedal just means that the glare from the brake lights is frustrating. Third, why do so many vehicles overtake and then slow down on the dual carriage or motorways even though their lane is clear? They will so that they position themselves about three or four metres in front of me, but remain in their lane. This is especially dangerous when I am closing up on a lorry and expect the overtaking driver to maintain their speed.
The 2nd clip i think i would have tooted the horn to say im here.
Yep, done early enough they may have even stopped before they caused a problem
@ChrisCaaa yeah I was in a 50 50 mind are they going to take the first exit left lane. Which was no issue , but still ready to beep if needed
@@wrightwoodwork it's a strange layout, it seems you can't go straight over to that 1st lane without cutting across people that are going into the services
@@wrightwoodwork Yeah I guess when the car first started moving you would think he was going to go left and stay in lane 1
Shame we can’t all drive like this all the time. Great video.
My issue with the first clip letting the van out is that it was completely unnecessary. There's two scenarios happening:
1) The cammer suddenly stopping had one or even a line of cars behind him, several of which would have been surprised by the sudden stop potentially going into the back of the car in front.
2) The cammer had no one behind him, so no one is surprised and possibly cause an accident but then why stop at all? The van would only need to wait a couple extra seconds to pull out anyway.
I think it's the latter because you can see the van doesn't pull out straight away, likely because he wasn't expecting to be allowed out when there was a clear space behind the cammer - so all that happened was the cammer slowed himself down. Nothing dangerous, just bizarre.
These videos restore my faith in humanity, just a little bit.
I've heard a few times "slow is smooth & smooth is fast"
8:46 ii liked this one.
2:41 I love how the cyclist slowly keeps going in the absolute lowest gear, as if shifting up to where his feet would actually make the bike go forward would be more dangerous lol
I sometimes wish cars came with a polite horn as well as the normal horn. Some cars seem to have 'get out of my way' as the default setting.
You only think of it that way because it is normally used incorrectly. When cycling, it is rarely used by someone behind, warning me they are there. With the car as far back as it was & there being a group of cyclists together, it was unlikely they heard the car until it started to accelerate to pass (which was slightly before they sounded the horn).
@@TheRip72 It does worry me that the group of cyclists were seemingly oblivious to the vehicle behind them and only woke up when the horn was sounded. They seemed to be in Tour de France mode and not cycling observantly.
@@davem9204 It may be worrying, but when you are in a group is is not always easy to hear cars behind you (lorries are another matter). Wind noise is a constant roar & the tyre noise of a bike right next to you is also significant & they were riding 2x2 (which makes the group shorter & therefore easier to pass, so it does have a benefit). Also consider that before it started to accelerate, the car was doing about 15-17mph. Cars are relatively quiet at these speeds compared with 30+mph. The car was about 20-30m back too.
You can even buy rear lights with a car detector that makes your bike computer go beep. The fact that these are available & people buy them demonstrates their usefulness.
Warning others of your presence is precisely what the horn is supposed to be used for. As a cyclist, I appreciate cars beeping me to let me know they are there just before they approach to pass.
the scene at the round about: using your horn would have been justified, but I do agree that in most cases people will just stop like deer in the roads in the headlights and you should always brake first. but it would've been fine to alert the entering driver of danger.
On the clip with the JCB 2:10 how would you suggest not miscommunicating with the Discovery?
Lesson in a lot of these is 'look well ahead'. Not sure I would have halted half way through road works though as the traffic likely oncoming will not care you are in the way. Not a criticism of him more you cannot trust others to be so accommodating. The kid only noticed when she just got to the other side so hopefully it will stick in her head. One alarm bell was the boy behind throwing something. Anything out of the ordinary can change those predicted behaviours which we use driving all the time.
At around 9:08 re the amount of times that someone overtakes you and then forgets you're there". Sort of related but I get this happen sometimes:
1. I'm in lane 3 of a 3 or more lane motorway
2. I'm overtaking a car that's in lane 2
3. I get past the other car but now they've disappeared. Where did they go? Until I've established that, I can't move back to lane 2
4. The car I overtook moved from lane 2 to lane 1 whilst I was overtaking it and hence now more in my blind spot
5. A quick over the left shoulder glance confirms the above and I now move back to lane 2.
The above situation is made more "embarrassing" if you have an impatient tailgater behind you. Especially as they are in a better position to see the other cars lane change but they don't realize you are not in such a good position to see what's happened.
Regarding the 'driving with lights' on clips - it certainly makes it easier to plan if other drivers have their lights on (and DRLs have made a huge difference, at least at the front), but especially in rural areas, there are still lots of people who have no concept of being seen in murky conditions. Those are the ones that make life difficult, either creeping about with no lights or a single sidelight - it's always just the one sidelight. At least it's rare these days for someone to gesticulate madly at you if you do have your lights on. Back in the 70s, people would act like you were making it easy for the Luftwaffe if you had your lights on, and some companies even put stickers on their vehicles to say they knew their lights were on.
The drivers of black-coloured and road-coloured cars are usually the worst ones at turning on their lights. By contrast white car owners on average put their lights on earlier.
With DRLs comes a certain amount of complacency I find, as the rear lights on most vehicles aren't on when DRLs are on In bad weather or poor visibility most people are driving around with just DRLs and no rear lights on.
Schumann's Carnival. Good music - for once!
Hell yeah e30 gang! Love it
The clip at 1.44 where the vehicle behind misinterpreted the cammer pulling in to let the digger past, would this be a good situation to use hazards?
If the cammer knew someone was behind them at 2:05 why did they move into the junction knowing they wouldn’t be able to fit behind? Despite the good intentions it seemed to be a complete miscommunication there.
Perhaps it would’ve been better to wait just beyond the junction and as far left as possible. The vehicle behind would be able to see what is coming as well. Even if the cammer wanted to wait in the junction, they could then reverse back afterwards
As with passing places in the countryside where reversing is often the quickest way to resolve a conflict, sometimes in urban areas going beyond where you want to be can also be quicker for everyone
0:06 Nice!
You say “road rage doesn’t help” but I do mostly beep at people that don’t do things right, some beep back at me in a “oh piss off!“ reaction but if they have friends in the car and it keeps getting beeped at due to poor driving I personally wouldn’t want to be in their car anymore. Can you honestly say that if you were in a friends car as a passenger and they got beeped at three times in one journey, would you really feel confident about their driving?? I wouldn’t!
I mean the first car at the roundabout which clearly saw you but still decided to go - that would definitely have got a beep beep from me.
You have to decide if you beep to rebuke or to make them notice what they have done. Not everyone will take it the right way and then egos get involved. You have to remember 80% of drivers think they are above average. They don't like to be marked down even if they deserve it. I would not have beeped him/her they knew what they did as they shot off in embarrassment. I am that 20% who thinks they are average so I wont get upset being beeped if I do something 'average'.
Regarding carVertical's offering. Maybe I'm missing something but shouldn't the insurance companies between them keep a national register of VINs of vehicles that they have written off, one that is then accessible to any member of the public to check - for free - before purchasing a secondhand vehicle?
Insurance companies doing something for free?!
I've had many riders wave me past and even getting quite angry with it when I don't pass. Just because you feel safe does not mean the driver does. They also go sheepish when trying to wave me past only for a vehicle to come the other way.
In short, use the riders wave to gauge their feeling on the situation, but not as an instruction to pass.
2:12. You can see by the road that the final tarmac surface isn’t done yet, so this is a brand new housing estate where they haven’t finished building all of the houses yet, so the people who have moved in now full well that there will still be construction traffic moving around until they do finish the site off.
So the overtaking car probably knew this and should have known better.