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This episode is one of the many reasons why I take exception to people calling Worf a bad father to Alexander. He put his pride aside for the kiddo and asked him to help him work through something most people have no idea about. The real issue most people have about Worf and Alexander is that the kid is not shown in every episode and we can go long periods without seeing him. So when he does show back up people immediately start going "where has the kid been all this time." Worf is a good dude, some folks need to just ease off.
Yea, guessing that since Picard has had to be deeply involved in Klingon culture during Worf's discommedation and then the Rite of Succession when Km'pec died. He took a deep dive into Klingon traditions and culture to better understand and respect Klingon culture.
The great thing about Denise Crosby's departure in season 1 and the death of Tasha Yar is that it added believable peril when a character is on death's door like this. I think most of us believed that Worf could die here, and it packed a heck of a dramatic wallop.
another good thing about her leaving. it made worf more of a main character, by making him head of security. who knows what his story line would have been had she stayed on.
If it could happen to Tasha, it could happen to any of them... hence Jen's response of being half a minute from bursting into tears. Our Jen has so much empathy and her attachment to the characters is very clear.
Oh man, that reminds me of my brother and I joking around back in the day (we were both kids when this ep first aired) about, what if Alexander had somehow gotten ketchup or something similar on his sleeve on his way back to their quarters and happened to bump into Riker. And how much Riker would freak out, thinking Worf actually had Alexander do the ceremony with him. *LOL*
I have Spinal Issue from Arthritis to Fractures Herniated Disk from Bottom to base of Skull...Joking with my orthopedic Doc a Few months ago I mentioned I wish he had a Replicator...He said so I could replace your with a Klingon Spine😂...it was a good Day to Laugh 😂
😂 I also have a herniated disk and other back issues. I hope it doesn't cause you too much pain. Mine comes and goes. I hope someday we have medical treatment options like in Star Trek so people won't always have to deal with spinal injuries in the future.
I had cancer, (cured now), my urologist said: "So I hired a General Contractor to work on my house, and one day this guy shows up and says 'I'm your Deck Master. So I shake his hand and say, "Well I'm your Dick Master! lol 🤣😂
They did a good job sneakily foreshadowing how he could survive with their talk of all the redundancies in Klingon biology and they held the scene just long enough to make people start to believe he really was gone. One of the top ethical conundrum episodes that is still relevant today.
This episode had the "Frigs" flying from Jen all over the place.. I felt your pain when they pronounced Worf dead. After 25 "no-no-no-no's", we finally got that moment of relief. Great reaction!
Riker was always my favorite character, and this episode made me like him even more. His “tough love” speech is is exactly how we would all respond to this situation, and his clever way of obeying Worf’s wishes but not obeying them always made me smile- despite how harsh it felt.
I remember being about 9 or 10 watching this episode with my brother and his wife. My Bro is a massive Star Wars/Star Trek fan and that rubbed on to me. But it was the look on my brother's face. His wife turned to him and said, has he actually been written out of the show? He said, I hadn't heard any rumours!! We all sat in shock until he woke up!!! It was just one of those moments of TV I'll never forget!
Worf asking Diana to care for his son if he dies is one of the most touching and heartfelt moments in TNG for me. They aren't related, they are a different species and he considers her the best person to be a mother to his son. The level of compliment and trust involved in that is moving.
it seems to me that the main humanoids in start trek might all be different subsets of the same species. humans and klingons can produce fertile offspring. as well humans and romulans. and i wouldnt be surprised if any other combination also works.
This is a great example of Star Trek reflecting the issues of the day. When this episode aired there was a lot of controversy in America about Dr Kervorkian and his helping patients with assisted suicide. Good to see Picard reflecting the sane, humanitarian view.
Much of the dialogue in this episode is both scary, heart warming, and more... There is no "wrong" or "right" , and many of us will have to make that decision. Love your reaction Jen thank you!
After Worf asks Deanna to look after Alexander if he dies, one hundred percent Troi went to Crusher and said, "You WILL make sure Worf survives! I will NOT be left with that bloody kid! Got it?"
What do we say to the plastic barrel of hazardous waste ? Not today ! :) _Right_ in Next Gen's wheelhouse this one - philosophical and ethical conundrums with nuanced positions on both sides. I _love_ seeing Picard understand Worf and even fight his corner _and_ Riker doing the same, in his own way. Interesting to see some of the same issues revisited just a few weeks ago here in the UK, when MPs voted on assisted dying laws.
He was the cutest little kid. I read online his wife had a heart attack a few weeks ago and he was asking for donations. Keep her in your prayers, or donate if you can afford to.
It can be argued that he is more famous for his Star Trek role than his Family Ties role. At least nowadays. Star Trek still gains new fans while Family Ties is mainly a footnote in 80s tv history, mainly because of Michael J. Fox.
If I recall correctly, this episode came around the time Dr. Jack Kevorkian was on trial in Michigan. If you don't know who that is, he's easy to look up, and yes, this episode touches on what he was on trial for.
13:38 "If Worf just died on this show right now, I don't know what I would do." One nuance that gets lost with modern watches of TNG is that it was Syndicated Television. This meant that they went around selling the right to air it to one TV Station in every broadcast market that wanted it, be they affiliated with a national network or independent. As a result there was no set time slot for it to air. It could be Saturday at 7PM in one city, and the next city over might air it on Fridays at 10pm (which was handy if you lived between two markets, as it gave you two chances to see it). I bring this up because I vividly remember when this first aired. My sister had flown in to visit from the West Coast, where TNG aired much earlier in the week. I was in the living room watching it and just as it started with the cargo bay scene, she happens to be walking past, looks at the screen and casually says "Oh, this is the one where Worf dies," and then walks off. I'm now sure there was some earlier sibling slight I had done to her that she was getting revenge for, but at the time, all I could think about was how anyone could spoil such an important plot point.
This was one of my favourite episodes as well. You're right, a lot of interesting points of view were examined in this episode! Things that make you think! There is an episode of Voyager that touches of very controversial medical procedures called "Nothing Human" (Season 5, episode 8). I don't want to give anything away, but I think you'd enjoy that episode too!
You must remember that Picard has been an ambassador, Cha'Dich for Worf, and arbiter of succession of the Klingons. He is VERY well regarded by the Klingons and knows their laws, rules, and mores perhaps better than any non-Klingon in the Galaxy.
Dax (from Curzon on) might just have him beat, or I think at least would give Picard a real run for his money. But that'd be the only other one I could think of.
Today, meaning in our time, we have the Office for Human Research Protections. Too many times in history has someone experimented on a person or even groups of people without their consent and without having a good scientific grounding for doing it. And too many people have died as a result... or worse! This episode was particularly interesting because (I believe) at the time of airing there was a doctor who was helping people with assisting their own termination. Jack Kevorkian first "assisted" someone in 1990 who had Alzheimer's. This episode aired in 1992, when it was a huge topic of discussion both personally (for folks to discuss in general) and politically (should it/not be legal, etc.?). Having said all of that, this episode was not only thought provoking but heart warming in a way that was even more relevant in its time!
"My heart is warm." What I love about classic trek; it didn’t beat you over the head with "the message" and gave us wonderful gifts like watching Worf remove some pride and make room for love after nearly dying. Subtle, wholesome and relatable.
Oh Star Trek often dropped anvils of message that were very direct and unambiguous. It could get PREACHY even then, no doubt about it. That episode where Picard directly tells those protovulcans he's not a god and goes into a speech about how belief in gods will send them to the dark ages was hardly subtle. But, some anvils need to be dropped.
9:13 Gotta say, even though Dr. Crusher is coming at this from a purely medical perspective (much like the doctor she just banned), it's a bit Speciesist to impose her morality on a patient like this. We got legal euthanasia in Canada a few years back, and it's one of the greatest advancements for Human Rights in my lifetime.
Jen Murray! I went down a rabbit hole looking for any information about words son's actor and how long he might have spent getting makeup applied. I guess I was hoping for behind the scenes video or something, but couldn't find anything. I did learn a lot about the actor, though! You can find out what you want on your own. Can you imagine, though, being a young actor, having to spend hours in makeup?! Poor kid. Good actor! Great reaction!!!
23 years of seizures, this is a tough episode....... It takes courage to face loss of physical abilities.... .... ......Glad to be watching it somewhat with others...
Bit more of a discussion point, but to me, if a patient has a lethal condition, I would let them decide if they wanna become a "guinea pig" for new yet fully tested treatments
Jen, your distraught reaction to Worf's injury was heart-touching. It hit you again with the idea of asking Alexander to ritually kill Worf. Your reaction when Worf died was marvelous.
A very tense and at the same time heartwarming episode. I can relate to it very well. Jen, another outstanding reaction of yours which really made me feel all your emotions and your worries about Worf.❤ Thank you! 🖖
I really enjoyed your reaction to this episode, Jen, your face when you thought that Worf was dead. I'm glad that it was a fake out when I first saw it too. I hope that you feel better very soon, particularly in time for Christmas and the New Year.
In an age without internet and Google, I’m sure a lot of people had the same fears for Worf’s demise without being able to confirm or deny it mid episode.
I understand Worf. I'm glad I live in a country where ending it with assistance is allowed. Under extreme strict rules and after strict physical and psychological checks of course. But it is an option for which the whole country is grateful.
There are some eps that get me hella emotional even now when I've seen them several times over. This one is right up there, when Bev comes out to see Alexander after calling it...damn.
They packed that one tight didn't they? Medical ethics, experimental procedures, Euthanasia, patient rights, disabilities, parenthood succession. This was a super heavy episode...heavy like a toxic chemical barrel.
"I'm suspicious of every single person." Right? For a supposedly ideal future it does seem like everyone they allow on the ship ends up being a problem.
Jen: I'm always suspicious of every single person. I love how Star Trek brings out the paranoia in all of us. X) Jen: There's no Trek without Worf! Truly, I cannot imagine this show without him.
Well done Jen excellent reaction watching this episode again I feel just the way I did when I first watched it. It’s amazing. How does that? Thanks for the fun until next time.
This is one of my favorite worf episodes. The medical advances in the future are always optimistic dreams and aspirations. We all hope that they will become a reality one day. I always sadly smile when I see nurse ogawa. Rip
I wish the guest surgeon in this episode would’ve been Doctor Pulaski from season 2. Her & Crusher meeting on screen & having this medical debate would’ve been amazing.
On his way to return the ceremonial knife to their quarters, Alexander got nabbed by Fed popo and after giving Klingon sass, got 5-15 years in a Federation penal colony . True story !
Beaten up by possessed crewmates in episode 15, then by a barrel here in 16 ..... not a proud day for a mighty Klingon warrior for sure! Shout out to Picard & Riker in this one - we all know Picard would've moved heaven & earth to save Worf if he could, but above that he had to put his diplomacy head on & respect Worfs wishes & Klingon customs in this scenario, no matter his own views - and Riker: being a true friend - bringing Worf what he requested, but finding enough of a loophole in the traditions to essentially talk his friend into fighting to carry on!
"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can't justify your existence, if you're not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself." ~ George Bernard Shaw Fabian socialists such as Shaw would approve of this episode and find agreement with Worf. But the value of a life cannot be measured by the circumstances under which it is conceived, the conditions under which it might exist, nor the level of contribution it may bring to society at large. Life has value because it is LIFE!
I understand Dr Crusher being upset about someone using experimental treatment and therapy. But, remind me, how many times did McCoy use Enterprise crew members as guinea pigs? The other doctor had a point of using what you have and doing what you think is best for the situation.
I believe the distinction here that Crusher was making is that using experimental methods to save someone in an emergency is not the same as having experiments you want to run and seeking out desperate patients to try them out on.
My mom has had spinal problems before. Thankfully they haven't been so serious as to be inoperable, but she has had back surgery a few times. I would be terrified of a life paralyzed from the waist-down. The people who continue on with those kinds of injuries are more courageous than I would ever be.
"Kahless held his father's lifeless body in his arms. He could not believe what his brother had done. Then his brother threw their father's sword into the sea, saying that if he could not possess it, neither would Kahless. That was the last time the brothers would speak. Kahless looked into the ocean and wept, for the sword was all he had left of his father and the sea filled with his tears and flooded beyond the shore." Klingons don't necessarily have anything against crying. Why you cry is what matters. Love is an acceptable reason to cry.
"No. This isn't going to work for me." And with that, Death found itself back at the negotiating table. I always appreciated Picard's respect for Worf's beliefs -- I wish other characters, and the show, had taken them more seriously. I feel there were some lost opportunities here.
This episode got meme'd a lot because of the barrel bouncing when it hit Michael Dorn, additionally the "I need you to k*** me" also got some traction in the meme circles
Ironically, if Worf died during the experimental medical procedure, it probably would have been seen as an honorable death, at least among Klingon doctors. As the 22nd century geneticist, Dr Antaak, once said "It is more honorable to give one's life for scientific research than to die for no reason."
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Hey, it's Next Jen! With jenitronic procedures!
This episode is one of the many reasons why I take exception to people calling Worf a bad father to Alexander. He put his pride aside for the kiddo and asked him to help him work through something most people have no idea about. The real issue most people have about Worf and Alexander is that the kid is not shown in every episode and we can go long periods without seeing him. So when he does show back up people immediately start going "where has the kid been all this time." Worf is a good dude, some folks need to just ease off.
Picard's knowledge of Kilingon culture of makes him the perfect person to explain Worfs point of view the everyone.
Yea, guessing that since Picard has had to be deeply involved in Klingon culture during Worf's discommedation and then the Rite of Succession when Km'pec died. He took a deep dive into Klingon traditions and culture to better understand and respect Klingon culture.
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He has an educational background in the study of cultures I believe also.
@@dunbarf2413q'apla sir, your knowledge is acknowledged 🖖
The great thing about Denise Crosby's departure in season 1 and the death of Tasha Yar is that it added believable peril when a character is on death's door like this. I think most of us believed that Worf could die here, and it packed a heck of a dramatic wallop.
Even though I've seen every episode a hundred times, I still cry anyways.
another good thing about her leaving. it made worf more of a main character, by making him head of security. who knows what his story line would have been had she stayed on.
If it could happen to Tasha, it could happen to any of them... hence Jen's response of being half a minute from bursting into tears. Our Jen has so much empathy and her attachment to the characters is very clear.
Being an Enterprise crew member and seeing a little Klingon stalking down the hallway carrying a big blade, I'd be like, "WTF? Who's he off to kill?"
Oh man, that reminds me of my brother and I joking around back in the day (we were both kids when this ep first aired) about, what if Alexander had somehow gotten ketchup or something similar on his sleeve on his way back to their quarters and happened to bump into Riker. And how much Riker would freak out, thinking Worf actually had Alexander do the ceremony with him. *LOL*
I have Spinal Issue from Arthritis to Fractures Herniated Disk from Bottom to base of Skull...Joking with my orthopedic Doc a Few months ago I mentioned I wish he had a Replicator...He said so I could replace your with a Klingon Spine😂...it was a good Day to Laugh 😂
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I also have a herniated disk and other back issues. I hope it doesn't cause you too much pain. Mine comes and goes. I hope someday we have medical treatment options like in Star Trek so people won't always have to deal with spinal injuries in the future.
That is absolutely wholesome:)
That's awesome 😂
Outstanding!
I had cancer, (cured now), my urologist said: "So I hired a General Contractor to work on my house, and one day this guy shows up and says 'I'm your Deck Master. So I shake his hand and say, "Well I'm your Dick Master! lol 🤣😂
At 13:55, Bev tries to revive Worf with cordrazine, the same stuff that messed up Bones when he od'd on it in City on the Edge of Forever.
“It’s my little nephew Bucky. HE O DEEE’d!”
They did a good job sneakily foreshadowing how he could survive with their talk of all the redundancies in Klingon biology and they held the scene just long enough to make people start to believe he really was gone. One of the top ethical conundrum episodes that is still relevant today.
This episode had the "Frigs" flying from Jen all over the place.. I felt your pain when they pronounced Worf dead. After 25 "no-no-no-no's", we finally got that moment of relief. Great reaction!
Somebody needs to hook her up with a Crusher lab coat.
Riker was always my favorite character, and this episode made me like him even more. His “tough love” speech is is exactly how we would all respond to this situation, and his clever way of obeying Worf’s wishes but not obeying them always made me smile- despite how harsh it felt.
14:25 this is the correct amount of denial that is appropriate for this moment
Love this episode and enjoyed your reaction to it.
Yeah, this one hits hard. Like an empty barrel.
Boom!
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Too soon
Hilarious 😂
THIS BARREL HAS NO HONOR!
I remember being about 9 or 10 watching this episode with my brother and his wife. My Bro is a massive Star Wars/Star Trek fan and that rubbed on to me. But it was the look on my brother's face. His wife turned to him and said, has he actually been written out of the show? He said, I hadn't heard any rumours!! We all sat in shock until he woke up!!! It was just one of those moments of TV I'll never forget!
Worf asking Diana to care for his son if he dies is one of the most touching and heartfelt moments in TNG for me. They aren't related, they are a different species and he considers her the best person to be a mother to his son. The level of compliment and trust involved in that is moving.
it seems to me that the main humanoids in start trek might all be different subsets of the same species.
humans and klingons can produce fertile offspring.
as well humans and romulans.
and i wouldnt be surprised if any other combination also works.
.... And Alexander gets Lawaxanna as a Grandmother! ..... See : Auntie Mame!
@@jamesalexander5623That kid is going to be spoiled rotten
This is a great example of Star Trek reflecting the issues of the day.
When this episode aired there was a lot of controversy in America about Dr Kervorkian and his helping patients with assisted suicide. Good to see Picard reflecting the sane, humanitarian view.
Much of the dialogue in this episode is both scary, heart warming, and more... There is no "wrong" or "right" , and many of us will have to make that decision. Love your reaction Jen thank you!
After Worf asks Deanna to look after Alexander if he dies, one hundred percent Troi went to Crusher and said, "You WILL make sure Worf survives! I will NOT be left with that bloody kid! Got it?"
Great episode. Klingons' culture & ways explored even more. Sad that Patti Yasutake has passed away. We're losing so many........😪
Yeah we all thought Worf had died - you could have heard a pin drop in the room at the time. Impressive fake out.
What do we say to the plastic barrel of hazardous waste ? Not today ! :)
_Right_ in Next Gen's wheelhouse this one - philosophical and ethical conundrums with nuanced positions on both sides. I _love_ seeing Picard understand Worf and even fight his corner _and_ Riker doing the same, in his own way. Interesting to see some of the same issues revisited just a few weeks ago here in the UK, when MPs voted on assisted dying laws.
Riker's reasoning was brilliant.
He played Worf like a Klingon Opera.
@@3Rayfire I'm trying to imagine what a Klingon opera sounds like. Lots of grunting I'm guessing.
@CraigKosteleckyThere is actually recorded bits in some trek episodes. ruclips.net/video/rYY17RarRVc/видео.html
The child who played Alexander is Brian Bonsel. He was most famous for playing the Keatons youngest in Family Ties
He was the cutest little kid. I read online his wife had a heart attack a few weeks ago and he was asking for donations. Keep her in your prayers, or donate if you can afford to.
*Brian Bonsall not Bonsel
It can be argued that he is more famous for his Star Trek role than his Family Ties role. At least nowadays. Star Trek still gains new fans while Family Ties is mainly a footnote in 80s tv history, mainly because of Michael J. Fox.
@@Billinois78 while true. He was first known from Family Ties
@@karter95 I agree about first.
If I recall correctly, this episode came around the time Dr. Jack Kevorkian was on trial in Michigan.
If you don't know who that is, he's easy to look up, and yes, this episode touches on what he was on trial for.
This might be the record for the most “nononononononononono”’s from Jen, I think
#FrigYouTrek
13:38 "If Worf just died on this show right now, I don't know what I would do." One nuance that gets lost with modern watches of TNG is that it was Syndicated Television. This meant that they went around selling the right to air it to one TV Station in every broadcast market that wanted it, be they affiliated with a national network or independent. As a result there was no set time slot for it to air. It could be Saturday at 7PM in one city, and the next city over might air it on Fridays at 10pm (which was handy if you lived between two markets, as it gave you two chances to see it).
I bring this up because I vividly remember when this first aired. My sister had flown in to visit from the West Coast, where TNG aired much earlier in the week. I was in the living room watching it and just as it started with the cargo bay scene, she happens to be walking past, looks at the screen and casually says "Oh, this is the one where Worf dies," and then walks off. I'm now sure there was some earlier sibling slight I had done to her that she was getting revenge for, but at the time, all I could think about was how anyone could spoil such an important plot point.
Huh "Gradvidic Mine". That is mentioned in movie ST2Wrath of Khan, the Kobyashi Maru struck a gravidic mine.
This was one of my favourite episodes as well. You're right, a lot of interesting points of view were examined in this episode! Things that make you think!
There is an episode of Voyager that touches of very controversial medical procedures called "Nothing Human" (Season 5, episode 8). I don't want to give anything away, but I think you'd enjoy that episode too!
You must remember that Picard has been an ambassador, Cha'Dich for Worf, and arbiter of succession of the Klingons.
He is VERY well regarded by the Klingons and knows their laws, rules, and mores perhaps better than any non-Klingon in the Galaxy.
Dax (from Curzon on) might just have him beat, or I think at least would give Picard a real run for his money. But that'd be the only other one I could think of.
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Today, meaning in our time, we have the Office for Human Research Protections. Too many times in history has someone experimented on a person or even groups of people without their consent and without having a good scientific grounding for doing it. And too many people have died as a result... or worse! This episode was particularly interesting because (I believe) at the time of airing there was a doctor who was helping people with assisting their own termination. Jack Kevorkian first "assisted" someone in 1990 who had Alzheimer's. This episode aired in 1992, when it was a huge topic of discussion both personally (for folks to discuss in general) and politically (should it/not be legal, etc.?). Having said all of that, this episode was not only thought provoking but heart warming in a way that was even more relevant in its time!
"My heart is warm."
What I love about classic trek; it didn’t beat you over the head with "the message" and gave us wonderful gifts like watching Worf remove some pride and make room for love after nearly dying. Subtle, wholesome and relatable.
Oh Star Trek often dropped anvils of message that were very direct and unambiguous. It could get PREACHY even then, no doubt about it. That episode where Picard directly tells those protovulcans he's not a god and goes into a speech about how belief in gods will send them to the dark ages was hardly subtle. But, some anvils need to be dropped.
Ain't no plastic barrel taking out Worf. Not today.
Every once in a while, Worf gets a great episode. He's deeper and more complex than any other Klingon on the show.
9:13 Gotta say, even though Dr. Crusher is coming at this from a purely medical perspective (much like the doctor she just banned), it's a bit Speciesist to impose her morality on a patient like this. We got legal euthanasia in Canada a few years back, and it's one of the greatest advancements for Human Rights in my lifetime.
Jen Murray! I went down a rabbit hole looking for any information about words son's actor and how long he might have spent getting makeup applied. I guess I was hoping for behind the scenes video or something, but couldn't find anything. I did learn a lot about the actor, though! You can find out what you want on your own. Can you imagine, though, being a young actor, having to spend hours in makeup?! Poor kid. Good actor! Great reaction!!!
There is no trek without Worf...
Best quote ever. 100% agree
23 years of seizures, this is a tough episode....... It takes courage to face loss of physical abilities.... ....
......Glad to be watching it somewhat with others...
Thinking about this episode years after. If Alexander wasn't in the picture, I think they would have honored Worf's wishes to die.
Bit more of a discussion point, but to me, if a patient has a lethal condition, I would let them decide if they wanna become a "guinea pig" for new yet fully tested treatments
Theres no way I can watch this and not cry when little alex crys thinking he lost his dad. 😢 That moment will always get me.
Jen, your distraught reaction to Worf's injury was heart-touching. It hit you again with the idea of asking Alexander to ritually kill Worf. Your reaction when Worf died was marvelous.
A very tense and at the same time heartwarming episode. I can relate to it very well. Jen, another outstanding reaction of yours which really made me feel all your emotions and your worries about Worf.❤ Thank you! 🖖
I really enjoyed your reaction to this episode, Jen, your face when you thought that Worf was dead. I'm glad that it was a fake out when I first saw it too. I hope that you feel better very soon, particularly in time for Christmas and the New Year.
In an age without internet and Google, I’m sure a lot of people had the same fears for Worf’s demise without being able to confirm or deny it mid episode.
It’s always interesting to see Worf struggling to resolve his Klingon heritage and his human upbringing.
I understand Worf. I'm glad I live in a country where ending it with assistance is allowed. Under extreme strict rules and after strict physical and psychological checks of course.
But it is an option for which the whole country is grateful.
There are some eps that get me hella emotional even now when I've seen them several times over. This one is right up there, when Bev comes out to see Alexander after calling it...damn.
They packed that one tight didn't they? Medical ethics, experimental procedures, Euthanasia, patient rights, disabilities, parenthood succession. This was a super heavy episode...heavy like a toxic chemical barrel.
Wouldn't it have been Ironic if the Barrel had been full of Prune Juice!
@@jamesalexander5623 Prune juice can’t hurt Worf, he is the patron warrior-saint of prune juice!
@@kingleech16 Yes Indeed!
WOW! EVERYONE had to take a second look at their ethics! 😳 ...except that guest doctor, she did not give a F***! LOVED your reaction! 👍☺
"I'm suspicious of every single person." Right? For a supposedly ideal future it does seem like everyone they allow on the ship ends up being a problem.
Seems the good doctor forgot some of her own experimental procedures, Picard Borg for one.
Jen: I'm always suspicious of every single person.
I love how Star Trek brings out the paranoia in all of us. X)
Jen: There's no Trek without Worf!
Truly, I cannot imagine this show without him.
Well done Jen excellent reaction watching this episode again I feel just the way I did when I first watched it. It’s amazing. How does that? Thanks for the fun until next time.
The ship is trying to kill Worf.
Guest human character: either wicked or bangs Riker, sometimes both.
They do such a Brilliant job of making you believe that Worf is really dead....So GOOOOOOD
I totally thought that Warf was dead when Bev went to tell his son... damn the writers for this one!!! lol
This is one of my favorite worf episodes. The medical advances in the future are always optimistic dreams and aspirations. We all hope that they will become a reality one day. I always sadly smile when I see nurse ogawa. Rip
I wish the guest surgeon in this episode would’ve been Doctor Pulaski from season 2. Her & Crusher meeting on screen & having this medical debate would’ve been amazing.
Yeah they took that death scene right up to the gates of Sto'vo'korh.
I love this episode. So much character development. Love watching your reactions Jen!
Good episode worf dealing with his mortality
Seen this before when parents were alive, back then my eyes did not leak when viewing.
My Dad passed last year at 78, but I still have my Mom. I'm sorry for your loss.
@@xzonia1 TY
Like that they brought Alexander into this episode. The never seem to use him and his father's relationship as much as they could have. :)
Always is an emotional episode. A great worf and crew episode. LLAP from Alberta ❤🖖
Every Sunday i get to start with a new Jen reaction is a great time. :)
Gates' scene with Alexander is one of the best scenes she has ever shot.
The barrel: "Prepare for ramming speed!"
Greetings Admiral Murray. Two more episodes on Star Trek Sunday. Always love ❤your reactions. Enjoy the rest of your day. Live long and prosper 🖖 😊.
On his way to return the ceremonial knife to their quarters, Alexander got nabbed by Fed popo and after giving Klingon sass, got 5-15 years in a Federation penal colony .
True story !
Hey Jen, in the chat you said you got a "crap ton" of snow. Here in Bonerland, we don't use your fancy metric system, but I get the general idea! 😂
Beaten up by possessed crewmates in episode 15, then by a barrel here in 16 ..... not a proud day for a mighty Klingon warrior for sure!
Shout out to Picard & Riker in this one - we all know Picard would've moved heaven & earth to save Worf if he could, but above that he had to put his diplomacy head on & respect Worfs wishes & Klingon customs in this scenario, no matter his own views - and Riker: being a true friend - bringing Worf what he requested, but finding enough of a loophole in the traditions to essentially talk his friend into fighting to carry on!
I liked the callbacks to Tasha and Marla Astor.
Yes Jen, it's good to be suspicious of guest characters sometimes. 🤨🇨🇦
They did mention at the beginning that klingons have backups for vital organs lol
Great episode. Great react. LLAP, Jen. ♥
"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can't justify your existence, if you're not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself." ~ George Bernard Shaw
Fabian socialists such as Shaw would approve of this episode and find agreement with Worf. But the value of a life cannot be measured by the circumstances under which it is conceived, the conditions under which it might exist, nor the level of contribution it may bring to society at large. Life has value because it is LIFE!
I would've totally dodged that slow-ass container, negating all that noise. 😎
It was good to see Worf was going to cling on for long enough to be Klingon again. :)
yup! great fake out indeed! back then we didn't know who lived or who died even more then now since things can be kinda spoiled today! great episode!
This is one of the many reasons why TNG is one of the best shows ever made.
Maybe Worf was meant to have a "Darth Maul" story arc, and losing his legs was going to be the first step.
(11:24)
"kid walks out, stumbles and stubs himself"
next scene : dr. crusher "worf! good news! we found a doner for your broken back ..."
Hi Jen hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
The 24th Century, where apparently OSHA is an outdated relic of the past.
I understand Dr Crusher being upset about someone using experimental treatment and therapy. But, remind me, how many times did McCoy use Enterprise crew members as guinea pigs?
The other doctor had a point of using what you have and doing what you think is best for the situation.
I believe the distinction here that Crusher was making is that using experimental methods to save someone in an emergency is not the same as having experiments you want to run and seeking out desperate patients to try them out on.
My mom has had spinal problems before. Thankfully they haven't been so serious as to be inoperable, but she has had back surgery a few times.
I would be terrified of a life paralyzed from the waist-down.
The people who continue on with those kinds of injuries are more courageous than I would ever be.
Commander Jen, do not dishonor me with tears.
Now, continue reacting.
~ Lt. Worf
"Kahless held his father's lifeless body in his arms. He could not believe what his brother had done. Then his brother threw their father's sword into the sea, saying that if he could not possess it, neither would Kahless. That was the last time the brothers would speak. Kahless looked into the ocean and wept, for the sword was all he had left of his father and the sea filled with his tears and flooded beyond the shore."
Klingons don't necessarily have anything against crying. Why you cry is what matters. Love is an acceptable reason to cry.
That was-FUNNY. LOL.
@kerry-j4m Ensign Kerry, I fail to see the humor. Don't you have a station to report to.
~ Lt. Worf
@@trexinvert Yes I do sir,Q'pla.
@@kerry-j4m Ensign Kerry,
Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam
~Lt. Worf
That med researcher is Tom Cruises mom in Born on the 4th of July.
Let it be known that 5x16 is the episode when Riker (and Picard) saved Worf's life! TNJ!!!!! 🖖
"No. This isn't going to work for me." And with that, Death found itself back at the negotiating table.
I always appreciated Picard's respect for Worf's beliefs -- I wish other characters, and the show, had taken them more seriously. I feel there were some lost opportunities here.
The Klingon body parts have back up redundancies BUT they are so easy to kill. How many die in blade or batleth strikes.
Only eight more to go until The Inner Light!
That hydrocordrozene is tricky stuff.
Very good, excellent film, simply perfect 👏👏👏
This episode got meme'd a lot because of the barrel bouncing when it hit Michael Dorn, additionally the "I need you to k*** me" also got some traction in the meme circles
3:33 this bit has also generated some memes...
Fun fact: sons need to see their fathers struggle or fail. Otherwise they have no example of how to pick up the pieces.
I think we almost lost Jen there when the no no no no no came
Jen is getting promoted rather quickly.
Such a difficult issue, especially since it involves the deep beliefs of a different culture/species.
If you aren’t spending your Sundays watching Star Trek with Jen then you are definitely missing out 🖖.
Ironically, if Worf died during the experimental medical procedure, it probably would have been seen as an honorable death, at least among Klingon doctors.
As the 22nd century geneticist, Dr Antaak, once said "It is more honorable to give one's life for scientific research than to die for no reason."