I'd say 65% of people who have played deepwoken (Excluding new players) have this problem. It's very easy to abuse, most common way to abuse this is with any mantra that has a large radius or auto tracks (Like radiant kick or ice daggers)
The problem is, people who dont have really good ping can struggle to do this. Even the SLIGHTEST delay like having 100 ping can cause you to miss alot of these after feint rolls.
"why i suck at deepwoken?" the hoplite shield 20 ping build who can punish you for hitting his block because he can click you fast enough to interrupt ur next m1 and only thing you can do is cry about it:
This is extremely hard to not do when you're dealing with roblox server sided lag and not knowing which attack is gonna come out first or have their delay at whatever time it might be
if you wanna stick with these for uh chime sweats you could make counters (playstyles, builds, techs, etc) for meta chime builds. One rn being light ice or m1 based flame regen builds.
Dude air rolling is so much fun to abuse you can catch people with an attack after they air roll with literally anything you can parry then ever so casually walk behind your opponent and hit them with an m1 after they roll
@@nogo yeah but its a bad habit a lot of players have for example dodging or parrying and IMMEDIATLEY m1ing, really leaves you open to moves with more range I am just trying to say that your defense isnt the only thing you should be timing
Me having average 200 ping because SA has no servers in question: BTW, that is impossible to do when there are moves like burning servants that starts the posture damage almost instantly so you cant even react to it, fight Fallen with his flamecharm build and understand what i mean
ok but, what about 200ms + players, we cant just be attentive to the actions of the enemy, we need to sometimes roll before they use anything , if we try to just roll when we see the attack coming, we get hitted , cuz ping is bad
Im doing a pussy-ass Rifle Ironsing build with Visionshaper and i always m1 and run, when i get low i use 44 second Realm to proc Warrior Respite and regen 2 - 3 bars 👍
Can u tell the devs to revert the pathfinder anims it looks so ass because they did it wrong because on peroxide the cloaks looks fire asf using that roblox feature
I abandoned all common sense
I abandoned all common sense
I abandoned all common sense(I don't even have this game)
@@Fr0sty_Th3_Sn0wManget it fr
Monkey mode is best play style
I abandoned the game
You should make a series about what you need to focus on in each elo range and how to improve from their
i might re-upload thé spit vidéo because it’s another vital mechanic
thé vidéo ?@@nogo
well that might be a good idea if elos mattered
a good tip would be to know when to hold block, for ex. after failing a parry at low posture, and when to try and roll
Kinda sucks how I won't ever be good at deepwoken, I just enjoy showering too much ☹️
I'd say 65% of people who have played deepwoken (Excluding new players) have this problem. It's very easy to abuse, most common way to abuse this is with any mantra that has a large radius or auto tracks (Like radiant kick or ice daggers)
i still have this problem sometimes 😵💫
The AI have truly changed the world, its almost like hes still here, making videos for us... Fly high, Nogo🕊🕊🕊
The problem is, people who dont have really good ping can struggle to do this. Even the SLIGHTEST delay like having 100 ping can cause you to miss alot of these after feint rolls.
full rolling is key
And i have to play with 200 ping because i am a brazilian and brazil dont has a roblox server
dayum… your right… this changes my whole perspective… now I must learn how to overwhelm my opponent when my go to moves dont work on them
This is why most people go tap dancer now
why i suck at deepwoken?
27 fps doing nothing
19 fps doing nothing during winter
14 fps during combat
6 fps during combat and winter
270 ping
"why i suck at deepwoken?"
the hoplite shield 20 ping build who can punish you for hitting his block because he can click you fast enough to interrupt ur next m1 and only thing you can do is cry about it:
thank you nogo for showing us Why WE SUCK At Deepwoken
very original im rofl rn
As someone who does this 24/7 without realizing it i really appreciate you. Thank god for the youtube algorithm
This is extremely hard to not do when you're dealing with roblox server sided lag and not knowing which attack is gonna come out first or have their delay at whatever time it might be
i used to punish people all the time for this never even noticed i did it myself
Wow, thankyou what a useful guide!
Glad it was helpful!
Instead of doing a full roll after they feint, do a roll cancel to the side of them, it can disorient them and make them miss a catch up mantra
2:13 bro said ''stop rolling air'' but bro parry the air 💀
thank you nogo sama, i've gotten stronger after your advice... arigato...
Shut your goofy ass up bruh 💀
M1 or mantra when the silent heart feints
Coming from Lancelot is insane
yea i faced a friend of mine who would see me air roll and just use rising wind
if you wanna stick with these for uh chime sweats you could make counters (playstyles, builds, techs, etc) for meta chime builds. One rn being light ice or m1 based flame regen builds.
i do have builds plan, and for techs i have some synergies for blindseer soon
one rn being silentheart with atdg fully counters the saint jay abusing mage meta
@@eevaanoraatokyoooooooo
Even when you dodge silent heart uppercut it still tracks on to you
I have never rolled the air, so now I can abuse others doing it
I thought it was just common sense for after a m1 cancel you use a aerial or spit to give up your combo in return for extra safety but apparently not
that’s why we love tap dancer
“Good players who know how to abuse you”
To be fair, matti katti just lands sometimes even if you roll it unless you have ghost
Dude air rolling is so much fun to abuse you can catch people with an attack after they air roll with literally anything you can parry then ever so casually walk behind your opponent and hit them with an m1 after they roll
I will abuse this if I meet an annoying voidwalker
Me being bad at deepwoken because of my naturally shit reaction time:
Would be nice if tap dancer was slightly reworked so you could actually roll catch people with it
you can still catch people will tap dancer but its just a tighter window
I catch with tap
this actually helps thank you nogo
I'm just vibing to the omori music in the background
i feel like my skill issue isn't so shrimple but this definitely is one of the problems
ngl i thought the guide was gonna be "press f to parry"
“It goes through dodge!!!!”
-someone in 1323 elo probably
Lmaoo just saw your comment on agas nre vid
Yes yes, its not because I dont have a server on my region, have 200 ping and need to block 1.5 seconds before an animation even start to parry
bro i been playing deepwoken since day 1 and i had no idea there was endlag after a roll cancel, i thought the game was js bugging 😭😭
i think i noticed thank you
did u notice
did you pray today? 🙏🏿
thanks nogo, for letting me know Why I SUCK At Deepwoken
Because my ping is 150-200 on Germany
I gave up on improving my skills ever since they removed Virginia and Illinois servers
they are back but it’s in oregon now
This. I see this all the time and have been tryna train myself not to do it for a week and slowly it's making me a much better player now. 👌
Nogo on his villain arc
people use dodging in panic but dodging is your second parry
should do another video on "stop hitting the air"
dodging in your 2nd parry if you time it right
also hitting the air can actually be good in most cases
hitting the air isnt bad
@@nogo yeah but its a bad habit a lot of players have for example dodging or parrying and IMMEDIATLEY m1ing, really leaves you open to moves with more range I am just trying to say that your defense isnt the only thing you should be timing
This is what I do on my nemisis dawnwalker flame charm build but instead of mani katti I use ash slam into radiant kick into nemisis crit
Bros a clone trooper
as a top 100, when i see a feint i continue holding block and dodge the next attack i dont do anything out of prediction but animation
As an asian player prediction is more reliable than animation reaction for me and most of my friends
@@Rehoblack in some cases prediction is needed, like if u know their playstyle ect
@@4sightdw nah it not because i predict well or anything i just playing on constant 300 ping
that slot would look fire with old pathfinder elite
it did
Old?
@@lipqwe_1 very
@@nogo nah what do they mean by old pathfinder elite
it got changed@@lipqwe_1
Just side roll as if they were a sharko
I don't even use common sense anymore
my king nogora22, such a inspirational video. I wait for the arrival of your next video.
Me having average 200 ping because SA has no servers in question:
BTW, that is impossible to do when there are moves like burning servants that starts the posture damage almost instantly so you cant even react to it, fight Fallen with his flamecharm build and understand what i mean
i have fought fallen and it’s because it’s so fast it goes through dodge frames. this is a ping issue
Fellow south american struggler...
tap dancer!
bro didnt press the f key
it just hit me what happend to deepwoken saying after you miss a parry you have like 0.5 secs of you blocking
you do have block frames
i remembered this video mid way through a 1v1 and it was the first time someone told me to kill myself and logged on me. thanks nogo!
this why i always pack tap dancer
Thanks man..... Nice video Nogo!!!!1!
really useful guide tysm
Glad it helped!
nah cus i really said "he didnt parry" 💀
Omg thank you
Nogo this video really helped me I even abused this climbed 200 elo
OMG this is all freshies mistake and even some experienced too. Took me a while to realised while doing chaser lmao
I'm gonna go try that out in chime to see if it helps (I play 150ms)
i guess doing all of this is truly... a no go
We do not suck at deepwoken, our build is good.
It's just that it is not fit to fight chime metamancers that use effortless/cheese builds.
this mindset is why you don’t win
cheese builds i understand tho
arent you the guy who complains on the deepwoken reddit about voidwalkers all day?? get a life loser
Even if you rolled u still didn't press m2 so you can press it after or parry
Bro has blindseer and also silenthearth
Bro these so called roll catchers dont work because literally everyone has tap dancer nowadays
they still work just a bit harder
I feint and then wait for their roll and then use judgement works every time
✅ i like using prediction myself and wait for the m1
Can ash slam work to abuse air rolling
Do you have any tips on using mantras half the time when i use mantras i just get hit in the chargeup
generally each mantra has different use case, so it'd be hard to make a general one
@@nogo true in my case on my build the mantras I feel like idk when to use are fire forge ash slam and rising flame
THANK YOU SO MUCH MY ELO JUST SENT FROM 400 to 900
I'm clumsy and I would block and dodge out of panic
thank you nogo
lol noob
if ur just hold block out of panic
hold it
wait til an attack then roll while blocking
learn this habit
then learn the one in the vid
its simple
@@Nin..niga commented 3 times
@@lolnah1992i was bored
i literally afk in the depth
No way its the guy from the deepwoken discord
thanks for defending us
nogo the red khan academy avatar is better than the grey one
REAL BRUH CLADRUM
Easier said than done for me 💀
I have 590 elo unintentionally, I am beyond saving
how is this possible
we all start somewhere
I have over 1.5k hours on deep...
@@evilalertxman2147god u got 700 more hours than me but got half of my elo
@@evilalertxman2147 wtf how r u this bad 😭😭
ok but, what about 200ms + players, we cant just be attentive to the actions of the enemy, we need to sometimes roll before they use anything , if we try to just roll when we see the attack coming, we get hitted , cuz ping is bad
if you’re 200 ping gg
@@nogo dont say that, u letting me cry about my shit country who dont have servers 😭
but if they feint u have to roll
to stop doing it just don't do it
yo make a video on how you hit slightless beam after the crit, I'm using your build but they block the beam half of the time
This will be a future synergy video! Will most likely be my next video actually
stop teaching anti-silentheart tech broooooo
i wanna stay top tier😭
make some silentheart tec tips please 🙏
it’s kinda just feint and predict their roll that’s it
@@nogo alr. I just unlocked silentheart for the first time and I got 93 medium what weapon should I go for if im just tryna improve my raw pvp skills
@@Oldteddysacred hammer is something you should get used too, it has a gb and does decent dmg
@@shango90does it help me learn the fundamentals though? can my skill with it transfer to any other weapons?
Im doing a pussy-ass Rifle Ironsing build with Visionshaper and i always m1 and run, when i get low i use 44 second Realm to proc Warrior Respite and regen 2 - 3 bars 👍
Thanks! now i'm 3 elo demon
the reason i suck is i don't waste hours of my life on this game
As long as you learn and adapt quick you dont need to spend years playing a game to be good at it
honestly thats just a skill issue
roll jump foward
thanks for the info
GARFIELD!!!! YOU HAD TEMPO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU HAD A FULL A BAR OF TEMPO
the fight here was just to showcase the concepts, wasn’t playing for the win
Nogo and sheep should 1v1
maybe!
i cant do shit if i dont do it i live in turkey i play in germany with 90-120 but feels like 240 so i have to do this
Nogo this is straight facts :D
😿
ty for this advice
Can u tell the devs to revert the pathfinder anims it looks so ass because they did it wrong because on peroxide the cloaks looks fire asf using that roblox feature
i tried
Nah wdym I parry the air
wow thank you