I’m convinced my phone knows what my TV is doing, because I just finished a Lizzie Borden binge. I watched in order “Lizzie” with Chloë Sevigne, “Lizzie Borden Took an Axe” with Christina Ricci, and “The Legend of Lizzie Borden” with Elizabeth Montgomery. All of them were very good, but I think Elizabeth Montgomery’s rendition was the most chilling. And THEN, I turn on my phone to check my mail and what pops up in my RUclips feed? . . . . 😂
I just left visiting the Lizzie Borden inn last week & loved it! Sadly I couldn't visit Maplecroft. It's been bought by a private resident of the area. A local surgeon I heard..... I got pictures from the outside but would've loved to see the inside in person. Thanks for sharing
AS of this video, we were the only one who had been given the tour and allowed to film Maplecroft. It's a beautiful home. I'm glad I got to share it as even then, they weren't sure if it would ever be open to the public.
I toured the house a few years ago, my wife wouldn't go anywhere near the child's room, said she got weird feelings when going near it! I felt weird in the maids room!
Bridget's (the maid) room is where we felt the most activity and even got some EVP responses. That's the room we were outside when we had the heaviness and shortness of breath
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I find the paranormal very interesting, fascinated by it! Would love to tag along on an investigation, it's on my bucket list!!! 🤞🤞🤞
@Jenny clark he certainly paid for most of it. He also bought Emma and Lizzie new summer and winter clothes in high fashion every year. Lizzie was not as destitute as she probably thought herself to be. She just wanted more and more.
It was the lack of indoor plumbing, with just a chamber pot to use in the middle of the night that I find the most deplorable condition from Lizzie and Emma's point of view. The girls were still young enough to have periods, and I can only imagine it being pure hell for them.
Lizzie Borden had always fascinated me. This case was so horrible but I really do think Lizzie did kill her father and stepmother all the evidence is there ..
@@FOAMProductionsFilms ..There wasn't any evidence that she didn't do it..unless you consider eating pears in the barn as evidence.....most of it was trampled or mishandled...she got off the murder charge, because society in the Edwardiam era still did not believe a woman was capable of such a nasty deed
@@maryjones4770 The murder weapon was never found. How would Lizzie have disposed of the weapon when she never left the property? The uncle conveniently arrived just before the murders and was conveniently absent just during the time of the murders. There was no evidence of blood on Lizzie or her clothes. Even the notorious dress burning was backed up by Emma that she had seen before the fact that the dress had paint on it. An unidentified man was reported loitering in the area just before the murders. Also, a similar murder took place a few weeks later while Lizzie was in custody. The strength required to do the physical damage to the Bordens, in my opinion, would have required more than a woman of Lizzie's size and social stature could have mustered. (I'm not saying a woman couldn't have done it - a woman that worked on a farm, for example, and was used to physical exertion most definitely could have, but Lizzie was a pampered society girl) Does any of this prove her innocence? No. It does, however, cast reasonable doubt on her guilt. To say there was no evidence that she didn't do it is just untrue.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms …. Well said! Where is the blood on Lizzie? Where is the murder weapon? And I always wondered about the strength that would take even for a man to do this. For a woman, that’s a lot of power to generate to crack the skulls.
No, it’s litterally not. The fact that it was an axe that raised suspicion as the murder weapon, PROVES it. To swing a full axe a woman would’ve had to use the fullest biggest arc possible to bring it down. The next swing would’ve had to occur far too quickly to be done by a woman. Even a direct hit would’ve resulted in the victim rolling or moving. There would’ve been blood everywhere from the full arc needed. A man, who could’ve used more economical strokes with more force is the only explanation, considering the splatter involved. It’s not an emotional or psychological chain of evidence. Doesn’t matter how she felt about them. Maybe she hired a man to do it. Maybe watch someone swing an axe
My paternal grandmother always said you won’t find crazy people in her family. I laughed when Lizzy Borden popped up as her distant cousin. Winston Churchill , Marilyn Monroe, and Willie Nelson popped up in the Borden family tree. My father had bipolar. It surprised me the people I grew up with connected to the Borden family tree had depression issues too.
This was very interesting...Thank you to all the Tour Guides/ Speakers that were relaying history and or their individual, Paranormal Experiences.... Thank you For Sharing.
An endlessly fascinating story. I favour the conspiracy of Lizzie, the uncle, and maybe the maid. I also believe it was a crime of passion. I find it odd that people considered Lizzie to be homely when clearly she was quite beautiful
Personally Lizzie Borden was a very kind, charitable, loving person. She was very much into animal rights, immigrants, etc. After her trial she was treated poorly and assumed guilty. She was ostracized by society and ended up in a well furnished more modern home called Maplecroft. She lived there until her death in 1927.
Sue. Both the guides are great. This doc is a very limited version of the actual tour (altho Maplecroft is exclusive to this video). If you ever get a chance to go, I highly recommend it! Please Subscribe if you haven't for more content like this. Thanks!
Oddly, I tried those myself and they did actually seem to respond. I do have questions as to if I (or she) unconsciously moved them or influenced them, but the fact that they did move when I was entirely skeptical myself does make you go hmmm
It took me a moment to understand what the "talking sticks" were. You mean the dowsing rods. I have used these, and I don't know what they indicate, but they sure did move for me. They didn't just go back and forth for me. I had them spinning!
My husband and I stayed the night in the lawyers room. As soon as we got there we was tired from our long drive from Ohio. We laid down for a bit but as soon as we laid down I heard a creaking noise I took my phone and took a picture from behind me because I was laying away from the window. The closet door opened . I had my husband get up and look because my heart sank to my stomach lol. He said there was a vent there and the door really has no latch to keep closed or a door handle .. ok that explained it.. but it never did it again all night. Very creepy . Also I went downstairs to smoke my husband was laying in bed. There was another couple there that was looking around and our door was shut to the bedroom and it had the old school latch to lock. The door kept opening and closing the couple was talking to the door and my husband says the window to the bathroom and the window in the bedroom was open causing a vacuum .. but it didn’t explain how the latch was locking and unlocking . I would love to stay again but it was so hot it was uncomfortable to sleep and I was awake from around 2-2:30 until morning . I was scared to go to the bathroom that morning lol . The breakfast was good
I believe that Abby Borden killed Andrew Borden, and Lizzie witnessed it, and then killed Abby. That’s why Lizzie had no blood on her clothing. Abby would’ve been full of Andrew’s blood and because there was no forensics back then nobody would’ve been able to tell the difference of whose blood was on Abby. It was probably a mixture of Abby and Andrew’s blood on Abby. This has always been my theory.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I believe that when Abby went upstairs to change, that’s when Lizzie whacked her!! Lizzie came up behind Abby, and pushed her down, placing the rags on the back of her head so there would be no blood splatter… She was a pretty smart cookie. It all makes sense to me, and after watching every documentary and reading all the books, watching all the shows…I am surprised that no one has ever even suggested this!!
They were able to ascertain a time frame for Abby's death, due to the congealed blood and the contents of her stomach. Abby was dead before Andrew got home. Ì
I think the uncle came back and Lissie helped her uncle kill the Bordons. I think the maid helped hide the fact and the sister left knowing what was going to happen. I believe Lizzie set everything up so that he could do it. That is why she had nothing on her.
People of that time didn't have the forethought not to change the home and surroundings, but I think the new owners have done a great job in restoring and maintaining some artifacts of the time.
Two million for that? 😂😂😂. Kind of interesting how had a family not been disfigured and destroyed by an axe wielding psychopath it'd probably be around the 350-400k dollar range.
The room at 12:02 in my vid is in Maplecroft, Lizzie's 2nd residence. Not sure if that’s where he was at that time. It looked like he cut between the houses a few times. Glad you found me. I need to up my subs, he’s about 4 million ahead of me lol
Who ever it was, I don't think they acted alone. Lizzie's uncle who was staying with them, he worked as a butcher. Suspiciously the maid was given a considerable amount of money and disappeared soon after the trial. After watching many different videos about the case, I think there is more to what happened and only the person or persons know the complete truth to who did it and why
Thanks for your input! Please like and subscribe if you haven't. I will be returning to the house in May and doing a new doc as I will be spending the night in Bridgette's room, the place where I got the most activity before!
The dragon ball z blue t shirt ponytail guy with the sideburns was hilariously awkward and weird 😂 he’s a guy who would take you on a tour of the forest, slap a tree and confidently say, “now this is here is a tree.”
Very amusing! The first thing I noticed was the tune to "Lizzie Borden with an axe" was a bit different than I'm used to. Not important, just noticed it. I would have loved to visit the house, but I am sure I would not want to spend the night there! Whether it's ghosts or just bad vibes, I'm not interested is staying too long. Some places do have strange things happen. I witnessed something at a house in Vicksburg. When I asked the guide after the tour, "Do you have a lot of that here?" her answer was, "Not usually in this part of the house." I think guides in such places just get used to it. And I loved the touch of the iron and ironing board -- the correct size too -- on the dining room table. Do you really have to eat mutton if you stay there?
i consider myself a risk taker....but I wouldn't stay in that house for all the money in the world! No way Jose. Amazing video, thanks for taking the time to do this!
Did anyone notice when the girl in the black shirt was talking in front of that window the curtain was moving but the window was closed at the beginning
Very possible. Some of the strongest sensations I had were in and at the door of Bridgette's room. We also did some EVP in there and kept getting a man's voice saying "Where's Bridgette?" (which is also my wife's name and she wasn't there - spooky) over and over.
Wondering how they decided the basement area is a speakeasy? That spirit board was there before the Borden's took up occupancy? For real? Could explain the violence there
Yes the basement area at Maplecroft was used as a Speakeasy by Lizzie during prohibition. The basement is very close to still original, Sadly, the owners of the Borden house are selling Maplecroft as the city will not allow them to open it for public view. It's a real shame that part of history will probably soon be lost. According to the guides and owner. who have done painstaking research to recreate the house as closely as possible to the Borden era, the Spirit board was in the house when the Bordens moved in.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms That's very sad. I don't care so much to visit the house on Second St but I did want to step inside Maplecroft. You would think that Fall River would need the revenue a place like that can generate. Besides the ships, what else is still there for tourism?
I love that you went to Maplecroft. Whether Lizzie did it or conspired with her uncle or it was someone not involved with Lizzie at all, I feel that when it happened , she finally felt free. She could finally live her life and enjoy it. I bet she felt very confined and shut in living there with her father and his old ways. Whatever happened, I believe Lizzie was relieved and if her spirit is anywhere visiting on earth ,its definitely at Maplecroft.
Thank you. At the time of making this video, I was the first one allowed to film inside Maplecroft. I am very grateful for this opportunity and glad I could share it. I will be returning to the Borden house in May and doing an another video so please subscribe!
Evil Lizzy is in hell. There is an afterlife. I had a death experience. Lizzie was a freeloader who refused to work, and her father worked very hard his whole life, and she wanted to live extravagantly off of his hard earned money. When he gave her that tenant house to try to make money she wouldn't even do that. She wanted to just kill him and live extravagantly off of his money, which she did. She is pure evil. Many people live horribly, they live confined, they don't have any utilities and they don't kill people, so they can live extravagantly. Evil Lizzie is a piece of demon trash.
Don't piss off Mr. Borden! 4 Nights you should definitely see or feel some activity. Ask the guides questions. They are very knowledgeable and helpful.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms Thanks for the tips! I am not into pissing people off. I am a peacemaker. :) I just added an extra day so it will be 5 days straight. My feeling is the Borden family was a loving family with communication issues. One of the reasons I am going there is to see if the paranormal exists. The main reason is to pay tribute to a great family. I also was apart of a blended family. There were 10 of us. :)
@Jerry Pohatu as you probably saw in the video, you’ll get an upset stomach and a headache. That’s what happened when he posed as Andrew Borden on the sofa in the murdered position. As soon as he left the room, he felt better. That’s what happens when you piss off Mr. Borden
always wondered what she did with the murder weapon since they say it was not the one in the basement. thought maybe she hid it in the wall or something. There were reports she burnt a dress in the stove three days after the murders that had paint on it. what did she paint? maybe a wall.
She had a witness that the dress did indeed have paint on it (Emma, so that may or may not be reliable) I don't believe Lizzie committed the actual murders. I believe whoever did took the weapon with them which solves that, It is highly unlikely IMO however, that Lizzie was not involved in the plot.
Abby's autopsy pic of her shaved head, shows the wounds are v short but v deep. Theryre way too short to be a hatchet blade. I'd guess the flat iron would be easy to swing with the point facing the victim & could do the severe damage shown. Andrews pics so blurred you can't even tell it's his face .
@@itzlavanyasanker7432 My last name doesn't have to be Borden for me to be related to Lizzie and Andrew we all just have to have a common ancestor that connects us.
We know now it was the illegitimate son that did it he ran out of the house at 11:02 and bumped into the next door neighbor carrying a cloth bag with the axe
The way the murders went down it could not have been planned or a conspiracy. They were murders of opportunity. When Abby was murdered the maid was outside cleaning windows. Who would have known Abby would have sent her to do that? No one. As for Andrew's murder, no one expected him to come home early from his morning errands or to want to take a nap. Only Lizzy was home for both murders and her story of going to the barn was a lie as the police found no trace of footprints or whatever there. I don't think Emma had a clue what went on, but eventually found out, hence her moving away from Lizzy and never speaking to her again. The uncle had an airtight alibi for his time during the murders, so it wasn't him. I also have a theory a hatchet was not the murder weapon, but possibly an iron, which Lizzy was using that morning btw. Remember the hatchet they found never quite fit the wounds. Anyways great video.
How about the out of place coat under Andrew Borden's head after his murder , he was killed on a very hot day so why would the coat be there 🤔 maybe that How Lizzie didn't have blood on her??? She had that coat on .
Great show but that piano muaic almost drove me up the wall. Lizzie donned that overcoat that was under Andrew's head. Why would he have worn that on his errands? Nobody would question a blood soaked coat that was under gis head.
I'm very skeptical about the rods. I tried them and they did move without me consciously doing anything. Still, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in them. I spent a lot of time with Sue and don't think she would be intentionally deceptive with me, I do wonder if you can unconsciously influence them. Thanks for your comment!
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I'm sorry, but that whole ghost nonsense is a con job. I might go there and spend the night for the history, but ghosts aren't real. I will not take part in the tour, because I don't like to be lied to, or disrespect anyone. I would probably taunt the so-called ghosts to show themselves and try their best to hurt me. If there really were ghosts, what will they do when the sun destroys the earth? Will they all become space ghosts? If this shit was real, it would be proven by science, but it's not. Not believing would be like not believing the world is round. Same with religions, but I won't go there, other than to say faith is the opposite of fact.
I'm pretty skeptical about the rods but I did try them and they seemed to move some when I wasn't consciously moving them. Still not a firm believer in the dousing rods however.
I believe Lizzie and Bridget were involved but the actual killings were carried out by a man. I get a very bad vibe from Bridget and John Morse but not Lizzie.
The dead can't hurt you. I'm sorry but most made up and the headaches...are they putting something in the vents? Just my opinion. Would love to go for the history tho
I may be alone in this nowadays but I don't believe she did it I do however believe she was covering for someone she loved her sister or maybe an unacceptable love for Uncle John
As I've stated in other comments, I don't believe she did it either.. It would be hard for her not to be involved in some way, but I don't think she did the actual killing. Make sure to subscribe, as I will be returning to the house in May and will have a follow up video as I'm staying in the Bridgette Sullivan room where we felt the most presence before.
Omg I love history 💯 at school always on point A + and lizzy story the best my opinion she didn't murder her father and stepmother I think who murder them was one's of he's Tennant lizzy father the they before had argument with him and I think he never left the house he got away with murder and people blame lizzy yost because she didn't like her stepmother but lizzy was not guilty ,
The woman talking at the beginning 🙄 look I find the paranormal and history interesting but I wouldn’t say two people being hacked to death by an axe is a “cool” part of history. I always keep in mind that these were real people. This is not a movie and we have to have respect for the victims.
You have to remember that most people are not super comfortable in front of a camera, so I don't think the expression was meant to be disrespectful. I also think she was referencing the location more than the events
That's how I feel about the Villisca murder house...I think the owners finally changed the sign out front. It was in such bad taste. I can't get enough Lizzie B, but the Villisca case is much worse.
@@jartober I think there’s a fine line between interest in history and the paranormal and respect and decency. I always consider how I would feel if my loved one was taken in such a tragic way and people were standing outside the house taking photos and treating it like it was Halloween fun. I wouldn’t want my self or a loved one to be disrespected like that.
How can someone bee soo happy about a murder that was soo bad they had no face and no neck grow some murder i am not happy that pple are soo happy to go there boo.
It's history. I think we all have a fascination with the dark side of human nature. It's no different than visiting a battlefield where hundreds or more died. Dark history is still history. We should always be able to learn something from it.
I watched again the Elizabeth Montgomery version which they used court transcripts in it- but do you think she was sexually and emotionally abused? If her dad took an axe to kill her pigeons - that would have been abusive to my mind...and the weird kissing and making her touch her dead mom? (was that what her flashback was?) ugh- the murders were too much from rage that maybe she had PTSD from abuse? I d K - your thoughts?
That movie was highly fictionalized. There has been speculation by some that LB was sexually and/or emotionally abused but little proof has been presented to back up those claims. IMO the murders would have taken far more physical strength than a society girl like Lizzie would have had. The killings were almost definitely perpetrated by a man, which is exactly why Lizzie was acquitted. Lizzie being involved in a conspiracy is likely however in my opinion and probably due to her jealousy and dislike of her stepmother and the usual culprit, money.
In looking at the photos of the two murder victims why don't you see a lot of blood around the victims. Abby had a white dress it doesn't show stains and Andrew appears to be laying on a white or light colored pillow that didn't have any stains. Even though the photos are black and white, wouldn't you expect being hit like that with an ax that a gross amount of blood would be all over the place?
A lot of people say blood would have splattered everywhere, but we can’t know that for sure. There was blood, but how much, we don’t know and I suggest it’s reasonable the murderer got away with these crimes because there wasn’t as much blood as we may think and was able to hide, clean, and destroy evidence.
I agree with the "abuse" theory. I've said so in comments in various videos.. Lizzie did it. As far as her not having blood all over her ....... all she had to do is deliver a death blow and then after that, when their dead and their hearts aren't beating any longer, she can wail on them to her hearts content, which she did, She dumped her emotional pain by striking them over and over. That's why she was quite calm after.
Appreciate your input. Can't say I agree, but love the discussion. Thanks for watching. I will be revisiting the house in a few weeks and doing a new video.
@FOAM Productions I should have included this as well. I have all the books and have read all the theories. I don't think anyone else did it. It all points to lizzie. Not John Morse either.
@@Rottimail I don't see any real evidence of abuse. Lizzie and Emma still lived there voluntarily. As I've stated in other threads, I've seen the skulls. I don't believe a society girl like Lizzie could have exerted the kind of force and and energy to have created the damage caused. I feel it was almost certainly a man who did the actual killing. If LB had been a large farm girl used to doing heavy lifting and hard labor, maybe, but not the size and stature she was.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms If it was a man, as you believe, it would have been someone who Andrew hurt or injured on a personal and intimate level. That is how these overkill killings work. They now have years of evidence to this end. To bludgeon the elderly Bordens that many times is a crime of passion. The police element has years of these kinds of crimes under their belt and it always comes down to two things. The murderer is close to home and it was personal on an emotional level. What man could that have been? John Morse? No? There would have been nothing that Andrew could have done to John that was intimate and personal. William Borden? Same thing as John Morse. There is no evidence and wasn't at that period of time either. They didn't talk of sexual, abuse at that time. However in our modern world we have enough cases of abuse (sexual as well) to now understand that it probably was some type of abuse. Nothing else seems to be able to explain the rage that had to have been felt by the murderer.
They lied about the Ouija board being in the house before the Bordens. The patent for the Ouija board was awarded on February 10, 1891, making the Kennard Novelty Company’s version the oldest Ouija board in the world. That was just a year before the murders. The family was already in the house for 20 years. That one does look old, probably early 20th century, because the planchette doesn't have a hole to see through it, which started in 1910. The original ones from 1891 look similar, but are a little different. That one is clearly newer. They had spirit, or talking boards before that, but they did not have the word Ouija on them. The idea of using "talking boards" to communicate with spirits or ghosts is very ancient. Not surprised they would lie about it, since they lie out of their teeth about hauntings. They should know people can Google the history of things. I doubt it was stolen and returned. Sounds far fetched. The thief would probably just throw it away.
Appreciate your input and thanks for watching. I'm sure there are tons of "legends" and stories that are embellished or possibly just made up. I try to include the interesting ones.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms The Ouija board story is completely made up, and easy to prove because of the patent and the design. That one is definitely 20th century. If these "ghosts" were real, and answered questions with those rods, or the board, then why can't they just ask who the killer was? Abby was struck in the front of her head first, so she definitely saw who killed her. People like to believe this stuff and get themselves all worked up like children. Those pictures of stick figures are fake. They lie to attract interest to make money. That house is big business. I would like to stay there for the history, and this story is fascinating without the paranormal garbage. If I go, I will not take the Ghost tour. I couldn't stay respectful while being lied to. Here's a big question. Where will these ghosts go when the sun destroys the earth? Will they have to find another planet to haunt, or do they become space ghosts? Might as well believe in the tooth fairy as well.
No sir. I don't delete any comments (unless they're patently offensive) I'm not sure why your newest comment isn't showing up. I can see it but when I go to page it's not there. You're previous comment about the Ouija board is still visible best I can tell. I enjoy and encourage discussion and don't require anyone to agree with me.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms No doubt, but it did get removed somehow. I deleted the comment questioning what happened to the second comment. These comments weren't really about what we agree on, but what I can prove by the history of the Ouija board. My remarks on that are provable facts. Something couldn't be there that wasn't made yet. On ghosts, well feel free to believe what you want, but centuries of physics research have found nothing like this exists. If they did, they would literally be haunting everyone, everywhere. My house was built in 1888, and I knew 2 people that died here, personally, my father being one of them. I've known dozens of people, including 2 of my best friends that have died, and not one person has shown themselves to me as ghosts. When you believe something, your mind can play serious tricks on you. These people that run that house thrive on that. They know that many people are superstitious. Nobody that truly doesn't believe comes away from that house with a changed mind, and people fake stuff on RUclips for views. I would sit in that house all night by myself, and bet money that I wouldn't see anything. Like I said, believe what you want, believe what makes you happy. I have no faith in religions, or superstitions.
Ppl have been dying and have been murdered for hundreds of years in our cities and in our houses. This house is nothing special, just last week 5 family members were killed in their own house by an intruder
The Borden house is special for it's historical significance. I've been to many "murder houses". Some seem to retain energies while others don't. It's part of my fascination with such locations. That's horrible about that family. All murders are horrible but that doesn't stop them from being intriguing. What disconnect is there that allows one human being to intentionally kill another?
Lizzy do you know what this is?. No sir it looks like some kind of mechanical contraption. It's called a polygraph machine lizzy. What does it do? It helps to get to the truth. Should I be worried? We'll soon find out.
Great video! Very interesting and nice musical background. I also found the thing about superstition and money very interesting! unfortunately I didn't quite understand why people do this? I would be very happy if someone could explain it to me. Greetings from Germany!
I don't really understand why people leave money on tombstones. In Andrew Borden's case, it might be because they old miser would like that better than flowers, but I have seen it in other places. I never saw it until about 40 years ago. Maybe it is related to throwing pennies into fountains. I don't know why people do that either, but they sure do it a lot!
🖤this is for Andrew, he is truly black hearted in ways you can't imagine, my guide's showed me many things about Andrew Borden and also Abby,look the other way she did.abby came forward and told me,He was not at me.daugther's not pure.by some one's hand,oh ,oh finger it out,its not too hard.thats the problem
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I’m convinced my phone knows what my TV is doing, because I just finished a Lizzie Borden binge. I watched in order “Lizzie” with Chloë Sevigne, “Lizzie Borden Took an Axe” with Christina Ricci, and “The Legend of Lizzie Borden” with Elizabeth Montgomery. All of them were very good, but I think Elizabeth Montgomery’s rendition was the most chilling. And THEN, I turn on my phone to check my mail and what pops up in my RUclips feed? . . . . 😂
Didn’t you know they spy on us with our phones? And iPads
I am sure they are tracking what we are interested in so they can provide more of it for us.
I just left visiting the Lizzie Borden inn last week & loved it! Sadly I couldn't visit Maplecroft. It's been bought by a private resident of the area. A local surgeon I heard..... I got pictures from the outside but would've loved to see the inside in person. Thanks for sharing
AS of this video, we were the only one who had been given the tour and allowed to film Maplecroft. It's a beautiful home. I'm glad I got to share it as even then, they weren't sure if it would ever be open to the public.
Thr music is so loud and distracting
Such an interesting story! The tour guide, explaining everything is a great tour guide. Great vibe and energy coming off him!
One of the best documentaries I’ve seen on the case.
It was nice of the tour guide to dress up. Where was he on August 4, 1892?
The guy showing you around the rooms has a lovely voice and great personality!
This woman left a big mystery of murder in America history.
I toured the house a few years ago, my wife wouldn't go anywhere near the child's room, said she got weird feelings when going near it! I felt weird in the maids room!
Bridget's (the maid) room is where we felt the most activity and even got some EVP responses. That's the room we were outside when we had the heaviness and shortness of breath
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I find the paranormal very interesting, fascinated by it! Would love to tag along on an investigation, it's on my bucket list!!! 🤞🤞🤞
ng; mister borden paid for lizzie's european tour. He gave his wife's relative a house.He gave both lizzie and emma each a house. Hardly a miser.
@Jenny clark he certainly paid for most of it. He also bought Emma and Lizzie new summer and winter clothes in high fashion every year. Lizzie was not as destitute as she probably thought herself to be. She just wanted more and more.
It was the lack of indoor plumbing, with just a chamber pot to use in the middle of the night that I find the most deplorable condition from Lizzie and Emma's point of view. The girls were still young enough to have periods, and I can only imagine it being pure hell for them.
Exactly. Mr Borden is portrayed to be miser. He was not.
Lizzie Borden had always fascinated me. This case was so horrible but I really do think Lizzie did kill her father and stepmother all the evidence is there ..
There's also a lot of evidence that she didn't commit the murders. It is hard to believe that she wasn't complicit in some way tho.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms ..There wasn't any evidence that she didn't do it..unless you consider eating pears in the barn as evidence.....most of it was trampled or mishandled...she got off the murder charge, because society in the Edwardiam era still did not believe a woman was capable of such a nasty deed
@@maryjones4770 The murder weapon was never found. How would Lizzie have disposed of the weapon when she never left the property? The uncle conveniently arrived just before the murders and was conveniently absent just during the time of the murders. There was no evidence of blood on Lizzie or her clothes. Even the notorious dress burning was backed up by Emma that she had seen before the fact that the dress had paint on it. An unidentified man was reported loitering in the area just before the murders. Also, a similar murder took place a few weeks later while Lizzie was in custody. The strength required to do the physical damage to the Bordens, in my opinion, would have required more than a woman of Lizzie's size and social stature could have mustered. (I'm not saying a woman couldn't have done it - a woman that worked on a farm, for example, and was used to physical exertion most definitely could have, but Lizzie was a pampered society girl) Does any of this prove her innocence? No. It does, however, cast reasonable doubt on her guilt. To say there was no evidence that she didn't do it is just untrue.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms …. Well said! Where is the blood on Lizzie? Where is the murder weapon? And I always wondered about the strength that would take even for a man to do this. For a woman, that’s a lot of power to generate to crack the skulls.
No, it’s litterally not. The fact that it was an axe that raised suspicion as the murder weapon, PROVES it. To swing a full axe a woman would’ve had to use the fullest biggest arc possible to bring it down. The next swing would’ve had to occur far too quickly to be done by a woman. Even a direct hit would’ve resulted in the victim rolling or moving. There would’ve been blood everywhere from the full arc needed. A man, who could’ve used more economical strokes with more force is the only explanation, considering the splatter involved. It’s not an emotional or psychological chain of evidence. Doesn’t matter how she felt about them. Maybe she hired a man to do it. Maybe watch someone swing an axe
In the 1950s, we played double Dutch rope jumping to this grim chant!
This was a great documentary. Newly subscribed and hope to see more of these style videos in your future.
Thank you! We plan to do more of these and also a lot more of the one-take Barker Ranch style docs.
My paternal grandmother always said you won’t find crazy people in her family. I laughed when Lizzy Borden popped up as her distant cousin. Winston Churchill , Marilyn Monroe, and Willie Nelson popped up in the Borden family tree. My father had bipolar. It surprised me the people I grew up with connected to the Borden family tree had depression issues too.
This was very interesting...Thank you to all the Tour Guides/ Speakers that were relaying history and or their individual, Paranormal Experiences....
Thank you For Sharing.
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Look at the old pictures
Love the tour guide! Thank you for sharing.
An endlessly fascinating story. I favour the conspiracy of Lizzie, the uncle, and maybe the maid. I also believe it was a crime of passion. I find it odd that people considered Lizzie to be homely when clearly she was quite beautiful
Thanks for posting this vid !!!!!
Thanks for the comment!
Personally Lizzie Borden was a very kind, charitable, loving person. She was very much into animal rights, immigrants, etc. After her trial she was treated poorly and assumed guilty. She was ostracized by society and ended up in a well furnished more modern home called Maplecroft. She lived there until her death in 1927.
This is one of the best tours I have ever seen. I want to just because of the tour guide! I forgot her name I would love to meet Her.
Sue. Both the guides are great. This doc is a very limited version of the actual tour (altho Maplecroft is exclusive to this video). If you ever get a chance to go, I highly recommend it! Please Subscribe if you haven't for more content like this. Thanks!
The woman with the talking sticks cracked me up. So believable 😂
Oddly, I tried those myself and they did actually seem to respond. I do have questions as to if I (or she) unconsciously moved them or influenced them, but the fact that they did move when I was entirely skeptical myself does make you go hmmm
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I think it is a joke. The so called paranormal is BS.
It took me a moment to understand what the "talking sticks" were. You mean the dowsing rods. I have used these, and I don't know what they indicate, but they sure did move for me. They didn't just go back and forth for me. I had them spinning!
I love the enthusiasm of the tour guides! ❤
Really enjoyed this. I can never get enough of this story. Great job. Thanks for sharing! 🖤 - p.s. I really want that couch!
Who is watching this in 2021? I am.
My husband and I stayed the night in the lawyers room. As soon as we got there we was tired from our long drive from Ohio. We laid down for a bit but as soon as we laid down I heard a creaking noise I took my phone and took a picture from behind me because I was laying away from the window. The closet door opened . I had my husband get up and look because my heart sank to my stomach lol. He said there was a vent there and the door really has no latch to keep closed or a door handle .. ok that explained it.. but it never did it again all night. Very creepy . Also I went downstairs to smoke my husband was laying in bed. There was another couple there that was looking around and our door was shut to the bedroom and it had the old school latch to lock. The door kept opening and closing the couple was talking to the door and my husband says the window to the bathroom and the window in the bedroom was open causing a vacuum .. but it didn’t explain how the latch was locking and unlocking . I would love to stay again but it was so hot it was uncomfortable to sleep and I was awake from around 2-2:30 until morning . I was scared to go to the bathroom that morning lol . The breakfast was good
Thanks for sharing your experience! It is a fascinating place. I plan to make a return trip next year and may do another video.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms we also plan to go back and get the ghost hunting equipment next time hopefully I won’t be so spooked lol loved your video !
Mutton for breakfast?
I believe that Abby Borden killed Andrew Borden, and Lizzie witnessed it, and then killed Abby. That’s why Lizzie had no blood on her clothing. Abby would’ve been full of Andrew’s blood and because there was no forensics back then nobody would’ve been able to tell the difference of whose blood was on Abby. It was probably a mixture of Abby and Andrew’s blood on Abby. This has always been my theory.
@@cribchicklet that’s a different perspective haven’t heard anyone say that before. Appreciate the input
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I believe that when Abby went upstairs to change, that’s when Lizzie whacked her!! Lizzie came up behind Abby, and pushed her down, placing the rags on the back of her head so there would be no blood splatter… She was a pretty smart cookie.
It all makes sense to me, and after watching every documentary and reading all the books, watching all the shows…I am surprised that no one has ever even suggested this!!
They were able to ascertain a time frame for Abby's death, due to the congealed blood and the contents of her stomach. Abby was dead before Andrew got home. Ì
Fab video thank you!!!
Beautiful house😍💖. Thank you🙏
I think the uncle came back and Lissie helped her uncle kill the Bordons. I think the maid helped hide the fact and the sister left knowing what was going to happen. I believe Lizzie set everything up so that he could do it. That is why she had nothing on her.
I believe the uncle had an alibi.
I believe that Lizzie and John had something to do with the murders to
@@ElizabethBraze-pp7rs to what?
31:14 😳😳😳 there's literally someone's face there. I'm thinking Abby Borden 🤔🤔
People of that time didn't have the forethought not to change the home and surroundings, but I think the new owners have done a great job in restoring and maintaining some artifacts of the time.
Great documentary! The house is for sale allegedly for 2 million (Axe not included) lol
Two million for that? 😂😂😂. Kind of interesting how had a family not been disfigured and destroyed by an axe wielding psychopath it'd probably be around the 350-400k dollar range.
Came From Omar Josh channel😂😂 we literally saw a black shadow in his video ( in Lizzie room ) 12:02 this room what I mean
The room at 12:02 in my vid is in Maplecroft, Lizzie's 2nd residence. Not sure if that’s where he was at that time. It looked like he cut between the houses a few times. Glad you found me. I need to up my subs, he’s about 4 million ahead of me lol
The guide is a Natural. Very good. All of them are great.
Who ever it was, I don't think they acted alone. Lizzie's uncle who was staying with them, he worked as a butcher. Suspiciously the maid was given a considerable amount of money and disappeared soon after the trial.
After watching many different videos about the case, I think there is more to what happened and only the person or persons know the complete truth to who did it and why
Thanks for your input! Please like and subscribe if you haven't. I will be returning to the house in May and doing a new doc as I will be spending the night in Bridgette's room, the place where I got the most activity before!
Bridget didn't disappear. They mentioned where and when she died.
The dragon ball z blue t shirt ponytail guy with the sideburns was hilariously awkward and weird 😂 he’s a guy who would take you on a tour of the forest, slap a tree and confidently say, “now this is here is a tree.”
lol. I loved him and thought he was great
So glad the murder house remains intact, & open to guests. Hoping to visit.
Very amusing! The first thing I noticed was the tune to "Lizzie Borden with an axe" was a bit different than I'm used to. Not important, just noticed it. I would have loved to visit the house, but I am sure I would not want to spend the night there! Whether it's ghosts or just bad vibes, I'm not interested is staying too long.
Some places do have strange things happen. I witnessed something at a house in Vicksburg. When I asked the guide after the tour, "Do you have a lot of that here?" her answer was, "Not usually in this part of the house." I think guides in such places just get used to it.
And I loved the touch of the iron and ironing board -- the correct size too -- on the dining room table. Do you really have to eat mutton if you stay there?
It was offered at that time but they didn't hold an ax to your head ;)
In regard to the dowsing rods, I have tried them and they do move. In fact, I can make them spin!
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i consider myself a risk taker....but I wouldn't stay in that house for all the money in the world! No way Jose.
Amazing video, thanks for taking the time to do this!
A risk taker - you mean you breathe in and OUT - wow
When the woman outside is speaking in the beginning the curtains are moving behind her!😳
I saw that too 😳😳😱😱 but idk if it was the wind 😅😅
@@itzlavanyasanker7432 they were moving in an unnatural way
The uncle was also very suspicious with his too perfect alibis.
Did anyone notice when the girl in the black shirt was talking in front of that window the curtain was moving but the window was closed at the beginning
The man did a good job, the women was like trying to listen to story time with Penny Marshall 😂
I believe the heaviness the guests feel is Bridgettes .
Very possible. Some of the strongest sensations I had were in and at the door of Bridgette's room. We also did some EVP in there and kept getting a man's voice saying "Where's Bridgette?" (which is also my wife's name and she wasn't there - spooky) over and over.
i have done the tour six times. sue was my tour guide twice.
Sue is a sweetheart. Next time you see her, give her my best
Wondering how they decided the basement area is a speakeasy? That spirit board was there before the Borden's took up occupancy? For real? Could explain the violence there
Yes the basement area at Maplecroft was used as a Speakeasy by Lizzie during prohibition. The basement is very close to still original, Sadly, the owners of the Borden house are selling Maplecroft as the city will not allow them to open it for public view. It's a real shame that part of history will probably soon be lost. According to the guides and owner. who have done painstaking research to recreate the house as closely as possible to the Borden era, the Spirit board was in the house when the Bordens moved in.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms That's very sad. I don't care so much to visit the house on Second St but I did want to step inside Maplecroft. You would think that Fall River would need the revenue a place like that can generate. Besides the ships, what else is still there for tourism?
we drove by maplecroft. and we have been to the Borden cemetery.
I love that you went to Maplecroft. Whether Lizzie did it or conspired with her uncle or it was someone not involved with Lizzie at all, I feel that when it happened , she finally felt free. She could finally live her life and enjoy it. I bet she felt very confined and shut in living there with her father and his old ways. Whatever happened, I believe Lizzie was relieved and if her spirit is anywhere visiting on earth ,its definitely at Maplecroft.
Thank you. At the time of making this video, I was the first one allowed to film inside Maplecroft. I am very grateful for this opportunity and glad I could share it. I will be returning to the Borden house in May and doing an another video so please subscribe!
Evil Lizzy is in hell. There is an afterlife. I had a death experience. Lizzie was a freeloader who refused to work, and her father worked very hard his whole life, and she wanted to live extravagantly off of his hard earned money. When he gave her that tenant house to try to make money she wouldn't even do that. She wanted to just kill him and live extravagantly off of his money, which she did. She is pure evil. Many people live horribly, they live confined, they don't have any utilities and they don't kill people, so they can live extravagantly. Evil Lizzie is a piece of demon trash.
I'd love to go an investigate lizzie house I'd be happy if I could actually go there
I am staying there in May for 5 nights. Do you have any tips for me?
Don't piss off Mr. Borden! 4 Nights you should definitely see or feel some activity. Ask the guides questions. They are very knowledgeable and helpful.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms Thanks for the tips! I am not into pissing people off. I am a peacemaker. :) I just added an extra day so it will be 5 days straight. My feeling is the Borden family was a loving family with communication issues. One of the reasons I am going there is to see if the paranormal exists. The main reason is to pay tribute to a great family. I also was apart of a blended family. There were 10 of us. :)
@Jerry Pohatu as you probably saw in the video, you’ll get an upset stomach and a headache. That’s what happened when he posed as Andrew Borden on the sofa in the murdered position. As soon as he left the room, he felt better. That’s what happens when you piss off Mr. Borden
@Jerry Pohatu he was said to be very strict and wouldn’t stand for no disrespect.
@Jerry Pohatu you never know. People have heard voices in the house
always wondered what she did with the murder weapon since they say it was not the one in the basement. thought maybe she hid it in the wall or something. There were reports she burnt a dress in the stove three days after the murders that had paint on it. what did she paint? maybe a wall.
She had a witness that the dress did indeed have paint on it (Emma, so that may or may not be reliable) I don't believe Lizzie committed the actual murders. I believe whoever did took the weapon with them which solves that, It is highly unlikely IMO however, that Lizzie was not involved in the plot.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms yeah, biggest thing that made me go towards guilty was her trying to buy the poison the day before. really shows bad intent.
Abby's autopsy pic of her shaved head, shows the wounds are v short but v deep. Theryre way too short to be a hatchet blade. I'd guess the flat iron would be easy to swing with the point facing the victim & could do the severe damage shown. Andrews pics so blurred you can't even tell it's his face .
Everything I have read says the hatchet head did fit the wounds.
Great tour but the background music is annoying and distracting
Been intrested in her since I was a kid. Don't know why. But believe she did it
That curtain behind that woman I don't know if the window was open but the curtain was moving
It was a fan. There are no ghosts
I was doing my family research and found out that Lizzie is my cousin and Abby is my cousin also.
Really? 😳 😱 but your surname is Williams not Borden 😅😅😅 no offense
@@itzlavanyasanker7432 Cousins Domt have the same last name..
@@itzlavanyasanker7432 My last name doesn't have to be Borden for me to be related to Lizzie and Andrew we all just have to have a common ancestor that connects us.
@Colton Huxley what does this have to do with Lizzie Borden?
@@Beanwafflecheese7 yeah I forgot about that 😅😅
We know now it was the illegitimate son that did it he ran out of the house at 11:02 and bumped into the next door neighbor carrying a cloth bag with the axe
That is a theory - a man claimed to be the son and confessed but it has not been proven that Mr. Borden even had an illegitimate son.
Thats a theory I'm a decendent of the bordens and their has never been a mention of him having an illitlagatimate son
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hello Sue! could you tell me who the framed drawing on the stove is a drawing of pretty please with sugar on top
Could you give me a time on what youre looking for and I will try to get you an answer!
at 5:20 That is a picture of Miss Alice Russell. She was a witness of Lizzie “burning the dress”, and gave her testimony at the trial.
So nobody seen them curtains moving? While the young lady was talking😳🧐
There’s air vents near the windows. That probably explains the curtains :)
The way the murders went down it could not have been planned or a conspiracy. They were murders of opportunity. When Abby was murdered the maid was outside cleaning windows. Who would have known Abby would have sent her to do that? No one. As for Andrew's murder, no one expected him to come home early from his morning errands or to want to take a nap. Only Lizzy was home for both murders and her story of going to the barn was a lie as the police found no trace of footprints or whatever there. I don't think Emma had a clue what went on, but eventually found out, hence her moving away from Lizzy and never speaking to her again. The uncle had an airtight alibi for his time during the murders, so it wasn't him. I also have a theory a hatchet was not the murder weapon, but possibly an iron, which Lizzy was using that morning btw. Remember the hatchet they found never quite fit the wounds. Anyways great video.
How about the out of place coat under Andrew Borden's head after his murder , he was killed on a very hot day so why would the coat be there 🤔 maybe that How Lizzie didn't have blood on her??? She had that coat on .
Great show but that piano muaic almost drove me up the wall. Lizzie donned that overcoat that was under Andrew's head. Why would he have worn that on his errands? Nobody would question a blood soaked coat that was under gis head.
Thank you for your comments. A few people have complained about the music. I will adjust that on future videos. I appreciate your input.
The music is toooo loud !! It needs to be softer or not at all
Sue moved the rods at the beginning of this video. Watch her hand. She tips her hand from side to side
I'm very skeptical about the rods. I tried them and they did move without me consciously doing anything. Still, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in them. I spent a lot of time with Sue and don't think she would be intentionally deceptive with me, I do wonder if you can unconsciously influence them. Thanks for your comment!
@@FOAMProductionsFilms I'm sorry, but that whole ghost nonsense is a con job. I might go there and spend the night for the history, but ghosts aren't real. I will not take part in the tour, because I don't like to be lied to, or disrespect anyone. I would probably taunt the so-called ghosts to show themselves and try their best to hurt me. If there really were ghosts, what will they do when the sun destroys the earth? Will they all become space ghosts? If this shit was real, it would be proven by science, but it's not. Not believing would be like not believing the world is round. Same with religions, but I won't go there, other than to say faith is the opposite of fact.
Dump the background music.
Volume audio is to low to hear sorry can't watch without good sound.
Mom to 10 year old Daughter:
"Next month honey, we're going to Wisconsin to see where Jeffrey Dahmer ate all those black guys!
Daughter: yay!
Is that really what you got from this? SMH all history is not warm and fuzzy. Btw - Most of Dahmer’s victims were not black
Lol too funny sorry.
Ask Lizzie if she killed everyone by using those sticks ! 😜
I'm pretty skeptical about the rods but I did try them and they seemed to move some when I wasn't consciously moving them. Still not a firm believer in the dousing rods however.
I believe Lizzie and Bridget were involved but the actual killings were carried out by a man. I get a very bad vibe from Bridget and John Morse but not Lizzie.
The dead can't hurt you. I'm sorry but most made up and the headaches...are they putting something in the vents? Just my opinion. Would love to go for the history tho
What a bag over the head punch in a gut I ever heard. Nothing but BS stories to keep the Tourist coming
Looks like Mr. Borden was a very small man.
I may be alone in this nowadays but I don't believe she did it I do however believe she was covering for someone she loved her sister or maybe an unacceptable love for Uncle John
As I've stated in other comments, I don't believe she did it either.. It would be hard for her not to be involved in some way, but I don't think she did the actual killing. Make sure to subscribe, as I will be returning to the house in May and will have a follow up video as I'm staying in the Bridgette Sullivan room where we felt the most presence before.
I think you are mistaken, but you are free to think as you like.
Maplecroft's still 'on hill.
The will proves Lizzie was involved.
Those rods have been proven to be hokey
I love sue’s accent
Sue is awesome. Both guides and everyone there are wonderful people
Dragon ball Z guy lends so much authority. Peace out.
So what face was above the air conditioner in the window? Who do they think it was Lizzie, Abby, Bridget?
As I recall, they said that they thought it was Abby.
@@ChuckWChapmanMusic Thanks. Definitely creepy. Too bad she can’t tell us who killed her
@Blushing Saikawa yes, but they theorized that she had faced her attacker at least for the 1st blow
What a bunch of weirdos! Bizarre.
I resemble that remark!
Why doesnt someone help these suffering spirits into the light?
I'd want my money back if she was my tour guide.
I would love to sleep overnight in the house
Omg I love history 💯 at school always on point A + and lizzy story the best my opinion she didn't murder her father and stepmother I think who murder them was one's of he's Tennant lizzy father the they before had argument with him and I think he never left the house he got away with murder and people blame lizzy yost because she didn't like her stepmother but lizzy was not guilty ,
The woman talking at the beginning 🙄 look I find the paranormal and history interesting but I wouldn’t say two people being hacked to death by an axe is a “cool” part of history. I always keep in mind that these were real people. This is not a movie and we have to have respect for the victims.
You have to remember that most people are not super comfortable in front of a camera, so I don't think the expression was meant to be disrespectful. I also think she was referencing the location more than the events
@@FOAMProductionsFilms The location is where the murders happened. This is a sad scary part of history.
That's how I feel about the Villisca murder house...I think the owners finally changed the sign out front. It was in such bad taste. I can't get enough Lizzie B, but the Villisca case is much worse.
@@jartober I think there’s a fine line between interest in history and the paranormal and respect and decency. I always consider how I would feel if my loved one was taken in such a tragic way and people were standing outside the house taking photos and treating it like it was Halloween fun. I wouldn’t want my self or a loved one to be disrespected like that.
it was "AMBER TURD"
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She is a little sociopath!
No Mike. Can hardly hear you.
Dr. Pepper and Sister Rochester.
How can someone bee soo happy about a murder that was soo bad they had no face and no neck grow some murder i am not happy that pple are soo happy to go there boo.
It's history. I think we all have a fascination with the dark side of human nature. It's no different than visiting a battlefield where hundreds or more died. Dark history is still history. We should always be able to learn something from it.
I watched again the Elizabeth Montgomery version which they used court transcripts in it- but do you think she was sexually and emotionally abused? If her dad took an axe to kill her pigeons - that would have been abusive to my mind...and the weird kissing and making her touch her dead mom? (was that what her flashback was?) ugh- the murders were too much from rage that maybe she had PTSD from abuse? I d K - your thoughts?
That movie was highly fictionalized. There has been speculation by some that LB was sexually and/or emotionally abused but little proof has been presented to back up those claims. IMO the murders would have taken far more physical strength than a society girl like Lizzie would have had. The killings were almost definitely perpetrated by a man, which is exactly why Lizzie was acquitted. Lizzie being involved in a conspiracy is likely however in my opinion and probably due to her jealousy and dislike of her stepmother and the usual culprit, money.
Frankly, the Elizabeth Montgomery version is a mess! Don't believe it's theories!
In looking at the photos of the two murder victims why don't you see a lot of blood around the victims. Abby had a white dress it doesn't show stains and Andrew appears to be laying on a white or light colored pillow that didn't have any stains. Even though the photos are black and white, wouldn't you expect being hit like that with an ax that a gross amount of blood would be all over the place?
A lot of people say blood would have splattered everywhere, but we can’t know that for sure. There was blood, but how much, we don’t know and I suggest it’s reasonable the murderer got away with these crimes because there wasn’t as much blood as we may think and was able to hide, clean, and destroy evidence.
I agree with the "abuse" theory. I've said so in comments in various videos.. Lizzie did it. As far as her not having blood all over her ....... all she had to do is deliver a death blow and then after that, when their dead and their hearts aren't beating any longer, she can wail on them to her hearts content, which she did, She dumped her emotional pain by striking them over and over. That's why she was quite calm after.
Appreciate your input. Can't say I agree, but love the discussion. Thanks for watching. I will be revisiting the house in a few weeks and doing a new video.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms Tell me why you don't agree.
@FOAM Productions I should have included this as well. I have all the books and have read all the theories. I don't think anyone else did it. It all points to lizzie. Not John Morse either.
@@Rottimail I don't see any real evidence of abuse. Lizzie and Emma still lived there voluntarily. As I've stated in other threads, I've seen the skulls. I don't believe a society girl like Lizzie could have exerted the kind of force and and energy to have created the damage caused. I feel it was almost certainly a man who did the actual killing. If LB had been a large farm girl used to doing heavy lifting and hard labor, maybe, but not the size and stature she was.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms If it was a man, as you believe, it would have been someone who Andrew hurt or injured on a personal and intimate level. That is how these overkill killings work. They now have years of evidence to this end. To bludgeon the elderly Bordens that many times is a crime of passion. The police element has years of these kinds of crimes under their belt and it always comes down to two things. The murderer is close to home and it was personal on an emotional level. What man could that have been? John Morse? No? There would have been nothing that Andrew could have done to John that was intimate and personal. William Borden? Same thing as John Morse. There is no evidence and wasn't at that period of time either. They didn't talk of sexual, abuse at that time. However in our modern world we have enough cases of abuse (sexual as well) to now understand that it probably was some type of abuse. Nothing else seems to be able to explain the rage that had to have been felt by the murderer.
They lied about the Ouija board being in the house before the Bordens. The patent for the Ouija board was awarded on February 10, 1891, making the Kennard Novelty Company’s version the oldest Ouija board in the world. That was just a year before the murders. The family was already in the house for 20 years. That one does look old, probably early 20th century, because the planchette doesn't have a hole to see through it, which started in 1910. The original ones from 1891 look similar, but are a little different. That one is clearly newer. They had spirit, or talking boards before that, but they did not have the word Ouija on them. The idea of using "talking boards" to communicate with spirits or ghosts is very ancient. Not surprised they would lie about it, since they lie out of their teeth about hauntings. They should know people can Google the history of things. I doubt it was stolen and returned. Sounds far fetched. The thief would probably just throw it away.
Appreciate your input and thanks for watching. I'm sure there are tons of "legends" and stories that are embellished or possibly just made up. I try to include the interesting ones.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms The Ouija board story is completely made up, and easy to prove because of the patent and the design. That one is definitely 20th century. If these "ghosts" were real, and answered questions with those rods, or the board, then why can't they just ask who the killer was? Abby was struck in the front of her head first, so she definitely saw who killed her. People like to believe this stuff and get themselves all worked up like children. Those pictures of stick figures are fake. They lie to attract interest to make money. That house is big business. I would like to stay there for the history, and this story is fascinating without the paranormal garbage. If I go, I will not take the Ghost tour. I couldn't stay respectful while being lied to. Here's a big question. Where will these ghosts go when the sun destroys the earth? Will they have to find another planet to haunt, or do they become space ghosts? Might as well believe in the tooth fairy as well.
No sir. I don't delete any comments (unless they're patently offensive) I'm not sure why your newest comment isn't showing up. I can see it but when I go to page it's not there. You're previous comment about the Ouija board is still visible best I can tell. I enjoy and encourage discussion and don't require anyone to agree with me.
@@FOAMProductionsFilms No doubt, but it did get removed somehow. I deleted the comment questioning what happened to the second comment. These comments weren't really about what we agree on, but what I can prove by the history of the Ouija board. My remarks on that are provable facts. Something couldn't be there that wasn't made yet. On ghosts, well feel free to believe what you want, but centuries of physics research have found nothing like this exists. If they did, they would literally be haunting everyone, everywhere. My house was built in 1888, and I knew 2 people that died here, personally, my father being one of them. I've known dozens of people, including 2 of my best friends that have died, and not one person has shown themselves to me as ghosts. When you believe something, your mind can play serious tricks on you. These people that run that house thrive on that. They know that many people are superstitious. Nobody that truly doesn't believe comes away from that house with a changed mind, and people fake stuff on RUclips for views. I would sit in that house all night by myself, and bet money that I wouldn't see anything. Like I said, believe what you want, believe what makes you happy. I have no faith in religions, or superstitions.
Of course she murdered the two people -:there isn't any mystery - if you truly believe she did not - your in the twilight zone 🙄 .
That's why a male jury-which did not favor women at this time- found her not guilty. She didn't do it. It was a close worker of Mr. Borden.
Guess I'm in the twilight zone 😂
@@NicoleVardy we can still get you out if you hurry - Chop Chop Nicole .
The uncle is a random-variable 'in her problem.
Alice was probabky beaten by Andrew. I think he was abusive in every way.
Ppl have been dying and have been murdered for hundreds of years in our cities and in our houses. This house is nothing special, just last week 5 family members were killed in their own house by an intruder
The Borden house is special for it's historical significance. I've been to many "murder houses". Some seem to retain energies while others don't. It's part of my fascination with such locations. That's horrible about that family. All murders are horrible but that doesn't stop them from being intriguing. What disconnect is there that allows one human being to intentionally kill another?
Lizzy do you know what this is?. No sir it looks like some kind of mechanical contraption. It's called a polygraph machine lizzy. What does it do? It helps to get to the truth. Should I be worried? We'll soon find out.
The psychics demons belong to her not the house
Great video! Very interesting and nice musical background. I also found the thing about superstition and money very interesting! unfortunately I didn't quite understand why people do this? I would be very happy if someone could explain it to me. Greetings from Germany!
People leave the money as a tribute to Mr. Borden, who most believe haunts the house. He had a reputation (justly or not) for being a miser.
I don't really understand why people leave money on tombstones. In Andrew Borden's case, it might be because they old miser would like that better than flowers, but I have seen it in other places. I never saw it until about 40 years ago. Maybe it is related to throwing pennies into fountains. I don't know why people do that either, but they sure do it a lot!
Omg I will love to go there 💯 I love everything that's is about spirit's exxxxx hunted my dream,
🖤this is for Andrew, he is truly black hearted in ways you can't imagine, my guide's showed me many things about Andrew Borden and also Abby,look the other way she did.abby came forward and told me,He was not at me.daugther's not pure.by some one's hand,oh ,oh finger it out,its not too hard.thats the problem