Absolutely love it 👍🏻 Happy days train spotting real trains are back even if only for rail tours lol 😆 What a lovely job at LSL have done restoring this set 👏🏻
@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Mostly 80s, push-pull finished in Scotland on Edinburgh-Glasgow & Glasgow-Aberdeen in April 1990, initially replaced by 156s.
I miss seeing those sets on the Glasgow - Edinburgh run. Sheer bliss listening to reverberations of 47s (& 37s) powering up the tunnel incline away from Queen Street station. 2 things I noticed from this video, 1) A 47 doesn't look quite right when missing its 3 piece mini snowplough. 2) I'm sure the 'cowcatcher' on the DBSO used to sit lower, although I could be wrong.
@@hexagon7895 I'll need to dig out my old photos and have a look, I'd swear that some of them did carry the snowplough, although I might be remembering Scotrail red.
@Tsurnari Scottish-based 47/4s, including unique ScotRail Blue Stripe liveried 47461 Charles Rennie Mackintosh did carry ploughs; often contravening the rule book by retaining the centre plough in summer...
awesome vid Phil, Wow that bought back some happy memories from the 70s /80s at Edinburgh whatching them coming & going all day long excellent many thanks for that Phil loved it stay safe a t b Syd 👍
It's great to see this. I'm from Canada but as a teenager I rode on the push-pull several times during the early 80's on family visits to Scotland. They seemed much more comfortable than some of the newer trains I've been on recently... I saw 47 712 at Haymarket shed several times but never managed to ride behind her.
Great stuff Phil. Looked absolutely stunning. Couldn’t make the station today was all abit of a rush as had other commitments. Made it to Christleton to get the second run. Shame we could of met eachother otherwise !!!!
Can someone give me more information as how the consist usually is? I did not expect the whole train to be just 5 carriages (including the DVT). I thought it would be longer
those coaches look like mark 3's, not mark 2's which is what they used back in the day. this might be because of the camera angle. correct me if im wrong.
Easily the most interesting formation to run in regular service in 'modern' times on the UK network in my opinion. Imagine being able to commute in a MK3 coach twice a day - you could only wish for that level of comfort these days! Not sure how that's progress but oh well....
Big respect to locomotive services at Crewe for recreating this set. It looks stunning. I didn’t know that 47712 still had its push pull equipment fitted. It was state of the art technology at the time, I know modern locomotives like the 67s and 68s can operate push pull out of the box , but to get an old 47 to do it took some work. I noticed that 712 has been fitted with UIC sockets on each end, they are more reliable than the RCH cables that were used originally with the DBSO.
You're getting old . . . . I used to drive the bloody things 😟 During the training remember one guy commenting that he wasn't sure if he liked driving a train from a cupboard in the Guard's van 😆
These trains set really fast times between Edinburgh and Glasgow of around 40 minutes or so and were sadly replaced by cramped two car and four car 158s which often had problems with the doors closing.
@@philclarke3203 hardly progress when you sat in the eight am train to queen street and it eventually left around 8:30 because the doors wouldn't close.
everything loco hauled got replaced by rubbish 🗑 electric operated tin can sprinters sadly all over the UK! then if it ❄ snows or we get leaves on the lines these bog units can't operate! a class 47 or any other loco hauled train wouldn't have these issues as I would rather travel in a mk1-2-3 propper coach than on a crap bog unit dmu/emu sprinter or any other modern foreign rubbish that dominates the uk's failing railway networks in the 2020s 😎
@@justinobrien3593 well having used the class 385 8 car EMU set from Haymarket to Glasgow last month. I couldn't fault them. Acceleration was lively and the ride was very good. The seats were comfortable and spacious and there were plenty of them. There are trains every 15 minutes too and they are proving very popular. The only downside is the front end looks hellish. As for the 158s a lot now work on rural lines such as trains around Fife and north to and from Inverness with better seats. You can often see a 158 set coupled to a 170 turbo star where a longer train is needed. Scotrail inherited some HST sets and none travel south or east of Edinburgh as I would love to see them tackle the Border Railway which is proving a big challenge for the 170s on that route.
@@ronaldweir712 What problems are the class 170 units having on the Borders line? I've only been that way a couple of times, when 158 sets were in use.
Hi Phil. I'll be attending Model Rail Scotland this Saturday, with my camcorder, to film the show, and it's the same weekend 47712 does her inaugural railtour in push pull mode. I'll mention this in the intro, at the show, but was wondering, is it OK for me to use a little bit of your footage as well in my video from Model Rail Scotland, to give more depth to what I'll be saying? Thanks in advance!
The MkIII carriage seats are a damn sight more comfortable than what has replaced them. Are carriage seats now designed to be deliberately uncomfortable?
Welcome 🤗 back to the old trains 🚆 are with ScotRail. Don’t they look 👀 fantastic. Perhaps 🤔 they are slam door 🚪 trains 🚂. Back over a century time ago there were slam door 🚪 trains 🚊 in 1923. Today’s date is Saturday 11th February 2023 has decent trains 🚆 with electric ⚡️ doors 🚪 🚪. Scotland 🏴 is above ☝️ England 🏴. I’ve been to Scotland 🏴 in 1995 and 2006. 🙂
Scotrail Trains React to Class 47 Scotrail’s Return: Scotrail Commuter Train Siblings Reacting to This Video: OMG! It’s Our Granddad! He came Back! Mam! Granddad came Back and He’s in Chester! Class 43 HST Scotrail Reacting to This Video: Lemme See! *Gasp* It’s really Him! Your Dad would be really Proud to See Your Granddaddy!
Not really a fan of Push-Pull trains apparence this formations resemble a multiple unit when on push running rather than the classic train we all know loco first, so i believe LSL likewise on Intercity formations might strugle to attract enthusiasts when and if put this Scotrail formation on tours as it happened with intercity formation. Working Extras services purposes like for Avanti West Coast throughout Her Majesty's funeral week last year for instance, would be very useful, specially on non-electrified lines as a class 47 matching its livery would be permanently allocated to provide traction i guess.Thank you for sharing the video.
Thanks, my pleasure. I know what you mean,about preferring loco hauled trains. The first tour on 24th February was quickly fully booked, not sure of any future tours yet. Last year's Inter city, trips to help Avanti, was for publicity, and to show they could do it, as much as anything
Not highland cattle involved, but one of these sets was derailed at high speed by cattle that had strayed on the line at Polmont in the mid 1980s. Sadly caused significant loss of life.
Absolutely love it 👍🏻 Happy days train spotting real trains are back even if only for rail tours lol 😆 What a lovely job at LSL have done restoring this set 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks. They certainly are. 😀👍
Crewe Diesel Preservation Group own and did the resto of 47712, LSL lease it off them.
Oh that is BEAUTIFUL! Never thought we'd see the likes again!
Nice one Phil. LSL are the gift that keeps on giving. 😃
Thanks Callum. What will be thier next recreation?😀👍
How nice to see quality rolling stock.
Couldn't agree more! 👍
Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
My pleasure, and you. 😀👍
It’s the first since the 90s when the 47 and the coaches with scotrail livery working the shuttle to and from Aberdeen to Glasgow
not quite there yet only crewe to chester.
@@damiendye6623 well back in the 90s they did
@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Mostly 80s, push-pull finished in Scotland on Edinburgh-Glasgow & Glasgow-Aberdeen in April 1990, initially replaced by 156s.
Long while ago?
@@philclarke3203 yeah
Interesting footage. Those guys at LSL certainly know how to wield a paintbrush!
Thanks. They certainly do 👍😀
Great sights and sounds from Chester 🌟 Handsome Set 👌
Thanks David 👍
Great video
I miss seeing those sets on the Glasgow - Edinburgh run. Sheer bliss listening to reverberations of 47s (& 37s) powering up the tunnel incline away from Queen Street station.
2 things I noticed from this video, 1) A 47 doesn't look quite right when missing its 3 piece mini snowplough. 2) I'm sure the 'cowcatcher' on the DBSO used to sit lower, although I could be wrong.
None of the 47/7s carried snowploughs, so 47712 is prototypically correct.
@@hexagon7895 I'll need to dig out my old photos and have a look, I'd swear that some of them did carry the snowplough, although I might be remembering Scotrail red.
Interesting! But what great memories! 👍😀
@Tsurnari Scottish-based 47/4s, including unique ScotRail Blue Stripe liveried 47461 Charles Rennie Mackintosh did carry ploughs; often contravening the rule book by retaining the centre plough in summer...
I saw 47712 at Crewe on the way home from the Battle of Nantwich last month. I guess Crewe really is a fine place for sick engines!
awesome vid Phil, Wow that bought back some happy memories from the 70s /80s at Edinburgh whatching them coming & going all day long excellent many thanks for that Phil loved it stay safe a t b Syd 👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks syd, and you too 👍😀
Amazing what they can do these days. Looks great.Thanks Phil.
Indeed it is. Thanks Tim 👍
It's great to see this. I'm from Canada but as a teenager I rode on the push-pull several times during the early 80's on family visits to Scotland. They seemed much more comfortable than some of the newer trains I've been on recently... I saw 47 712 at Haymarket shed several times but never managed to ride behind her.
Thanks Ian. Great memories. Many new trains here are not designed for comfort 👍
Great to see Lady Di in action. 🚂👍
Definitely 👍😀
Absolutely enjoyed every minute of this Phil A proper working and what an amazing LSL had done to this set
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks, and indeed they have 😀👍
Nice! When a loco and stock livery just looks “right”. Well done LSL!
Definitely. Thanks Darren 👍
Looking great.... My friend and I travelled to Edinburgh from Lincoln in the early 80s to bash the 47/7 for a day...Great memories
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks 👍
Nice Scotrail liveried duff and stock plus driving car/dvt you cannot mistake the sound of that sulzer engine! Nice video 🤩🥰😍
Thanks Justin 👍😀
Ah so many memories. I loved the Scotrail push pull sets, used them fro Glasgow to Edinburgh before the introduction of the class 156 and then 158s.
Brilliant stuff
Thanks. Ken 👍
Great video and a great addition by L.S.L. looks very nice.
Thanks Rick 👍
Another great catch Phil, great looking livery, Steve . 👍🎥
Thanks Steve. I'm sure you'll see it, when it comes your way?👍
Great catch!! That is surely going to be a crowd puller. You will need to find some really obscure spots to film. Fantastic restoration job.
Thanks Robert. There will be some crowded platforms in Scotland 👍😀
Beautiful.
Thanks Mike
One of the best every liverys for a loco/coaching stock kudos to LSL
I agree! 👍
excellent shots 👍
Thanks. Barry 👍
When I was a kid we got a train like this to Edinburgh and it stopped at Falkirk.
Superb
Thanks James
Fantastic to see the return of this train , I remember when I travelled to Edinburgh to spot the 47/7s
Certainly is. Great memories! 👍
Love seeing these, remember then going in and out of Waverley station doing the Edinburgh/Glasgow run.
Thanks. Great memories
They never looked like this! Apart from when they were new of course.
FANTASTIC
Thanks Keith 👍
Fantastic video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Barrie 👍😀
I remember seeing them back in the day
Great stuff Phil. Looked absolutely stunning.
Couldn’t make the station today was all abit of a rush as had other commitments. Made it to Christleton to get the second run.
Shame we could of met eachother otherwise !!!!
Thanks Arthur. I was expecting to see you there, but at least you saw it. Hopefully see you soon 👍😀
Spoooon!
Yeeees 👍
Very nice indeed. Lsl have done a fine job there . 👍👍
Thanks Ian. Certainly have 😀👍
Another test run Phil, but its good to see.
Certainly is Mike. Plenty test runs round here 😀
It looks fantastic
Indeed 👍😀
Looking smart in that livery.👌
I think so too David 👍😀
Wow ScotRails new livery looking great
Yes, WOW! 👍
Can someone give me more information as how the consist usually is? I did not expect the whole train to be just 5 carriages (including the DVT). I thought it would be longer
Amazing ❤🚂❤
It is! Thanks 👍😀
Waverley to Queen Street every 30 minutes. Fantastic.
Great service
Nice video. With a spot of make-up these old girls can still look good.
Thanks, they can and do 👍😀
i was on 710 .... from edin to glasgow then to aberdeen and back to edin ... this was a service in the late 80s
Great stuff 👍😀
Very nice 👍👍👍
Thanks Craig 👍😀
Looks a lot smarter than the Inter7city units that ScotRail have at the moment.
those coaches look like mark 3's, not mark 2's which is what they used back in the day. this might be because of the camera angle. correct me if im wrong.
Easily the most interesting formation to run in regular service in 'modern' times on the UK network in my opinion.
Imagine being able to commute in a MK3 coach twice a day - you could only wish for that level of comfort these days! Not sure how that's progress but oh well....
Completely agree.
Comfort in today's modern trains is certainly not progress!
Big respect to locomotive services at Crewe for recreating this set. It looks stunning. I didn’t know that 47712 still had its push pull equipment fitted. It was state of the art technology at the time, I know modern locomotives like the 67s and 68s can operate push pull out of the box , but to get an old 47 to do it took some work. I noticed that 712 has been fitted with UIC sockets on each end, they are more reliable than the RCH cables that were used originally with the DBSO.
It does not have the old FDM fitted. Uses Blue star. Coaches are not even ex-scotrail ones.
Oof. Yes please. That looks spot on.
Definitely 👍
I never thought I'd see the day, when we would have a proper Scotrail Express, push pull, back on the mainline! Fantastic effort!
Like many people, no doubt 😀
@philclarke3203 By coincidence, I have 47712 on my layout, but in parcels red livery. I also have the DBSO 9707,but 47708 is the train locomotive.
It certainly is! Anything seems possible with LSL?
@@ClydebridgeStation very nice! I have 47705 in Scot Rail livery, sound fitted.
Blimey, I remember these being delivered newly converted...I'm getting old!!!😳😳😳
Haha, I can't answer that 😬😀
You're getting old . . . . I used to drive the bloody things 😟 During the training remember one guy commenting that he wasn't sure if he liked driving a train from a cupboard in the Guard's van 😆
@@marshallman7608 Try a 153 then!!!!🤣🤣🤣
These trains set really fast times between Edinburgh and Glasgow of around 40 minutes or so and were sadly replaced by cramped two car and four car 158s which often had problems with the doors closing.
Another ' good ' example of progress 🙄.
@@philclarke3203 hardly progress when you sat in the eight am train to queen street and it eventually left around 8:30 because the doors wouldn't close.
everything loco hauled got replaced by rubbish 🗑 electric operated tin can sprinters sadly all over the UK! then if it ❄ snows or we get leaves on the lines these bog units can't operate! a class 47 or any other loco hauled train wouldn't have these issues as I would rather travel in a mk1-2-3 propper coach than on a crap bog unit dmu/emu sprinter or any other modern foreign rubbish that dominates the uk's failing railway networks in the 2020s 😎
@@justinobrien3593 well having used the class 385 8 car EMU set from Haymarket to Glasgow last month. I couldn't fault them. Acceleration was lively and the ride was very good. The seats were comfortable and spacious and there were plenty of them. There are trains every 15 minutes too and they are proving very popular. The only downside is the front end looks hellish. As for the 158s a lot now work on rural lines such as trains around Fife and north to and from Inverness with better seats. You can often see a 158 set coupled to a 170 turbo star where a longer train is needed. Scotrail inherited some HST sets and none travel south or east of Edinburgh as I would love to see them tackle the Border Railway which is proving a big challenge for the 170s on that route.
@@ronaldweir712
What problems are the class 170 units having on the Borders line?
I've only been that way a couple of times, when 158 sets were in use.
Hi Phil. I'll be attending Model Rail Scotland this Saturday, with my camcorder, to film the show, and it's the same weekend 47712 does her inaugural railtour in push pull mode. I'll mention this in the intro, at the show, but was wondering, is it OK for me to use a little bit of your footage as well in my video from Model Rail Scotland, to give more depth to what I'll be saying? Thanks in advance!
Yes,that will be ok. 👍
@philclarke3203 thanks, and I'll make sure I put on the footage I use, that it came from you
@@ClydebridgeStation thanks . I'll look out for your video of the show. Wouldn't have minded going, but it's a long way for me.
The MkIII carriage seats are a damn sight more comfortable than what has replaced them. Are carriage seats now designed to be deliberately uncomfortable?
Exactly! I'm sure they must be . 😬👍
That looks fabulous. Perhaps the ScotRail franchise should look at copying this for their current units.
It does look great 👍
Or hire it for the Fortwilliam or Far North lines ?
Memories of travelling to Glasgow and Edinburgh from Falkirk High
Hope they were good ones 👍
Bit shiny!😎
Very 👍😀
What was the purpose of the test run ? .
I truly miss the whine of those mk3's
It was noticeable 😀
Looks good but a real Push/Pull set would be a pair of 27's and early MK2's
Welcome 🤗 back to the old trains 🚆 are with ScotRail. Don’t they look 👀 fantastic. Perhaps 🤔 they are slam door 🚪 trains 🚂. Back over a century time ago there were slam door 🚪 trains 🚊 in 1923. Today’s date is Saturday 11th February 2023 has decent trains 🚆 with electric ⚡️ doors 🚪 🚪. Scotland 🏴 is above ☝️ England 🏴. I’ve been to Scotland 🏴 in 1995 and 2006. 🙂
Scotrail Trains React to Class 47 Scotrail’s Return:
Scotrail Commuter Train Siblings Reacting to This Video: OMG! It’s Our Granddad! He came Back! Mam! Granddad came Back and He’s in Chester!
Class 43 HST Scotrail Reacting to This Video: Lemme See! *Gasp* It’s really Him! Your Dad would be really Proud to See Your Granddaddy!
Not really a fan of Push-Pull trains apparence this formations resemble a multiple unit when on push running rather than the classic train we all know loco first, so i believe LSL likewise on Intercity formations might strugle to attract enthusiasts when and if put this Scotrail formation on tours as it happened with intercity formation. Working Extras services purposes like for Avanti West Coast throughout Her Majesty's funeral week last year for instance, would be very useful, specially on non-electrified lines as a class 47 matching its livery would be permanently allocated to provide traction i guess.Thank you for sharing the video.
Thanks, my pleasure. I know what you mean,about preferring loco hauled trains. The first tour on 24th February was quickly fully booked, not sure of any future tours yet. Last year's Inter city, trips to help Avanti, was for publicity, and to show they could do it, as much as anything
Oh my god, I’ve got a semi 🤤
Glad you enjoyed it 😀👍
let's hope it doesn't come across a highland cow....
Not highland cattle involved, but one of these sets was derailed at high speed by cattle that had strayed on the line at Polmont in the mid 1980s. Sadly caused significant loss of life.
Definitely, as in the comment below 😢
@@Aidankiwi a sad day 😢
@@Aidankiwi whoosh !
Is it just me or is that Scotrail logo squint?
Not sure about that
Why?
Why not?
@@philclarke3203 Why not ? Make a good spot hire !! Only problem is RA , traction and route knowledge !!