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Hello, new subscriber here and a relatively noob holdem player as well. Have been watching the Texas streams and recognize some of the players. I dont play anywhere near those stakes, but man that A2 is hard to fold in that spot, just so hard to lay down trips regardless lol. You must have had a soul read on 'Big Daddy Chaz', from the times I have seen him on stream he appears to be for lack of better term extremely unpredictable with plays, i'm surprised you called with that J 10 lol. You have a lot of great content keep them coming.
Thanks for the sub! Yep agreed hard to fold postflop but I only played the hand due to the Nit game. That Nit button cost me my entire stack lol. As for JT it's more so range awareness than a soul read 🙂 glad you enjoy the content so far!
You have a really good thought process and logic behind your decisions Brandon, great vlog. I also liked how you admit your preflop mistake on the A2o hand. A lot of big losses occur because of getting involved with marginal hands preflop that should be folds. On the JTdd that’s a tough one. I think preflop you can either flat call or 3bet to a larger size. Chaz likes to play the bully and with your small size it almost invited a light 4bet. If I 3bet I’m pretty much always going 4x the initial size plus 1 unit per limper in these loose Texas games. On the flop I can go either way and tend towards folding since you’re always behind and occasionally could be dominated by a hand like AT or AJ.
Thanks glad you enjoy the thought process! Yea without the nitgame being in play I snap fold, I still should of though lol As for JT my sizing pre is fine, vs a 125 open I do not need to 3B to 500 imo, thats 16/17% of my stack. Sizing of 3B IP should never invite a player to 4bet light unless sizing is just waaaay off. Yea in Texas people go crazy pre but the sizing isn't the reason IMO. Hope this makes sense and appreciate the comment!
Hey Brandon I enjoyed our back-and-forth last week just a quick question can you fold the ten Jack against his pot size bet there I mean he could possibly have a pair higher than your cards I know you didn't feel he did but if he does which it is possible you're drawing to just four outs.. about 16pct eqty.. thoughts
Hey! Well I figured he would never bet pot with Aces and Kings as I said in the video. Maybe queens, and I block pocket Tens and jacks (only 3 combos left of each) He has more combos of AK AQ (and apparently KQ because that's what he jammed) and I have played with him a couple of times so I like the call. The % chance of him showing up with 2 overs like he did are greater than him just having an over pair. In real time I actually tanked for 2 to 3 mins to make this analysis before calling. So in conclusion I love the call 🙂🙂 I just didn't get there lol
Don’t mean to be rude but why flat J10s to a 4 bet at that stack depth? Is it because the guy is a maniac? You are getting almost pot committed by flatting here to the point that you are calling all in with 2 overs and a gutshot, and you only have 35% equity to his bluffs (maybe slightly higher to his Ax 4 bet bluffs but still should be similar to 35%), and he’s never behind? Like his bluffs are still ahead of you, and his value part of his jam (QQ KK AA (AA likely not a jam Tbf)) has you crushed (8 outs total). Dunno man just seems like a shitty spot and seems unnecessary to get stacks in with J10s on a below average board (gutshot 2 overs against a 4 bet just isn’t great). if you plan on flatting 4 bets with J10s I’d be a lot deeper so that you can actually maneuver post-flop situations instead of sigh calling 2 overs and a gutshot to a 4 bet. Again, hate to be that guy as YT commenters are usually ridiculous and results oriented, but 3 bet bluffing and then cold calling 4 bets to then hope he’s bluffing for 35% equity has to be a losing play long term. Again I hate I’d just consider preflop or increasing stack depth if possible. Let me know what you see differently would love to hear it.
Well iv played against them before so decided to call. I was fully aware of stack depths, I just happened to not be deeper and we do see he wakes up with KQo here. As I explained, I was fully aware of where I was in the hand and was not crushed and was correct. I like my call pre and love the call on the flop as well. I did say i hated my 3B pre, i woulf of loved to see a flat instead this time around. This was definitely a player dependent call pre and size dependent on the flop kind of play. Most hands don't have me crushed here when the pot size jam happens. This is not a normal spot I would always defend. And definitely no harm in the comment as I love seeing them 🙂
@@BrandonSligh yeah i don’t see the jam being balanced correctly either. Maybe somehow a suited Ax 4BB hits a pair and jams for protection but the jam is very unnatural as some people loveeee to trap overpairs and will check to let you bluff or bet less polar. However, KQo is still a bluff 4 bet as we agree… I’m not remotely a nitty player post but I think you compounded your mistakes by calling the 4 bet. You rarely have any equity realization post with outs being muddled with overpairs and better 10x and Jx, and even if he’s a maniac, your stack depth hinders you from making this a profitable call. Not blaming you for not being unbelievably deep (not like you were super short), but (imo) post flop playability and stack depth should factor into your decision to call instead of it being a primarily player based decision. Even if he’s a maniac and you likely have the immediate odds to call, you’re leaving yourself somewhere between a .8-.9 STP with a hand that’s best multi-way and deep. If Chaz is the maniac you imply (and from the clips I’ve seen I don’t disagree), it may be best to let your 3 bet semibluffs go to his cold 4 bets because you are hoping to gamble with a player you are ultimately attempting to exploit. He’s essentially reversed the script on you. Getting players to call 4 bets pre for a significant portion of their stack with suited connectors hoping their opponent is bluffing is real profitable for him. Sounds corny but I’ve definitely been here. He’s a maniac! Well… if so, let’s be aggro post, get deep, and have him loose preflop and punish him post 🤷♂️ again lmk what ur thoughts are, I am by no means a poker endboss but just what I’ve found through studying and trial and error
@burneraccount6130 he can play a bit wild at times and has when I'm at the table but could be a coincidence. I didn't make the call solely based on it being him tho, and I was fully aware of the stack depth being 1 to 1 before calling. Trust me I took all of this into consideration plus other factors at the table not mentioned I have way worse hands I can call pre with so I'm fine with it and also coo with calling the all in. I'm even proud I dissected everything and found the call to be where I was. I don't think he flipped the script on me at all to be honest with it just being one hand. I knew what i was getting into when i called lol. The only way I see this as being a pure punt is if I defended JTss OOP imo. So yea all is good 🙂 Now the pure punt of the session was the A2o hand, now that was horrendous lol
@@BrandonSligh what’s so funny is I actually think that’s less of a punt 😭. I think c betting a board you’d be likely stabbing with significant portions of your range is smart with a smaller sizing, cool. This could be 9s-kings still, or Kx Qx + a spade or no spade if you think he might fold pairs below 8s. Check calling the turn to allow his spades and floats with Kxs Qxs, cool. Remove the floats from your range, looking at maybe K8 as the bottom? Or pocket pairs above 8s up to kings and spades (memory is a bit faded as I type this on turn sizing but seems stacking trips would likely make a call fine with future implied odds). Check calling the river when you now have a few chops with A4-A7 and a capable bluffer supposedly isn’t the worst thing in the world. You still have 9s-kings as played, those can fold out, and considering you need to be correct 30% of the time (probably more towards a quarter assuming he still shoves trips you chop with). If he’s underbluffing this line heavily then fair enough, exploitatively fold, but I don’t think you are necessarily punting by calling. Sucks because 3 bet bluffing and hitting clear value that still loses to his top of range sucks, but against competent/semi-balanced/willing bluffing opponents it happens sometimes. If he’s a guy who will never bluff 2 streets, definitely would be punting by calling as it’s never not a value bet and you don’t beat value. But you can have more hands here than I think you might be giving credit for, only you can determine if he’s bluffing enough here 😁🤷♂️ apologies for the essay I enjoy talking about hands when I’m not grinding myself lol, always looking to understand people’s perspective of the game.
@burneraccount6130 np with the long comments they are fine lol they are good ones Well it's a punt because A2o is never a 3bet, not even in this nit game scenario. I 3bet trying to save paying the $700 just to lose almost 5x as much. How I played post flop is fine, it's the preflop that caused the punt in my eyes
Wait, you read him for just 2 overs and yet you still called off with a worse hand for your entire stack without getting the correct odds?!? No disrespect because I definitely do it too but I’m a terrible losing player. 😂
Hmmmm vs a pot sized bet against two overs I had 36% equity so I actually had odds to call 🙂🙂 not sure the math you did for it but be sure to double check it
@@BrandonSligh justify it all you want….poker isn’t dead and those guys will fill up the seats at your table if you keep playing like this. Trust me I know it all too well. 😂
@mattstone9364 well I'm not trying to justify it, the math does that by itself so I just follow it. I would love if seats fill up at my table to play me, sounds fantastic lol
@@BrandonSligh I’m just saying, you only knew you had the correct equity after the fact. Chaz is a good player so he’s gonna be somewhat balanced here. I would imagine most of the time you put your money in here against him you will just be dead or nearly dead. Again, equity or not, you don’t even beat his bluffs (which is evidenced by his exact hand). This is a losing play long term. You can do it all you want but to act like you made the correct play after the fact because you happened to be up against one of his few bluffs is insane to me.
I think you need to let the old school poker mindset go man. The A 2 hand was a bit light on the 3bet, but after that in an aggrressive game against aggressive opponents you can NEVER fold with the SPR. The idea of "oh i shoulda never been in that hand" is old man coffee shit. Every decision is a new decision. If you make a mistake pre-flop it doesnt automatically compound. If opponenet has pocket JJs or a bluff all of a sudden your play is great. I hate the "i gotta play by the book" poker mentality. The book was wrote 20 years ago when people had 0 poker knowledge and you could win tons of money by playing super tight ranges and never bluffs. The J 10 call was bad. At BEST you got 35%, you need 33%. So against his entire range of hands you probably have 23-28%. Assuming chaz wouldnt shove his pocket pairs on a 1:1 pot to SPR is wishful thinking. You got a lot of room to improve. Playing in this high stakes games you can't afford to make mistakes like these
Mistakes preflop do not automatically compound but they do add up if one continues to make them. Even if I won the hand I would of still called it a mistake, I don't just say nice play because I win JTss hand I'm fine with and would do it again if the opportunity presented itself
@@BrandonSligh I mean what im saying is a questionable preflop decision didnt cost you 3k. You just got coolered in an aggressive line up. Sometimes your questionable plays will make you a ton of money, poker isnt a "do the right thing and get rewarded" type of game as im sure you know. ive read all your analysis on the J 10 hand and I understand your read, BUT the equity dont add up. You're TRYING to get it in with 35-36% when you need 33%. 2k to win a 6k pot. So unless you can literally see the cards its not a great call. The issue is not only does his value hands have you crushed, but his bluffs contain a lot of equity. Even his small pocket pairs have you in bad shape. I understand your read, but the math dont add up. Now if you were getting better odds I'd be more down with the read/call.
@failingatlife9812 I still believe its an unnecessary spot to be in to get rid of the NIT button. I should never be in this spot is the main issue. I didn't get coolered, it was a horrific 3B decision imo Chaz will have certain hands with said line and not as many of these hands that are crushing me as you believe, so yea still like the call even with the explanation you provided
@@BrandonSligh thats not how poker works but okay. If you have AA and opponent 4bets 2 7, you call. Flop is 2 2 7, are you going to say "oh I should always jam, I made a bad play." Like yes I 100% agree A 2 isnt a great 3bet, BUT in an aggressive line up you can sometimes 3bet and 4bet super wide. I mean when you flop trips on a dry board against maniacs what can ya do. Sometimes taking the aggressive route IS the correct play. what hands is chaz 4bet bluffing with that J 10 is doing good against on a 9 7 3 flop? I mean sure chaz is aggressive but seriously dude? What hands? Are you thinking he is just 4betting any 2 OOP? Its like you're not understanding even against all his bluffs you barely have odds to call. And he is going to have value sometimes... you cant just assume he is ALWAYS bluffing.
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Hello, new subscriber here and a relatively noob holdem player as well. Have been watching the Texas streams and recognize some of the players. I dont play anywhere near those stakes, but man that A2 is hard to fold in that spot, just so hard to lay down trips regardless lol. You must have had a soul read on 'Big Daddy Chaz', from the times I have seen him on stream he appears to be for lack of better term extremely unpredictable with plays, i'm surprised you called with that J 10 lol. You have a lot of great content keep them coming.
Thanks for the sub!
Yep agreed hard to fold postflop but I only played the hand due to the Nit game. That Nit button cost me my entire stack lol.
As for JT it's more so range awareness than a soul read 🙂 glad you enjoy the content so far!
You have a really good thought process and logic behind your decisions Brandon, great vlog.
I also liked how you admit your preflop mistake on the A2o hand. A lot of big losses occur because of getting involved with marginal hands preflop that should be folds.
On the JTdd that’s a tough one. I think preflop you can either flat call or 3bet to a larger size. Chaz likes to play the bully and with your small size it almost invited a light 4bet. If I 3bet I’m pretty much always going 4x the initial size plus 1 unit per limper in these loose Texas games. On the flop I can go either way and tend towards folding since you’re always behind and occasionally could be dominated by a hand like AT or AJ.
Thanks glad you enjoy the thought process!
Yea without the nitgame being in play I snap fold, I still should of though lol
As for JT my sizing pre is fine, vs a 125 open I do not need to 3B to 500 imo, thats 16/17% of my stack. Sizing of 3B IP should never invite a player to 4bet light unless sizing is just waaaay off. Yea in Texas people go crazy pre but the sizing isn't the reason IMO. Hope this makes sense and appreciate the comment!
Quality stuff! Happy to find your channel.
Thanks glad you like the content!
turning into one of my favorite vloggers. Love the analysis and thought process you provide.
Thanks I appreciate this comment a lot!! Glad you are loving the analysis each hand, ill do my best to continue doing this
At The Lodge, can I say how Sweet this is, I'm jealous I would love to play there with you Brandon!
Fun place to play at! Might get to play when I'm there in the future
Hey Brandon I enjoyed our back-and-forth last week just a quick question can you fold the ten Jack against his pot size bet there I mean he could possibly have a pair higher than your cards I know you didn't feel he did but if he does which it is possible you're drawing to just four outs.. about 16pct eqty.. thoughts
Hey!
Well I figured he would never bet pot with Aces and Kings as I said in the video. Maybe queens, and I block pocket Tens and jacks (only 3 combos left of each)
He has more combos of AK AQ (and apparently KQ because that's what he jammed) and I have played with him a couple of times so I like the call. The % chance of him showing up with 2 overs like he did are greater than him just having an over pair.
In real time I actually tanked for 2 to 3 mins to make this analysis before calling. So in conclusion I love the call 🙂🙂 I just didn't get there lol
A2 not suited fold J10 facing a jam should of been easy fold but what do I know lol
The nit game makes you do crazy things sometimes lol
Peace bro. Great content as always.
Thanks for watching!
Don’t mean to be rude but why flat J10s to a 4 bet at that stack depth? Is it because the guy is a maniac? You are getting almost pot committed by flatting here to the point that you are calling all in with 2 overs and a gutshot, and you only have 35% equity to his bluffs (maybe slightly higher to his Ax 4 bet bluffs but still should be similar to 35%), and he’s never behind? Like his bluffs are still ahead of you, and his value part of his jam (QQ KK AA (AA likely not a jam Tbf)) has you crushed (8 outs total). Dunno man just seems like a shitty spot and seems unnecessary to get stacks in with J10s on a below average board (gutshot 2 overs against a 4 bet just isn’t great). if you plan on flatting 4 bets with J10s I’d be a lot deeper so that you can actually maneuver post-flop situations instead of sigh calling 2 overs and a gutshot to a 4 bet. Again, hate to be that guy as YT commenters are usually ridiculous and results oriented, but 3 bet bluffing and then cold calling 4 bets to then hope he’s bluffing for 35% equity has to be a losing play long term. Again I hate I’d just consider preflop or increasing stack depth if possible. Let me know what you see differently would love to hear it.
Well iv played against them before so decided to call. I was fully aware of stack depths, I just happened to not be deeper and we do see he wakes up with KQo here.
As I explained, I was fully aware of where I was in the hand and was not crushed and was correct. I like my call pre and love the call on the flop as well. I did say i hated my 3B pre, i woulf of loved to see a flat instead this time around. This was definitely a player dependent call pre and size dependent on the flop kind of play. Most hands don't have me crushed here when the pot size jam happens.
This is not a normal spot I would always defend. And definitely no harm in the comment as I love seeing them 🙂
@@BrandonSligh yeah i don’t see the jam being balanced correctly either. Maybe somehow a suited Ax 4BB hits a pair and jams for protection but the jam is very unnatural as some people loveeee to trap overpairs and will check to let you bluff or bet less polar. However, KQo is still a bluff 4 bet as we agree… I’m not remotely a nitty player post but I think you compounded your mistakes by calling the 4 bet. You rarely have any equity realization post with outs being muddled with overpairs and better 10x and Jx, and even if he’s a maniac, your stack depth hinders you from making this a profitable call. Not blaming you for not being unbelievably deep (not like you were super short), but (imo) post flop playability and stack depth should factor into your decision to call instead of it being a primarily player based decision. Even if he’s a maniac and you likely have the immediate odds to call, you’re leaving yourself somewhere between a .8-.9 STP with a hand that’s best multi-way and deep. If Chaz is the maniac you imply (and from the clips I’ve seen I don’t disagree), it may be best to let your 3 bet semibluffs go to his cold 4 bets because you are hoping to gamble with a player you are ultimately attempting to exploit. He’s essentially reversed the script on you. Getting players to call 4 bets pre for a significant portion of their stack with suited connectors hoping their opponent is bluffing is real profitable for him. Sounds corny but I’ve definitely been here. He’s a maniac! Well… if so, let’s be aggro post, get deep, and have him loose preflop and punish him post 🤷♂️ again lmk what ur thoughts are, I am by no means a poker endboss but just what I’ve found through studying and trial and error
@burneraccount6130 he can play a bit wild at times and has when I'm at the table but could be a coincidence. I didn't make the call solely based on it being him tho, and I was fully aware of the stack depth being 1 to 1 before calling. Trust me I took all of this into consideration plus other factors at the table not mentioned
I have way worse hands I can call pre with so I'm fine with it and also coo with calling the all in. I'm even proud I dissected everything and found the call to be where I was.
I don't think he flipped the script on me at all to be honest with it just being one hand. I knew what i was getting into when i called lol. The only way I see this as being a pure punt is if I defended JTss OOP imo. So yea all is good 🙂
Now the pure punt of the session was the A2o hand, now that was horrendous lol
@@BrandonSligh what’s so funny is I actually think that’s less of a punt 😭. I think c betting a board you’d be likely stabbing with significant portions of your range is smart with a smaller sizing, cool. This could be 9s-kings still, or Kx Qx + a spade or no spade if you think he might fold pairs below 8s. Check calling the turn to allow his spades and floats with Kxs Qxs, cool. Remove the floats from your range, looking at maybe K8 as the bottom? Or pocket pairs above 8s up to kings and spades (memory is a bit faded as I type this on turn sizing but seems stacking trips would likely make a call fine with future implied odds). Check calling the river when you now have a few chops with A4-A7 and a capable bluffer supposedly isn’t the worst thing in the world. You still have 9s-kings as played, those can fold out, and considering you need to be correct 30% of the time (probably more towards a quarter assuming he still shoves trips you chop with). If he’s underbluffing this line heavily then fair enough, exploitatively fold, but I don’t think you are necessarily punting by calling. Sucks because 3 bet bluffing and hitting clear value that still loses to his top of range sucks, but against competent/semi-balanced/willing bluffing opponents it happens sometimes. If he’s a guy who will never bluff 2 streets, definitely would be punting by calling as it’s never not a value bet and you don’t beat value. But you can have more hands here than I think you might be giving credit for, only you can determine if he’s bluffing enough here 😁🤷♂️ apologies for the essay I enjoy talking about hands when I’m not grinding myself lol, always looking to understand people’s perspective of the game.
@burneraccount6130 np with the long comments they are fine lol they are good ones
Well it's a punt because A2o is never a 3bet, not even in this nit game scenario. I 3bet trying to save paying the $700 just to lose almost 5x as much.
How I played post flop is fine, it's the preflop that caused the punt in my eyes
Big daddy bluffing with king high and gets paid without improving. Lol. Juicy fish love losing pots
That’s why you don’t play A2o 😂
I blame the nit game lol but still overall my own fault
Wait, you read him for just 2 overs and yet you still called off with a worse hand for your entire stack without getting the correct odds?!? No disrespect because I definitely do it too but I’m a terrible losing player. 😂
Hmmmm vs a pot sized bet against two overs I had 36% equity so I actually had odds to call 🙂🙂 not sure the math you did for it but be sure to double check it
@@BrandonSligh justify it all you want….poker isn’t dead and those guys will fill up the seats at your table if you keep playing like this. Trust me I know it all too well. 😂
@mattstone9364 well I'm not trying to justify it, the math does that by itself so I just follow it.
I would love if seats fill up at my table to play me, sounds fantastic lol
@@BrandonSligh I’m just saying, you only knew you had the correct equity after the fact. Chaz is a good player so he’s gonna be somewhat balanced here. I would imagine most of the time you put your money in here against him you will just be dead or nearly dead. Again, equity or not, you don’t even beat his bluffs (which is evidenced by his exact hand). This is a losing play long term. You can do it all you want but to act like you made the correct play after the fact because you happened to be up against one of his few bluffs is insane to me.
@mattstone9364 not a losing play dependent on certain factors. But We can agree to disagree 🙂 🙂
You didn’t get unlucky. Just bad plays
Coo
I think you need to let the old school poker mindset go man. The A 2 hand was a bit light on the 3bet, but after that in an aggrressive game against aggressive opponents you can NEVER fold with the SPR. The idea of "oh i shoulda never been in that hand" is old man coffee shit. Every decision is a new decision. If you make a mistake pre-flop it doesnt automatically compound. If opponenet has pocket JJs or a bluff all of a sudden your play is great. I hate the "i gotta play by the book" poker mentality. The book was wrote 20 years ago when people had 0 poker knowledge and you could win tons of money by playing super tight ranges and never bluffs. The J 10 call was bad. At BEST you got 35%, you need 33%. So against his entire range of hands you probably have 23-28%. Assuming chaz wouldnt shove his pocket pairs on a 1:1 pot to SPR is wishful thinking. You got a lot of room to improve. Playing in this high stakes games you can't afford to make mistakes like these
Mistakes preflop do not automatically compound but they do add up if one continues to make them. Even if I won the hand I would of still called it a mistake, I don't just say nice play because I win
JTss hand I'm fine with and would do it again if the opportunity presented itself
@@BrandonSligh I mean what im saying is a questionable preflop decision didnt cost you 3k. You just got coolered in an aggressive line up. Sometimes your questionable plays will make you a ton of money, poker isnt a "do the right thing and get rewarded" type of game as im sure you know.
ive read all your analysis on the J 10 hand and I understand your read, BUT the equity dont add up. You're TRYING to get it in with 35-36% when you need 33%. 2k to win a 6k pot. So unless you can literally see the cards its not a great call. The issue is not only does his value hands have you crushed, but his bluffs contain a lot of equity. Even his small pocket pairs have you in bad shape. I understand your read, but the math dont add up. Now if you were getting better odds I'd be more down with the read/call.
@failingatlife9812 I still believe its an unnecessary spot to be in to get rid of the NIT button. I should never be in this spot is the main issue. I didn't get coolered, it was a horrific 3B decision
imo Chaz will have certain hands with said line and not as many of these hands that are crushing me as you believe, so yea still like the call even with the explanation you provided
@@BrandonSligh thats not how poker works but okay. If you have AA and opponent 4bets 2 7, you call. Flop is 2 2 7, are you going to say "oh I should always jam, I made a bad play." Like yes I 100% agree A 2 isnt a great 3bet, BUT in an aggressive line up you can sometimes 3bet and 4bet super wide. I mean when you flop trips on a dry board against maniacs what can ya do. Sometimes taking the aggressive route IS the correct play.
what hands is chaz 4bet bluffing with that J 10 is doing good against on a 9 7 3 flop? I mean sure chaz is aggressive but seriously dude? What hands? Are you thinking he is just 4betting any 2 OOP? Its like you're not understanding even against all his bluffs you barely have odds to call. And he is going to have value sometimes... you cant just assume he is ALWAYS bluffing.
@failingatlife9812 the Aces analogy is no where close to the same as the A2 spot lol
Not assuming he's always bluffing