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You Bet Your Life #57-12 Raffles, The Reluctant Mynah Bird (Secret word 'Chair', Nov 28, 1957)
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2013
- The highlight of this show is the very funny bit with the uncooperative mynah bird, Raffles, starting around 13:00.
When Groucho mentions a "Gonzalez Gonzalez" at 9:53, he's referring to one of the all time great YBYL contestants, Pedro Gonzalez Gonzalez.
COUPLE #1: Constance Watt / Pat DeLeon
COUPLE #2: Zetta Wells, who brings her trained (but uncooperative) mynah bird along / Arthur Morales, pastry chef
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Episode identification and basic description based on "Tell 'em Groucho Sent You", © 1997 by Mark Petty. Used by permission.
Wonderful show and wonderful guests. Simply brilliant
that bird was amazing! It mightn't have performed on cue every time but what it did do was amazing, and I think a bit underappreciated!
Yes. I've watched a couple videos on mynah birds here on the Tube. Simply, utterly, amazing birds, generally regarded as the best mimics in the world.
if groucho would have kept his mouth shut long enough the bird could be heard......but i think he didnt want to be played down by a bird...lol@@henrybrowne7248
Love this Groucho. What a genius!
All great comedians really love people and just having a great time with them! You can tell this was like a little kid at playtime for Groucho!
Besides being really funny , Groucho could never hide his love of people! You are one of the greats and you are loved and missed some 50 years after your passing!
Absolutely right.
It's really a treat to see these shows.This political and world situation with tiny babies being tortured.I put this play list on,go full screen and just watch them back to back and go back to a simpler time in life.
Good move. I do the same. Blessings
I was a kid when he played on tv
Now I appreciate him. Lol
Exactly where are babies being tortured?
@@CD-db1zo 🤣
That was my uncle "Pat" Pasquale. The show was rehearsed before it went live. Pat cracked jokes & got laughs during rehearsal which Groucho didn't appreciate. Groucho met hm in the bathroom & said they came to see me not you. When they went live Pat was respectful but still got his quips in. They brought Pat back a second time over Groucho's objection because they said he was good for ratings. He came to visit me on Long Island when he was 80 we went into NYC & he still had strangers laughing! A family treasure to us RIP uncle "Pat".
+Joseph Marchionda I don't doubt that this is how the story was related to you by your uncle, and I hope that you won't get offended when I point this out, but the story isn't at all possible. YBYL was never a live show, and it was never pre-rehearsed. There WAS a great deal of preparation done before the shows-- there were actually writers who provided scripted material for Groucho to fall back on. But Groucho made a special point of never meeting the contestants before the show. He felt it killed the spontaneity of the interviews. I'd also add that one of Groucho's strengths on YBYL was that he was always content to let the contestants take center stage and get the laughs if the audience was responding, unlike his generally aggressive persona when he was on anyone **else's** programs. :)
Last thing is, there's no record of your uncle appearing on the show again according to the producer's own episode notes.
But again, I hope you don't take offense-- I'm always delighted to get comments from relatives of contestants. I just think your uncle was pretty definitely mistaken in his memory about the show.
Maybe I can reconcile the two versions: could be that the "rehearsal" was actually the interview with the staff writers, who may have noted Pat trying too hard to be funny, and they may have told him so. The rest fits with my own uncle's guiding principle: "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story."
Bigfoot Mangiacavallo ... " never let the truth stand in the way of a good story" I like that a whole lot as long as after the story is told you remember that the truth is more important then a lingering lie, which is why the phrase "just kidding" became so popular.
I have seen lots of people on other programs on here who claim a contestant is related to them 😂 Where's the proof??
Melissa Ann well I'm one person that's not related to any contestants
i bet fenneman was thinking the entire time during the first set of contestants "please dont let him remember my middle name is watt"
The thing about Groucho, he was on the level, it was a game period. Bigger prizes later after being the voice of DESOTO too, he breezed through the FIXED QUIZ SHOW episode not missing a broadcast.
Yes he did miss the lobbyist question which I couldn't understand -I'm guessing at split moments notice a lot of people miss easy questions under the pressure. Maybe I'm wrong but it's still fun to watch. You Bet Your Life was a very prestigious show at the time and Uncle Pat treated Groucho with respect. Thanks to all who responded.
I'm not sure "lobbyists" were as well known in the 1950's.
Having watched dozens of episodes now, I notice there are some really sharp individuals that seem better read and more worldly than most these days but that the average person is much less ... cosmopolitan? No offense to your uncle at all though - different times.
Arturo morales sounds like slow poke rodriguez cousin of speedy Gonzalez from looney tunes
"Boy, how he changed once he heard about the $50.00!!" 🤣
He one of a kind spontaneous comic genius
From what I understand Pedro went on to become an actor in Hollywood after he was spotted on this show. Thanks for uploading.
You're welcome, and thank you for your comments. I always appreciate them!
A mynah was obviously the wrong bird for YBYL. Everyone knows that toucan play on this show. :-)
Lois Simmons [wink]
The bird tried playing baseball, but could never advance beyond the mynah leagues.
I know this bird!!! my grandparents had 2..Raffles has a film somewhere.O cool she has him with her!!
“They shot but not at anyone in particular.” (Mexican revolution)
It would have been funny if Raffles had said the word "chair".
just can't help myself in this case... "Constance Watt? Not on her watt on her vessel..." slight transliteration of the line from The Coconuts =^~=
I was five years old at this time..
I adore Groucho Marx there is NO ONE LUKE HIM NO ONE !
Yes, I Luke him too.
thank God...one is enough
There may have been miscommunication at the end. I think Mr Morales may have meant let's go for the bonus and Zetta took it as let's leave. Historians please investigate and post conclusions. Thanks
I thought the same thing.
Here is the resolution of the discrepancy once and for all!
#57-05 10-24-1957 (secret word street - CORRECT AS IS)
#57-06 10-31-1957 (not here in this collection or in my own)
#57-07 11-07-1957 (not here in this collection or in my own)
#57-08 11-14-1957 (not here in this collection or in my own)
#57-09 11-21-1957 (not here in this collection or in my own)
#57-10 11-28-1957 (secret word chair - with the myna bird)
#57-11 12-05-1957 (secret word room - first episode of the rock and roll debate)
#57-12 12-12-1957 (secret word grass - 2nd ep of the rock and roll debate)
#57-13 12-19-1957 (from the shout! factory dvd)
#57-14 12-26-1957 (secret word water - CORRECT AS IS)
From my guess, the Shout! Factory people used the very same log for their DVD sets you did for your uploads and couldn't resolve the discrepancy either. The log here is just numbered wrong. Plain and simple. The error in the log could be explained as simply as they forgot to get a release form signed (even back then you had to sign a waiver for your likeness to be used on TV) and had to hold the episode a couple weeks. Just a supposition. But yes, the log here MUST be wrong because what I've posted is the ONLY way this can be resolved WITHOUT renumbering the entire season!
The log is slightly disordered here because this isn't an issue of incorrect air dates, it is an issue of mistaken numbering. The air dates are all correct. Standard season numbering is based on air dates NOT production numbers (they just normally coincide in the production of a weekly, non-dramatic broadcast). The log is based on production numbers NOT air dates. These were filmed out of order in this one case.
Dates AND numbering this way checks out with all the other episodes in the season!
I'm 99.999% sure this is the correct order now, and anything other than this requires changing info on the whole season. The log is so accurate otherwise, it is just an issue of production vs airing.
Also, #57-10, for example, is a standard production number still sometimes used in this format even today (a current season production number would be written something like #A14-32 [filmed 32nd in preparation for the 2014-2015 season]).
Seasonal numbering to show that, though, is based upon air dates. So technically, #57-10 should be written as 0810 (Season 8 Episode 10). Production numbers can and do drift from seasonal numbers (South Park is a good, more recent example of this). Once again, not nitpicking this point just giving as much info as I can to show you how I managed to unravel this Gordian knot.
Production numbers were originally invented to internally refer to reels of footage in editing. Normally, they are ignored once a season begins broadcast. Seasonal numbering is also known as broadcast history or chronological progression.
The preempted episode might only have ever made it on the radio as well. If so, there will always be an episode that aired and was never seen on TV due to the preempt...
"We now take you back to your regularly scheduled program ALREADY IN PROGRESS...."
spent all night on fixing this =^.~= you are welcome everyone
FF11Freshstep I so wish I had the time to really wrap my head around this right now, since you're obviously taking this very seriously and putting a great deal of time and effort into it. But I just can't.right now-- I will keep a copy of your notes and refer back to them when I do have a window, though. And thank you for the care you're putting into reviewing the material.
You guys need to go to the end of the broadcast. It seems instead this episode aired in September 1954:
The Desoto ad at the end is for a '54 Plymouth, and at the 23:15 mark, George the announcer says that "September is child safety month."
Perhaps the network aired a repeat during the last week of November, but but it seems evident the original air date is way out of sync with the rest. =)
Assuming the date is correct, I suspect the actual episode number is 57-08 or Season 8, Episode 8. I have a partial Library of Congress log which contains the same info that you've attached to this video, but I've found a few errors in the log. I'm afraid this may be another one. I haven't viewed the show, yet. Perhaps, whenever I do, it will provide a clue.
Well, we've talked about this earlier with respect to a different show-- the info on all these shows comes from a very reliable log based on Bernie Smith's own program notes. I can't vouch that all the info is 100% correct, but I have no basis for questioning the info in this instance and it is an accurate reflection of what's in the log. Remember that there were minor variations in program numbers and air dates, and the order of broadcasts for radio and TV was sometimes different.
What is confusing to me is that (according to the log) Episode 57-12 falls chronologically prior to Episodes 57-09, 57-10, and 57-11. Also confusing to me is that 57-10 is only two weeks prior to 57-14. I'm not saying that I think you've made a mistake - I just have a problem understanding the chronology of it all.
Jimmie Dee I'm with you, I don't get the chronology either. And I appreciate corrections, I'm never bothered by people pointing out errors. It just happens to be the case here that if there's an error, it's in the log, not an error I introduced.
All of us are assholes more less, and plants are fascinating to botanists. What that means to anybody I'll never know..
6:00 to 9:10
Lobbyist to Revaluation
How did they miss the "lobbyist" question? Lobbyists got mentioned during the pre-game interview. TV jitters, maybe?
I suspect this shows history. Lobbyists weren't anywhere NEAR the potent force in society then, that they are today [August 2023].
Zetta Wells had her own TV show during the very first days of television...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographically_Speaking
Why do groucho’s guests from Scotland never have a Scottish accent at all?
V East"
if groucho would have shut his mouth long enough to let people hear the bird...it would have been a better show...most of the time groucho was a ego pig and tried to steal the whole show...I watched for the contestants and really hated it when he wouldnt let anyone talk.....
Yes he did miss the lobbyist question which I couldn't understand -I'm guessing at split moments notice a lot of people miss easy questions under the pressure. Maybe I'm wrong but it's still fun to watch. You Bet Your Life was a very prestigious show at the time and Uncle Pat treated Groucho with respect. Thanks to all who responded.
Yes he did miss the lobbyist question which I couldn't understand -I'm guessing at split moments notice a lot of people miss easy questions under the pressure. Maybe I'm wrong but it's still fun to watch. You Bet Your Life was a very prestigious show at the time and Uncle Pat treated Groucho with respect. Thanks to all who responded.
Yes he did miss the lobbyist question which I couldn't understand -I'm guessing at split moments notice a lot of people miss easy questions under the pressure. Maybe I'm wrong but it's still fun to watch. You Bet Your Life was a very prestigious show at the time and Uncle Pat treated Groucho with respect. Thanks to all who responded.
Those were innocent times! Nobody in the general public knew about lobbyists until much, much later. That's why the question could be asked as a quiz. Furthermore, the laws were much stricter about what lobbyists could and could not do to win votes, not like the legal bribery with no holds barred we see today.
I have a copy of the radio version, complete, and at the 6:10 mark, Pat's response, which was edited out here is "...It's not Congress..."