My father the " elder" and " "presiding overseer", is dying of Lou Gherigs disease. After years of shunning me, not knowing my daughter or wife. My sister says he has regrets now, however thats on him. Ive already forgiven him in my heart. But i found God and Jesus upon leaving the Organization.
It’s so sad to hear how destructive this cult is. Separates you from your family and takes away all of the fun and joy out of life and separates you from the true God and eternity with him. Really a religion created by Satan himself.
I am happy for you & sad for your Dad...ALS is a horrible disease...And it seems in the JW org , all value is about striving for Gods approval...I pray Jesus knocks on the door of his heart..And he finds his way home back to the Father that created him...
For all of those who are going through this, just stay strong. I’m a former Elder and I would say this has been the most freeing experience of my life. I promise it gets better and you will find ways to cope and grow from this situation.
Hi Sir. I'am born and raised by JW parent in the Philippines. I'am unbaptized JW. I distant my self from JW for 23 years. My question is do you still believed in Jehovah God. Up until now, I pray to Him but I never attended JW meetings after I enrolled and got my University degree.
@@kingjehuiiradaza8095 Although this is addressed to J. T. I would like to give my reply. Prayer is a personal thing or choice. Calling this God Jehovah is a personal thing. What ever your conscience allows you to fo according to your knowledge should be fine. Your personal relationship should depend on you and your purity of heart.
Eu fui nascida e criada como zelosa jw. Pioneira, esposa de ancião. Deixei em 2012 aos 40 anos quando descobri a verdade sobre o sangue. A nossa filha de 5 meses necessitou de cirurgia ao coração e aí foi a chamada para acordar. Neste momento o meu pai está nesta situação...
My Elder dad died a year ago and had shunned me for 40+ years when I left the org. At every milestone in my life I reached out to him (grad college, 1st big job, promotions, relocations, marriage….) only to have him ignore me. I even called him when I heard he had terminal cancer - but he wouldn’t pick up the phone so I left a VM telling him I loved him. A few days later his wife called me to tell me she just watched him breath “his last breath”. I didn’t say much until she asked if I had any pictures of me that she could use at his zoom funeral. Really…he didn’t have any pictures of me? Not even one? Nope! I simply responded “well that’s the Love that Never Fails!” And told her I respectfully decline her Zoom funeral invite.
This story really hit home. As a person who also faded, I’ve always felt that ex-JWs need support groups. Coming out of the “truth” alone and without your family is hard because there is no one to teach Birdy how to fly in the world once they leave the organization.
Hi 👋 I’m RiadaChillada of Vancouver Washington and I am a survivor of the JW cult and shunning procedures /// Truth be told I didn’t “fall out” swear on my grave I was Called out 🗣 sheltered in that cave 🪨 I just CrAWLEd out ❤ really wasn’t Praising 🙌 I was all “HALL’d” out ⛪️ really wasn’t Lovin I was “lawed” out -- didn’t feel so Godly so I GOT out. 🎉
I had a similar experience. My father is still alive, but he was in critical condition a little over a decade ago. He was so sick that you had to wear a hazmat suit to be in the ICU. He called me and said how he wish things were different, and he would have done things differently. How he loved me and wish he knew my son better. Then he recovered and it was as if the conversation never happened. I dont want to act as if death bed confessions are meaningless. I believe he meant it at the time, but it showed me something that i wish I hadn't learnt. Ultimately, how you live is most important, because nomatter what you say at the end, even if you really mean it, its too late.
Dear Vusi Mngomezulu, I was beginning to miss you but here you are again. I am tickled indeed. Please keep reading the testimonies of ALL Watchtower victims posted here as well as other Exjw channels. If you perservere I am convinced that you will be convicted to GET OUT OF HER, my Brother.
Being a born in JW I was 22 when I Disassociate from the WT organization I was Shunned by my Siblings but not my parents . My Dad passed away with no JW’s around . My JW’s siblings wasn’t taking care of our Mom at 89 she decided to live with me we’ve had conversations about WT organization she realized and regretted how our family was destroyed . I can relate to Gail her experience of being Shunned WT indoctrination and Brainwashing runs deep . I’m 67 having NO regrets from leaving and I’m so happy to have my Mom back in my life.
Big hugs for loving your mum🤗👏. And well dine your mum and dad for never letting you go either. Sounds like your siblings are more to be pitied than scolded.
Same I’m 22 it will be a year next month! I’m sorry you had to go through that :( I’m still learning rn. Some days are good some are bad, but I don’t wanna go back.
@@brett703 Glad you’re out at 22 a lot of Good years ahead for you…I’ve made my way in life without my JW family for 45 years I wasn’t expecting my JW Mom to want to live with me by my example of just being my true self and doing the best for my family …eventually blessings and rewards will come …Be strong and Enjoy your Freedom 👍🏼😊👍🏼
👍💥👍💥👍💥👍💥👍 What a spark this lady is. This interview was so on point ! ! Thank You ! My parents too were extremely fanatical. It was sheer misery and humiliation growing up a JW kid. Like her, I (and my siblings) were never allowed to go over to other kids homes from the Kingdom Hall or have any of them over our house either. Once when I was around 7-8 years old, I invited little Billy, my best budd from the Kingdom Hall, to come over to play after the Sunday morning meeting. My parents were shocked when Billy and his dad knocked on the door and to put on pretenses they allowed them in. But once little Billy and his dad were gone, I got a beating and severe scolding. It’s sad too to see all the JW old timers, who like my parents, just KNEW they weren’t going to die, that they were going to walk into paradise; now to have seen them all pass away. Oh so many stories …
@@annabizaro-doo-dah I can answer that. They were probably in a lower spiritual caste. My father was a nonbeliever. Therefore, we were in a lower spiritual caste. The people in the higher caste did not hang out with us. Only other JWs in the same lower caste. Ignored by JWs and the worldly.
@@annabizaro-doo-dah : Hi 👋. My parents never vocalized a reason to us, but I can explain. My parents were FANATICAL about the religion. My dad was a hard core elder and my step-mom was paranoid about everything. No one was good enough and the other JW kids were considered to be a bad influence and poor association because their parents would allow them to do normal things like, watch tv, or have classmates as friends, or hang out at the park rec center, or maybe even play sports, etc. Essentially my sisters and I grew up in a cult within a cult.
This a powerful story! I am an Ex-Jw been homeless ever since 19 years old I stopped talking to my family because all we would do is get into arguments.. So this death bed experience makes me think.... I could go on and on...
Any religion that has you shun your own flesh and blood, you need to run far, far away from. Sad story, but one that is sadly repeated in this cult. Thanks for sharing.
Gail, I appreciate you coming on the program and telling what happened with your dad. You really told the details clearly and I could easily imagine everything. The cold, military-like parents who loved precision more than closeness in the family. And the elder dad getting hit by a freight train of emotion as the immensity of his loss landed on his heart like ocean breakers. Missing out on precious baby grandchildren would be a nightmare. Like the famous saying goes, he chose poorly. As an elder he would have to know the entire bunch of nonsense that constitutes the WT, but just had to hold on for the pleasure of wielding control over the lesser mortals who were not elders. The JWs are a special kind of hypocrite.
If the wife dragged the family into the wt cult because of her narcisistic proud personality, then she'd want the prestige that being the wife of an elder would provide her. If he should 'turn his ,back on their 'joho' what would she look like? The prestige that she worked for would disappear and she'd be a nobody. There is no way that her personality type could allow her to be caste down to a spiritually low position like that. The wt, caste system, I know and as I've seen others experience/express is 😢real and it's psychological warfare by wt used on the jw to keep their income rolling in. A wonderfully crazy spiritual paradise! So sorry for so much pain caused by the shunning. Cognitive dissonance is very painful too.
Not going to lie JT and Lady c, This was a tough one to get through I had to pause every 8 minutes or so to let the rage in me subside. every time I think I have heard it all an interview like this comes around and just blows me away.
This exemplifies why, as soon as someone realizes this organization is not the truth, they need to start building relationships outside of it. It is heartbreaking to hear the stories of those that have not done this and when stripped of their relationships within the organization they are overwhelmed by loneliness. It is not enough to prepare financially. You must also prepare for the emotional aspects of leaving. This story is a glowing example of putting that into action. Thank you for bringing this interview to us! ❤️🌻❤️🌻❤️🌻
Wow, what a powerful story. If that doesn't make a JW really analyze their beliefs then nothing will.I'm so glad there was reconciliation. On another note, I talked about this several times. Years ago, around 2011 or so, a JW uncle of mine was dying of lung cancer. He had 3 children, (my cousins) 2 of which left the organization. When he was on his deathbed at the last moment they went to see him at the hospital for the last time. He only admitted his oldest son (the active Witness) to the room to say goodbye to. He refused to see his other two kids, and he died never having said he was sorry, or telling them he loved them. He also denied them a last chance to tell him they loved him. He died convinced that he was faithful to Jehovah and in the blink of an eye would awake in paradise. I should mention too that my uncle was a tremendous a-hole to everyone, totally anti-social, and abusive to his family. Some people never wake up from the indoctrination.
😮Thank you guys for this story. My younger daughter left JW in her early 20s. I almost went with the JW script..thankfully i didn't. My sons in law are very good to me and i am enjoying my grand children and very close relationship with my daughters. You guys are just amazing. That's a story that many of us can relate to. More power to you Gail.
I can feel your pain. My dad is an elder by the book. Since my parents are elderly and sickly, no one helps but us the outcast kids. My mother is suffering from depression but she will not get help. This organization is a cult.
Powerful story. Thank you! Born & raised JW, left a few years after my JW mom passed. My brother is still in. His daughter got out and we talk often. Luckily he doesn't shun us, but we don't talk about religion. My niece said she thinks he's still in because he wants to see mom in the new system. I want so desperately to tell him he will see her again, we both will and it has nothing to do with bowing down to the borg.
I have former friends that are going through a similar situation. It's baffling how some women can be much more cruel and unbending, in their narcissistic ways, than their Elder counterparts.
I've noticed that being a Jdubb is for people who are weak-minded that need to FEEL elitist. They feel so good to shun ones disfellowshipped and ones who fade. They where it like a badge of honor! I've had it happen to me in public by an older "sister" that knew me in my youth. It was like she needed to "make sure" that I and everyone in the fruit market know that she was shunning me! I flipped it really quickly! I said, you dirty, filthy Jehovah's Witnesses! You so feel the need to SHUN me, publicly!! Everyone in that area of the market laughed and started saying mean things to and about her...HA....it ain't no fun when the beauty has the gun!!
Spot on! A lot of "personality disorders" in WT culture. Jealousy and hypocrisy and envy. A lot of "regular Joe's" in life and having unqualified responsibility in the KH. Personality disorders that lead to "spiritual abuse" over individuals inadequate lot in life. Especially if given KH "privilege's.
@Daniel-wd4jg Your comment is the elephant in the room of JWS! Once I backed away and noticed the sheer stupidity of the structure of this cult, it was painful. Shunning people in 10 seconds flat because a joker on a stage has told the congregation them to. Great point!!!
@@Daniel-wd4jg I made this same comment about the rate of personality disorders in this organisation it far exceeds the general population and religious entities. It attracts them as well as the CSA. Sad but true.
Thank you for this.... This is almost a mirror image of my own daughter and her family... I hope she will watch this... I also can't believe her father told her that Beth Sarim didn't exist when the society's publications clearly include the story and history of Rutherford having this built for the faithful men who were at that time soon to be resurrected... When they didn't return as Rutherford said that they would Rutherford himself lived in the mansion...
This lady is the same age as me,but I didn't leave until my early 30s, shunned for 28 years, so many that I knew who believed that they wouldn't have to face death in this system now have died including my own father, my mother on the other hand died knowing it was all fake but just keep quiet to keep the peace in the family, very sad
I totally can relate to this great testimony! I have 3 grown children now and my father is a elder and have nothing to do with them and now I have a 7 month old and I was just telling my wife the other day he too will grow up and will never grow up to know his grandfather bcuz of the big lies he can’t wake up from.
Jesus foretold a narrow gate which was for the cramped path..which few are on..but leads to life. A gate which is narrow..is narrow going in through it as well as for those leaving
@@Cuffsmaster Someone made the point that the Catholic Church has also been guilty of poor performance in regards to the handling of cases of sexual abuse and molestatation of children .. And for some time we as witnesses looked down our noses at them..but its been said ,on a pro rata basis the problem is worse among Jehovahs Witnesses . Now that's quite disappointing.. isnt it.. Put a pin in that for a moment.. Strictly from a Scriptural perspective however, the instructions or scene that's painted by ezekiel as to the place where Gods people dwell reveals a strange set up. A place without walls gates or doors.. What can that mean ? None of the normal measures for security..others have in place are seen there.. Where GODS PEOPLE DWELL.. . What's the result of such a ridiculous scenario ? Ta dahh ! Precisely the situation we now have.. No wonder that the numbers pro rata work out worse with Jehovahs Witnesses as opposed to Catholicism.
@@compositioncompilation I see the Jehovah's Witnesses as just a wild off-spring of an already screwed up religious system based on Christianity founded around the Catholic and later protestant faiths. If you start with buIIshlt then when you add to it you are still founded on b/s.
Her dad has been holding all that in for all those years that’s why he was balling like that on his death bed. He knows the religion is not right, but it is so ingrained in his being that he does not even know how to begin to let go of it. Which is why it was so easy for her mom to convince him that easily. It’s so so sad. I left the organization over 20 years ago, got married and had a baby. My son is 10 and my mom ( who is JW) is involved in his life, but it’s on MY terms. She loves my son so much that she doesn’t want him out of her life. So I tell her I don’t want him to have anything to do with that organization when he is around you or else. I’ve taken him out of her life before( because of blatant disregard of boundaries) and I will do it again if I have to. I run the show and her or that organization do not run me. End of story.
Amen to your stance sis, when i wld take my son around my JW family i was paying close attention daring any of them to try to push that crap on my baby, but my son, 23 now, already knew what they were about but he was always respectful to them but I'm so glad that nobody took it their because they wldve probably thought i was satan himself had they tried it
As sad as this is, it speaks volumes of ex Jehovah’s witnesses and apostates, that they are readily willing and eager to forgive the disgusting way they’ve been treated, simply for leaving this organization.
Thank you for your painful sharing. This is powerful testimony to the damage of an organization's mind control. These men and women would never do this if they followed the way of Christ, united with him and under his Light, in peace. May our Lord bless you.
My JW father in law also an Elder was crying in pain of cancer at the last moment to his JW wife, telling her “I want to die”. Imagine JWs who were having Good Hope, preaching to others about LIFE but at the end of deathbed, screaming with pain and saying that sorrowful words in the end. Too sad😢It wasn’t what we always was watching in convention videos as if JW brothers and sisters can die in peace, saying Jehovah thankyou.
@@ginnahcrews8694Here in my country the citizens can choose how they want their dead ones to be buried. It was his WILL to be in ashes and be thrown away as garbage, no need to be in a grave. And the JW family agreed since they believe in resurrection and especially doesn’t need to think about the dead ones, no need of memorial days for them. No need to take flowers too. I was waking up from JW and the Bible, so was very shocked of how these people can be so insensitive toward the dead😢
I am the same age as this lady and was baptized when I was 12 but had a very different life. I did not wake up till I was almost 60. I had a very different relationship with my dad. I cannot imagine what she went through!😞. My condolences
Im living out this same situation. Ive been out of the religion for 30 years and my relationship with my parents will never be right. Thank you for sharing your story.
My dad was the same way. A witness for almost 50 years. Put the organization before his family and non witness wife. When he realized he was very very ill, very fast, i think he realized all his JW family was no where. No visits at the hospital, however his wife and non witness family were all there. He actually asked my mom what she thought of my non witness husband, because i think he realized she would need help and my hubby and i would be there every step of the way. She said my hubby is her second son. I dont know if he had any epiphany about the religion, but i guess he questioned his thought about who was there for him and who wasnt.
My mother passed away on July 25th. I faded away back in the 90's. My mother was 85 and she wholeheartedly believed she would never grow old or die. She needed me to care for her. She fought so hard everyday to wake up "in paradise." As I held my mother's hand, when she took her last breath, her hand moved and her eyes opened. I don't know if there's a heaven or just death, but in my heart I hope her soul finds peace. 😭💔🕊️
Thank you for this channel. This is a sad situation. My father was a witness and on his death bed I read John 14:6 to him, where Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the life and no man comes unto the Father but by me. He told me that he couldn't do it that way and there was nothing else I could say.
Also the Elders will visit to convince the dying person to sign all his property over to the Watchtower which I seen multiple times. In matter of fact I was with an Elder who had a study and owned his house free and clear, his children were pot smokers so the Elder used that as why he should sign his house over even though the man was not baptised! He died within the next 2 weeks! And Watchtower now owned that house not leaving the children with one red cent!
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry for your loss. As a person who also faded (and labeled by some as an apostate), I am usually "soft shunned" but have noticed that as my parent gets older, there is more of a desire for me to be a part of their life regardless of my official status in the org. My parent made the choice to keep me in their life (albeit at a distance sometimes) regardless of the official stance of the org.
Just talked to my dad who is an elder in his local congregation, he defended disfellowshipping until he was blue in the face. They don’t get it until it’s too late.
“They were never going to have a deathbed”. “Armageddon is not going to save them from a deathbed experience”. It never occurred to me that they behave like that because they believe they are not going to experience it. With the Mother it was a sunken cost fallacy. If you wake up and realise it’s all for nothing at that stage………
Great video and content as always! Before seeing this video I had just went through my phone and deleted family numbers who are shunning me. I refuse to allow them to send me on a emotional roller coaster when one of them dies.
I’m 34 years old, grew up in the organization, been serving as an elder for 8 years, and been PIMO for 5 years. It wasn’t until just 2 years ago that I finally realized - despite being awake already - that if the religion wasn’t true, that also meant that eternal life wasn’t real. I had never once thought thought about my mortality throughout my life, and then it hit me like a bucket of freezing cold water. I went into a deep depression and would break down crying every day BEGGING for me not to die and cease to exist one day. I have since recovered from that stage, but not a day goes by now that I don’t contemplate the eventual end of my life. Sometimes makes me kinda wish I never woke up.
Just because the Witnesses are false doesn't mean that you can't have eternal life. Find the truth through reading the Gospel without the lies of the Watchtower. Jesus shed his blood so we could have eternal life. Seek the real truth. Pray to be led to what is true. I was also a Jehovah's Witness.
Thank you Gail for sharing your story. It's a sad realization for your father, but I'm glad that you're resilient‼️ Thank you JT and Lady Cee...Excellent interview. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you for the video - I was told I would never see death and that was 50 years ago when I was 10 and I sat next to an old man that was told that when he was 10.
I got baptized when I was 16 and disfellowshiped at 17 I totally relate I hurt everyday I'm 49 now and the pain seems to never go away I have a large family but I'm shunned everyday of my life. I feel helpless most of the time please keep me in your prayers. I watch your videos and they encourage me a lot but loneliness is terrible. Keep up the great work guys love y'all ❤
So sad. Do not fall away from Christ when "SHUNNED" John 16:1-5 “I have told you these things so that you won’t abandon your faith. For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God. This is because they have never known the Father or me. Yes, I’m telling you these things now, so that when they happen, you will remember my warning. Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary" Our Lord Jesus, by giving his disciples notice of trouble, designed that the terror might not be a surprise to them. It is possible for those who are real enemies to God's service, to pretend zeal for it. This does not lessen the sin of the persecutors; villanies will never be changed by putting the name of God to them. As Jesus in his sufferings, so his followers in theirs, should look to the fulfilling of Scripture.
Great interview!! Many hugs to her & her family! My story is a complete conundrum. My dads side of the family was enormous. My mom was an only child, but had a big cousin side out of state. Not a single person in the family was a jw. When I became one, many of my dads side stopped talking to me & stopped inviting me to all the gatherings & reunions. It was basically ‘ worldly’ shunning. After a while I was df’ed & of course got shunned by all. Long complicated story that involved 4 congregations in total. After over a year I got reinstated. After a while I faded out & it’s been over 25 years now. Still defended them until I started learning the real scoop on the org. So I got shunned by “the world” and by the organization. People are people weather in or out. There’s hypocrisy, corruption & gaslighting in all areas of life, in or out. You just have to find your tribe, keep your circle tight & live life to the fullest. Do what makes YOU happy & deprogram from all the bull💩. You have to be your own bestie and take care of yourself. There is so much beauty amidst all the ugliness. But you have to break free from control & what others expect you to be. Mold yourself & show yourself the love you never had. Go have fun, be kind, use common sense & be a critical thinker. Life’s too short to live in a robotic state of being. Break free from the Matrix & exit The Truman show. Be your authentic self & don’t take any crap from anyone. Great show! 🤜🏻🤛🏻💕🌹🍻
Your dad's side of the family is not the world .and the difference is they were not told they had to shun you were as the organization are told to shun you
@@vusimngomezulu2500 your question has been answered many times you just refuse to accept those answers. Also you never answer anyone's questions . Get a life get real
Wow this is just sad what my mom might have to face in 20 years, im 25 year old pimo. And I’m going to fade out of this organization and live my life the way I want it and who I want to live it with!
One thing few JWs think about or even consider while alive, is that "Regret Is A One Way Street With No U-Turns". Every decision they make that is either based in Fantasy Thinking or Lacking Critical Thinking Skills; They can not be reversed and will most definitely not end benefitting themselves or their loved ones.
This video is AMAZING!!!!! I am going through almost the exact same thing.....shuuned for 23+ years, and now my stepfather (elder) reaches out to me that my mother has Alzheimer's/dimentia....after 23 years, he sends a text!
My brothers are both JW and they don’t necessarily ‘shun’ me we just don’t have anything in common because they only care about Kingdom Hall. There is no common ground whatsoever with anyone who isn’t obsessed with watchtower doctrine. There is no way around it. I can’t even blame them - if they didn’t have it they wouldn’t have anything.
Thanks for sharing this.. My cousin I imagine was shunned for a long time - and worked at Hooters - but now her devoted witness parents are getting old as she helps to take care of them. So yeah who's Jehovah's servant now? ;).. There are some beautiful, beautiful spiritual truths though in a world of confusion and immorality...
Thank you for this story. So sorry about her daddy. Feels like I just got a glimpse of my future in regards to my dad and I know it hurts him so much now shunning me. Wonder if he ever thinks about what if Armageddon doesn't come and I shunned my Girlsy until I was laid out on my death bed for nothing? They are missing out on everything that gives human existence on this earth any meaning.
Sad, but a great interview. It won't be long until I turn in my disassociation letter. The hypocrisy is just something else. Bring a news paper talking about CSA with another organization and bring it on the platform to prove the empire of false religion, but the same paper brings it up (even with court cases) about JW's, it's apostate driven propaganda. I saw your channel and have been watching for a few months and those interviews are so fitting and true. I've subscribed to your channel and looking forward to watching more.
Sou portuguesa, nascida e criada como zelosa jw. Fui pioneira regular vários anos. Esposa exemplar de ancião por 15 anos. Amava a "verdade" . Até que aos 40 anos fomos pais de uma menina com Down Síndrome que necessitou uma cirurgia ao coração. Foi ai que acordei desta programação mental da Torre. Estou livre desde 2012. Neste momento os meus pais estão nesta situação, o meu pai com 84 anos está muito frágil e nao deve resistir muito mais tempo. Eles não aceitavam as minha visitas desde que oficializei a minha dissossiação das jw. Agora ja disseram às minhas irmãs que não querem saber da religião e apenas estar conosco e mais nada. Em breve vou viajar para ver o meu pai no seu leito de morte. 😢
I didnt get disfellowship , I legt for about 10yrs. Divorce my Bro husband who did everything but died. On returning to a New State with a New Husband. I still had the mindest it was the Truth. Realizing after years of orejudice & there thought of trying to live up. Maybe if I saw some Love, they could continue to bamboozle me. I only saw conditional love. I made up my mind & decided to leave. I Reader Bro Franz Books, helpdesk me to validate what I gelten was real. I say Omg I have been in Occult most of my Life. I later ran into you & Lady Cece among Others. It tool me a weile to.leave people who I had gin a relationship with. Only to find that they only like me only if I was there. On of the most convincing Group who User Jehovah aß there Bate. Eventho I fated I could never be love by that Group. Because I have question that can't be Answer. So I was Label a trouble maker.
Wow! That was a powerful narration by Gail re: her off and on experience as a Jah Witness and her unfortunate & painful experience w/ shunning. Which by the way, is Biblical, according to 1st Corinthians 5:11, however JW's, take it to the Extreme! Her experience like mine, as a 7 year ex-JW confirms that the Watchtower Society is a False Prophet many times over, and is just another garden variety False Religious Cult, by means of promoting white Jesus and the changing of various of their doctrines, such as the one about blood transfusions are Scriptural forbidden, but blood fractions are OK. What a laugh! However, they had me fooled for 40 years! I'm still in the WORD, but oh so free of Watchtower Society, the Real Apostate! Have a good1, Critical Thinkers! Maybe, I'll share my story on your platform, one day. Goldie B.
At 8:55. And I like that phrase "elderette", even though Google may not recognize it, because that's what's many of them are. Many of the "elderettes" know your business just as soon as their husbands know it because they're running the congregations a lot of times. Thank you JT, Lady Cee a Colleen.
That was a common phrase when I was in, 30 years ago. Because the elderettes were in a lot of ways worse than elders. They were always in the car groups or at events, enmeshed in the gossip. They'd often report not just back to their husbands but leak the private information into the congregation. In most congregations there was usually one elderette that was responsible for the mood and behavior of the entire congregation. Usually she had a prominent husband and would wriggle her way into all kinds of events and gatherings and who are we to tell Sister head elder "no". When I went to my grandmother's funeral, the same one was still operating there and she grabbed hold of my (worldly) husband's arm and locked her arm with his and whispered in his ear. He said he didn't recall what she said, but the level of inappropriate behavior I've seen some of those women do is jaw dropping!
How is it that those jw’s gonna come to you and tell you what you can and can not say? Those ppl even own your body on its deathbed. That entire organization is mentally crazy and so are all the members but the dinger is they don’t know they’re crazy!
🤣 Absolutely true ! ! All the ol’ timer elderettes from the hall I was raised in have passed away now. But unfortunately my wife remains a disciple of them. 😣
When I was a MS the elders would send the women and children out in the Florida heat to do door to door and we’d run errands for the hall like maintenance issues and such then visit those in the hospital and count it all as “service time”. My family was never spiritual enough for my sister who shunned us even though I was “exemplary” a MS and regular pioneer.
My friend tried to recruit me in the organization. I've been to the kingdom hall a couple of times. The members were very friendly and it seems like the place to be. When I heard about shunning I was shocked. I told them that the bible says it is better to obey God than men. Acts 5:29 when I realized that the elders were running the members lives.
Critical thinkers this was a wonderful, wonderful broadcast. I got so much out of that, but I'm probably going through the same thing. Thank you, JT and lady c, Thank you, thank the lady for sharing her story with all of us. We all needed to hear that Lots of us probably going through the same thing. I hope some Jehovah's witness active Jehovah's witness what see this story and wake up. God bless that lady for sharing her story With your audience, thank you, j TN lady c. And so there were 2 proposals before the judge right now and how?😊😊
Wow!! Good for you for leaving young and Im just in awe of these stories!! I was one of those "wordly" people that got seduced by promises of being young forever & living forever and I was only in it for 2 years and left bc it just wasn't for me. Part of me identifies as an "apostate" and I saw from personal experience the manipulation and also the perversion with sex. The latest with the child @buse scandals confirmed some things for me. Anyway, glad your living your best life!!!
We were never disfellowshipped but faded for over ten years and we are being shunned by everyone. Our baby is six months old now and they still have no desire to see him. I hope their death bed experience is traumatic and painful.
Even though jw. Misinterpreted scripture it doesn't mean that God doesn't exist and the rule of love is invalid . . Jesus loves you and forgives you .. you should be able to forgive also
@@Lrasm13 no where my comment did I deny god's existence. I'm very forgiving, just not this, and its up to me to determine what to forgive, and what not to forget.
@@WaterBearOfficial if not now then soon please...imagine God has been watching you condemning " worldly " people in the past , patiently lookingforwardto the day you woke up , He forgave you , the second you asked in Jesus's name . I was a student there on and off for 25+ years...I know what you're going through...I rejected my family for 15 years ... if you doubt my sincere request to forgive and forget...I'll provide evidence I was there... lars from Denmark , yearly report in 97' & 98'
My parents fortunately kept speaking to me even after I had left the Org. When my father’s money ran then I had to pay for his upkeep whether I was a Witness or not.
I was a Bible student with JW to the point of almost getting baptized. Then kingdom hall shooting happened in Germany. I was to research seriously about shunning policies and procedures of JW.
The one part that was confusing to me, was Gail was reinstated and never df again so the parents should not have been shunning her? All the jws apparently shunned her since she had faded. I faded and jw relatives did not shun me. I'm sure jws in general would consider me bad association for being inactive, it all gets confusing since it is unwritten rules and unscriptural.
It really depends on the family and the congregation. I know many that treat faded ones as if they were practically disfellowshipped, even if they weren't baptized, because the society has mentioned we should be careful how we interact with those that may be doing wrong when they know Jehovah's standards, even if they aren't disfellowshipped. Some ignore that, same take it very seriously. Everyone is different.
Some families are very loving towards their faded or ex JW members but they keep it on the down-low because Watchtower definitely fosters a culture of suspicion and shunning. On the other hand I’ve observed heartbreaking situations where fanatical, by the book JW parents have hard shunned their grown children and grandkids who were never even baptized. And that’s by design from the WT Governing Body .
in the last 50 years they have gone through flip flops,,, i recall it was about 1980 that they had decided that faded ones as well needed to be shunned,,i have friend that are jw's getting older, shunned their children who put in the letter for 20 years but of recent, as they getting older trying to round them back in to their lives, secretly of course from the other jw's
My dad (was an elder throughout his life) told me a few months before he died, that he was going to start living for his children. In other words, he knew he wasn't going to live through Armegeddon. His good JW friend had told me that my dad had lost his faith. I was never disfellowshipped because I had already faded. I never got married to my husband, and I was lucky, my parents always welcomed me and never shunned me. But one of the elders from the local congregation would shun me. I always thought I was going to die at Armegeddon, but I just didn't like being part of the organization. It wasn't until I watched the Australian Royal Commission on sexual abuse in the JW organization that I finally realized it wasn't the truth.
Wow!! Another story to open everyones eyes. Great interview and video! As always Much Love and Mad Respect to you Lady Cee and JT. Love you guys. Always a Thumbs Up and Shared every single time. A++++ : 😁🥰🤩
I actually think I knew a few people like you growing up 🤔. I wish I could reconnect with them now. It is awesome to finally hear about the other side of the story and how things worked out well for Gail in her life.
Jesus said; "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE ONE ANOTHER; as I have loved you, that ye also LOVE ONE ANOTHER. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." John 13:34-35 KJV As far as I've heard, this is lacking in the Watchtower organization. 😢
I guess forgiveness isn’t allowed in the jw cult. I can assure you, on the judgement throne it won’t be as what the cult said it would be. That is just despicable what that religion does to people.
This story is so disheartening I was hoping that the story would get better .it got worse I’m in the same situation I don’t know if I’m dead or alive. I’m being shunned til this day
I know two elders from 40 years ago when I was “in” and both have given everything to this organisation, both are now suffering from incurable diseases, probably thinking the new system would have been here years ago- I often wonder what they’re really thinking about their decisions to stay in this cult?
My father the " elder" and " "presiding overseer", is dying of Lou Gherigs disease. After years of shunning me, not knowing my daughter or wife. My sister says he has regrets now, however thats on him. Ive already forgiven him in my heart. But i found God and Jesus upon leaving the Organization.
It’s so sad to hear how destructive this cult is. Separates you from your family and takes away all of the fun and joy out of life and separates you from the true God and eternity with him. Really a religion created by Satan himself.
Love hearing of people finding Jesus after leaving the organization
Me too!!
I am happy for you & sad for your Dad...ALS is a horrible disease...And it seems in the JW org , all value is about striving for Gods approval...I pray Jesus knocks on the door of his heart..And he finds his way home back to the Father that created him...
Jesus was never in the "organization."
Their conduct shows that to be true. The "Wheat" and the "Weeds" grow together...for a while.
@@lorriesantos340
For all of those who are going through this, just stay strong. I’m a former Elder and I would say this has been the most freeing experience of my life. I promise it gets better and you will find ways to cope and grow from this situation.
Hi Sir. I'am born and raised by JW parent in the Philippines. I'am unbaptized JW. I distant my self from JW for 23 years. My question is do you still believed in Jehovah God. Up until now, I pray to Him but I never attended JW meetings after I enrolled and got my University degree.
@@kingjehuiiradaza8095
Although this is addressed to J. T. I would like to give my reply.
Prayer is a personal thing or choice.
Calling this God Jehovah is a personal thing.
What ever your conscience allows you to fo according to your knowledge should be fine.
Your personal relationship should depend on you and your purity of heart.
@@kingjehuiiradaza8095 ruclips.net/video/dgxwVhnKDDc/видео.html
Eu fui nascida e criada como zelosa jw. Pioneira, esposa de ancião. Deixei em 2012 aos 40 anos quando descobri a verdade sobre o sangue. A nossa filha de 5 meses necessitou de cirurgia ao coração e aí foi a chamada para acordar. Neste momento o meu pai está nesta situação...
@@Bethinhaz❤
My Elder dad died a year ago and had shunned me for 40+ years when I left the org. At every milestone in my life I reached out to him (grad college, 1st big job, promotions, relocations, marriage….) only to have him ignore me. I even called him when I heard he had terminal cancer - but he wouldn’t pick up the phone so I left a VM telling him I loved him. A few days later his wife called me to tell me she just watched him breath “his last breath”. I didn’t say much until she asked if I had any pictures of me that she could use at his zoom funeral. Really…he didn’t have any pictures of me? Not even one? Nope! I simply responded “well that’s the Love that Never Fails!” And told her I respectfully decline her Zoom funeral invite.
I respect and completely understand your response. What a shameful insult to you and good on you to stand up!!
Wow I’m so sorry..my brother is going though the same 30 yrs since he was disfellowshipped at 18 yrs old …it’s so heartbreaking
I’m so sorry he missed out on your life. What a tragedy. My condolences to you and your family.
Wow. I hope you find peace and forgive him, cause I don't think you deserve that treatment.
My parents have pics of kids from the hall up on the walls and not one of me up. So weird
This story really hit home. As a person who also faded, I’ve always felt that ex-JWs need support groups. Coming out of the “truth” alone and without your family is hard because there is no one to teach Birdy how to fly in the world once they leave the organization.
I also STILL have few good life skills, and I'm 63!
I agree, i think loneliness is the reason most return.
Hi 👋 I’m RiadaChillada of Vancouver Washington and I am a survivor of the JW cult and shunning procedures /// Truth be told I didn’t “fall out” swear on my grave I was Called out 🗣 sheltered in that cave 🪨 I just CrAWLEd out ❤ really wasn’t Praising 🙌 I was all “HALL’d” out ⛪️ really wasn’t Lovin I was “lawed” out -- didn’t feel so Godly so I GOT out. 🎉
Jesus loves you anyway
I had a similar experience. My father is still alive, but he was in critical condition a little over a decade ago. He was so sick that you had to wear a hazmat suit to be in the ICU. He called me and said how he wish things were different, and he would have done things differently. How he loved me and wish he knew my son better. Then he recovered and it was as if the conversation never happened. I dont want to act as if death bed confessions are meaningless. I believe he meant it at the time, but it showed me something that i wish I hadn't learnt. Ultimately, how you live is most important, because nomatter what you say at the end, even if you really mean it, its too late.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
So true 🙏🏽
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Do you have Tourettes syndrome??
@@vusimngomezulu2500Glad you’re reading the comments…
Dear Vusi Mngomezulu,
I was beginning to miss you but here you are again. I am tickled indeed.
Please keep reading the testimonies of ALL Watchtower victims posted here as well as other Exjw channels.
If you perservere I am convinced that you will be convicted to GET OUT OF HER, my Brother.
Being a born in JW I was 22 when I Disassociate from the WT organization I was Shunned by my Siblings but not my parents . My Dad passed away with no JW’s around . My JW’s siblings wasn’t taking care of our Mom at 89 she decided to live with me we’ve had conversations about WT organization she realized and regretted how our family was destroyed . I can relate to Gail her experience of being Shunned WT indoctrination and Brainwashing runs deep . I’m 67 having NO regrets from leaving and I’m so happy to have my Mom back in my life.
Big hugs for loving your mum🤗👏. And well dine your mum and dad for never letting you go either. Sounds like your siblings are more to be pitied than scolded.
Same I’m 22 it will be a year next month! I’m sorry you had to go through that :( I’m still learning rn. Some days are good some are bad, but I don’t wanna go back.
@@brett703 Glad you’re out at 22 a lot of Good years ahead for you…I’ve made my way in life without my JW family for 45 years I wasn’t expecting my JW Mom to want to live with me by my example of just being my true self and doing the best for my family …eventually blessings and rewards will come …Be strong and Enjoy your Freedom 👍🏼😊👍🏼
Happy for both of you. 👍😃
God bless you both
👍💥👍💥👍💥👍💥👍 What a spark this lady is. This interview was so on point ! ! Thank You !
My parents too were extremely fanatical. It was sheer misery and humiliation growing up a JW kid. Like her, I (and my siblings) were never allowed to go over to other kids homes from the Kingdom Hall or have any of them over our house either. Once when I was around 7-8 years old, I invited little Billy, my best budd from the Kingdom Hall, to come over to play after the Sunday morning meeting. My parents were shocked when Billy and his dad knocked on the door and to put on pretenses they allowed them in. But once little Billy and his dad were gone, I got a beating and severe scolding.
It’s sad too to see all the JW old timers, who like my parents, just KNEW they weren’t going to die, that they were going to walk into paradise; now to have seen them all pass away.
Oh so many stories …
My god what reason did they give for your not even being allowed friendships with "brothers and sisters" you are supposed to love??!!
@@annabizaro-doo-dah I can answer that. They were probably in a lower spiritual caste. My father was a nonbeliever. Therefore, we were in a lower spiritual caste. The people in the higher caste did not hang out with us. Only other JWs in the same lower caste. Ignored by JWs and the worldly.
@@annabizaro-doo-dah : Hi 👋. My parents never vocalized a reason to us, but I can explain. My parents were FANATICAL about the religion. My dad was a hard core elder and my step-mom was paranoid about everything. No one was good enough and the other JW kids were considered to be a bad influence and poor association because their parents would allow them to do normal things like, watch tv, or have classmates as friends, or hang out at the park rec center, or maybe even play sports, etc. Essentially my sisters and I grew up in a cult within a cult.
This is such a heartbreaking story. No human being should have to live this life. Great interview JT and Lady Cee.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Do you have Tourettes syndrome?
It's all a fairytale story. The whole religion delusion is; none of us know the actual truth.
@@vusimngomezulu2500😊I’m glad you got to see this video hope you enjoy it…
@@vusimngomezulu2500Someone hs to preach about the JW cult
This a powerful story! I am an Ex-Jw been homeless ever since 19 years old I stopped talking to my family because all we would do is get into arguments.. So this death bed experience makes me think.... I could go on and on...
Any religion that has you shun your own flesh and blood, you need to run far, far away from. Sad story, but one that is sadly repeated in this cult. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed. Very sad. Watchtower is very disgusting.
Please show me a proof from the Bible that all different churches including exjws apostate are not disgusting.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
Dear Vusi Mngomezulu,
Please show us, from the Bible, that it is NOT a crime to hide pedophiles within Jehova’s Witness congregations.
@@georgesotiroff5080 After you answer my simple question 🤣, Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you?????
Gail, I appreciate you coming on the program and telling what happened with your dad. You really told the details clearly and I could easily imagine everything. The cold, military-like parents who loved precision more than closeness in the family. And the elder dad getting hit by a freight train of emotion as the immensity of his loss landed on his heart like ocean breakers. Missing out on precious baby grandchildren would be a nightmare. Like the famous saying goes, he chose poorly. As an elder he would have to know the entire bunch of nonsense that constitutes the WT, but just had to hold on for the pleasure of wielding control over the lesser mortals who were not elders. The JWs are a special kind of hypocrite.
Amen
If the wife dragged the family into the wt cult because of her narcisistic proud personality, then she'd want the prestige that being the wife of an elder would provide her. If he should 'turn his ,back on their 'joho' what would she look like? The prestige that she worked for would disappear and she'd be a nobody. There is no way that her personality type could allow her to be caste down to a spiritually low position like that. The wt, caste system, I know and as I've seen others experience/express is 😢real and it's psychological warfare by wt used on the jw to keep their income rolling in.
A wonderfully crazy spiritual paradise! So sorry for so much pain caused by the shunning. Cognitive dissonance is very painful too.
Not going to lie JT and Lady c, This was a tough one to get through I had to pause every 8 minutes or so to let the rage in me subside. every time I think I have heard it all an interview like this comes around and just blows me away.
This exemplifies why, as soon as someone realizes this organization is not the truth, they need to start building relationships outside of it. It is heartbreaking to hear the stories of those that have not done this and when stripped of their relationships within the organization they are overwhelmed by loneliness. It is not enough to prepare financially. You must also prepare for the emotional aspects of leaving. This story is a glowing example of putting that into action. Thank you for bringing this interview to us! ❤️🌻❤️🌻❤️🌻
Wow, what a powerful story. If that doesn't make a JW really analyze their beliefs then nothing will.I'm so glad there was reconciliation.
On another note, I talked about this several times. Years ago, around 2011 or so, a JW uncle of mine was dying of lung cancer. He had 3 children, (my cousins) 2 of which left the organization. When he was on his deathbed at the last moment they went to see him at the hospital for the last time. He only admitted his oldest son (the active Witness) to the room to say goodbye to. He refused to see his other two kids, and he died never having said he was sorry, or telling them he loved them. He also denied them a last chance to tell him they loved him. He died convinced that he was faithful to Jehovah and in the blink of an eye would awake in paradise. I should mention too that my uncle was a tremendous a-hole to everyone, totally anti-social, and abusive to his family. Some people never wake up from the indoctrination.
Love your channel too brother!! I discovered you from this channel when you had an interview with JT and Lady Cee. You Da Man.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's??????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 no go away troll
@@hektorlinko 🤣😅🤣😂
@@vusimngomezulu2500
SATAN , Has Sent YOU 👈
SHAKA ZULU 🤪
To chase ExJWs 🏃,,,,,,, 🦹
Back . . To the Watchtower ?????
😮Thank you guys for this story. My younger daughter left JW in her early 20s. I almost went with the JW script..thankfully i didn't. My sons in law are very good to me and i am enjoying my grand children and very close relationship with my daughters. You guys are just amazing. That's a story that many of us can relate to. More power to you Gail.
I can feel your pain. My dad is an elder by the book. Since my parents are elderly and sickly, no one helps but us the outcast kids. My mother is suffering from depression but she will not get help. This organization is a cult.
Powerful story. Thank you!
Born & raised JW, left a few years after my JW mom passed. My brother is still in. His daughter got out and we talk often. Luckily he doesn't shun us, but we don't talk about religion. My niece said she thinks he's still in because he wants to see mom in the new system. I want so desperately to tell him he will see her again, we both will and it has nothing to do with bowing down to the borg.
I have former friends that are going through a similar situation.
It's baffling how some women can be much more cruel and unbending, in their narcissistic ways, than their Elder counterparts.
I've noticed that being a Jdubb is for people who are weak-minded that need to FEEL elitist. They feel so good to shun ones disfellowshipped and ones who fade. They where it like a badge of honor! I've had it happen to me in public by an older "sister" that knew me in my youth. It was like she needed to "make sure" that I and everyone in the fruit market know that she was shunning me! I flipped it really quickly! I said, you dirty, filthy Jehovah's Witnesses! You so feel the need to SHUN me, publicly!! Everyone in that area of the market laughed and started saying mean things to and about her...HA....it ain't no fun when the beauty has the gun!!
Spot on! A lot of "personality disorders" in WT culture. Jealousy and hypocrisy and envy. A lot of "regular Joe's" in life and having unqualified responsibility in the KH. Personality disorders that lead to "spiritual abuse" over individuals inadequate lot in life. Especially if given KH "privilege's.
@Daniel-wd4jg Your comment is the elephant in the room of JWS! Once I backed away and noticed the sheer stupidity of the structure of this cult, it was painful. Shunning people in 10 seconds flat because a joker on a stage has told the congregation them to. Great point!!!
@@Daniel-wd4jg I made this same comment about the rate of personality disorders in this organisation it far exceeds the general population and religious entities. It attracts them as well as the CSA. Sad but true.
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Thank you for this.... This is almost a mirror image of my own daughter and her family... I hope she will watch this... I also can't believe her father told her that Beth Sarim didn't exist when the society's publications clearly include the story and history of Rutherford having this built for the faithful men who were at that time soon to be resurrected... When they didn't return as Rutherford said that they would Rutherford himself lived in the mansion...
These episodes never disappoint the way people are literally ride or die for this organization 😮 It's sad how people are robots right to the end 💥
A sister told me she hasn’t spoken to their disfellowshipped children since 12 years! I told her that this is cruel, all hell broke loose.
@@Redeleiser I've never understood how ignoring loved one's shows love
This lady is the same age as me,but I didn't leave until my early 30s, shunned for 28 years, so many that I knew who believed that they wouldn't have to face death in this system now have died including my own father, my mother on the other hand died knowing it was all fake but just keep quiet to keep the peace in the family, very sad
Gail gave us a story I never even imagined. Thanks Lady Cee and JT, you never disappoint.
I totally can relate to this great testimony! I have 3 grown children now and my father is a elder and have nothing to do with them and now I have a 7 month old and I was just telling my wife the other day he too will grow up and will never grow up to know his grandfather bcuz of the big lies he can’t wake up from.
It is shocking and frightening that ordinary people are so easily persuaded to behave with extreme cruelty, dishonesty and stupidity.
Jesus foretold a narrow gate which was for the cramped path..which few are on..but leads to life.
A gate which is narrow..is narrow going in through it as well as for those leaving
Religion is full of dishonesty and cruelty. It is not limited to JW's but it shines there.
@@Cuffsmaster
Someone made the point that the Catholic Church has also been guilty of poor performance in regards to the handling of cases of sexual abuse and molestatation of children ..
And for some time we as witnesses looked down our noses at them..but its been said ,on a pro rata basis the problem is worse among Jehovahs Witnesses .
Now that's quite disappointing.. isnt it..
Put a pin in that for a moment..
Strictly from a Scriptural perspective however, the instructions or scene that's painted by ezekiel as to the place where Gods people dwell reveals a strange set up.
A place without walls gates or doors..
What can that mean ?
None of the normal measures for security..others have in place are seen there..
Where GODS PEOPLE DWELL..
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What's the result of such a ridiculous scenario ?
Ta dahh !
Precisely the situation we now have..
No wonder that the numbers pro rata work out worse with Jehovahs Witnesses as opposed to Catholicism.
@@compositioncompilation I see the Jehovah's Witnesses as just a wild off-spring of an already screwed up religious system based on Christianity founded around the Catholic and later protestant faiths.
If you start with buIIshlt then when you add to it you are still founded on b/s.
@@compositioncompilationwhat are you talking about?
This is a moving story. I was at the edge of my seat throughout. Great thanks to all of you JT, Lady Cee, and the special guest.
Her dad has been holding all that in for all those years that’s why he was balling like that on his death bed. He knows the religion is not right, but it is so ingrained in his being that he does not even know how to begin to let go of it. Which is why it was so easy for her mom to convince him that easily. It’s so so sad. I left the organization over 20 years ago, got married and had a baby. My son is 10 and my mom ( who is JW) is involved in his life, but it’s on MY terms. She loves my son so much that she doesn’t want him out of her life. So I tell her I don’t want him to have anything to do with that organization when he is around you or else. I’ve taken him out of her life before( because of blatant disregard of boundaries) and I will do it again if I have to. I run the show and her or that organization do not run me. End of story.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
Amen to your stance sis, when i wld take my son around my JW family i was paying close attention daring any of them to try to push that crap on my baby, but my son, 23 now, already knew what they were about but he was always respectful to them but I'm so glad that nobody took it their because they wldve probably thought i was satan himself had they tried it
@@khadijahdavis1572 Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500it appears your script is stuck on repeat vusi. 😂
@@ReadRomans10 But you ignored my simple question 🤣, Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's??????
As sad as this is, it speaks volumes of ex Jehovah’s witnesses and apostates, that they are readily willing and eager to forgive the disgusting way they’ve been treated, simply for leaving this organization.
Thank you for your painful sharing. This is powerful testimony to the damage of an organization's mind control. These men and women would never do this if they followed the way of Christ, united with him and under his Light, in peace. May our Lord bless you.
Sad and amazing story. Thanks for sharing this very enlightening video! This pimo is very regretful for choosing to be a part of this CULT! 😢❤
My JW father in law also an Elder was crying in pain of cancer at the last moment to his JW wife, telling her “I want to die”. Imagine JWs who were having Good Hope, preaching to others about LIFE but at the end of deathbed, screaming with pain and saying that sorrowful words in the end. Too sad😢It wasn’t what we always was watching in convention videos as if JW brothers and sisters can die in peace, saying Jehovah thankyou.
As an Ambassador for Christ, the Son of our Father.
Our Father which art in heaven.
Mathew 6: 6-34
I hope your father in law made peace.
@@ginnahcrews8694Here in my country the citizens can choose how they want their dead ones to be buried. It was his WILL to be in ashes and be thrown away as garbage, no need to be in a grave. And the JW family agreed since they believe in resurrection and especially doesn’t need to think about the dead ones, no need of memorial days for them. No need to take flowers too. I was waking up from JW and the Bible, so was very shocked of how these people can be so insensitive toward the dead😢
I am the same age as this lady and was baptized when I was 12 but had a very different life. I did not wake up till I was almost 60. I had a very different relationship with my dad. I cannot imagine what she went through!😞. My condolences
Im living out this same situation. Ive been out of the religion for 30 years and my relationship with my parents will never be right. Thank you for sharing your story.
Always great when these videos drop
More to come!
JT and Lady Cee great job with this interview.
My dad was the same way. A witness for almost 50 years. Put the organization before his family and non witness wife. When he realized he was very very ill, very fast, i think he realized all his JW family was no where. No visits at the hospital, however his wife and non witness family were all there. He actually asked my mom what she thought of my non witness husband, because i think he realized she would need help and my hubby and i would be there every step of the way. She said my hubby is her second son. I dont know if he had any epiphany about the religion, but i guess he questioned his thought about who was there for him and who wasnt.
I connect so well with the experience she experienced. My mother currently still a JW who refuses open her eyes to the truth of her circumstances.
My mother passed away on July 25th. I faded away back in the 90's. My mother was 85 and she wholeheartedly believed she would never grow old or die. She needed me to care for her. She fought so hard everyday to wake up "in paradise." As I held my mother's hand, when she took her last breath, her hand moved and her eyes opened. I don't know if there's a heaven or just death, but in my heart I hope her soul finds peace. 😭💔🕊️
Sorry for your loss. 💕
Hopefully her eyes opened to the meaning of life even if only figuratively. Hoping at the end it will all makes sense for us all.
RIP
Thank you for this channel. This is a sad situation. My father was a witness and on his death bed I read John 14:6 to him, where Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the life and no man comes unto the Father but by me. He told me that he couldn't do it that way and there was nothing else I could say.
Also the Elders will visit to convince the dying person to sign all his property over to the Watchtower which I seen multiple times. In matter of fact I was with an Elder who had a study and owned his house free and clear, his children were pot smokers so the Elder used that as why he should sign his house over even though the man was not baptised! He died within the next 2 weeks! And Watchtower now owned that house not leaving the children with one red cent!
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry for your loss. As a person who also faded (and labeled by some as an apostate), I am usually "soft shunned" but have noticed that as my parent gets older, there is more of a desire for me to be a part of their life regardless of my official status in the org. My parent made the choice to keep me in their life (albeit at a distance sometimes) regardless of the official stance of the org.
Just talked to my dad who is an elder in his local congregation, he defended disfellowshipping until he was blue in the face. They don’t get it until it’s too late.
Wonderful interview. Thank you for comforting me because I resonated with what Gail experienced. Gail you are an amazing woman.
“They were never going to have a deathbed”. “Armageddon is not going to save them from a deathbed experience”. It never occurred to me that they behave like that because they believe they are not going to experience it. With the Mother it was a sunken cost fallacy. If you wake up and realise it’s all for nothing at that stage………
Great video and content as always! Before seeing this video I had just went through my phone and deleted family numbers who are shunning me. I refuse to allow them to send me on a emotional roller coaster when one of them dies.
Totally agree. I came to this conclusion after many years and heartache just about a month ago.😢
It is all so sick...and foretold.
I’m 34 years old, grew up in the organization, been serving as an elder for 8 years, and been PIMO for 5 years. It wasn’t until just 2 years ago that I finally realized - despite being awake already - that if the religion wasn’t true, that also meant that eternal life wasn’t real. I had never once thought thought about my mortality throughout my life, and then it hit me like a bucket of freezing cold water. I went into a deep depression and would break down crying every day BEGGING for me not to die and cease to exist one day. I have since recovered from that stage, but not a day goes by now that I don’t contemplate the eventual end of my life. Sometimes makes me kinda wish I never woke up.
Just because the Witnesses are false doesn't mean that you can't have eternal life. Find the truth through reading the Gospel without the lies of the Watchtower. Jesus shed his blood so we could have eternal life. Seek the real truth. Pray to be led to what is true. I was also a Jehovah's Witness.
Wonderful guest. Sorry for your loss Gail. You are a strong and smart woman ❤
I think this is your best interview yet. A fascinating listen.
This is my story!!! The line "maybe they will love me more" hit home like a daggar!
Thank you Gail for sharing your story. It's a sad realization for your father, but I'm glad that you're resilient‼️ Thank you JT and Lady Cee...Excellent interview.
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Thank you for the video - I was told I would never see death and that was 50 years ago when I was 10 and I sat next to an old man that was told that when he was 10.
I got baptized when I was 16 and disfellowshiped at 17 I totally relate I hurt everyday I'm 49 now and the pain seems to never go away I have a large family but I'm shunned everyday of my life. I feel helpless most of the time please keep me in your prayers. I watch your videos and they encourage me a lot but loneliness is terrible. Keep up the great work guys love y'all ❤
So sad. Do not fall away from Christ when "SHUNNED" John 16:1-5
“I have told you these things so that you won’t abandon your faith. For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God. This is because they have never known the Father or me. Yes, I’m telling you these things now, so that when they happen, you will remember my warning.
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary"
Our Lord Jesus, by giving his disciples notice of trouble, designed that the terror might not be a surprise to them. It is possible for those who are real enemies to God's service, to pretend zeal for it. This does not lessen the sin of the persecutors; villanies will never be changed by putting the name of God to them. As Jesus in his sufferings, so his followers in theirs, should look to the fulfilling of Scripture.
Her story is incredible and she's a great story teller. She has been blessed in so many ways and i wish her continued blessings 🙌🏽
Powerful interview❤thanks for letting Gail share a story that many can relate to
Great interview!! Many hugs to her & her family!
My story is a complete conundrum.
My dads side of the family was enormous. My mom was an only child, but had a big cousin side out of state. Not a single person in the family was a jw. When I became one, many of my dads side stopped talking to me & stopped inviting me to all the gatherings & reunions. It was basically ‘ worldly’ shunning. After a while I was df’ed & of course got shunned by all. Long complicated story that involved 4 congregations in total. After over a year I got reinstated. After a while I faded out & it’s been over 25 years now. Still defended them until I started learning the real scoop on the org.
So I got shunned by “the world” and by the organization. People are people weather in or out. There’s hypocrisy, corruption & gaslighting in all areas of life, in or out. You just have to find your tribe, keep your circle tight & live life to the fullest. Do what makes YOU happy & deprogram from all the bull💩. You have to be your own bestie and take care of yourself. There is so much beauty amidst all the ugliness. But you have to break free from control & what others expect you to be. Mold yourself & show yourself the love you never had.
Go have fun, be kind, use common sense & be a critical thinker. Life’s too short to live in a robotic state of being. Break free from the Matrix & exit The Truman show. Be your authentic self & don’t take any crap from anyone.
Great show!
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Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
Your dad's side of the family is not the world .and the difference is they were not told they had to shun you were as the organization are told to shun you
@@ericbulman1752 But you ignored my simple question 🤣, Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 your question has been answered many times you just refuse to accept those answers. Also you never answer anyone's questions . Get a life get real
@jackijax505 ; Well spoken ; so true ! ! 😊🙏🏽
A sad story, heartwranching. 💔😢 thank you for sharing with all of us.
This is soon to be my situation,only child of two devoted JWs in their 70s wondering where is the promised Paradise...
Wow this is just sad what my mom might have to face in 20 years, im 25 year old pimo.
And I’m going to fade out of this organization and live my life the way I want it and who I want to live it with!
One thing few JWs think about or even consider while alive, is that "Regret Is A One Way Street With No U-Turns".
Every decision they make that is either based in Fantasy Thinking or Lacking Critical Thinking Skills; They can not be reversed and will most definitely not end benefitting themselves or their loved ones.
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????
This video is AMAZING!!!!! I am going through almost the exact same thing.....shuuned for 23+ years, and now my stepfather (elder) reaches out to me that my mother has Alzheimer's/dimentia....after 23 years, he sends a text!
Wow. So sad. God is LOVE. Those who worship the WT Idol fall far short.
My brothers are both JW and they don’t necessarily ‘shun’ me we just don’t have anything in common because they only care about Kingdom Hall. There is no common ground whatsoever with anyone who isn’t obsessed with watchtower doctrine. There is no way around it. I can’t even blame them - if they didn’t have it they wouldn’t have anything.
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Thanks for supporting the channel
Our pleasure! Thanks Fam!!! When you finally get to DC, dinner on us!!!
@@ExJWCriticalThinkerThat's Love I'll definitely keep in touch Family
love you two your channel is a refuge
The world ought to hear this story.Crazy,insane cult.
Don't worry
The world would hear it October 31 in front of the white house
Thanks for sharing this.. My cousin I imagine was shunned for a long time - and worked at Hooters - but now her devoted witness parents are getting old as she helps to take care of them. So yeah who's Jehovah's servant now? ;).. There are some beautiful, beautiful spiritual truths though in a world of confusion and immorality...
Thank you for this story. So sorry about her daddy. Feels like I just got a glimpse of my future in regards to my dad and I know it hurts him so much now shunning me. Wonder if he ever thinks about what if Armageddon doesn't come and I shunned my Girlsy until I was laid out on my death bed for nothing? They are missing out on everything that gives human existence on this earth any meaning.
Sad, but a great interview. It won't be long until I turn in my disassociation letter. The hypocrisy is just something else. Bring a news paper talking about CSA with another organization and bring it on the platform to prove the empire of false religion, but the same paper brings it up (even with court cases) about JW's, it's apostate driven propaganda.
I saw your channel and have been watching for a few months and those interviews are so fitting and true. I've subscribed to your channel and looking forward to watching more.
Excellent video. This is so true. They're not ready for that time alone on their deathbed. All of the lies & families affected by the lies.
Powerful story! It's a shame that this organization and others like it have robbed people of loving relationships.
Sou portuguesa, nascida e criada como zelosa jw. Fui pioneira regular vários anos. Esposa exemplar de ancião por 15 anos. Amava a "verdade" . Até que aos 40 anos fomos pais de uma menina com Down Síndrome que necessitou uma cirurgia ao coração. Foi ai que acordei desta programação mental da Torre. Estou livre desde 2012. Neste momento os meus pais estão nesta situação, o meu pai com 84 anos está muito frágil e nao deve resistir muito mais tempo. Eles não aceitavam as minha visitas desde que oficializei a minha dissossiação das jw.
Agora ja disseram às minhas irmãs que não querem saber da religião e apenas estar conosco e mais nada. Em breve vou viajar para ver o meu pai no seu leito de morte. 😢
Es una tristeza. Pero te felicito por tu libertad.
@@EfrainRiveraJunior obrigada 🙏
Te mando un fuerte abrazo! ❤
@@EfrainRiveraJunior tambien
God bless you for forgiveness
Amazing and encouraging story, thanks for sharing ❤
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
It sounds like she is telling my story. I understand so well . 😢
I didnt get disfellowship , I legt for about 10yrs. Divorce my Bro husband who did everything but died. On returning to a New State with a New Husband. I still had the mindest it was the Truth. Realizing after years of orejudice & there thought of trying to live up. Maybe if I saw some Love, they could continue to bamboozle me. I only saw conditional love. I made up my mind & decided to leave. I Reader Bro Franz Books, helpdesk me to validate what I gelten was real. I say Omg I have been in Occult most of my Life. I later ran into you & Lady Cece among Others. It tool me a weile to.leave people who I had gin a relationship with. Only to find that they only like me only if I was there. On of the most convincing Group who User Jehovah aß there Bate. Eventho I fated I could never be love by that Group. Because I have question that can't be Answer. So I was Label a trouble maker.
Their own grief and misery is what they’ve reaped. I’m unable to get with the idea of lessening their burden at the end of their lives.
Great message of love
This is a real true heartfelt story
Wow! That was a powerful narration by Gail re: her off and on experience as a Jah Witness and her unfortunate & painful experience w/ shunning.
Which by the way, is Biblical, according to 1st Corinthians 5:11, however JW's, take it to the Extreme!
Her experience like mine, as a 7 year ex-JW confirms that the Watchtower Society is a False Prophet many times over, and is just another garden variety False Religious Cult, by means of promoting white Jesus and the changing of various of their doctrines, such as the one about blood transfusions are Scriptural forbidden, but blood fractions are OK.
What a laugh!
However, they had me fooled for 40 years!
I'm still in the WORD, but oh so free of Watchtower Society, the Real Apostate!
Have a good1, Critical Thinkers!
Maybe, I'll share my story on your platform, one day.
Goldie B.
Awful, absolutely awful. I can imagine the same happening to my father. So sorry you went through this,
At 8:55. And I like that phrase "elderette", even though Google may not recognize it, because that's what's many of them are. Many of the "elderettes" know your business just as soon as their husbands know it because they're running the congregations a lot of times.
Thank you JT, Lady Cee a Colleen.
That was a common phrase when I was in, 30 years ago. Because the elderettes were in a lot of ways worse than elders. They were always in the car groups or at events, enmeshed in the gossip. They'd often report not just back to their husbands but leak the private information into the congregation. In most congregations there was usually one elderette that was responsible for the mood and behavior of the entire congregation. Usually she had a prominent husband and would wriggle her way into all kinds of events and gatherings and who are we to tell Sister head elder "no". When I went to my grandmother's funeral, the same one was still operating there and she grabbed hold of my (worldly) husband's arm and locked her arm with his and whispered in his ear. He said he didn't recall what she said, but the level of inappropriate behavior I've seen some of those women do is jaw dropping!
How is it that those jw’s gonna come to you and tell you what you can and can not say? Those ppl even own your body on its deathbed. That entire organization is mentally crazy and so are all the members but the dinger is they don’t know they’re crazy!
🤣 Absolutely true ! ! All the ol’ timer elderettes from the hall I was raised in have passed away now. But unfortunately my wife remains a disciple of them. 😣
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When I was a MS the elders would send the women and children out in the Florida heat to do door to door and we’d run errands for the hall like maintenance issues and such then visit those in the hospital and count it all as “service time”. My family was never spiritual enough for my sister who shunned us even though I was “exemplary” a MS and regular pioneer.
My experience suggests she, your sister, was "banging" someone on the side. They are the worst hypocrites.
First time I am hearing rhe term, "Elderette." Its funny.😂😂😂 Aftet they.kicked me out, I never put a toe back in that HELL hall.
My friend tried to recruit me in the organization. I've been to the kingdom hall a couple of times. The members were very friendly and it seems like the place to be. When I heard about shunning I was shocked. I told them that the bible says it is better to obey God than men. Acts 5:29 when I realized that the elders were running the members lives.
Critical thinkers this was a wonderful, wonderful broadcast. I got so much out of that, but I'm probably going through the same thing. Thank you, JT and lady c, Thank you, thank the lady for sharing her story with all of us. We all needed to hear that Lots of us probably going through the same thing. I hope some Jehovah's witness active Jehovah's witness what see this story and wake up. God bless that lady for sharing her story With your audience, thank you, j TN lady c. And so there were 2 proposals before the judge right now and how?😊😊
Great eye opening interview! 👍🏽
Wow!! Good for you for leaving young and Im just in awe of these stories!! I was one of those "wordly" people that got seduced by promises of being young forever & living forever and I was only in it for 2 years and left bc it just wasn't for me. Part of me identifies as an "apostate" and I saw from personal experience the manipulation and also the perversion with sex. The latest with the child @buse scandals confirmed some things for me. Anyway, glad your living your best life!!!
Pray for All! Love and Support All! May God Bless Us All!
We were never disfellowshipped but faded for over ten years and we are being shunned by everyone. Our baby is six months old now and they still have no desire to see him. I hope their death bed experience is traumatic and painful.
Even though jw. Misinterpreted scripture it doesn't mean that God doesn't exist and the rule of love is invalid . . Jesus loves you and forgives you .. you should be able to forgive also
@@Lrasm13 no where my comment did I deny god's existence. I'm very forgiving, just not this, and its up to me to determine what to forgive, and what not to forget.
@@WaterBearOfficial if not now then soon please...imagine God has been watching you condemning " worldly " people in the past , patiently lookingforwardto the day you woke up , He forgave you , the second you asked in Jesus's name . I was a student there on and off for 25+ years...I know what you're going through...I rejected my family for 15 years ... if you doubt my sincere request to forgive and forget...I'll provide evidence I was there... lars from Denmark , yearly report in 97' & 98'
@@Lrasm13 I appreciate your kindness and sincerity. Thank you for your thoughts. Perhaps one day
@@WaterBearOfficial God bless you and your family...you're gonna be fine
No one deserves this kind of cruelty
My parents fortunately kept speaking to me even after I had left the Org.
When my father’s money ran then I had to pay for his upkeep whether I was a Witness or not.
Left to which way between this 2 ?????? Mathew 7:13-14.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 you are on the wide path
Your parents had common sense, you’re lucky.
I was a Bible student with JW to the point of almost getting baptized. Then kingdom hall shooting happened in Germany. I was to research seriously about shunning policies and procedures of JW.
Wow, what a story. another casualty of the Watchtower. Wanting to express love and caring support to her.
The one part that was confusing to me, was Gail was reinstated and never df again so the parents should not have been shunning her? All the jws apparently shunned her since she had faded. I faded and jw relatives did not shun me. I'm sure jws in general would consider me bad association for being inactive, it all gets confusing since it is unwritten rules and unscriptural.
Her mother is a fanatic and obviously had a lot of influence over the family.
It really depends on the family and the congregation. I know many that treat faded ones as if they were practically disfellowshipped, even if they weren't baptized, because the society has mentioned we should be careful how we interact with those that may be doing wrong when they know Jehovah's standards, even if they aren't disfellowshipped. Some ignore that, same take it very seriously. Everyone is different.
Some families are very loving towards their faded or ex JW members but they keep it on the down-low because Watchtower definitely fosters a culture of suspicion and shunning.
On the other hand I’ve observed heartbreaking situations where fanatical, by the book JW parents have hard shunned their grown children and grandkids who were never even baptized. And that’s by design from the WT Governing Body .
in the last 50 years they have gone through flip flops,,, i recall it was about 1980 that they had decided that faded ones as well needed to be shunned,,i have friend that are jw's getting older, shunned their children who put in the letter for 20 years but of recent, as they getting older trying to round them back in to their lives, secretly of course from the other jw's
My dad (was an elder throughout his life) told me a few months before he died, that he was going to start living for his children. In other words, he knew he wasn't going to live through Armegeddon. His good JW friend had told me that my dad had lost his faith. I was never disfellowshipped because I had already faded. I never got married to my husband, and I was lucky, my parents always welcomed me and never shunned me. But one of the elders from the local congregation would shun me. I always thought I was going to die at Armegeddon, but I just didn't like being part of the organization. It wasn't until I watched the Australian Royal Commission on sexual abuse in the JW organization that I finally realized it wasn't the truth.
Wow!! Another story to open everyones eyes. Great interview and video! As always Much Love and Mad Respect to you Lady Cee and JT. Love you guys. Always a Thumbs Up and Shared every single time. A++++ : 😁🥰🤩
Open everyone's eyes to which way between this 2 ??????? Mathew 7:13-14,and Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????
HalleluYah Amen Truth! Great Job Family
Thanks for listening
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Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
@@ExJWCriticalThinkerJesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's?????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500THANK GOD WATCHTOWER IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SOON
I actually think I knew a few people like you growing up 🤔. I wish I could reconnect with them now. It is awesome to finally hear about the other side of the story and how things worked out well for Gail in her life.
Jesus said;
"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE ONE ANOTHER; as I have loved you, that ye also LOVE ONE ANOTHER. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
John 13:34-35 KJV
As far as I've heard, this is lacking in the Watchtower organization. 😢
I guess forgiveness isn’t allowed in the jw cult. I can assure you, on the judgement throne it won’t be as what the cult said it would be. That is just despicable what that religion does to people.
This story is so disheartening
I was hoping that the story would get better .it got worse
I’m in the same situation
I don’t know if I’m dead or alive.
I’m being shunned til this day
Very sad story. Condolences to the young lady and her family.
I know two elders from 40 years ago when I was “in” and both have given everything to this organisation, both are now suffering from incurable diseases, probably thinking the new system would have been here years ago- I often wonder what they’re really thinking about their decisions to stay in this cult?