Are you impressed? 00:00 Start 00:15 Introduction and pulling the panels off 02:28 And there we have it, naked 03:05 This case has a number of interesting features 04:06 Phanteks? Leo, whats up ? 04:48 Key feature - fan details 06:32 Power Supply and GPU support 08:07 Leo’s thoughts 09:08 Putting hardware in the case 10:10 Multi purpose bracket! 11:00 Rear panel and drives 12:30 Leos views on installation and cooling 13:57 AIO install 16:12 Some testing / results 21:12 Leo’s Closing Thoughts
I was holding out for a mATX board/cpu/memory combo for my mothers PC, wasn't blown away by much the past few years (AMD or intel mATX offerings). now I'm thinking about the mATX case, this one. for something mid-powered for a Web-PC it looks good. this case is absolutely something to consider. the case she has, is a 10year old mATC fractal design offering, was fun to work with back then, and works well enough I didn't consider replacing the case, until now.
I almost like the case except for the plastic parts like the front panel. I remember the FT03 being made of metal and aluminum. All sides were aluminum
Excellent review although I would prefer to see an air cooler in this case rather than an AIO. Too many reviews want to stick an AIO in every case even when they are air flow focused and considering the clearances available in this case, would love to see something like the Fuma 2 in there.
The perforated holes are probably so small that adding the filters reduces airflow too much. They should have made the filters removable and not built into the panels. Otherwise I like it. Looks much fancier than typical matx cases.
Installing a pair of exhaust fans at the back might solve the thermal issues with 360mm AIO. I'd imagine a 240mm AIO or NH-U12A with extra exhaust fans will do well with Ryzen 5 or 7 /i5 or i7 in this chassis. Nice review. I hope you can also review Silverstone's Sugo 16.
there is no space to add extra case fans for the side intake if you put a U12A. You will be restricted to 1 side intake and 2 rear exhaust. I do believe this will work better than an AIO
I own this case. Currently running i9-10900KF, 1660 Super (to be upgraded), and 360mm AIO (BeQuiet Silent Loop 2). For temps, I've had no issues throughout this scorching summer, with an ambient temp of 40C. Running at a full all-core load, temps did not exceed 80C. It may have been a bit noisy, but it's better than most cases I've used in the past - especially ITX cases. A good fan curve and suitable fans go a long way to ensuring effective cooling. Make sure you take care in cooling your VRMs. If dust is an issue, give the panels a blow with a decent air compressor from time to time.
this is definitely a great candidate for DIY workstation PCs that need to sit on the floor, top i/o is such an insane/worthy feature. if i were to build a new PC this is definitely what i would go for.
Nice to see a vertical mount of the GPU. Stops card sag, I keep hoping Thermaltake do a Tower 100 variant for a micro ATX board (although I'm not sure if there is a big enough market).
I just noticed on this review the two side panels were on the incorrect sides at the beginning of the video. Both back and side dust filters are easily removable. The side being magnetic and the back slides out.
I would argue that the AIO is damaging your airflow too much in this system. Swap for an air cooler on the CPU and I think you'd see better temps. I'm tempted to swap to this from my LD03-AF for the extra GPU clearance, but man that front panel is ugly as sin.
filters are great but unfortunately they'll restrict airflow maybe using the AIO as exhaust and therefore removing the relevant filter on the side panel will improve things
great review as usual, I'm considering this case as I have a 360mm and a huge GPU (xfx speedster merc rx 7900xt black) and my options for matx are limited to only this case with this card!
Here's a wacky idea. What about running the 360AIO with the bottom fan as an intake but the top two as exhausts. This would stop the bottom fan short-circuiting the main case fan, and fit in with the vertical airflow design
I think it would do a lot better with the AIO and the GPU as intake, and put a pair of 120mm fans on the back as exhaust. Yes, you'll still get natural convection taking heat out the top, but you'll also have active exhaust with the pair of 120mm fans. Now, if you want to put a monster air cooler on there I doubt you'd need the 120mm exhaust fans on the back.
As a former Phanteks Shift (OG) owner I can see the great improvements in this vertical case design, and the additional cooling support in a similar sized chassis is very impressive. Visually the Shift is still hard to beat... But with the existence of the brilliant all-metal SSUPD Meshlicious this case to me looks like a previous gen vertical chassis. Supporting mATX might appear to be a positive, but I think its a mute point as there are far more mITX motherboard options out in the wild. The Meshlicious is significantly smaller, has traditional rear accessible motherboard IO, can support ATX PSU's, massive 4 slot GPU's, up to a 280mm AIO and has very good cooling. This is a decent addition to the vertical case category though which is great to see, but the CPU temps are surprising considering you have a 360 AIO! I wonder what the temps would be like with the AIO fans set as exhaust and the filter somehow removed?
as a current meshlicious owner i've taken an interest in this case specifically because the budget model of gpu cooler i have my eye on(the eiswolf 2 leo reviewed) comes with a 360mm radiator i need a case this tall to accommodate. it seems like in the age of ryzen, cpu temps are less of a threat to gaming performance than gpu temps, so i'm interested in the idea of getting a taller case and switching which components are cooled with air vs water edit: forgot-getting this desk footprint without a riser cable would also be a big + in my book
2years after you commented but still…it’s because dust falls downward usually. So the airflow pushing out stop dust when the machine is running, when it’s not, anything above it travelling downward, enters the case. The holes are big enough to let in dust, hair, pet fur…all sorts.
Since the bottom 180 mm Air Penetrator 184i PRO is a static pressure fan, should the three 120 mm fans on case side be optimized for static pressure or air flow?
Good review but as others have said, why the AIO and not a decent air cooler. I still have the FT02 Fortress with upgraded AP183 fans (did not know about the AP 184i Pro). They are currently running at around 780rpm and very quiet. I have an i9-7980xe (de-lidded) in there and with a D15S the CPU package temp ATM is 30 degrees at ambient of 20 degrees. Fantastic case that I am keeping.
I think an air-cooler for the CPU would perform better. Owned a 3090 Palit GamingPro and the only way airflow doesn't affect it for worse is intake below it.
Thank you for the great review. I'm considering this case with a ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua Edition once available and a Noctua NH-U12A CPU cooler. However am concerned the 4.3 slot GPU will have its fans right up against the mesh (if it fits) and create noisy turbulence. I'm also a little concerned with hot air getting trapped in the compartment above the GPU, i.e. with the mesh top on, though am aware that should already be reflected in temp measurements. Would be a shame to use a GPU whose point it is to be quiet, and have the build be loud. Am also keeping an eye out for a trustworthy review of the Prodigy M 2022, mostly for temps, another low compromise mATX option.
interesting layout - I like the thought they've put into the routing of the motherboard IO and the PSU mains cable.. those are often somewhat ugly and weird in cases where the mobo is rotated like this.
I wonder how it would handle a Ryzen5/I-5 on an air cooler. You'd have to add fans to the back since according to Silverstone's documentation you won't have clearance for fans on that side bracket. An NVIDIA FE GPU with the rear exhausting fan might do pretty good here too.
well, i use second pci-e slot for powered-eSATA extension (which is used for 5.25 dvd-rom placed on table, outside of case) and now, while i'm trying to move from corsair 4000d to something more space-saving it's a pure headache to find a case which will support mATX motherboards and fit full-size 3-3.5 slots graphics card AND these eSATA card
Could I fit a 240mm radiator on the right side of the case, with the two 120mm fan slots? the website states they dont support it but I just wanted to know what kind of clearances there is for me to jam/dremel mine in anyway. My radiator is 295mm tall. I already have a 360mm cpu and 240mm gpu aio so I'd really like to fit them both in a case as small of a form factor as possible.
Oh my if someone wanted to go balls to the walls they could fit a ton of rads in that case. Looks like 2x 240mm rads, and a 180mm rad. Oh i can't wait to see someone do it.
I never understood why are all reviewers using so high end and high power components in these small cases. This case is perfect for air cooled i5 and RTX 3060 Ti, or even for AMD APU like 5700G without dedicated GPU, and 240 AIO at max. Add two Nvme drives and you are good to go. You have a perfect, small footprint PC.
This is a very expensive case for something that doesn't have aluminium panels. Probably silverstone spent a lot of money with the tooling to justify this price. Still I like the design and functionality and probably it pairs well with FE gpus. You can as well use it with the crosshair impact and use a 5950X and 3090 with it as silverstone makes up to 1200w sfx psus. Besides that temps are quite janky.
The way you were shifting the case around made the Alta look quite light: is that correct or just your practised ease? I too would like to see the temperatures of an air cooled build. This case seems to be built for a bottom to top flow. I also wonder if a Founders Edition RTX card might have different, even better, temperatures because of the way that cooler works.
I've just bought it and the fan has a really annoying noise, I did some research and apparently is the low quality of the motor fan that makes it, the ticking on idle is quite disturbing and the soultion would be hard, there aren't many 180 mm fans in the market, the Fractal one might not fit being "taller" and I live in the arse of the world in Argentina with extremely high prices when comes to import one.
Excellent review as always. I was hard-pressed to continue beyond the 170/180 US' revelation. What makes this chassis so special that Silverstone feels they can charge more than 130 US for this? Aesthetically, it doesn't even look better than its cheaper competition. Hard pass. 👎
GN takes a very different approach to case testing and uses a GTX 1080 with Core i7-6700Kand MSI Core Frozr. 17 degrees C variance with that set-up would be enormous.
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Are you impressed?
00:00 Start
00:15 Introduction and pulling the panels off
02:28 And there we have it, naked
03:05 This case has a number of interesting features
04:06 Phanteks? Leo, whats up ?
04:48 Key feature - fan details
06:32 Power Supply and GPU support
08:07 Leo’s thoughts
09:08 Putting hardware in the case
10:10 Multi purpose bracket!
11:00 Rear panel and drives
12:30 Leos views on installation and cooling
13:57 AIO install
16:12 Some testing / results
21:12 Leo’s Closing Thoughts
Yes!
I was holding out for a mATX board/cpu/memory combo for my mothers PC, wasn't blown away by much the past few years (AMD or intel mATX offerings). now I'm thinking about the mATX case, this one. for something mid-powered for a Web-PC it looks good. this case is absolutely something to consider.
the case she has, is a 10year old mATC fractal design offering, was fun to work with back then, and works well enough I didn't consider replacing the case, until now.
I almost like the case except for the plastic parts like the front panel. I remember the FT03 being made of metal and aluminum. All sides were aluminum
@@MarkVersion1 They're making them cheaper than they used to.
Can you tell me what do you mean by the thumbnail it's quite disturbing!?
Excellent review although I would prefer to see an air cooler in this case rather than an AIO. Too many reviews want to stick an AIO in every case even when they are air flow focused and considering the clearances available in this case, would love to see something like the Fuma 2 in there.
Interested how it would perform with an air cooler.
I really hope they make a mini version of this as they did for the FT03.
The perforated holes are probably so small that adding the filters reduces airflow too much. They should have made the filters removable and not built into the panels. Otherwise I like it. Looks much fancier than typical matx cases.
i imagine using the AIO as exhaust and removing the filter it's installed on will help considerably
Great content as always Leo! Really enjoy your perspective and knowledge. Good stuff.
Used to have a FT03, loved the random fan inside to move air lol. the good old days
Installing a pair of exhaust fans at the back might solve the thermal issues with 360mm AIO. I'd imagine a 240mm AIO or NH-U12A with extra exhaust fans will do well with Ryzen 5 or 7 /i5 or i7 in this chassis.
Nice review. I hope you can also review Silverstone's Sugo 16.
remove the filters and dont be lazy with cleaning
there is no space to add extra case fans for the side intake if you put a U12A. You will be restricted to 1 side intake and 2 rear exhaust. I do believe this will work better than an AIO
I own this case. Currently running i9-10900KF, 1660 Super (to be upgraded), and 360mm AIO (BeQuiet Silent Loop 2).
For temps, I've had no issues throughout this scorching summer, with an ambient temp of 40C.
Running at a full all-core load, temps did not exceed 80C. It may have been a bit noisy, but it's better than most cases I've used in the past - especially ITX cases.
A good fan curve and suitable fans go a long way to ensuring effective cooling. Make sure you take care in cooling your VRMs.
If dust is an issue, give the panels a blow with a decent air compressor from time to time.
this is definitely a great candidate for DIY workstation PCs that need to sit on the floor, top i/o is such an insane/worthy feature. if i were to build a new PC this is definitely what i would go for.
Thank you for this extensive review. I am getting this case and this was really helpful.
I think it is a great case, lot's of options, well filtered, small footprint... Not everyone needs the most powerful GPU's and CPU's!
Nice to see a vertical mount of the GPU. Stops card sag, I keep hoping Thermaltake do a Tower 100 variant for a micro ATX board (although I'm not sure if there is a big enough market).
I just noticed on this review the two side panels were on the incorrect sides at the beginning of the video. Both back and side dust filters are easily removable. The side being magnetic and the back slides out.
I would argue that the AIO is damaging your airflow too much in this system.
Swap for an air cooler on the CPU and I think you'd see better temps.
I'm tempted to swap to this from my LD03-AF for the extra GPU clearance, but man that front panel is ugly as sin.
filters are great but unfortunately they'll restrict airflow
maybe using the AIO as exhaust and therefore removing the relevant filter on the side panel will improve things
Can tell leo had fun with this.
great review as usual, I'm considering this case as I have a 360mm and a huge GPU (xfx speedster merc rx 7900xt black) and my options for matx are limited to only this case with this card!
I like where the front I/O are-bottom left so my gaming mouse and keyboard can be attached without having to go top down or back around to front.
Silverstone, makers of unique cases and weird accessories.
Here's a wacky idea. What about running the 360AIO with the bottom fan as an intake but the top two as exhausts. This would stop the bottom fan short-circuiting the main case fan, and fit in with the vertical airflow design
Seems to me that the AIO fans are interrupting the airflow of the bottom fan, would be interesting to see the results with a tower air cooler.
I think it would do a lot better with the AIO and the GPU as intake, and put a pair of 120mm fans on the back as exhaust. Yes, you'll still get natural convection taking heat out the top, but you'll also have active exhaust with the pair of 120mm fans. Now, if you want to put a monster air cooler on there I doubt you'd need the 120mm exhaust fans on the back.
As a former Phanteks Shift (OG) owner I can see the great improvements in this vertical case design, and the additional cooling support in a similar sized chassis is very impressive. Visually the Shift is still hard to beat... But with the existence of the brilliant all-metal SSUPD Meshlicious this case to me looks like a previous gen vertical chassis. Supporting mATX might appear to be a positive, but I think its a mute point as there are far more mITX motherboard options out in the wild. The Meshlicious is significantly smaller, has traditional rear accessible motherboard IO, can support ATX PSU's, massive 4 slot GPU's, up to a 280mm AIO and has very good cooling.
This is a decent addition to the vertical case category though which is great to see, but the CPU temps are surprising considering you have a 360 AIO! I wonder what the temps would be like with the AIO fans set as exhaust and the filter somehow removed?
as a current meshlicious owner i've taken an interest in this case specifically because the budget model of gpu cooler i have my eye on(the eiswolf 2 leo reviewed) comes with a 360mm radiator i need a case this tall to accommodate. it seems like in the age of ryzen, cpu temps are less of a threat to gaming performance than gpu temps, so i'm interested in the idea of getting a taller case and switching which components are cooled with air vs water
edit: forgot-getting this desk footprint without a riser cable would also be a big + in my book
Wonder why the top need a filter when the case is designed to flow air up and out.... Wouldnt the top filter trap dust in?
2years after you commented but still…it’s because dust falls downward usually. So the airflow pushing out stop dust when the machine is running, when it’s not, anything above it travelling downward, enters the case. The holes are big enough to let in dust, hair, pet fur…all sorts.
@@ausdublin I waited every day for 2 years for a response. My life has shattered for this news. jkjk
Pls review the Alta F1. Thanks!
I am looking at this case and the Corsair's 2000D.
PC cases are really starting to be functionally great.
Since the bottom 180 mm Air Penetrator 184i PRO is a static pressure fan, should the three 120 mm fans on case side be optimized for static pressure or air flow?
Case discontinued? Rare to find
I like this, looks great!
Would be great if you guys have a look at Tecware cases. They are cheaper cases but I find them great for the price.
Good review but as others have said, why the AIO and not a decent air cooler. I still have the FT02 Fortress with upgraded AP183 fans (did not know about the AP 184i Pro). They are currently running at around 780rpm and very quiet. I have an i9-7980xe (de-lidded) in there and with a D15S the CPU package temp ATM is 30 degrees at ambient of 20 degrees. Fantastic case that I am keeping.
Can you review the SS Alta F1?
I think an air-cooler for the CPU would perform better. Owned a 3090 Palit GamingPro and the only way airflow doesn't affect it for worse is intake below it.
😂 you think a smaller air cooler would be better than a 360mm aio? 🤨 not sure about that one
Seems it would be better air-cooled with no additional fans or possibly some Noctua fans.
Cool case but can't find it anywhere.
I was looking at getting a used fortress case and this looks like a way better option.
I wonder if a smaller AIO would be better for airflow.
Thank you for the great review. I'm considering this case with a ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Noctua Edition once available and a Noctua NH-U12A CPU cooler. However am concerned the 4.3 slot GPU will have its fans right up against the mesh (if it fits) and create noisy turbulence. I'm also a little concerned with hot air getting trapped in the compartment above the GPU, i.e. with the mesh top on, though am aware that should already be reflected in temp measurements. Would be a shame to use a GPU whose point it is to be quiet, and have the build be loud. Am also keeping an eye out for a trustworthy review of the Prodigy M 2022, mostly for temps, another low compromise mATX option.
Big Silverstone tax; though, they make damn solid cases!
interesting layout - I like the thought they've put into the routing of the motherboard IO and the PSU mains cable.. those are often somewhat ugly and weird in cases where the mobo is rotated like this.
Alta F1 review?
I wonder how it would handle a Ryzen5/I-5 on an air cooler. You'd have to add fans to the back since according to Silverstone's documentation you won't have clearance for fans on that side bracket. An NVIDIA FE GPU with the rear exhausting fan might do pretty good here too.
That loud fan noise is due to your choice of cooler though, isn't it? Or are you comparing that noise to other builds using that same cooler?
well, i use second pci-e slot for powered-eSATA extension (which is used for 5.25 dvd-rom placed on table, outside of case)
and now, while i'm trying to move from corsair 4000d to something more space-saving it's a pure headache to find a case which will support mATX motherboards and fit full-size 3-3.5 slots graphics card AND these eSATA card
An Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 would have been a better choice for a 360mm AIO.
id really like to know the measurements of the top of the case next to the motherboard io. heat rises and id like to pull that heat out
Hi Leo, is it possible to cut that metal barrier that hold SFX PSU so we can use regular ATX PSU ?
Well it is a nice design, quite interesting.
Could I fit a 240mm radiator on the right side of the case, with the two 120mm fan slots? the website states they dont support it but I just wanted to know what kind of clearances there is for me to jam/dremel mine in anyway. My radiator is 295mm tall. I already have a 360mm cpu and 240mm gpu aio so I'd really like to fit them both in a case as small of a form factor as possible.
I think with some better fans and low profile cooler and probably not a super hot 11900k it would be a great case.
Would you be able to put an atx psu in this case? It looks like it’s just meant for an sfx psu
Shouldn't the water tubes be facing down?
the way you installed the aio, isn't there going to be an air gap on the top of the radiator?
As long as the pump is below the highest point of the radiator it will work fine.
wish the side bracket would take 140mm stuff.
Oh my if someone wanted to go balls to the walls they could fit a ton of rads in that case. Looks like 2x 240mm rads, and a 180mm rad.
Oh i can't wait to see someone do it.
Taking vertical mainboard approach, in a tall presentation case
They made a [proper] chimney stack!?... I want it, but I don't need it
hello friend, can you advise me a system case of a similar type as the ALTA G1M, but for the Arctic Freezer with coolant II-420 ?
Can you fit a 240mm AIO at the back side and keep the right side (front of MoBo) clear from any obstructions?
No. There are dual 3.5in mounts there. There is not enough width for a 120/240 radiator to fit.
I never understood why are all reviewers using so high end and high power components in these small cases. This case is perfect for air cooled i5 and RTX 3060 Ti, or even for AMD APU like 5700G without dedicated GPU, and 240 AIO at max. Add two Nvme drives and you are good to go. You have a perfect, small footprint PC.
(Dual-kit 32 x 2=64 vs Two single-kit 32+32=64) use of two single-kit 32+32=64
will this affect the performance?
can it fit 360mm aio push pull configuration?
Completely disagree about not being a case for custom loop. I hade a custom loop in the FT02 and those 180mm radiators from Alphatech are potent.
This is a very expensive case for something that doesn't have aluminium panels. Probably silverstone spent a lot of money with the tooling to justify this price.
Still I like the design and functionality and probably it pairs well with FE gpus.
You can as well use it with the crosshair impact and use a 5950X and 3090 with it as silverstone makes up to 1200w sfx psus. Besides that temps are quite janky.
Can this case be rotated and used safely in the horizontal position?
Most unlikely! gonna say no to that idea
$99 in my country
Silverstone has produced some legendary cases in there history.
Why are they struggling to produce competitive modernized cases?
oh boy my nr200p is in danger mini itx watercooling and no slim fans in that case
i see that case with 1x 360 and a 180 rad on the bottom and maybe one 240 on the side
@@napalmarsch i don't think a 360 will fit with the 180mm at the bottom i bet you would have to run 2x 240mm because of clearance.
@@kirkkarnage6344 next month i will start my custom loop in it 1x360 and 2x120 rads
My only problem with this case is how big it actually is, rather tall i should say. It's a very tall case, but narrow.
The way you were shifting the case around made the Alta look quite light: is that correct or just your practised ease?
I too would like to see the temperatures of an air cooled build. This case seems to be built for a bottom to top flow. I also wonder if a Founders Edition RTX card might have different, even better, temperatures because of the way that cooler works.
It's all fairly lightweight and there isn't much hardware inside so moving it is easy enough.
I've just bought it and the fan has a really annoying noise, I did some research and apparently is the low quality of the motor fan that makes it, the ticking on idle is quite disturbing and the soultion would be hard, there aren't many 180 mm fans in the market, the Fractal one might not fit being "taller" and I live in the arse of the world in Argentina with extremely high prices when comes to import one.
Not sure if there is any sense of putting AIO in such small case. Air cooler + air tunnel would behave much better.
Missed a massive trick with the plastic, had it been aluminium
I already have an idea for custom loop in this case.
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Mesh is way too restrictive on this boy. Silverstone everyone else is managing less restrictive mesh these days, follow suit x)
me use ft 03 . just set up . lol after 10yo . lol
I have a Silverstone TJ07. All their modern cases look cheap by comparison.
Excellent review as always.
I was hard-pressed to continue beyond the 170/180 US' revelation. What makes this chassis so special that Silverstone feels they can charge more than 130 US for this? Aesthetically, it doesn't even look better than its cheaper competition.
Hard pass. 👎
too bad it can't fit an NH-D15 :(
Introducing a spherical case with 280mm intake fan and support for an external PSU plus Noctua D15 ..........
a new case that isnt the same
Yea, you lost me at the prices.
Using an AIO made skip this video
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which temperature vrm? I am from Russia, my anglish is bad
For a review I am honestly shocked you never tested it with a full airflow build, ridicules and lazy.
hi first
Dual layer or single layer?
GN Steve would slap you silly for recommending a case that runs 17C cooler without panels because of restricted air flow.
GN takes a very different approach to case testing and uses a GTX 1080 with Core i7-6700Kand MSI Core Frozr. 17 degrees C variance with that set-up would be enormous.
It’s almost like Steve could say the earth is flat and people just quote him now (and sometimes mis quote him too). It’s amazing.
What are you talking about concerning temps???? your "spoken" readings didnt adhere to the graphs your showed??? get your facts straight.
Watch the damn video or don't comment, he literally explains this right before showing the graphs 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
@@samgoff5289 Im sorry if I offended you sir, I will stop existing right this moment so your meaningful life can continue!
What a stupid review a airflow case and you chuck in a aio