Is This the ADV Bike We've Been Waiting For? Suzuki V-Strom 800DE First Ride | Hard ADV Test
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2023
- Fast off-road riding, tricky trails and back roads. How does the new 800DE handle it all?
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Gday everyone thanks for watching. If you want to see some rear shots/third person shots, check out Shane's video, ruclips.net/video/fjyjm9Vqx6o/видео.html. He's the bloke on the WR450 sending it
Finally, a reviewer that advertises an off-road test, and takes it on more than a gravel road...
Some of them really are taking the piss
That’s why I follow him, Brett tkacs and swanky cat
Maybe I'm a freak/nerd for this but it's actually appealing to me that this bike is very quiet from the factory. I really don't want to bother others around me when I'm on my bike, particularly around trails etc, so a quiet bike works for me!
Not at all mate. I don't mind a quiet bike nowadays either, but a little bit more would be nice so I can gauge my revs better. Plus that exhaust 🤮
I’m for the quiet bikes too. I’ve kept the stock pipe on my dr, but I like the weight saving of the aftermarket as well. DG supposedly has a pretty quiet pipe for the dr I might try
You'll see more animals too.
You must have an average or above average penile dimension. Unnecessarily loud bikes are childish and should be confiscated and promptly destroyed. And the owner shall pay a hefty fine, and pay for the proper disposal of the remains.
@@lophophorawilliamsii9740 As long as they're not right in front of me....
You have a talent for these reviews. I love how you talk your way through the trail. I feel like I can benefit from you telling me what you are doing while you ride. I know I will never be able to ride a 500lb bike on the stuff you do, but maybe there is hope for me and my DRZ400S 😊
Thanks mate
Excellent review of an ADV bike doing ADV stuff. The 800DE just seems to be much more capable of road than the Transalp. I'm most likely going to get this bike soon.
For me the worst part of the Transalp off-road is that part at the bottom of the engine that sticks out (and by a lot). It feels very delicate on rough terrain, and could also act as an "anchor" if it gets stuck behind a large rock or log. I guess a proper skid plate can mitigate this but, I don't know, feels like a big design flaw for an ADV.
Great to see you out and about, enjoying the new beast!
Great review, exactly the kind I love to watch as you push it just enough to find the limits for us mere mortals on the tracks I love to find, without shortening the life of the vehicle or yourself.
Congrats on the new wheels. Looks awesome
Cheers mate
I can already tell with a few aftermarket changes that this bike will be one of the top all-rounders! Nicely reviewed 🍻
Great video Curtis. Good to see you giving the DE a solid ride to find what it does well and not so well. It certainly is looking like my pick of the litter in coming weeks but am yet to hear the engine with a good exhaust on it. Looking forward to the next adventure!!!
Very keen to get a nice pipe on her
Really enjoyed your review Curtis, You always give a no bullshit and real world view of how it is to ride the bikes, im very interested in this bike as a trade up from the KLR, i will watch with interest
awesome ride and the bike looks very capable..... the more you both get acquainted the better. Its going to be awesome watching you on this. I'm going out on Sunday on the Rally and want to rip round this area - Think i have most of the loop on a GPX file
Great test yet again; I will never be riding like you but it’s encouraging to know what the bikes are capable of.
Thanks mate
Good review . Nice to see the bike ridden on some proper trails . 👍
Cheers mate
Thanks for this mate, I think Suzuki did a great job with this bike. It's everything I've been trying to turn my DL650 into lol.
I rode one in some gentle offroad stuff last weekend and it felt like it belonged.
Liked n subscribed, roll on the mods ❤️🔥
Cheers mate. Looking forward to modding it for sure
Excellent review. The best I've seen so far. Thanks and keep riding! Love the sound! Perfect for European TET, where you don't want to bother people along the trail.
Cheers mate and yes, would be great for sneaking along (maybe not the yellow!) and not annoying people
Thank you mate! Instant sub. As a rabid 990 rider who dreads the day I need to put her to pasture, this video was perfect and gives me hope that I can find a "relatively" old school bike to take her place when I do. That type riding with a little more single track and a little less silt/sand is exactly what I love on my big orange girl, and watching your cockpit view and listening to your play by play was absolutely perfect. Great riding btw, and I can't wait to see you on it again with some new rubber and a bit of suspension tuning. Now if FMF would only make a pipe for it. Cheers from the mountains and deserts of Utah in the States and thanks again for your content.
Thanks mate! I've ridden in Utah once before, absolutely loved it
Awesome video mate. Love your honest and natural narration style.
Go well.
Thanks mate, appreciate it
That was awesome, this was the exact reason I had hoped you’d get this bike. No one I’ve seen is doing this type of content on the bike. Your video will be referenced when showing others the capability of the bike. Fantastic rider!
Thanks mate!
Looks like a nice bike! Sounds like you're working hard on that 509 pounder. Great review and thanks for all the info!
Not gonna lie, she's pretty hard work. Capable, but heavy
Glad you like your new bike and looks like a lot of fun.
Cheers, had a blast
Congrats on the new bike mate! Subscribed 🙂
Cheers mate!
Good to see another SEQ rider on RUclips. Big fan of the vstrom, I was tossing up between it and the Transalp. I don't go as hard as you offroad, so ended up with the Honda.
Great review mate, I love my vstrom 800! I have been riding Hayabusa's for years and Gsxr's before that and I am wrapped with it. Waiting for crash bars before I get to much in the dirt lol. It is the most fun bike I have ever ridden. Again thanks for the great review and will be following to see more of your adventures 👍👍
Mate I'm sweating on some crash bars too!
Awesome test . Thanks dude . Your skill is remarkable as-well . Impressed with those tires you could pull it off
Cheers mate, had a blast
This is a true definition for one adventure bike !
Bike for any chalange.
Well done Suzuki 👍
Good looking bike, looking forward to more content.
I'm going to pick mine up today. I'm in USA. Great video! It's good to see it's capability. I especially like to see the limits - bottoming out and the slower technical parts but I also enjoyed the the fast tracks too man. Yahoo! It's a big adventure bike so it's going to have limits. It was good to see the enduro guys ahead of you showing the terrain and pace very well. But it's dusty there - huh? Anyway, knowing my 2014 Vstrom 1000 - I know this 800 is my dream bike.
Extremely dusty! It has since rained which is good. Enjoy mate, super nice bike
Showing off for the WR almost wiped you out huh? Great video mate! Like the bike, keen to see more.
Haha almost
Great review and congratulations for being the first person to push this bike and use it for its intended purpose. Yes the transalp is for tar babies, but you have shown all what the D E can do. Without trying you will influence sales. Looking forward to the mods. Well done Curtis and enjoy
Thanks mate really appreciate it
Pumped for the new bike Curtis, CRUSH IT!
Crushhhhh!!!!
First, I love that you have the stones to ride that big bike with a bunch of dirt squirts. Second, thanks for jumping on this new Vstrom. I'm really thinking about trading up from my KLR simply because I have to spend HOURS on the road getting to good riding. This thing seems to be the bike we all were hoping the KLR would be.
Could be a really good upgrade. It's much better on the highway
Simply AWESOME
Bravo Suzuki 👍
Wow, impressive and brave riding on a new bike with those tyres. Nice colours. The blue looked good in this vid. I think your 'whiskey throttle' moments are due to RBW - certainly the lightness of it. You'd never have that issue with a cable. Can't wait for you to accessorise and get some better tyres on it :)
Cheers, can't wait to mod it either. I think the whiskey moments are more the extra power off road, the RBW is fantastic on this
@@onthebackwheel Glad to hear the RBW is fantastic - how do you think the RBW and power is compared to the Tuareg and the T7? If the electronics are really good, it wouldn't surprise me. Suzuki is often slagged off for being slow to release new bikes, or add new tech. But they tend to make bikes that really work. The first bike I ever rode with great ABS was a Suzuki. Also, I think Suzuki believes "If it ain't broke don't fix it!" This has allowed them to build great bikes and keep prices low and their components reliable. I hope your amazing riding and putting this Suzy 'through its paces' blows your channel up - you definitely deserve more subs and views. Cheers, CAM from NZ :)
@@actstuntcam thanks Cam. The fueling is perfect and is slightly better than the Aprilia and much better than the Tenere. The Tenere had on/off throttle problems. It has a little more power too. I haven't heard of one unhappy Vstrom owner, they must be doing something right!
Got mine coming soon . Awesome bike and more bang for your buck than all the others
Nice mate, enjoy!
Woo I've waited for this review
thanks for this great review....i owned also an 800DE....fantastic bike🎉
Thanks mate. Hope you are enjoying it
Great chose! The 800DE seems like very capable middle weight. Even if you end up putting some better suspension on it, which you may not need to. Lots of people thin they should have updated the looks. I think it still looks modern. Love the color way. Not a fan of the headlights but that's not a big deal.
I think it looks pretty trick!
Thanks very much. I reckon it's the 1st class underdog that got lost in the Transalp, 701, etc hype.
I think so too
You rode Wolvie well on the first off-road ride!👍
For the first part of the ride I knew you'd be wishing the bike had Motoz tires. I'm impressed that you flogged the VStrom in stock form all the way around, it gives a great base line for how capable the bike is and can become. So yeah, now you can pitch that can. lol I really need to ditch the can and cat on my 890, it's a bit tricky to do in California. A lot of companies won't even ship here because of the ridiculous EPA/Euro "standards".
Bloody California. The 890 sounds great with a decat too
@@onthebackwheel Catalytic converters on motorcycles is ridiculous. The heat and weight of cats is a big issue.
Bikes are killing the planet doncha know.....DR650 been banned from Europe for years.
Friggin sick review brother 👊 really liked how it looks off-road and for sure like a woman supple yet firm is great 👍
Cheers bud 👊
Tyres I would have changed first up even before smelling dirt😉🤙 Great skills & loving it🙌👌
Cheers. I thought about changing them, but wanted to test it as is first
@@onthebackwheel courage, determination & skills👍💪💪
Great video, interested to see the upgrades maybe a nice Delkevic exhaust they sound great on the 650's.
I'll have a look. Not sure if their style is what I'm after
Congratulations, love the bike and I really like to color 😀
Cheers. Loving the colour too
Hey Curtis, with the bigger 17" rear and 21" front, maybe drop the triple clamps 3-4mm through the forks for a little sharper steering without effecting stability too much. I have done it on my slower turning bikes and it makes a noticeable difference. If you are worried about sand stability, if you have room, try moving the back wheel back in the adjusters. You just may need to get a few links longer chain.
I'm going to try a few other things first. I don't want to lose any ground clearance, especially with only 220mm of it!
Hi thanks for the review, you ride quite well on the dirt roads, which gives the bike a real review on it's capabilities that 90% of us would ride, the rest 10% would use a KTM...but we average riders don't race. the bike appeared to handle to bumps well and 1st gear appears low enough, best of all out of the box it looks like it can perform well off road and on.
Its very capable for sure, the suspension is very nice for a stock adventure tourer
Amazing first ride, by all accounts it looks like Suzuki have a great mid adventure bike
Thanks mate. Enjoying it
Amazing route!
Great vid mate! Looking forward to seeing how it goes… on a side note, what mic setup you running… commentary sounds great even at high speeds
Cheers mate. I'm running a dirty old computer microphone with a dead cat on it. Tried a few different set ups and this one works the best
@@onthebackwheel cheers mate. I have just set up with an apple headphone mic on the Action 3…so hoping to get some better audio.
bike looks awesome
Great video mate...still on the fence about thing..waiting to see if any issues pop up after all it is all new design and motor.l looking forward to mods and long-term reliability
Don't worry about reliability it's suzuki...
Can't hurt to wait a bit. If there's something to break I'll probably break it 😂
@@onthebackwheel well let ask your opinion..if you own a t7 would you keep it or sell it and buy the vsrom 800de??
Great review, Thank you! The bike seems well done...but...think I'm still considering the Transalp 750 as my first choice. Like the lower weight of the TA especially.
It's a tricky choice for sure. Definitely try both of you can
I bought the KLR and it was your fault because you did absolutely crazy things with it…..Now this one……but I can’t as I have already a 650XT and I finance both of them…….continue to make me dream with the bike and scenery of Australia. Cheers Matte.
650 to 800 is a good upgrade 😉
@@onthebackwheel tell that to my wife….😅😂
@@FrancoisTX1974 hahahaha
I’m sure many of us are KLR owners and may look for an upgrade one day. It would be amazing if you compare in detail the T7 and CFmoto (more) to the yellow beast. One thing I had hoped for was the tubeless tyres the way they had with previous spoked models. I like the idea of the V being more comfortable, reliable and larger tank. A combination the other 2 can’t offer.
I'll note it down. Tubeless doesn't bother me, but I get it
Nice one. I see they've had a grader through a part of the track. Look forward to seeing you shed a bit of weight & throw some tyres on the big girl. I seem to be chewing through the front MT21 having clocked up a fair bit of freeway miles. Interesting, the 606 rear still looks OK. Thanks for the share brother. 🖖
Good spot. Kind of ruined the track tbh, it'll wear back in though I guess. What KMs have you gotten out of the tyres?
@@onthebackwheel I could only guess 3-4k so far, still plenty left, but the trailing edge of the centre side blocks (pair) are showing disconcerting wear. I could try above Manufacture Recommended pressures when on tar. Centre single blocks are still looking good. Might look for something not so noisy next time round. Pity I can't past a pic here,
@@onthebackwheel Dunlop 603 might be a good fit for the DE, or the Bridgestone Trail Wing TW301/302 look interesting for more tar usage. Bit of a conundrum.
I might keep these in mind for the DRz.... Motoz Tractionator 90 / 90-21 Enduro I / T DOT Front Tyre
@@ShadowVonChadwick look at the starcross hard too, lots of people I ride with rate it the best
Great video! I was wondering why no one had taken it out on trails yet :O
I test rode one last week, but will stay on my 650XT for now. I got my 650XT through some trails last weekend and surprised the KTMs and Teneres that I could keep their pace, but damn, I bottomed out quite often hahaha.
Two of the things I really didn't like compared to the 650XT were 1) The vibrations through my feet. On the 650XT I don't feel any vibrations in my feet, while on the 800DE they were really annoying. 2) The head from the motor. On the 800 DE when riding slow or standing in traffic, the head comes up between my legs, while on the 650XT I feel nothing.
Heat? Its been winter here but I'm going to keep an eye on it. This bottoms out as well, let alone a 650!
@@onthebackwheel Heat, yes, sorry! I found the motor heat is really noticeable on the legs on the 800DE, while on the 650 it seems to go somewhere else hahaha
@@KevinMaschke1 haha yep I get you. Not an issue yet, haven't ridden on any hot days though
Great video, 50lbs more weight than a KLR, but 40 more hp! I'm liking this bike!
It's a good thing. Definitely a nice upgrade from the KLR
Just do more vids of you doing hard riding like this. Will watch just because its interesting to see such a big bike haul ass.
Will do 👊
Thank you for taking this one towards its limits: it taught me a lot about its off-road characteristics. I’m in the Pyrenees Orientale, so some medium off-roading will be key. The only thing that I was worried about with this bike was the weight, but I doubt that I’ll ever have the guts or skill to manhandle it the way you were. So, I might guess that a more circumspect approach wouldn’t knacker me out quite so much? What do you reckon?
It is a little heavy. Depends on the riding you do. I'd look at the Aprilia Tuareg as it's a bit lighter and better off-road
The 800 DE definitely is much better off-road than it appears to be. Been through a trans-pyrénéenne on my Africa Twin last year and 50 km off-road on the 800 DE during the Greenwich Sud this year, the DE is easier to ride. And MUCH better seating for long trips is a must for me. Apart from the Pan America, the best seat I sat on in the past 20 years!
We had proper off-road tyres on it, though: AX41 R
Man after this and big rock motos review I neeeed one, I just hope I can save enough to get one while they're still in dealers 😆
Stock seems pretty good, get on it!
Interesting option
Class
I got a dr650 and I want something that can do long trips but also hit a trail or two if need be as I live way out in the mountains. This is very similar to the terrain out by me.
Good stuff! Have you calculated fuel consumption yet per chance? That’d be a good video, I don’t see one on the tube for the P-strom yet!
This tank (with the off road riding) is at 4.8l per 100. Very happy
Can you imagine what you will be able to do with the bike after you put tires on it? Impressive riding!
Can't wait
I'm afraid to turn OFF TC with those stock tyres...but glad to see you did! Next ride we'll give it a go!!
It's a must off road, you'll love it. Did you try gravel mode
@@onthebackwheel gravel & TC1. It’s been in TC1 most of the time. The hard packed Georgia clay is a lil tricky. I really need some knobby treads. Honestly I need two wheel sets. One for the 50/50 stuff and one for the 90/10 stuff.
@@georgemikodesigns if you get a good set of 50/50 you'll be right. They are really good on the road but will get you through more than you think
The mixtour stock tyres are getting a lil loose in mud and we’ve had 8 inches of rain here, just this year! #KeepThatFrontWheelStraight
@@georgemikodesigns you've done well to ride them in any mud! 👏
I wish we had places like this to ride in middle of the UK. I'd love one of these as a daily but be wasted just on the road
I can think of much worse commute bikes TBH. I'm using it for that and really enjoying it. Smooth, punchy, economical and comfortable
Thank you.
You're welcome
I like high fenders on bikes. Stroms are bikes that just work. Like a KLR, nothing fancy. Just ride.
Great review, many thanks. How do you think it'd compare to a 2017 Africa twin? Similar weight and less power? Cheers.
It feels a little lighter and is definitely smaller. I haven't ridden the new at so can't comment on power, but a little less
It's only the weight making it slow to steer in . Just give it a bit more push/pull on the bars use the weight to your advantage 👍
Definitely the weight, but still a little understeery. The big girl needs to be man handled! haha
Giving it some!!!!!
The black TFT looks helllll good, is there a way to keep the black screen all the time?
Yes mate. You can change it to black, white or auto. I've got it on auto, seems to be working well
Yeah sweet, awesome ride and proper test of the bike! I love that yellow color scheme!!
@@hondaexplorer cheers bud. I dig the yellow too, looks mean
What a great review dude! How do you think a beginner would do with this bike?
On the street it's very easy to manage. Off road it is pretty heavy and I wouldn't recommend it
At 10M52 you say the engine is not noisy enough. Suzuki has understood the trend all over the world towards less noise permitted and you need to consider that, even if it is not the case in OZ. Why would you need more noise? Ols macho stuff, I'm afraid. Little noise, much power sounds perfect to me and good on Suzuki for having understood that the world does not want a bunch of really noisy off road riders riding through some times private land. So think it through! What YOU say has meaning, since you are a you tuber. Young minds are influencable! But, have fun riding! I think you have the best middle weight ADV bike there is!
I don't like a loud bike, but I struggle to hear the revs and since it's a smooth engine it is also harder to gauge them. I explained it a bit more on one of my next videos. But yes, can't stand the obnoxious pit bikes and MX bikes that get around
New 800DE owner here in Kentucky, USA. Great Bike!!! What phone mount do you have in this video? Looks perfect!
Enjoy mate! I use Quad Lock
the steering "slowness" is likely the rake/trail. Has a raked out front end for stability off road/straightline.
Yeah definitely seems to be by design and also the stock tyres. With the preload in the rear increased and different tyres it is better
I wish you could do a head to head shootout between your new V-Strom 800DE and the Transalp 750
If I could get my hands on one I would. Only way here is if I bought one or someone lent me one
Nice review mate. how it going now youve' had it for a while? I looked at one in the shop but have a few concerns. Hows the buffering with the stock windshield? and I noticed a huge gap in front of the tank that could potentially let a lot of air p into your face from the front wheel?
Cheers. Mate I'm really enjoying the bike. There is a little bit of buffering, more from the visor being small. I'm hearing good things about the OEM larger shield. Hessler is also doing a rally screen which looks good
Congrats on the new bike! Did you consider the XL750 Transalp?
I did. Suspension and lack of engine cradle were a bit of a turn off. Seems a bit more road orientated. Lots lighter though...
@@onthebackwheel yeah that is true. Tuareg couldn't sway you enough, rode it myself thought it was a cracking bike. Curious how the ground clearance, suspension and weight will suit your type of riding. Let the mods begin. Big thumbs up
@@olis790 if I didn't have the channel, I'd have a Tuareg. Loved that bike
Hi great review thanks.
By the way I am interested, in the pipe you fit and can you stay legal?
There's only 2 I've found that you can buy now, the Mivv and Akrapovic. Both street legal and I much prefer the Mivv
I've watched your videos on the Tuareg 660 and now the 800 DE. Can you tell us what you think between the two. Better Dirt/Road... comfort and riding manners.
The Tuareg is better off road and more fun to ride in the corners. The 800 is better for commuting and comfort though. Nice bikes for sure
I appreciate that you don’t record your self (portrait) when you’re riding. Some do and i hate that,soooo annoying.
Cheers. I'm going to get another for the odd different angle, but helmet cam is my jam
Very good review. I am concerned of the weight. Not sure how it could be better than a transalp of off road feels heavy and not as flickable. At the least i would have to put lower crash bars and barkbusters and this may add weight. It may even out with the weight loss of a tailtidy and an exhaust.
It's a trade off for sure. Better suspension but more weight. It also has a proper off-road cradle. Weight is very hard to get rid of though...
@@onthebackwheel thats my main concern although i normally just do forest and gravel roads. Very light offroad. Any thoughts on the transalp? By the time i add some protection to the vstrom it may weight 530 pounds or perhaps more.
@@trailrider1980 if you're just doing light off road, I'd go the Transalp (I haven't ridden one so bear that in mind). In Australia it's also $3000 cheaper!
@@onthebackwheel pricing in the us is not out for the transalp yet, i may go suzuki if transalp here is significantly more expensive. Normally hondas in the usa carry a premium price....
@@trailrider1980 yeah right. I think the Suzuki is well priced. It's a super nice bike
How does it compare to the Africa Twin off road? I'm asking since both bikes have similar weight.
I honestly haven't ridden one so could tell you. Going to ride one soon to do a back to back
Can you put on a set of mita e0-7 on the bike and do a review? I know they are pretty expensive but I would love to see how the tires perform on that beautiful bike.
They are on my list, I'll have a think on it. Generally I put something a bit more aggressive on the front
E07plus on my 1050xt good around farm and vineyards plus gravel roads and acceptable on black top have 6000km on them only criticism bit sketchy on wet smooth black top ,off road ride in B mode more turn on throttle for same power ..great vid.
Sounds like the suspension held up!
It's pretty good. Keen to tweak it
It’s so strange that they have a ride a by wire throttle and the same start switch mount as the 1050 but omitted the cruise control. Oh well, I guess I’m waiting for a 800DE exclusive edition next year.
Yeah really bizarre tbh
Looks like the overly long wheelbase makes it hard work off road and more suitable for sidecar racing. If you add a sidecar, you could carry a KX 112 in it to the bush edge😆
Not the worst idea I've heard 😆
Did a quick test ride a few days ago…lot of vibrations in the handle bars and foot pegs…more pronounced on the right side…expected smoother..
Didn't notice anything bad tbh. Heard a couple of complaints before I got it. Will keep an eye on it
hi there!
how would you compare this bike (stock) with the stock T7? which one do you think is better? do you think this suzuki could be as reliable as the T7?
T7 is more capable off road but this is a nicer road bike. I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if it wasn't as reliable
Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda le gambe, grazie.
By all accounts a fantastic bike.Get rid of that front tyre sooner than later.Enjoy.
Hey mate, apologies if you mentioned this and I missed. But how tall are you? If you've come from a 1090 Kato do you know if the 800 strom feels any smaller or lighter?
Cheers
I'm 6ft (183cm). It feels smaller for sure
@@onthebackwheel thanks dude
The Suzuki is not handsome in my mind but that's not why I would buy one. I didn't buy my KLR for the looks, that's for sure. The Vstrom appears to have a lot of potential.
beautiful terrain, what country is that? my and my AT are jealous :D ;
Australia, we are very lucky!
Cool bike. Not a fan of the yello. Black and grey would be more my style. Looks like it rides very well.
I don't mind the grey either, its nice
Hahaha....nice off-road test but I have to be honest, knowing you just BOUGHT that bike, I was really nervous watching! You had the stock tires on, correct?
Yep stock tyres, Dunlop Mixtours. Not good off road at all
@@onthebackwheel Ha-hah, I could tell, with the traction off, it was like you were riding an angry bull in a rodeo!
@@Turco949 haha for sure, was a handful!
Hi. I saw a Facebook post which included some footage of you on this ride from one of the other riders. It was pretty cool but I can’t find it anymore. Any ideas? Also might be good for you to post a link to it if you know where it is. Thanks
I know everyone on the ride, I'll chase it up
@@onthebackwheel I think it was the guy on the 450
I have a question. Can a roadbike handle the offroad ride or it is not recommended?? Thanks
I mean you can make it work... definitely not recommended though
Interestinγ Bike. Don't know why the 17in back rim. It would be nice to have tubelless spoked wheels with cruise control (at least as an option). How do you compare this with the Tuareg?
Agree, I would much prefer an 18 inch rear rim. First thoughts are Tuareg is better, this is a better every day/highway/commute bike though
@@onthebackwheel thank you, ride safe
@@robotech21 you too mate