Thank you, Madame Web was a good movie. Everyone is spoiled now after Infinity War & Endgame. Could it have been better, yes, but it's Madam Web not spider-man. I sat back and just enjoyed it, then at the end my mind was blown. I had no idea who her adult friends were thru that whole movie.
Madame web doesn’t even need to be in a move deck. Dude madame web is great in an Angela deck where you wanna play things on Angela and move them out. Or you can play all your good cards on your Madame web location and move them to different locations as you see fit. Your opponent can never plan their plays accordingly because your plays are never guaranteed.
Yeah, you can even get angela to like 12 in a location and then move it away on turn 6 if you think a shang chi or shadow king is coming. Madame Web sounds broken, I think they will eventually nerf her
@@paul-juniorblack6151 Well then you wouldn't be able to move cards off of Angela so they have a point. You can move your big angela on turn 6, allowing you to contest locations that would be somewhat unexpected too. I mean you could just abandon the location that the opponent has already committed to beat to muscle one of the other lanes
@@ttg_dav3418this is just not true lmao. this game makes plenty plenty of money from whales who will never let their account fall behind. no where near dieing in 3 months or even a year lol.
Not really a fan of it. They should keep the art as a Spider-Man variant, but they should give the card text to a new character. There's plenty of characters in the Marvel mythos that we don't need to start repeating characters
about Araña, maybe the [actvate] is a button that apears when you click a card to see it, so it wont conflict with the moving of cards effect because in that situation you have to hold the card and not tap to see it up close
i read symspidy like it will reactivate the ability, i think reveal in this case means the act of turning the card over, so if it merges with a cable you will get a 2nd cable hit.
I think Symbiote Spidey works with all cards it doesn’t say anything about being restricted to just on reveal cards and it is talking about when a card reveals itself by turning over which all cards do. He seems to be some kinda Abs man/Mystique/Phoenix Force hybrid since he can copy and replicate the effects of on reveals , ongoing cards or any other cards since it copies the text plus adds their power to it.
If I remember correctly, they tried to make this mechanic with Kitty Pride, but it bugged the whole game 😂 that's why they give her for free to compensate Nice to see that the developers fixed that mechanic
@@adriel.013 It's different, original Kitty could be picked up and placed in your hand, but it's possible that lessons learned from that led to this keyword.
3- magik 4- scarlet spider 5- hulkbuster + venom 6- Phoenix force + activate + something 7- moves + activate the new one + zola the old one Obviously not fantastic but I think there are fun combos here. Also symbiote spiderman is incredible killmonger protection in a phoenix force deck depending on which card remains in play. One of the scariest aspects of turning your torch into the win con in pf is killmonger late just absolutely crushing you. Now you can play pf on 4, get the move and merge it into the symbiote on 5, It's now 20 power before any other move shenanigans (40 with ghost spider on 5, 26 with hulkbuster or 24 with forge) and completely protected from killmonger.
I think Symbiote spiderman works how you described for bother on reveal and activate cards. If he merges with an on reveal card the ability goes off again, and if he merges with an activate card you have the ability to activate that card again. Sounds bonkers
I think the symbiote spider is like iron lad + Venom, doesn't take the power just the ability so it can be an ongoing, reveal, a ability like sunspot, and the new activate. I think the wording there is like you said is there to tell you that ability is being played again if you merged with the lowest card there that might have the reveal etc.
Here's my quick thoughts on these cards also. Arana: Most of the time, a kind of generic Move card. I think people personally overrate how hard it is to move right (only 2 move cards, in Iron Fist and Heimdall, move left specifically, compared to 3 cards, in Ghost Spider, Cloak, and Dr Strange that move to the location they're played), but the +2 is really nice. This is basically a 2/4 with additional upside in generic decks, so this is already a good generalist card, but this also makes Human Torch into a 1/8. Also also, this combos really well with Phoenix Force Multiple Man to get a bonus move. This also lets you do Arana into Shuri into Nimrod, move the Nimrod right with Arana and give it +2, making it 14, then Zola for unShangable 56 power spread out in 2 locations. This seems like a really good card to me. Madame Web: This card is also likely good, but not in the same way I thought Arana might be. This card seems to live and die by how good Move is moreso than Arana, who's a 2/4 who lets you move into restricted locations and also works in Phoenix Force Nimrod stuff. I'm still not sure Move will be good, but it's not her fault if it isn't. That being said... this card has to mean we're getting a Hercules rework, right? Because Madame Web is half the price of Hercules, let's you pick where the card moves, and isn't blocked by your opponent's Jeff or Vision. Madame Web is a straight upgrade over Hercules in every conceivable way, even moreso after the Herc nerf with the rework of Move mechanics. Scarlet Spider: This is mostly another generic 4/10 along the lines of Crossbones or Cull Obsidian. Less power than Ms Marvel, but not conditional. Could work in Cerebro 5. That being said, this is my least favorite card of the month because it's just not terribly exciting, but it's likely better than Symbiote Spider-Man imo. Silver Sable: This is probably just the new best 1 cost imo. This is basically a 1/3 that also disrupts the opponent. That's pretty much the best late-game 1 cost outside of maybe Nico. Other good 1 drops like Nebula and Kitty are generally worse the later you draw them, but Silver Sable still seems to retain a lot of value unless you play her specifically on turn 6. Symbiote Spider-Man: This is really weird. This is like a fusion dance of Grandmaster and Hulkbuster? Neither of those are super great cards, though, so I don't have the greatest expectations for this. If you put this on a Human Torch or Deadpool, the On Reveal is wasted, and if you put it on an On Reveal card, it's jus big Grandmaster. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't have the highest expectations for this. This is imo the worst card of the month unless I'm missing something.
I was going to say that maybe Activate works by activating cards with no keywords, like The Collector and Nightcrawler. It "activates" them by either triggering their effect as if it happened, or gives them another use of their effect. But after seeing Symbiote Spider-Man's text I'm not so sure now...
One one hand I’m hyped because Silver Sable is finally emerging from the depths of the files like Blink did 2 months ago and most of these other new characters look great as cards, but on the other hand I’m pissed that Symbiote Spider-Man is a card at all. IT’S JUST NORMAL SPIDER-MAN IN A DIFFERENT SUIT! IT’S THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER! That slot could’ve gone to someone actually new like SP//dr, Spider-Man Noir, Spider-Punk, Spiders-Man, Spider-Man India, Spider-Man UK etc. etc.
Activate could be good but part of the charm of marvel snap is the lack of control after playing your cards. Timing is critical from deck building all the way to the individual turn decisions. This activate ability, if it allows you to trigger the ability when you want, eliminates some of the strategic decision making since you can do it "when you want".
Idk about that... giving players more control over there cards would only benefit strategy. it reduces rng slightly as your not forced to play a card on curve simply because you don't want it to interfere with what your going to draw later.
Symbiote Spider-Man seems like it's meant for everything _except_ On Reveal. Since it says copy the text, I would expect it to work with Ongoing/Activate and cards like Collector that don't use a keyword. On Reveal support would be busted.
i think the wording on symbiote spiderman is specifically for on reveals to redo them as they merge. iron lad and abs only say 'copy its text' because they are revealing so the on reveal is still happening and triggers. however here it says 'like it just revealed' which to me sounds more like as if when the activate happens, it eats the card, then turns around facedown, and then reveals as if its a newly played card so the on reveal does happen. i think of it as a on board targeted iron lad. we will see tho. great video and insight on these new effects !
If Activate were dependent on another card I would have assumed that Madame Web's ability would just be activating the spider cards. I think it will be more like a one time tap ability. I also think Sable's will be changed to affect a more specific card, possibly "Steal 2 Power from highest cost card of your opponent's deck."
I believe “activate” will be once before every turn before moves are made. You could put Hercules on another location and have Araña keep hitting cards against Hercules.
once before every turn is just broken af. Even without the move component Arana would be a 2/10 with targeted move. I think it'll only work once like Jeff and Nocturne move.
Card can be used with just texts even without using a new term "Activate"..like example "tap the card once played to give last card played +2 power and move the right". Important to mention "once played" so that if it is still in your hand, ability wont activate if you tap the card.
My immediate thought about this was this both counters and strengthened Jean Grey at the same time. Also, an Angela package could be super fun too, which wouldn't require you to run move cards since you usually do like to move with Angela.
@chazzerine7650 That's one style of play for her. The other is to just disrupt where they play at. Only for you to have the advantage of moving what you have away from Jean to spread power. If you're strictly thinking of Mojo + Jean, yea the combo sucks. But there are multiple avenues to look at things from my guy.
My interpretation is that the symbiote Spider-Man will work with on reveal effects. I mean it’s symbiote SPIDER-MAN, it makes sense that it would work with the original Spider-Man
It would be cool if Heimdall got a Nico style effect added to his card so that each turn he changes whether he is going to move your deck left or right.
If activate works like how you're speculating here, it would be fun to have them go through and update other on reveals to be activate. Stuff like forge, deathlok, maybe a cheaper costed war machine could all be interesting
Considering that this is a Ben Brode game, I think “Activate” is synonymous with “at the start of next turn.” That would make the most sense to me, because I think tapping the card goes against the current ethos of snap
@@jared17ds Well Ben Brode has stated that they don't want to have a "targeting mode" like mobile hearthstone, and I think that activate tapping is approaching that zone. Not sure how I personally feel about it, but I see where people are coming from
We already have Howard Duck that has a tap based ability and Activate cards we've seen already still don't make you choose a target so I think it works fine like that
I wonder how many cards are gonna get changed into "Activate" instead of what they currently are. This is something I wanted for a while where certain effects would activate a turn later instead of right when I play them.
I believe the Activate keyword was brought due to the movement changes they made last patch for consistency. It feels like a priority thing. Could also be a click to activate too after being played ig. I also wonder if they are going to change how ongoing and move works.
Finally, a new gameplay feature! Now, there's a whole new dimension of card design ready to be explored! I'm designing Marvel Snap cards for all of the Robot Masters from the Mega Man video game franchise, both because of my love for it and for its heavy Marvel inspiration. Now that Activate has been revealed, I have a new tool to use in my designs!
I love Symbiote Spider-Man. He has so many great applications in Phoenix Force decks! He can Merge with Nimrod and maybe you don't draw Phoenix and instead you Merge Multiple Man with Symbiote Spider + Arana also seems to fit in this puzzle, since after the merge is happening the card counts as the last played and then you can buff multiple man by 2 power and move him and so on. So many great combos in this deck 😍. Also one pretty sick move with human torch. You play arana turn 2, human torch + ghost spider turn 3, then in turn 4 you move the 4 power torch to a solo lane with doctor strange, turn 5 play spider symbiote on that lane, turn 6 first activate spider symbiote to merge with torch, then arana him to a solo lane on the right to then arnim zola him back to the other lanes. Obviously you will not often get this set up and also you need to play your cards very precisely in order for the combo to work, but that's something that is possible. So in my eyes these two cards will fit perfectly in phoenix force and will give this deck more options to win. By the way, you can play the ghost spider + doctor strange + torch combo all on turn 4.
I hope we get more cards for other archetypes and keywords like these. I feel like this stuff like this can actually make SNAP feel a little more skill oriented and competitive while still being simple like it wants to be.
It’s crazy to me that they didn’t put Spot into that wave of cards. He seems so oblivious to me as move card. On Reveal: Next turn you can move two of your cards.
I'm excited and concerned for activate. I'm glad they're adding something new to the game, but I hope they have buffs in mind for existing cards as counters. I don't mind the spotlight system as much as many, but having new counters behind spotlights will be very frustrating for a lot of players. The only counter that exists today that I can think of is Red Guardian and I guess Spider-Ham. I hope whatever the Cosmo equivalent for Activate must be played before the Activate card is revealed as opposed to preventing an unused Activate ability after the Activate card is already on the board.
I think symbiote will trigger on reveals because otherwise it's text would just read "copy the text" and the as if it revealed would be gratuitous. additionally it merges with the lowest cost card, so it has a slightly different use case than absorbing man
With Cassandra Nova, and Silver Sable coming, I’m hoping we get some kind of card that will mill your own deck outside of blob. “Absorb the top two cards of your deck and distribute the power evenly among all cards in play” would be cool. Because I think sable and cass nova will be kind of busted.
My first assumption to "Activate" is that they activate before reveals. So if you activate Araña, you'd have to do it on T4, if you played Vulture on T3. But I could be wrong. It feels a bit unintuitive, in my opinion, to hit activate, then you get on reveals, then the activates do their thing, but we'll find out soon.
I'm hoping activate is like you said, that you press a button to use it once during play, and then apply that mechanic to cards like Captain America, Punisher, and Adam Warlock to make them viable.
@regiskillbin Wasn't that (the activate ability) kinda what they were originally going for with Kitty Pryde? Wasn't she originally a card that you could bring back to your hand? If so, maybe there will be cards that can actuvate more than once? Also, and i apologize for being nitpicky, but it's Aran- ya. Not arana. The ~ over the N gives it the yuh or ya sound
Would be cool if the activate ability spent like 1 energy per use. So it could be used multiple times, but you’d have to spend energy in order to do it
I think activate is going to work like Jeff, Noc, Vision, and PF. Basically you can only move/use their effect, in this case activating it, in the beginning of next turn.
I think that Symbiote Spider-Man Does work with On Reveals (and Activates) which yes would make it a very strong card but that feels irrelevant to whether or not it makes sense when we're talking about playtest cards especially this far in the future, I just think the wording specifically calling out "Like it just revealed" and the fact that Mystique and Rogue trigger On Reveals if they copy them seem like it's pointing to it working with On Reveals. Also specifically with your Black Panther Example I would assume that Activate happens before cards are revealed so Symbiote Spider-Man>Black Panther wouldn't work on turn 5 you'd have to wait till turn 6 to Activate it and also I assume that the Taskmaster follow up wouldn't work at all because Taskmaster would be looking for Black Panther but only Symbiote Spider-Man would be on the field so you'd have to use Arnim Zola, which while strong seems no more dangerous than Wong>Panther>Zola.
I’m 99% sure symbiote Spider-Man will also work with on reveals. It’s the season pass card and no other activates will be out when it releases. They won’t release a season pass card without a way to meaningfully use its ability
The main difference with activate would be that it probably would have to flip onto the board first, then following turns, you can play cards, then tap the Activate card to sequence how the turn will play out. Doubt you'd be able to Activate on the same turn they're played, but who knows. Also, what's the counter to stop these cards? Will there be a "Cosmo" type that will 'Disable' all Activates Next Turn (This turn/at this lane/etc)? It's an interesting Mechanic and I'm excited to see the game move forward with new Keywords!
You know how you can click/tap on a card when its face down to see it again I suspect when you place a card down right before you select end turn you can tap the card and Activate is there. So you would have to do that before pressing end turn but while its face down
If this "Activate" keyword works like I think it'll, this symbiote spiderman will probably revive Black Panter with Zola, doing what Shuri was intending to do, but way better.
Wonder if activate happens the first time your opponent plays a card at that location, like negasonic - that would make them much less powerful since the opponent decides when/if to activate your cards
I'm sure activate NEED to have been revealed already, because it would be crazy in the engineer side to make them available in the turn they're played, also all the ones shown here are 4 or less
If Activate can only trigger the turn after being played, Symbiote Spider-Man would literally only be able to use merged Activate abilities on turn 6 after being played on turn 4. I feel like that alone is evidence that it might work the turn the card is played.
I think on reveals will trigger with Symbiote Spidey. ‘As if it’ could refer to itself, not the card it’s merging with. So you activate it, it merges and treats the text like Spidey just revealed. So it’s activated first, revealed second. I can see your interpretation but it’s certainly something they need to clarify. Bad wording either way.
Scarlet Spider makes me feel like Activate MUST have some condition other than just "click on it". A 4/10 baseline, potentially duplicating any stat buffs you can put on it, and with the only downside being that you have to play it before turn 6? That seems too busted to be even considered as-is. I know datamines change, but even for a preliminary version that seems like it's pushing it too far.
So what big bad are they going to drop with basically Odins text but for activation cards.( all cards that have been “activated” are reset, letting these cards be activated again) it just makes the most sense as a card
Also Im not so sure about the interpretation of the symbiote spider-man, feels like "just revealed" is meant to say this will behave like the card is being revealed. I think it is meant to do what you are saying, but I think its also meant to re-trigger on-reveal affects or as you said one-time use triggered abilities like negasonic. I assume this was the wording the settled on for it to be like you just played the card again... seems weird it would copy everything except on reveal abilities... but the wording is clunkier than the average card from them for sure so who knows.
Silver sable looks good I’m thrown off by her ability saying steal and then Cassandra’s says drain so I thought drain was going to be a steal power type of effect.
When the "activate" keyword" resolves is going to be huge too. If its at the start of a turn, end of a turn, before/after on reveals will make a HUGE difference to the effects power. For instance, you play scarlet spiderman, buff with namora, then play odin on namora and activate the SS .. does it split before or after the second namora buff goes off ???
Grandmaster is kind of awkward as an On Reveal. I wonder if they'll change it to Activate. Maybe Phoenix Force, too. PF could be made a 2-cost Activate or something that you could work as Shang Chi insurance or something 🤔
Madame Web is so good. You can just move ANY card to another location?!? Araña is targeted, power crept Ghost-Spider. Scarlet Spider seams kinda weak at 4/5. This is a power buff candidate. Silver Sable is a net 1/5, that’s probably pretty good in bounce decks. Symbiote Spider has the potential to be VERY good depending on how the effect will work for on reveal cards.
I’m going to say a sentence no one in the last year has said… “Madam Web is looking pretty damn good”
Tbh I really liked that movie
Yea that move was actually good
@@BlackDragonRuler *movie (?)
Thank you, Madame Web was a good movie. Everyone is spoiled now after Infinity War & Endgame. Could it have been better, yes, but it's Madam Web not spider-man. I sat back and just enjoyed it, then at the end my mind was blown. I had no idea who her adult friends were thru that whole movie.
Stop the cap 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@CoryTheDestroyer
Madame web doesn’t even need to be in a move deck.
Dude madame web is great in an Angela deck where you wanna play things on Angela and move them out.
Or you can play all your good cards on your Madame web location and move them to different locations as you see fit. Your opponent can never plan their plays accordingly because your plays are never guaranteed.
Yeah, you can even get angela to like 12 in a location and then move it away on turn 6 if you think a shang chi or shadow king is coming. Madame Web sounds broken, I think they will eventually nerf her
You would more like move out Angela than move out the other stuff
And hope summers
@@paul-juniorblack6151 Well then you wouldn't be able to move cards off of Angela so they have a point. You can move your big angela on turn 6, allowing you to contest locations that would be somewhat unexpected too. I mean you could just abandon the location that the opponent has already committed to beat to muscle one of the other lanes
When these cards will be added to the game we will definitely get an All-spider deck video from Regis and I will definitely watch it.
If they don't fix the card acquisition method in say 3 months this game won't exist till then
@@ttg_dav3418
We're getting a free card next month so changes are already underway.
I wanted to make a Spider-verse deck since Spider-Versus. Adding more will make the deck Spider-verse exclusive!
@@ttg_dav3418this is just not true lmao. this game makes plenty plenty of money from whales who will never let their account fall behind. no where near dieing in 3 months or even a year lol.
@@ttg_dav3418 that’s funny 😆
Symbiote spider-man is the first time they give a whole different card to a version of a character already in the game.
Doesn’t hulk buster technically count?
ehhhh ig.
Not really a fan of it. They should keep the art as a Spider-Man variant, but they should give the card text to a new character. There's plenty of characters in the Marvel mythos that we don't need to start repeating characters
Actually this is the symbiote per se. There is no Peter Parker nor Eddie Brock inside. Technically speaking it’s another character.
@@willforrest-king I think you are right, but I don't know why it feels different.
Very excited to see Move finally get some much needed love😮
I wonder if they might eventually change a few of the other cards to be "Activate" as well. Ghost Spider and Iron Fist come to mind.
@@silasmarrs1409 that would make move too OP
Scarlet spider into Namora is kinda crazy too.
Scarlet also discounts Mocking bird.
Also good in an Iron Lad/Howard deck.
Also it makes easier to get Skaar to 0 cost, so many possibilities
@@macross3745 mmm true true
Cosmo 😂
Howard 💀
Madame web could legit make move a good archetype at last.
Very interesting how in most other cards game they release a new keyword every expansion, and in Marvel Snap a new keyword could be a big gamechanger
about Araña, maybe the [actvate] is a button that apears when you click a card to see it, so it wont conflict with the moving of cards effect because in that situation you have to hold the card and not tap to see it up close
i read symspidy like it will reactivate the ability, i think reveal in this case means the act of turning the card over, so if it merges with a cable you will get a 2nd cable hit.
I think Symbiote Spidey works with all cards it doesn’t say anything about being restricted to just on reveal cards and it is talking about when a card reveals itself by turning over which all cards do. He seems to be some kinda Abs man/Mystique/Phoenix Force hybrid since he can copy and replicate the effects of on reveals , ongoing cards or any other cards since it copies the text plus adds their power to it.
About time we got these activate type mechanics. I’ve always wondered why we didn’t have any cards that we could choose when to activate their effect
If I remember correctly, they tried to make this mechanic with Kitty Pride, but it bugged the whole game 😂 that's why they give her for free to compensate
Nice to see that the developers fixed that mechanic
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It's different, original Kitty could be picked up and placed in your hand, but it's possible that lessons learned from that led to this keyword.
I believe activate is a card trigger but unlike on reveal it can only trigger any turn besides the turn it’s played
For balance reasons (to avoid Activate being a better On Reveal), it would need to become triggerable on corresponding turns.
3- magik
4- scarlet spider
5- hulkbuster + venom
6- Phoenix force + activate + something
7- moves + activate the new one + zola the old one
Obviously not fantastic but I think there are fun combos here.
Also symbiote spiderman is incredible killmonger protection in a phoenix force deck depending on which card remains in play. One of the scariest aspects of turning your torch into the win con in pf is killmonger late just absolutely crushing you. Now you can play pf on 4, get the move and merge it into the symbiote on 5, It's now 20 power before any other move shenanigans (40 with ghost spider on 5, 26 with hulkbuster or 24 with forge) and completely protected from killmonger.
that wont work like that.
Can't wait for the 50 Shades variant of Madame Web. 😂 Scarlet is looking damn good for C5, though.
Now today's wording change for Odin from "activate" to "repeat" makes sense
I think Symbiote spiderman works how you described for bother on reveal and activate cards. If he merges with an on reveal card the ability goes off again, and if he merges with an activate card you have the ability to activate that card again. Sounds bonkers
I think the symbiote spider is like iron lad + Venom, doesn't take the power just the ability so it can be an ongoing, reveal, a ability like sunspot, and the new activate. I think the wording there is like you said is there to tell you that ability is being played again if you merged with the lowest card there that might have the reveal etc.
Here's my quick thoughts on these cards also.
Arana: Most of the time, a kind of generic Move card. I think people personally overrate how hard it is to move right (only 2 move cards, in Iron Fist and Heimdall, move left specifically, compared to 3 cards, in Ghost Spider, Cloak, and Dr Strange that move to the location they're played), but the +2 is really nice. This is basically a 2/4 with additional upside in generic decks, so this is already a good generalist card, but this also makes Human Torch into a 1/8. Also also, this combos really well with Phoenix Force Multiple Man to get a bonus move. This also lets you do Arana into Shuri into Nimrod, move the Nimrod right with Arana and give it +2, making it 14, then Zola for unShangable 56 power spread out in 2 locations. This seems like a really good card to me.
Madame Web: This card is also likely good, but not in the same way I thought Arana might be. This card seems to live and die by how good Move is moreso than Arana, who's a 2/4 who lets you move into restricted locations and also works in Phoenix Force Nimrod stuff. I'm still not sure Move will be good, but it's not her fault if it isn't. That being said... this card has to mean we're getting a Hercules rework, right? Because Madame Web is half the price of Hercules, let's you pick where the card moves, and isn't blocked by your opponent's Jeff or Vision. Madame Web is a straight upgrade over Hercules in every conceivable way, even moreso after the Herc nerf with the rework of Move mechanics.
Scarlet Spider: This is mostly another generic 4/10 along the lines of Crossbones or Cull Obsidian. Less power than Ms Marvel, but not conditional. Could work in Cerebro 5. That being said, this is my least favorite card of the month because it's just not terribly exciting, but it's likely better than Symbiote Spider-Man imo.
Silver Sable: This is probably just the new best 1 cost imo. This is basically a 1/3 that also disrupts the opponent. That's pretty much the best late-game 1 cost outside of maybe Nico. Other good 1 drops like Nebula and Kitty are generally worse the later you draw them, but Silver Sable still seems to retain a lot of value unless you play her specifically on turn 6.
Symbiote Spider-Man: This is really weird. This is like a fusion dance of Grandmaster and Hulkbuster? Neither of those are super great cards, though, so I don't have the greatest expectations for this. If you put this on a Human Torch or Deadpool, the On Reveal is wasted, and if you put it on an On Reveal card, it's jus big Grandmaster. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't have the highest expectations for this. This is imo the worst card of the month unless I'm missing something.
I was going to say that maybe Activate works by activating cards with no keywords, like The Collector and Nightcrawler. It "activates" them by either triggering their effect as if it happened, or gives them another use of their effect.
But after seeing Symbiote Spider-Man's text I'm not so sure now...
Silver Sable would be the first good 1/3 in Cerebro3 decks
Araña means spider in spanish :)
So yeah, Spider.
We better get an Araña Discoteca variant.
One one hand I’m hyped because Silver Sable is finally emerging from the depths of the files like Blink did 2 months ago and most of these other new characters look great as cards, but on the other hand I’m pissed that Symbiote Spider-Man is a card at all. IT’S JUST NORMAL SPIDER-MAN IN A DIFFERENT SUIT! IT’S THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER! That slot could’ve gone to someone actually new like SP//dr, Spider-Man Noir, Spider-Punk, Spiders-Man, Spider-Man India, Spider-Man UK etc. etc.
Activate could be good but part of the charm of marvel snap is the lack of control after playing your cards. Timing is critical from deck building all the way to the individual turn decisions. This activate ability, if it allows you to trigger the ability when you want, eliminates some of the strategic decision making since you can do it "when you want".
Idk about that... giving players more control over there cards would only benefit strategy. it reduces rng slightly as your not forced to play a card on curve simply because you don't want it to interfere with what your going to draw later.
The "just revealed" part I think is talking about the card, like the card was just revealed, so the effect "on reveal" would go of again
Symbiote Spider-Man seems like it's meant for everything _except_ On Reveal. Since it says copy the text, I would expect it to work with Ongoing/Activate and cards like Collector that don't use a keyword. On Reveal support would be busted.
i think the wording on symbiote spiderman is specifically for on reveals to redo them as they merge. iron lad and abs only say 'copy its text' because they are revealing so the on reveal is still happening and triggers. however here it says 'like it just revealed' which to me sounds more like as if when the activate happens, it eats the card, then turns around facedown, and then reveals as if its a newly played card so the on reveal does happen. i think of it as a on board targeted iron lad. we will see tho. great video and insight on these new effects !
Activate cards sound like the rewind button on kang the conqueror how you push the button and it rewinds
If Activate were dependent on another card I would have assumed that Madame Web's ability would just be activating the spider cards. I think it will be more like a one time tap ability. I also think Sable's will be changed to affect a more specific card, possibly "Steal 2 Power from highest cost card of your opponent's deck."
I believe “activate” will be once before every turn before moves are made.
You could put Hercules on another location and have Araña keep hitting cards against Hercules.
once before every turn is just broken af. Even without the move component Arana would be a 2/10 with targeted move. I think it'll only work once like Jeff and Nocturne move.
That would definitely be too overpowered 😅
I think it activating before the turns is best. Otherwise things become really weird once Activate cards get hit with Red Guardian.
@@chazzerine7650 and maybe it will be once only and the text will grey out like Regis said.
I really hope the “activate” effect will be exactly how you described. It would bring so much skill-play into the game 🔥
Card can be used with just texts even without using a new term "Activate"..like example "tap the card once played to give last card played +2 power and move the right".
Important to mention "once played" so that if it is still in your hand, ability wont activate if you tap the card.
Madam Webb with Jean Gray sounds super fun
My immediate thought about this was this both counters and strengthened Jean Grey at the same time. Also, an Angela package could be super fun too, which wouldn't require you to run move cards since you usually do like to move with Angela.
Really? Other than on turn 6 it seems like counter synergy to me.
@@chazzerine7650 The text reads *YOU* get move them, not the opponent. You can freely move while the opponent is forced to clog a lane.
@@sgty88 I’m aware, but you WANT to fill Jean Grey’s lane so you can get the ability to play elsewhere.
@chazzerine7650 That's one style of play for her. The other is to just disrupt where they play at. Only for you to have the advantage of moving what you have away from Jean to spread power. If you're strictly thinking of Mojo + Jean, yea the combo sucks. But there are multiple avenues to look at things from my guy.
My interpretation is that the symbiote Spider-Man will work with on reveal effects. I mean it’s symbiote SPIDER-MAN, it makes sense that it would work with the original Spider-Man
It would be cool if Heimdall got a Nico style effect added to his card so that each turn he changes whether he is going to move your deck left or right.
If activate works like how you're speculating here, it would be fun to have them go through and update other on reveals to be activate. Stuff like forge, deathlok, maybe a cheaper costed war machine could all be interesting
Considering that this is a Ben Brode game, I think “Activate” is synonymous with “at the start of next turn.” That would make the most sense to me, because I think tapping the card goes against the current ethos of snap
How does it go against the game?
@@jared17ds Well Ben Brode has stated that they don't want to have a "targeting mode" like mobile hearthstone, and I think that activate tapping is approaching that zone. Not sure how I personally feel about it, but I see where people are coming from
You wouldn't use the word activate for a passive effect. Most likely something you need to activate, after it's been revealed
@@martinsanchez3458 yeah that would also work, I jsut don’t think it’s a tap effect. Unless the devs suddenly changed their design philosophy
We already have Howard Duck that has a tap based ability and Activate cards we've seen already still don't make you choose a target so I think it works fine like that
I’ve been waiting for Silver Sable for so long since she’s my fav spider-man villain. She did not dissapoint!
My guess is that activate effects will resolve at the beginning of the turn like move but I'm not sure if it will happen before or after move
I wonder how many cards are gonna get changed into "Activate" instead of what they currently are. This is something I wanted for a while where certain effects would activate a turn later instead of right when I play them.
Excited for a new keyword. Madame Web was such a needed card, I've been recommending a card like that for a while.
I don't think this was mentioned but I could see Silver Sable --> Selene being solid for Junk and Mill decks.
I assumed the Symbiote works like a Hulkbuster/Odin combo. Combines and reactivates but also includes ongoings and all that other jazz.
Buffing Multiple Man with a Hulkbuster and/or a Forge and getting it on Madam Web could go pretty hard. +5/6/8 to another location each turn.
I believe the Activate keyword was brought due to the movement changes they made last patch for consistency. It feels like a priority thing. Could also be a click to activate too after being played ig. I also wonder if they are going to change how ongoing and move works.
Seeing a Namora into Scarlet Spider line in the near future
“NEW KEYWORD”
Me: *click*
symbiote spiderman feels like it undoes deactivation. so like, if enchatress kills your ongoings, you can turn the ongoing back on?
Looks like crazy powerful cards
Finally, a new gameplay feature! Now, there's a whole new dimension of card design ready to be explored! I'm designing Marvel Snap cards for all of the Robot Masters from the Mega Man video game franchise, both because of my love for it and for its heavy Marvel inspiration. Now that Activate has been revealed, I have a new tool to use in my designs!
I love Symbiote Spider-Man. He has so many great applications in Phoenix Force decks! He can Merge with Nimrod and maybe you don't draw Phoenix and instead you Merge Multiple Man with Symbiote Spider + Arana also seems to fit in this puzzle, since after the merge is happening the card counts as the last played and then you can buff multiple man by 2 power and move him and so on. So many great combos in this deck 😍. Also one pretty sick move with human torch. You play arana turn 2, human torch + ghost spider turn 3, then in turn 4 you move the 4 power torch to a solo lane with doctor strange, turn 5 play spider symbiote on that lane, turn 6 first activate spider symbiote to merge with torch, then arana him to a solo lane on the right to then arnim zola him back to the other lanes. Obviously you will not often get this set up and also you need to play your cards very precisely in order for the combo to work, but that's something that is possible. So in my eyes these two cards will fit perfectly in phoenix force and will give this deck more options to win. By the way, you can play the ghost spider + doctor strange + torch combo all on turn 4.
Symbiote Spider-Man eating Nightcrawler or Jeff can probably also "move once" again as well.
I hope we get more cards for other archetypes and keywords like these. I feel like this stuff like this can actually make SNAP feel a little more skill oriented and competitive while still being simple like it wants to be.
It’s crazy to me that they didn’t put Spot into that wave of cards. He seems so oblivious to me as move card.
On Reveal: Next turn you can move two of your cards.
I'm excited and concerned for activate. I'm glad they're adding something new to the game, but I hope they have buffs in mind for existing cards as counters. I don't mind the spotlight system as much as many, but having new counters behind spotlights will be very frustrating for a lot of players.
The only counter that exists today that I can think of is Red Guardian and I guess Spider-Ham. I hope whatever the Cosmo equivalent for Activate must be played before the Activate card is revealed as opposed to preventing an unused Activate ability after the Activate card is already on the board.
Madame Web + Mystique + any card that procs with movement, call that Marvel Tennis
I agree that I think Activate is one-time use. My biggest question is how it interacts with card ordering.
I think symbiote will trigger on reveals because otherwise it's text would just read "copy the text" and the as if it revealed would be gratuitous. additionally it merges with the lowest cost card, so it has a slightly different use case than absorbing man
With scarlet spider it could be that the clones are able to be activated. So once they been activated then it grays out.
Symbiote spiderman probably works like iron Ladd
With Cassandra Nova, and Silver Sable coming, I’m hoping we get some kind of card that will mill your own deck outside of blob. “Absorb the top two cards of your deck and distribute the power evenly among all cards in play” would be cool. Because I think sable and cass nova will be kind of busted.
My first assumption to "Activate" is that they activate before reveals. So if you activate Araña, you'd have to do it on T4, if you played Vulture on T3. But I could be wrong.
It feels a bit unintuitive, in my opinion, to hit activate, then you get on reveals, then the activates do their thing, but we'll find out soon.
I'm hoping activate is like you said, that you press a button to use it once during play, and then apply that mechanic to cards like Captain America, Punisher, and Adam Warlock to make them viable.
@regiskillbin Wasn't that (the activate ability) kinda what they were originally going for with Kitty Pryde? Wasn't she originally a card that you could bring back to your hand? If so, maybe there will be cards that can actuvate more than once?
Also, and i apologize for being nitpicky, but it's Aran- ya. Not arana. The ~ over the N gives it the yuh or ya sound
Would be cool if the activate ability spent like 1 energy per use. So it could be used multiple times, but you’d have to spend energy in order to do it
I think activate is going to work like Jeff, Noc, Vision, and PF. Basically you can only move/use their effect, in this case activating it, in the beginning of next turn.
I think that Symbiote Spider-Man Does work with On Reveals (and Activates) which yes would make it a very strong card but that feels irrelevant to whether or not it makes sense when we're talking about playtest cards especially this far in the future, I just think the wording specifically calling out "Like it just revealed" and the fact that Mystique and Rogue trigger On Reveals if they copy them seem like it's pointing to it working with On Reveals.
Also specifically with your Black Panther Example I would assume that Activate happens before cards are revealed so Symbiote Spider-Man>Black Panther wouldn't work on turn 5 you'd have to wait till turn 6 to Activate it and also I assume that the Taskmaster follow up wouldn't work at all because Taskmaster would be looking for Black Panther but only Symbiote Spider-Man would be on the field so you'd have to use Arnim Zola, which while strong seems no more dangerous than Wong>Panther>Zola.
I’m 99% sure symbiote Spider-Man will also work with on reveals. It’s the season pass card and no other activates will be out when it releases. They won’t release a season pass card without a way to meaningfully use its ability
The main difference with activate would be that it probably would have to flip onto the board first, then following turns, you can play cards, then tap the Activate card to sequence how the turn will play out. Doubt you'd be able to Activate on the same turn they're played, but who knows.
Also, what's the counter to stop these cards? Will there be a "Cosmo" type that will 'Disable' all Activates Next Turn (This turn/at this lane/etc)?
It's an interesting Mechanic and I'm excited to see the game move forward with new Keywords!
You know how you can click/tap on a card when its face down to see it again I suspect when you place a card down right before you select end turn you can tap the card and Activate is there. So you would have to do that before pressing end turn but while its face down
I bet you the Activate phase will happen before on-reveals, so the vulture example Regis gave around 3:00 won't work until turn 4.
Gimme a Madam Web, Cosmo, Professor X, Mystique shell.
Oh, speculative deck, I christen thee:
"Sit Down, and Shut Up"
Excited for gwenpool and scarlet spider. Been wanting to play with a stronger handbuff deck than what we can make right now. 12:25
If this "Activate" keyword works like I think it'll, this symbiote spiderman will probably revive Black Panter with Zola, doing what Shuri was intending to do, but way better.
I have a feeling Activate will be a one turn delay. Example: play card, next turn it activates, hopefully activates after all other cards resolve
Spider sounds cool. I haven’t played a proper move deck in so long and I think this could be just the thing to bring it back. Plus the other cards too
Wonder if activate happens the first time your opponent plays a card at that location, like negasonic - that would make them much less powerful since the opponent decides when/if to activate your cards
I'm sure activate NEED to have been revealed already, because it would be crazy in the engineer side to make them available in the turn they're played, also all the ones shown here are 4 or less
If Activate can only trigger the turn after being played, Symbiote Spider-Man would literally only be able to use merged Activate abilities on turn 6 after being played on turn 4. I feel like that alone is evidence that it might work the turn the card is played.
silver sable in a bounce deck will be pretty interesting.
Arana will work each turn unless the text changes. You need to play the card so you can’t proct the same card twice without bounce
Arana with spiderman-2099 followed up with heimdall for max damage, i think that will be fun
I think on reveals will trigger with Symbiote Spidey. ‘As if it’ could refer to itself, not the card it’s merging with.
So you activate it, it merges and treats the text like Spidey just revealed. So it’s activated first, revealed second.
I can see your interpretation but it’s certainly something they need to clarify. Bad wording either way.
scarlet spider is going to be insane in a namora deck
Scarlet Spider? *Rubs eyes* Ah, Saronite Chain Gang!
"How long can this go on?"
Scarlet Spider makes me feel like Activate MUST have some condition other than just "click on it". A 4/10 baseline, potentially duplicating any stat buffs you can put on it, and with the only downside being that you have to play it before turn 6? That seems too busted to be even considered as-is. I know datamines change, but even for a preliminary version that seems like it's pushing it too far.
So what big bad are they going to drop with basically Odins text but for activation cards.( all cards that have been “activated” are reset, letting these cards be activated again) it just makes the most sense as a card
fun stuff... my oops all spiders deck may be about to get arguably worse... but certainly more spidery.
Also Im not so sure about the interpretation of the symbiote spider-man, feels like "just revealed" is meant to say this will behave like the card is being revealed. I think it is meant to do what you are saying, but I think its also meant to re-trigger on-reveal affects or as you said one-time use triggered abilities like negasonic. I assume this was the wording the settled on for it to be like you just played the card again... seems weird it would copy everything except on reveal abilities... but the wording is clunkier than the average card from them for sure so who knows.
I can’t wait to see a move meta 😅
Maybe Symbiote Spiderman can turn on Ongoing cards that have been Enchantressed or Rogued.
Silver sable looks good I’m thrown off by her ability saying steal and then Cassandra’s says drain so I thought drain was going to be a steal power type of effect.
When the "activate" keyword" resolves is going to be huge too. If its at the start of a turn, end of a turn, before/after on reveals will make a HUGE difference to the effects power.
For instance, you play scarlet spiderman, buff with namora, then play odin on namora and activate the SS .. does it split before or after the second namora buff goes off ???
NEW SPIDERMAN CARDS LETS GO!!! And yeah Activate sounds hype
Activate could be just like Captain Marvel, the Activate effect happens after the game ends
Grandmaster is kind of awkward as an On Reveal. I wonder if they'll change it to Activate. Maybe Phoenix Force, too. PF could be made a 2-cost Activate or something that you could work as Shang Chi insurance or something 🤔
Madam Web and Mystique will be staples in Move.
Madame Web is so good. You can just move ANY card to another location?!?
Araña is targeted, power crept Ghost-Spider.
Scarlet Spider seams kinda weak at 4/5. This is a power buff candidate.
Silver Sable is a net 1/5, that’s probably pretty good in bounce decks.
Symbiote Spider has the potential to be VERY good depending on how the effect will work for on reveal cards.
I wonder if a card that "steals" power hits a card protected by Luke if it still gets power.
Activate is soooo cool. Happy to see more interactive skill plays
Im wondering if "Activate" is Snaps version of "end of turn" effects. It auto activates at the end of each turn