We hope you have enjoyed the first episode of our "Historian Answers Google Questions' series! Let us know which over time period or topics you'd like us to cover in the comments below 👇
I enjoyed this new format a lot. Well, for next instalment - about the Romans, I suppose - here's the most viral question: Did the Romans invent noodles or have we thank Marco Polo for them?
If you've ever gamed, and you mentioned "Civilizations," you should try Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and though it's fantasy, I'd like your take on how well the developers did. The architecture, name pronunciations, the topography of the different regions, the plants, wildlife, etc.
@@Mr.Glidehook I second that! Spent half of the game just walking around. It's beautiful. Also the TOUR session was amazing, with current photos of the ruins.
I absolutely loved this format! I feel like youtube is flooded with videos that are just repeating history over and over in that monotone sort of voice that makes you space out... great job!
@@murrayscott9546darn it, but you won. The endless monotone is just perfect for people with ADHD trying to sleep. This, however, is too interesting to sleep to.
There are many videos in this format and it's good but could be a little bit better. Those experts should have more time to go into details about those questions.
You talk like I do when I talk about things I'm passionate about, small tangents, the details, small storytelling etc. It made it extremely easy to follow and understand!
Can't recommend the Ancients podcast enough. Indeed, all of History Hit's podcasts are bangers, I particularly recommend Dan Snow's History Hit, American History Hit, The Ancients, After Dark: Myths, Misdeeds, and the Paranormal, and Gone Medieval. Dr Eleanor Janega is a frequent co-host or guest, if you know who she is you know how unbelievably engaging and fun to listen to she is. Treat yourself!
This is a fun format. I’ve always enjoyed Wired’s version. But the sound effects and music were really distracting, especially when it was louder than the speaker.
6th grade, unit on Ancient Greece: my sweet old lady teacher was telling us all about “Perkules.” I’m looking at the word “Pericles” in the textbook and puzzling over this pronunciation. Eventually it hit me: She was assuming that “Herakles” was pronounced “Hercules,” and therefore “Pericles” had to rhyme with it. Bless her heart.
pronunciation is a battlefield. I am Greek and I have to really stretch my imagination to understand who exactly are people referring to when using English pronunciation and English letters. I don´t blame people when they say Greek is really hard to pronounce because Greek writing (especially ancient Greek) is really mirroring Greek speech. English letters just don´t work
First off it's was so funny for the first thirty seconds of this video because I listen to Tristan's podcast "The Ancients" (I'M OBSESSED WITH IT) and I never realized until now I had never SEEN what Tristian looked like so when I saw him in this video I was only able to recognize that it was Tristian when he started SPEAKING LMAO. LOVED THIS VIDEO! Thanks History Hit & Tristan!
Aeschylus is probably my favorite greek playwright. His words so beautifully stir the soul, even thousands of years later. For instance, his ramous quote "He who learns must suffer." Succint yet still wise. But the rest of the quote is often forgotten. "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."
I understand symposia to be a sort of challenge to use logic and philosophy to debate while drinking. It was a way to establish status and recognition. Less a party than a sort of competition to show that you had the character and gravitas it took to remain rational while drinking.
This is actually very accurately displayed in Assassin's Creed Odyssey. You attend a symposia and have some drunken philosophical debates. It's a lot of fun.
It was an informative , unique, and wonderful introduction about Ancient Greek and a great Hellenic civilization ... thank you 🙏 ( history Hit) channel for sharing
I don’t “smash the like button” on many videos. But I do when History Hit has Tristan Hughes on. Hoping one day we can get The Ancients on RUclips. Also gonna need Mathew Lewis on to some extent🙏
Well done to the legendary Tristan, Hughes, big fan of his work, the Diadochi wars that he has worked on in the history channel the Kings and Generals is a gem
@@thebloodgod5885 Probably because the Romans built a massive centralised empire with infrastructure and a codified law opposed to the conglomeration of city states the Greeks hat.
I would love you to talk about the traditions and religions of the most well-known cultures, such as Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Persian, Viking, Inca, so on and so forth
Love these videos with Tristan, my only small complaint is the audio, the mic is too low and there's a lot of reverb. Put him in a tiny room, pet him, feed him, and poke him for history facts.
I'd love to know why the ancient Greeks where so good at discovering things. They can up with so many innovations, it seems more than most other cultures
It's probably because Greek language, like English now, was international SO any Syrian, Egyptian or Libyan scholar would be considered Greek based on language.
True for a period of time, but other languages have often had the upper hand during different periods, like Acadian and Latin. I think it was more to do with the Greek approach to thinking
@@KasumiRINAyes, Greek was the lingua Franca for a while in the ancient world. Roman patricians learned Greek. Even Julius Caesar’s last words were in the Greek language.
Well done Tristan, some great answers to some interesting questions that debunk a few assumptions. What I found of interest was that the Greeks were not from a unified Greece and that they would fight anyone including each other. Other interesting points about the sanitation that was often something that credited to the Romans, well in the film 'The Life of Brian' anyway. Many thanks for sharing.
my mom was born in Uzbekistan in a town called Bukhara..she told me that locals in the old days they found armors burried in the ground( like it was from some battle or something) and that in ancient times because of the mass mariages that Alexander the Great was condacting ppl actually asking "που είναι η χαρά?"( meaning where is the wedding, " hara" is joyous occasion) so the name kinda stack Bukhara..ofc that is just a myth passed down the locals dont know how true it is
hey guys this is a great format i loved it but could you please position the mic closer and put a compressor on the audio 😭😭 it's uncomfortable to listen to this before bed
Sylphium may not be extinct, and a professor in Turkey appears to have rediscovered a "botanical survivor". A lot of modern fish sauces are said to be derivatives of garum, and Max Miller from Tasting History recently made some using traditional methods.
Wow, that was so informative, thanks! I would really like to associate music in the ancient world with Ancient Greece as it was incredibly popular and huge part of their culture! Orpheus is the most famous figure as he touched even the Hades with his music to give him his wife Eurydice back but unfortunately lost her again! Timeless tale of tragedy and love! Cheers!
moving into the middle-ages and european renaissance, another very crucial way that greek texts survived (and were even elaborated upon) was through arabic translations, which europeans then rediscovered hundreds of years later during the crusades. near-eastern and mediterranean communities were far from insular even in the ancient world, and their histories are much more intertwined than pop-history today gives them credit for
Regarding whether "ancient Greece was before the Romans", there's an additional complication besides the obvious overlap of Classical Rome and Greece. The "Byzantine Empire" is both a legitimate political continuation of the Roman Empire, but by the Medieval Era of Europe it was essentially a Greek state. For example, during the Crusades a common historical distinction is between the "Latins" (e.g. Franks, Germans, English) i.e. the Catholic Crusaders and the Greek Christians already in the Near East, generally affiliated with the Byzantine (aka Roman) Empire, which was still very much alive at the time. At least until the 4th Crusade lol. Anyway, in a sense, the "Greek Empire" both preceded and outlasted the Roman (Latin) Empire.
This in no way assisted with if Greeks were before the Romans. Everything you wrote was about succession not precession. If you spoke about maybe the Iliad, or maybe Mycenaean or Minoan era or culture that could have been “an additional complication”. And besides that, the Byzantine empire was essentially a continuation of the eastern Roman Empire. Culturally it held many Greek and Latin standards and by the time of the ottomans, much of the peoples with literature and arts of the empire flee to Italy and sparks the renaissance when Italians and the other western cultures are able to reflect on the Roman Empire and Greek arts and culture that had been otherwise forgotten. But by practice, I’m fairly certain the Byzantine empire spoke Latin. At least by majority…. Certainly business and politics most likely were carried out in Latin. Either way, none of that offers “complication” as to what preceded what.
@@lancehandy6648 this actually kinda supports my point, because you are incorrect. After around 600CE the Eastern Roman Empire was transitioning from Latin to Greek. For almost the entire period between the fall of the Western Empire and the Turkish conquest, the Byzantine Empire was Greek-speaking, its laws, rulers, and people primarily and generally only operated in Greek. The diaspora after the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople was largely significant for the spread of ancient Greek and Greek language texts that had been lost or forgotten in Western Europe. A lot of Latin texts had actually been getting back to Christendom for a couple centuries prior to the fall of Constantinople, it was the largely Greek culture that had been operating in the Eastern Mediterranean that was the biggest shift in cultural transfer. I'm not an expert and obviously the Eastern Roman Empire was a blend of Latin and Greek culture and stuff, but when the empire divided it largely localized back into its native Greek culture with legacy Latin institutions. By the time the Crusades started (at the very latest), the Byzantine Empire was a Greek empire speaking and operating with the Greek language and run by people with Greek heritage. My point is basically that the period of "the Romans" was in between two periods where Greeks, speaking Greek and largely following the culture of their Greek ancestors, dominated the Eastern Mediterranean
@@lancehandy6648 the point of my comment and the information I was providing are super clear, sorry if it is so completely beyond your grasp to consider an answer or perspective about the topic that is one step beyond a simple either/or answer. I have no clue why you even bothered replying to me, either time, but you sound unbelievably uninteresting to talk to and without anything remotely worthwhile to say.
@@imperator9343 you can try to make it personal all you want. You’re trying to be “that guy” and seem like someone making additional points no one’s thought about, but it’s regarding something no one’s asking. I have nothing to offer because I’m sticking to the original topic at hand. You can try to make it personal all you want. It doesn’t surprise me, you doing that is another example of you bringing up something that is outside the point. Mentioning the continuation of the Roman and Greeks via the Byzantine empire has no bearing and changes absolutely nothing about their origins. Are you that dense? Anything that happens in the medieval era, dark ages to the fall of Constantinople does not impact who comes first. Does it mean Greeks don’t have an impact as early as 1200 bce? No it doesn’t. Does it change Roman origins? No it doesn’t. You literally are just trying to be “that guy” spewing irrelevant information just so you can have some sort of backward gratification. And it all is stated in your last sentence of your original comment. That is that the Greek empire preceded and outlasted the Roman’s. NO ONE IS ASKING WHAT OUTLASTED WHAT. You preceded the entire comment with your “revelation” that the insight you’re offering adds a complication and it literally doesn’t add any complication to what preceded what. Again…. Had you mentioned anything about earlier Greek civilization marks not mentioned in the video, that might add complication. Or that the Roman’s have a legend of being derived from refugees of Troy (I don’t personally believe that), but it might add complication to the question. What you’re getting at is like saying “ottoman culture was significantly impacted by local Greeks in due to rich history and culture and morphed ottoman into a Greek/turkish constant that lasts on, further complicating the question of their who comes first Greek or Roman.” Which is a ludicrous statement. It’s not that you’re wrong about your facts. You’re wrong about its validation amongst what’s being asked. You think spewing accurate facts makes you correct, no it doesn’t. It only makes your facts correct…. But it doesn’t change whatever reasoning you’re trying to add. To simply put it, you’d have a very interesting and intriguing comment had you just left out the sentence of it adding complication. Had you preceded with “an interesting fact to add on to the answer of this question” or something along those lines, your comment would be golden. But you’re so damn stubborn and easily offended all you can do is keep spewing more facts in an era outside the realm of the question and try to insult others giving you constructive criticism. Such a child.
There is no debate about what garum was. We have recipes and even know that the most expensive garum came from Spain. I've no idea why he would think that. It's one of the only things from that time that we have exact details on lol.
To be fair, most of the Ancient texts we have were preserved by Medieval copyists. Most of the oldest copies of ancient historical and literary works come from codexes from the high Middle Ages (11th-12th centuries). The Bible is a certain exception, with large portions of it surviving on papyri from late Antiquity.
02:30 I'd refer to ancient Greece as a cultural area similar to Europe in the 19th and first half of the 20th century. Interestingly, it was the Roman conquest that would make Greece kind of a nation, under the name of Rhomei which means both "Romans" and "Greeks" which was basically the same in "Byzantine" times.
You mentioned among those who the greeks fought with the Thracians, weren't they also greeks? At least that's what i learned, especially since i live in the thrace, the homeland of the Thracians
Apart from Olbia (near Mykolaiv), and Khersonesus (no relation to Kherson) and other Greek ruins in Crimea, Ukraine also has dig sites in Odesa. Which really makes russians mad as they claim the settlement is only 200 years old.
ever heard of Greek Plan? if we were mad about it we wouldn't name it after Odessos, dummy. your roast doesn't make any sense🤔 but yeah, modern settlement of Odessa is technically 200 years old.
I'm an Ancients podcast listener and let me tell you, 100%, subscribe to it, listen to it, it's an amazing podcast. If you like this guy, there's bunches and bunches of content there, you'll love it.
re - 4:35 It's funny you should say that, because that is the EXACT ideal beauty standard of modern Egypt. The women find men to be more attractive if they have a deep tan (but not black skin. Egyptians can be quite racist against people with black skin, commonly referring to them as "bar barry," meaning barbarian). Whereas the more pale a woman is, the more attractive. This ideal can even be seen in art from ancient Egypt, from the days of the Pharaohs. So it's either a mediterranean thing, or it's one of the very many things that Greek culture borrowed from the Egyptian culture.
We hope you have enjoyed the first episode of our "Historian Answers Google Questions' series! Let us know which over time period or topics you'd like us to cover in the comments below 👇
I enjoyed this new format a lot. Well, for next instalment - about the Romans, I suppose - here's the most viral question: Did the Romans invent noodles or have we thank Marco Polo for them?
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If you've ever gamed, and you mentioned "Civilizations," you should try Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and though it's fantasy, I'd like your take on how well the developers did. The architecture, name pronunciations, the topography of the different regions, the plants, wildlife, etc.
@@Mr.Glidehook I second that! Spent half of the game just walking around. It's beautiful. Also the TOUR session was amazing, with current photos of the ruins.
Vikings!!!!!! So many myths!!?
I absolutely loved this format! I feel like youtube is flooded with videos that are just repeating history over and over in that monotone sort of voice that makes you space out... great job!
That format, admit it, is a cure for insomnia !
Appreciate the support!
@@murrayscott9546darn it, but you won. The endless monotone is just perfect for people with ADHD trying to sleep. This, however, is too interesting to sleep to.
There are many videos in this format and it's good but could be a little bit better. Those experts should have more time to go into details about those questions.
Maybe you should stick with something more your speed.
This guy is phenomenally knowledgeable. So, so well done.
I really enjoyed this. The format is so engaging and Tristan is a delightful, knowledgeable presenter. Lots more like this please.
More to come!
He's good, isn't he?! Really nice chap too.
But where is Iseult?
You talk like I do when I talk about things I'm passionate about, small tangents, the details, small storytelling etc. It made it extremely easy to follow and understand!
Great to see Phil Collins is keeping busy
Well that's just funny
😂 stop it
Pfffftttt.. hahaha!!!
Felt like something was in the air tonight
What an insult. I never understood why collins was so popular.
Of course, there was a central sewage system in Athens, and it came to our knowledge in 2003, when the Athens subway was being built.
For the question on how ancient Greek music sounded there is some amusing reading to be had on that subject by Plato.
Can't recommend the Ancients podcast enough. Indeed, all of History Hit's podcasts are bangers, I particularly recommend Dan Snow's History Hit, American History Hit, The Ancients, After Dark: Myths, Misdeeds, and the Paranormal, and Gone Medieval. Dr Eleanor Janega is a frequent co-host or guest, if you know who she is you know how unbelievably engaging and fun to listen to she is. Treat yourself!
Thank you, and all the others for recommending these wonderful podcasts! I love history YT, but I’m more productive when I’m listening to podcasts 😂
Same! There's something right about listening to people telling stories about our ancestors and their struggles, victories and stupidity.
Are these on Spotify?
This is a fun format. I’ve always enjoyed Wired’s version. But the sound effects and music were really distracting, especially when it was louder than the speaker.
Facinating! More content like this please!! 👏
You got it!
I listen to The Ancients obsessively just to hear his voice. Delicious.
as a greek archaeologist I have to say that this video is very well structured and includes the most important parts of the Mycenean civiziation
6th grade, unit on Ancient Greece: my sweet old lady teacher was telling us all about “Perkules.” I’m looking at the word “Pericles” in the textbook and puzzling over this pronunciation. Eventually it hit me: She was assuming that “Herakles” was pronounced “Hercules,” and therefore “Pericles” had to rhyme with it. Bless her heart.
Perkules sounds like a cough syrup.
“You’re wrong, but it’s understandable why you’re wrong.”
Percules is what you call a powerlifter who comes back from an injury or surgery way too early because the pills have them feeling invincible
pronunciation is a battlefield. I am Greek and I have to really stretch my imagination to understand who exactly are people referring to when using English pronunciation and English letters. I don´t blame people when they say Greek is really hard to pronounce because Greek writing (especially ancient Greek) is really mirroring Greek speech. English letters just don´t work
@@YukiNoShinku I only recently started learning the correct pronunciation of Greek names, but I find it fascinating
I admire the patience and politeness of this man as he answers the question about whether or not Aristotle existed. jc
First off it's was so funny for the first thirty seconds of this video because I listen to Tristan's podcast "The Ancients" (I'M OBSESSED WITH IT) and I never realized until now I had never SEEN what Tristian looked like so when I saw him in this video I was only able to recognize that it was Tristian when he started SPEAKING LMAO. LOVED THIS VIDEO! Thanks History Hit & Tristan!
Aeschylus is probably my favorite greek playwright. His words so beautifully stir the soul, even thousands of years later. For instance, his ramous quote "He who learns must suffer." Succint yet still wise. But the rest of the quote is often forgotten.
"Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart
until, in our own despair, against our will,
comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."
This was excellent. Very educational and made me want to read more about the ancient Greeks 😊👍🏼 Many thanks 🇬🇷
Dan Snow should do the same on Napoleonic era warfare
👀
Very fun! I love getting little tidbits of genuine history in the middle of my day! 🤭
I understand symposia to be a sort of challenge to use logic and philosophy to debate while drinking. It was a way to establish status and recognition. Less a party than a sort of competition to show that you had the character and gravitas it took to remain rational while drinking.
This is actually very accurately displayed in Assassin's Creed Odyssey. You attend a symposia and have some drunken philosophical debates. It's a lot of fun.
Excellent mix of sociological answers for a very broad period of time. Looking forward to more like this, soon.
Ok THIS is a great format for history. I’d watch this regularly.
Greek ancient civilization has something so special about it.
Misogyny and slavery, those were the days!
@@elizamccroskey1708🤓
@@elizamccroskey1708trigger me timbers!
@@elizamccroskey1708no Ancient Greece = No western civilization.
It was an informative , unique, and wonderful introduction about Ancient Greek and a great Hellenic civilization ... thank you 🙏 ( history Hit) channel for sharing
So glad you enjoyed it!
I'm starting to listen to The Ancients because I enjoyed Tristan's cameo on Betwixt the Sheets. It's really fascinating
I don’t “smash the like button” on many videos. But I do when History Hit has Tristan Hughes on. Hoping one day we can get The Ancients on RUclips. Also gonna need Mathew Lewis on to some extent🙏
Well done to the legendary Tristan, Hughes, big fan of his work, the Diadochi wars that he has worked on in the history channel the Kings and Generals is a gem
Yes! I dont think we talk about Greece enough, romans get all the hype
Amen to that. A lot of that though is probably because of how directly the Romans influenced various countries histories you know?
@@thebloodgod5885 Probably because the Romans built a massive centralised empire with infrastructure and a codified law opposed to the conglomeration of city states the Greeks hat.
What have the Greeks ever done for us?
@@Banquet42are you serious? If so, you’re really, really dense and ignorant
@@thebloodgod5885In Ukraine Greeks influenced us much more. Roman ruins are few and far between.
I would love you to talk about the traditions and religions of the most well-known cultures, such as Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Persian, Viking, Inca, so on and so forth
What an amazing video! I’m totally hooked! More please!!!! Hahahaha
Working on it!
In regards to garum I really enjoyed (tasting history with max Miller) he made his own garum last summer and talks about it's history
Now compare that to Worcetershire sauce lol
Hey that's me that got shot with the arrow at 12:09! Great video btw.
Thank you very much! Especially since you weren't feeling well - whether a cold or allergies. ❤😊
Hey Tristan. Great job 👏
Very enlightening and educational. Love the video.
Much appreciated!
Fascinating - thank you.
Would love to hear more on greek 8nventions.
Love these videos with Tristan, my only small complaint is the audio, the mic is too low and there's a lot of reverb. Put him in a tiny room, pet him, feed him, and poke him for history facts.
I'd love to see a Google's Most Popular Questions video on contemporary history!
This was brilliant! Ευχαριστω για το σεβασμο που διχνεις στην πατριδα μου. 🙂
Terrific video. I'll definitely check out his podcast.
I had no idea you guys had a podcast!! Immediate follow.
Great presentation. You make the information very accessible.🎯
I’ve finally found an entertaining video about ancient greece. Really loved this format! Keep up the good work guys!!
Thank you! Will do!
Holy shit this video has a mobile vibrate sound between chapters and it's maddening
Just listed to what an Aulos sounds like. It’s haunting. No wonder they used it on the battle field.
Loved this video....great info and well presented.
I'd love to know why the ancient Greeks where so good at discovering things. They can up with so many innovations, it seems more than most other cultures
It's probably because Greek language, like English now, was international SO any Syrian, Egyptian or Libyan scholar would be considered Greek based on language.
True for a period of time, but other languages have often had the upper hand during different periods, like Acadian and Latin. I think it was more to do with the Greek approach to thinking
@@KasumiRINAyes, Greek was the lingua Franca for a while in the ancient world. Roman patricians learned Greek. Even Julius Caesar’s last words were in the Greek language.
Well done Tristan, some great answers to some interesting questions that debunk a few assumptions. What I found of interest was that the Greeks were not from a unified Greece and that they would fight anyone including each other. Other interesting points about the sanitation that was often something that credited to the Romans, well in the film 'The Life of Brian' anyway. Many thanks for sharing.
I would love this series to cover ancient African history, lots of on told tales
Make an episode about Thracian and Dacian please, the most advanced culture at time according to Herodotus
If anyone's particularly into Hellenic warfare I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series
I am quite impressed with your knowledge!
This youtube channel is an Oasis.. thanks mate.. thanks
Great content. The phone vibration noise every 5 seconds is pretty annoying though. Especially if you are just a listener
A former professor said that the term “barbarian” came from the Greeks who thought their language sounded like “bar, bar, bar.”
Love this series!
I knew there was a special reason I loved the Greek music in Civ6 😄
Omg I’ve listened to that song for so long playing Civ! To think it was authentically Greek - so cool
my mom was born in Uzbekistan in a town called Bukhara..she told me that locals in the old days they found armors burried in the ground( like it was from some battle or something) and that in ancient times because of the mass mariages that Alexander the Great was condacting ppl actually asking "που είναι η χαρά?"( meaning where is the wedding, " hara" is joyous occasion) so the name kinda stack Bukhara..ofc that is just a myth passed down the locals dont know how true it is
hey guys this is a great format i loved it but could you please position the mic closer and put a compressor on the audio 😭😭 it's uncomfortable to listen to this before bed
Well after watching a couple of vids on this channel i like i subscribed,keep up the good work
Sylphium may not be extinct, and a professor in Turkey appears to have rediscovered a "botanical survivor". A lot of modern fish sauces are said to be derivatives of garum, and Max Miller from Tasting History recently made some using traditional methods.
Your switching sound sounds like my phone vibrating. Great video, but got stressed by that vibration sound constantly
Love this
Interesting introduction to Ancient Greece. Loved it! All though I get the impression that pederasty is a carefully avoided subject here.
Excellent. Thanks
Awesome video!!
Wow, that was so informative, thanks! I would really like to associate music in the ancient world with Ancient Greece as it was incredibly popular and huge part of their culture! Orpheus is the most famous figure as he touched even the Hades with his music to give him his wife Eurydice back but unfortunately lost her again! Timeless tale of tragedy and love! Cheers!
You simply have to do more videos like this.
moving into the middle-ages and european renaissance, another very crucial way that greek texts survived (and were even elaborated upon) was through arabic translations, which europeans then rediscovered hundreds of years later during the crusades. near-eastern and mediterranean communities were far from insular even in the ancient world, and their histories are much more intertwined than pop-history today gives them credit for
Regarding whether "ancient Greece was before the Romans", there's an additional complication besides the obvious overlap of Classical Rome and Greece. The "Byzantine Empire" is both a legitimate political continuation of the Roman Empire, but by the Medieval Era of Europe it was essentially a Greek state. For example, during the Crusades a common historical distinction is between the "Latins" (e.g. Franks, Germans, English) i.e. the Catholic Crusaders and the Greek Christians already in the Near East, generally affiliated with the Byzantine (aka Roman) Empire, which was still very much alive at the time. At least until the 4th Crusade lol. Anyway, in a sense, the "Greek Empire" both preceded and outlasted the Roman (Latin) Empire.
This in no way assisted with if Greeks were before the Romans. Everything you wrote was about succession not precession. If you spoke about maybe the Iliad, or maybe Mycenaean or Minoan era or culture that could have been “an additional complication”. And besides that, the Byzantine empire was essentially a continuation of the eastern Roman Empire. Culturally it held many Greek and Latin standards and by the time of the ottomans, much of the peoples with literature and arts of the empire flee to Italy and sparks the renaissance when Italians and the other western cultures are able to reflect on the Roman Empire and Greek arts and culture that had been otherwise forgotten. But by practice, I’m fairly certain the Byzantine empire spoke Latin. At least by majority…. Certainly business and politics most likely were carried out in Latin. Either way, none of that offers “complication” as to what preceded what.
@@lancehandy6648 this actually kinda supports my point, because you are incorrect. After around 600CE the Eastern Roman Empire was transitioning from Latin to Greek. For almost the entire period between the fall of the Western Empire and the Turkish conquest, the Byzantine Empire was Greek-speaking, its laws, rulers, and people primarily and generally only operated in Greek. The diaspora after the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople was largely significant for the spread of ancient Greek and Greek language texts that had been lost or forgotten in Western Europe. A lot of Latin texts had actually been getting back to Christendom for a couple centuries prior to the fall of Constantinople, it was the largely Greek culture that had been operating in the Eastern Mediterranean that was the biggest shift in cultural transfer.
I'm not an expert and obviously the Eastern Roman Empire was a blend of Latin and Greek culture and stuff, but when the empire divided it largely localized back into its native Greek culture with legacy Latin institutions. By the time the Crusades started (at the very latest), the Byzantine Empire was a Greek empire speaking and operating with the Greek language and run by people with Greek heritage.
My point is basically that the period of "the Romans" was in between two periods where Greeks, speaking Greek and largely following the culture of their Greek ancestors, dominated the Eastern Mediterranean
@@imperator9343 and my point is that your answering a question not being asked. It still answers nothing about precession
@@lancehandy6648 the point of my comment and the information I was providing are super clear, sorry if it is so completely beyond your grasp to consider an answer or perspective about the topic that is one step beyond a simple either/or answer. I have no clue why you even bothered replying to me, either time, but you sound unbelievably uninteresting to talk to and without anything remotely worthwhile to say.
@@imperator9343 you can try to make it personal all you want. You’re trying to be “that guy” and seem like someone making additional points no one’s thought about, but it’s regarding something no one’s asking. I have nothing to offer because I’m sticking to the original topic at hand. You can try to make it personal all you want. It doesn’t surprise me, you doing that is another example of you bringing up something that is outside the point. Mentioning the continuation of the Roman and Greeks via the Byzantine empire has no bearing and changes absolutely nothing about their origins. Are you that dense? Anything that happens in the medieval era, dark ages to the fall of Constantinople does not impact who comes first. Does it mean Greeks don’t have an impact as early as 1200 bce? No it doesn’t. Does it change Roman origins? No it doesn’t. You literally are just trying to be “that guy” spewing irrelevant information just so you can have some sort of backward gratification. And it all is stated in your last sentence of your original comment. That is that the Greek empire preceded and outlasted the Roman’s. NO ONE IS ASKING WHAT OUTLASTED WHAT. You preceded the entire comment with your “revelation” that the insight you’re offering adds a complication and it literally doesn’t add any complication to what preceded what. Again…. Had you mentioned anything about earlier Greek civilization marks not mentioned in the video, that might add complication. Or that the Roman’s have a legend of being derived from refugees of Troy (I don’t personally believe that), but it might add complication to the question. What you’re getting at is like saying “ottoman culture was significantly impacted by local Greeks in due to rich history and culture and morphed ottoman into a Greek/turkish constant that lasts on, further complicating the question of their who comes first Greek or Roman.” Which is a ludicrous statement. It’s not that you’re wrong about your facts. You’re wrong about its validation amongst what’s being asked. You think spewing accurate facts makes you correct, no it doesn’t. It only makes your facts correct…. But it doesn’t change whatever reasoning you’re trying to add. To simply put it, you’d have a very interesting and intriguing comment had you just left out the sentence of it adding complication. Had you preceded with “an interesting fact to add on to the answer of this question” or something along those lines, your comment would be golden. But you’re so damn stubborn and easily offended all you can do is keep spewing more facts in an era outside the realm of the question and try to insult others giving you constructive criticism. Such a child.
That little sound effect when he explains the Greeks getting rid of their chamberpots 😂😂
Great content and format, but he wasn't mic'ed that well. It was hard to hear him at times.
What did the ancient Greeks discovered..😅 this could be an entire documentary series
There is no debate about what garum was. We have recipes and even know that the most expensive garum came from Spain. I've no idea why he would think that. It's one of the only things from that time that we have exact details on lol.
I loved Assassin's Creed Odyssey. How accurate is it?
conflated "Discover" with "Invent" in the 7th question section, but otherwise, great vid.
You mentioned my Goddess Hestia
16:04 My man said professor Michael Scott. 😂
Loved it!
To be fair, most of the Ancient texts we have were preserved by Medieval copyists. Most of the oldest copies of ancient historical and literary works come from codexes from the high Middle Ages (11th-12th centuries). The Bible is a certain exception, with large portions of it surviving on papyri from late Antiquity.
Really interesting about the skin color symboligy back then. Never had heard about it before.
Just wanna say, I am a big fan of your podcast! More mythical gods, pls
02:30
I'd refer to ancient Greece as a cultural area similar to Europe in the 19th and first half of the 20th century.
Interestingly, it was the Roman conquest that would make Greece kind of a nation, under the name of Rhomei which means both "Romans" and "Greeks" which was basically the same in "Byzantine" times.
You mentioned among those who the greeks fought with the Thracians, weren't they also greeks? At least that's what i learned, especially since i live in the thrace, the homeland of the Thracians
Went to UWGB and got to see Prof. Aldrete lecture.
Need to bump up the volume - I can almost hear him
Bring on Dawn Brodey for Pirate history!! Host of HILF podcast
What is the song at 1:10? I fondly recognise it from somewhere
Silphium has been found! It's being grown in small quantities.
The content is pretty good. But he is so cute I got distracted 😂❤
Fondation of Greece 1830, first king Othon from Wittelsbach (Bavaria)
Thanks.
The best-quality teachers for roman aristocrats were Greek scholars.
isn’t that Epictetus at 25:04 ?
Apart from Olbia (near Mykolaiv), and Khersonesus (no relation to Kherson) and other Greek ruins in Crimea, Ukraine also has dig sites in Odesa. Which really makes russians mad as they claim the settlement is only 200 years old.
ever heard of Greek Plan? if we were mad about it we wouldn't name it after Odessos, dummy. your roast doesn't make any sense🤔
but yeah, modern settlement of Odessa is technically 200 years old.
I'm an Ancients podcast listener and let me tell you, 100%, subscribe to it, listen to it, it's an amazing podcast. If you like this guy, there's bunches and bunches of content there, you'll love it.
re - 4:35
It's funny you should say that, because that is the EXACT ideal beauty standard of modern Egypt. The women find men to be more attractive if they have a deep tan (but not black skin. Egyptians can be quite racist against people with black skin, commonly referring to them as "bar barry," meaning barbarian). Whereas the more pale a woman is, the more attractive. This ideal can even be seen in art from ancient Egypt, from the days of the Pharaohs. So it's either a mediterranean thing, or it's one of the very many things that Greek culture borrowed from the Egyptian culture.
Tristian did a talk for the AIA, and the rest is History Hit for me. :)