1987 ProCo Rat 2 - Is the vintage pedal hype real?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The Rat Distortion pedal is one of THE most famous in the world and the rats from 1987 are apparently some of the best ones made. I don't know if this has the legendary LM308 chip but I don't care... it is insanely fun.
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maaan.... it is really, really, heartwarming to see you smile like that from the start all the way to the end! It's worth whatever you pay for. Though I'd really like to know how much did you pay for? hahahahaha!!
and DUDE!! THAT BACK SCRATCHER IN THE BACKGROUND IS SO DISTRACTING!!!
now THAT is RAT! hahahahahahahahaha!!
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The Rat 2 is my favorite pedal. It's the only pedal that I found that can do everything that I need. That is Rat!
Some people say you can not buy happiness, but you can buy cool vintage pedals, and thats kind of the same thing! Sounds awsome! 😀😀😀 THAT IS RAT!!!😎
Yes! YES!
Can we put that slogan on a T-shirt!!!
"Some people say you can not buy happiness, but you can buy cool vintage pedals, and thats kind of the same thing!"
Barry Pugatch Not my quote, it's all over the net, about buying all kinds of gear, like fishing rods or golf clubs etc! A t-shirt would be cool!
The magic setting is distortion 11 o'clock, filter 12:30, volume 3:30 - then you have the Soundgarden Outshined tone. 😎 (and use a battery instead)
thanks man!! was looking for the badmotorfinger tone
Do using battery makes any difference??
I've an original owner of one of these of about the same vintage, so it's a keeper for me. Glows in the dark too! I had a Big Muff that I bought in the early '70s (yes, I'm old) but I could never bond with it because it was so shrill and fizzy (to me) but is probably worth a ton of money now.
That is RAT. Just got a big box reissue and love it
That… is RAT. My all time favorite distortion pedal. And that feeling you had playing Everlong… I felt that lol
Oh that makes me so happy! I really felt very single frequency. There’s a fuller version of the song on Instagram @andyguitargeek
My favorite drive pedal of all time! I have had a version on my board since the 80s... breakup to fuzz, it does ALL of it!!!
Rat2 with led only came out in 1988 🤘🤘
Don't short-change happiness man. It's what life is about. (If it puts a smile on your face then you got a bargain).
Amen!
Crazy, it's 1987, [ sorry the RAT pedal comes into the story later] I'm in my Hollywood, CA 1550 BRONSON AVE APT 2C studio apartment. I just gutted my SOUND CITY 120 amp and rebuilt it into a 1969/1971 MARSHALL HEAD with 6 EL34's(reusing premo parts-6Mullard EL34's, 4Mullard and one 'Bugle Boy' ECC83/12ax7's, Partridge Power & Output transformers a.k.a. 'also used in HI-WATT' amps', sweet sounding " yes there is a difference" mustard dipped radial capacitors, Mallory Filter can capacitors). It was my first non-Fender mod-build. Amp guru Frank Levi III was my roommate. So I really wanted to impress him...even though Frank was kind of pitch tone deaf he had a mastery of guitar tone...he couldn't play guitar. His shop SG sat on the bench and he'd just reach over and open pluck strings. Frank and I became roommates with neither one of us knowing we were guitar amp junkies. I just knew he worked at Ocean Way Studios and that I like everyone else played guitar.
So anyway, I'd stayed up all night tweaking the 'New Marshall' and I had a 4 x 12" cab [2 grey back Celestions and 2
G12T-75's] surrounded on three sides with the long hanging closet doors I'd removed, then I took several found couch cushions and blankets and barricaded the doors and open end where I put an SM58 mic and ran it to my Tascam Porta-one 4 track, then to a Pioneer Stereo and speakers.
Plugged straight into the guitar amp it was 100% Malcolm Young AC/DC!
My strat had a 'custom' humbucker with big cylinder headed allen bolts instead of screws I'd bought from a from a guy who sold factory 2nds, and/or flawed BC Rich guitars from his apartment. So I plugged in my buddy's brand new 1987 Rat pedal. With the pedal it sounded like Angus Young. I loved the tight distortion of the '87 Rat. After a while everyone who played guitar in the complex had walked in. One guy had an earlier, white background Rat pedal he bought a few years earlier. Now that pedal was AMAZING! I got Eddie Van Halen's 1984 sound. The amp iirc, I had biased in the lower 20's.
Sounds really great. I picked up a Stomp Under Foot Skinner Box a while back which is supposedly a clone of the 'Bud Box' handwired RAT and it's a beast as well. That is RAT!
It was worth it... sounds totally lovely.
Holy $hooooots! That, was rat! Great demo to show the range and cools riffs man. Keep the videos coming!🔥
That is RAT and I hope they`ll multiply in your comparison videos!
Undoubtedly
That....is RAT! I was just getting my GAS under control and you make a video like this. Damn it, I just bought another one. I forgot how much fun they were. Thank you for the review .
You’re welcome! And so is your bank balance 😜
That is Rat and so is my Rat. Mine is a big box that I have had since the mid '80s. It looked old when I got it which is odd because based on other videos I watched it was only a year or two old by then based on the stylized Rat logo.
I just bought a vintage Rat because I can hear some songs that I like using the Rat as a distortion. Once I got it and plugged it in, there it was the sound that I could hear in some songs.
Excellent video and great performance! I have the Provo rat 2 , a vintage one, the JHS pack rat and the Brian Wampler Ratsbane and they all are very good. Maybe the Wampler Ratsbane it’s my favorite in the live performance these days cause sounds huge and really MegaDelicious with my Gretsch Jet Duo TVP Jones with Powertronic pickups! 🤟🏻🎸🔥
I'm proud to say I have the original rat. First edition, with the fringe logo.
I have one from the early 90's. I found it a little too compressed with humbuckers or P90's but worked great as a boost for solos stacked with my Boss Turbo overdrive which was my 'always on' pedal. Heavy as a house brick, ate batteries like it hadn't been fed for a week so a power module was a must.
THAT is RAT!
I could watch you do Rats all day long. Let the comparisons begin!
Then I shall BRING THE RAAAAAT
Ah RAT, I love it! Congrats on the pedal, one of my favs, ever
One of my favorite distortion pedals ever. I really like to do the led/lift mod. Lm308s are getting to be hard to find though. I bought a bunch from smallbear a while back. Great video!
Do you make a rat based pedal?
@@TheGuitarGeek yes. It’s a pretty standard rat configuration with clipping mods. Red leds give it a volume and headroom increase. Highly recommend doing it to a cheaper rat variant or finding a turbo rat. The turbo uses the leds in the clipping stage. Smoother with a little less gristle and fizz. Some will say they lm308 sounds different than the newer op07 op amps but the slew rates are damn near identical. The difference is negligible imho. The mod to do the rat “trinity” is pretty easy. Pretty much just pulling the clipping diodes and running jumpers from both sides of d1 to the middle lugs of an on/off/on dpdt toggle switch and building a diode ladder/array on both sides of the switch. Leds on 1 side and 1n914s on the other. You will have a normal rat on the 914 side and a turbo on the other and a lift in the middle for straight op amp clipping. Do it to a new one...you won’t be disappointed. I will link to a basic diagram. www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=91505.0
I'm from the future in 2023. LM308s must have become more available since you posted 2 years ago, because they aren't too hard to get.
I've got to get one of these. That is rat!
Here's a great tip. Have Alchemy Audio out of Chicago mod your Rat! Its AMAZING!!!😎👍✨
Freaking BEAST sound! 🔥🎸🔥🤯🔥
oh yeah!
This is RAT! This is the way. YES! I can hear the tone before I've even pressed play.
You sound Amazing Brother! Only you can say if it was worth it! Looks like you made the right choice. You are smiling and JAMMING! I have the JHS modified RAT, and love it. Also puts a smile on my Face! You did GOOD!⭐️😇⭐️
Thanks brother! It feels absolutely worth it and that tone is just exactly what I love. This is guitar tone for me
Oh that is rat!
I never got the Rat way back when a friend bought a "new" one about 10 years ago. Now I feel I need on!
You should compare a Rat to a Big Muff because they do the same thing to a clean amp and they both sound really good. That is Rat
That is RAT. Got a fairly new one on my board.
Had the same one. Filter at 2:00 and the distorton at 10:00. Main touring distortion through the 90s until it died. Got the Turbo Rat to replace it but not as good . DS-1 was a placeholder but Tube Screamer was my eventual satisfied substitute.
That is RATatatatatatatatatata t a t a t a.....too much coffee....Cheers!
Shakey Keyboard fingers!!!!
Richard Osman morphed with Joey Ramone
This sounds awesome mate! I love my Rat 2
I have a few now, this seems to be the most fun
That’s a RAT !
I’ve had a ds-1 for years and for want of a better phrase, I dislike the “whoosh” sound it has behind the distortion. I think I found my new distortion pedal, thanks Andy 👍🏻
Rat into a pushed JCM 800 is fierce....BUT the holy grail is into an old ADA MP-1 into the FX loop of any big amp and you're into Nuno/Vito Bratta and Skid Row late 80s tones!!! That is Rat my friend!
Nope. The grail is a RAT into a Vox AC30. 👍😉
If I remember correct the only difference is the vintage RAT had the LM308 op-amp chip & that was the only difference which just sounded darker.
My gosh, it sounds huge! Love it :)
ME too sir. Me too
That..... is RAT! I love these pedals, I have several versions that I collected since the 80s.... even if I'm out playing with a country band, there is a RAT on my board. Never leave home without it.
Fun video - thanks!
The filter is a lo pass. A high pass filter cuts lows when you turn it up.
Worth it.
That is Rat. I just bought one. Thanks. Rat on .
Huge fun. THAT is Rat
Pro Co didn't start phasing out the LM308 until 1995 -1996 so you should be good unless it's been modded.
not a 87. you have a rat with a led. Older rats didn't have them
That is Rat! Nice job!!
I assume you are aware it glows in the dark?
If you look inside you may find who put yours together, mine was made by Woodcutter .
Great pedal - even just as a booster - I've had mine since 1990.
That is Rat - a real toe-stubber.
Oh yes! We will be back
I use to have one from 1989. It was in mint condition en had a wicked sound!! I sold it hahah
Doh!
I still have mine from the 80s!
Do you still play it?
@@TheGuitarGeek I just dusted it off - getting a power supply and see if it still works. Don't want to put a battery in there. Will report back :)
@@chrisridenhour cool! I wish you luck
I had one of these original ones, it was stolen after a gig years back . kinda wish I still had it. also lost an original hard wired MXR flanger and a couple of boss pedals in a case
oh no!!! Thieves suck
That sucks bro .
That is Rat!............Nice. I want one.
eBay or reverb maybe?
eBay or reverb maybe?
That is RAT. I need one for myself!!!
This one is mine...
I'm not a fan of distortion, never go beyond mid-gain OD, but I really like the different sounds you get with the gain below noon and all the way down to zero. That is a rat.
Thanks!
Did you ever sort out what year it was made?
Such raw sexy savagery. I don’t think I’d use the filter at all. I don’t think you can improve on this pedal. But I look forward to seeing you. That is Rat 😀👍👍👍
Thanks Tom. I can't wait to try other "rats" in comparison
Yes.... That is RAT! Enjoy.
Nice. Now I want a rat. That is rat.
THAT is RAT. Not sure of it's due to them no longer using the LM308, but I've found the new ones are terrible at low gain and just sound fizzy. Congrats on the new pedal!
That’s how I found them. Luckily, I have one so we can make a comparison!
THAT is RAT.
Love/Hate relationship with mine. It gives absolutely killer sounds with single coils, but I find that overly compressed attack with humbuckers at high gain levels really upsetting. Of course you can correct this with attacking it with a Tube Screamer or a compressor buuuuuuuuut... I wonder if there's a mod that could correct this problem straight away. It also sounds cool in front of an already overdriven amp ! But I'd also like it to have more volume when the gain is down... So yeah I like Rat pedals, but not totally !
And I'm looking forward to watching your big Rat comparison video !
Great! Some rats work with HB and some
Don’t . I have a lot of rat stuff coming
THAT is mouse!
. . . wait, I think I messed that up
No. I see no mistake here. 🐭
That is Rat! ☮️❤️🎶🤘
That is RAT! How about a reverb pedal shootout? Maybe best affordable or budget reverb vs say, the Blue Sky.
I’ve got an affordable reverb review coming tomorrow!
@@TheGuitarGeek Synchronicity! As it was written, so shall it be.
THAT...IS RAT!!
so did you find out the specific year..and tell us the price!!
Im currently wondering if i should spank £200+ on an 80s rat. I had a new chinese version and didnt like it.
Or should i go turbo for half the price? Decisions decisions...
Way hay that is rat keep doing what your doing
Cheers Paul!
that is rat. good one!
They all actually have the same circuit and sound the same, but no doubt the vintage ones are cooler
Yeah. I got an ‘86 Black Face back in ‘97 for $30. I just recently got a Deucetone from Sam Ash on line for $115. It was made 4 months ago, November’23. It sounds just as good as the ‘86.
1987 with an LED? 🤔
THAT..... IS RAT!
(sorry for yelling)
I have a vintage rat that I bought around 1992. Very good condition and been in storage for 25 years. Any idea how much it's worth?
Around 200 dollars. Check reverb for price suggestions but DONT sell it 🤘
That is RAT! Is there going to be a comparison of all the procos as well as all the clones you have?
Oh yes!
@@TheGuitarGeek I look forward to it! The new lil rat looks pretty cool so really curious to see if there's any difference
I’m hoping to get that on board too
I bought one today too. Spooky. No ferrules though.
Really? New or old?
@@TheGuitarGeek I think it's a version 3. Sounds great and that's what matters.
It says The Rat on the bottom.
@@adamtoms8809 that’s ALL that matters
What something is worth is relative to how much you’d pay for it and how much you enjoy owning it.
That is rat
💯
Oh, and THAT is a RAT!
Thank you
That video was Ratical ,ratdiculos, ratified, ratastic.
Oh garçon!!
This Rat Salad has a long curly hair in it ? That geek of a busboy isn’t wearing a hair net!!! I expect this meal will be comp’ed, as well as the Blackend Pia I ordered as my entree!
its poetry
It’s the last time I’m eating here! Ok maybe just one wafer thin mint 💥
@Bogey Mr poo is full of...
Useless information supposed to drive your imagination I can’t no. A no no no.
Hi! Can you please compare Boss Katana Artist and Nextone Special? The new amp looks sick but i wonder if its worth the extra money
It will happen later in the year!
@@TheGuitarGeek thank you so much! I will wait for the video before buying either one!
Wait.. 87? Was that version of Flat Boxes Rat only start produced in 88?
Yes but this one appears to have been built in 87 or at least parts that were made in 87
@@TheGuitarGeek oh ya, maybe the parts were made in 87, indeed really tricky dating the Rat cause there is no relation between date and serial numbers
Does TGG chug ?! Sadly not with the way hes caressing those strings :))
Hahah I think you’re confusing me we another channel 😉
That IS Rat!
Yyyyeeeahhhh rat fannnnnnnzzzz!
I am the Number One Rat fan! That was my first album...
That is rat! Really enjoyed this. I will pull out my rat pedal and give it another try.
You should try a Turbo RAT
Maybe I will!
That is ... RAT. Had one back in '91. Think I lost it, left it somewhere, or sold it. I remember really liking it, and man was it heavy.
That was a 🐀 video great content 🎸🔥🐀
Cheers Rob!
Thats is .... RAT! Thunder! Thunder! Thunder! Damn thats cheap! Warranty VOID. I express daily. Ferrells Intergraded spaceship flange That quarterback is toast .Rest in peace little drumthing. Ampiltube 5 is alive and Joe bonamassa is wrong and he is a wobbly boy. Woooby dooper loopy
🤣💥💥💥
RATZ! Now that's a RAT! Why is it called a rat wonder if it has to do with the acronym or is just ratty?
Is this why you needed to sell your SG? lol the Rat is one of the best pedals ever.
No, The SG is gone because I got the Maybach.
@@TheGuitarGeek Understood, I just recall you saying you "really needed the money" in the episode so I was just wondering if it helped pay for the ProCo.
That is rat.
Maybe too much money for me to justify. I might look at the reissue
It is a lot but... but... oh you could be right
That is rat and still no IBANEZ reviews. Petals, petals everywhere and still no guitars!!!
That is a rat, tho I was hoping foe some type of modern comparison.
Well we’ll get that in another video 😜
Meh. JAFDP (Just another fucking distortion pedal)
Rat2's are the shit ones.
I own many 80’s Rats, they are head and shoulders above the recent ones...the new ones are both harsh and muddy at the same time and built very poorly....that is rat lol.
If you enjoy it and can hear the difference, then no you didn't waste your money. If you bought it expecting an audience or other musicians to notice when playing it at a live show(it WILL happen again at some point) then yeah, a complete waste of $ 🤣 My current modern Rat2 and TurboRat sound good enough to me and in no way do I feel the need for an overpriced IMO LM308 Rat. That IS Rat!
That’s a great point