Probably the most bad ass video you've ever made. We need more 500 s&w testing! According to the hornady manual 1665 FPS and yes I've loaded the same XTP bullets to max, its pretty close. Your not going to get a 350gr bullet to ~ 2000fps safely out of this gun, to do that, the bullet would need to be about 275gr.
Thanks gentlemen. Well done, as always. Great footage, data, details & entertainment. Yes, Yes, Yes it is practical. Mainly for hunting. Good for deer, hog, bear, even elk within reasonable range. I have considered a 500 since it's introduction but have stayed with my faithful 44 magnums. I think I will go 460 S&W if I choose X-Frame. It is a bit more versatile with the ability to use 454 & 45 Colt. 45 bullets offer a bit more variety as well. But I can't knock that beast of a bullet in the 500. Good stuff.
There’s no such thing as overkill when it comes to firearms!! I don’t own an X frame, but I have an N frame Model 29-2 with an 8 3/8” barrel. My friends talked me into bringing it hunting last year. I was hoping to get a hog with it, but didn’t get an opportunity. Gonna try again this year. I think I had some 240 grain XTP’s loaded with H110 powder.
Living in Alaska, and spending a lot of time outdoors, there is definitely a purpose. I carry the 6.5" version in a Diamond D chest rig and use Buffalo Bore 440gr. hardcast rounds for Grizzly protection, if I'm not carrying a hunting rifle. If I have my rifle with me I carry a Ruger GP 100 7 shot .357 mag with hardcast rounds. I like the 500 but it can be a lot to pack when you have other things to carry as well.
Who cars if it’s practical .... god I love mine !!! It’s the most fun you can have with a gun and don’t forget the .460 also its just as fun. I like the underwood ammo .
Had one borrowed from a neighbor for a year or so. Loaded 350g Speer Soft Points (Cheapest 500 Bullet) with 41.0g of H110. Absolute blast to shoot. Great range toy. I enjoyed letting other people shoot it more than shooting it myself. We were in TN shooting and every time we needed a break I would get it out and lay over all the steel targets.
Not over kill, very practical in any situations, loaded up with 43gr h110 with 350gr hornady xtp winchester lrp, mass destruction, massive recoil, massive fireball, massive impression
My ex-fatherinlaw didn't crimp enough and the bullets came out from the recoil. Scary situation because one of the rounds failed to fire the powder and the primer pushed the bullet into the barrel. Thank God we checked because we could have easily figured it was a miss-fire and just went onto the next round. Further investigation found all the bullets had jumped out of the case powder was everywhere, so ya CRIMP is a must.
I load these in my 50 beowulf...... the energy dump is like drinking a cup of laxative after a solid night of eating prime rib. Holy crap! Think of the scene in dumb and dumber on the toilet. Love you guys!
Nice video. I'm considering getting back into the .500 S&W, had one years ago but mainly because it's so versatile, you can go all out or load up some reduced loads and still have something quite substantial. Been mulling over reduced load possibilities for several days now.
700 grain matts bullets + 23.5 grains H110 + leadfree LPP with a lil titegroupstartup = fun! Although may need to lower the pressure as I did have 3 out of 20 pierced primers.
I shoot the 500 S&W magnum in a BHA, you guys should try and get your hands on one and do a review.. Then you will see those 350 gr XTPs move close to 1850 fps, I also shoot Sierras four hundred gr flat point…..And cast 440gr wadcutters and 600 gr HPs 😀
I had a bullet from Federal come out and lock up my cylinder on my 500 S&W. It was a pain to get it open. I just pushed the bullet back into the case and fired it anyway.
With that power, if you hit someone in the groin the shock would disintegrate the spleen and liver. The are not many "safe" places to get hit by that round.
I think it's very practical, it definitely needs specialty set up such as strapping it to your chest but in that configuration it's going to be a lot easier to quickly access then a big old 45-70 rifle
I shoot 500 S&W out of an Encore with a 22" bbl. My current favorite is a 350gr Sierra JHP over 44gr 4227 with a Federal LR Magnum primer. She'll punch through both handles of a beer keg at 100 yards. What's not practical about that?
I knew an old farmhand who called his 500 mag a "sasquatch gun" because if you heard a sasquatch in the night you would feel better with it in your hand. he also put 22lr in that category because both those calibers have mythical properties if you ask the right people. I don't own one but I would buy one if I was visiting my family in Idaho during the winter when I wouldn't be able to use bear spray effectively which is my a preference over a firearm because I don't have the best aim under pressure.
Nice video guys ! I love new reloading information. I have the same revolver in the video. I am using 332. gn, flat point , copper jacket with 35.7 gn. Of lil' gun. Great results up to 100yd so far .it's about 1690fps .
I love my four inch 500. Mostly run a four hundred at 1100 or so. I live in northwest Wyoming and we are overrun with grizzlies. I carry it in a chest holster with some speed strips. The big horn lever gun can run those 350 xtps at 2200 fps if ya want. Shot a bull elk with my prototype, broke the left hip. He went downhill towards my jeep but I ran out of daylight. Came back in the morning and found him dead. Probably asked too much of that bullet at that speed. I only push them to 2000 now.
I have a500 with 4" barrel, reload 250 grain Hornady polymer tip sst. I use it for hunting coyote,elk, and bear, plus self defense especially when the burgler is hiding behind the neighbors refrigerator
Is it overkill? That depends. Do you want rifle power in a handgun to hunt big game? Then, no, it isn’t overkill. Do you want to hunt squirrels? Then, wtf are you thinking?!!
I have a H&R with a 22in barrel chambered in 500 S&W currently shooting Hornaday FTX at 2419fps with a SD of 6 and ES of 17fps. I currently use it to hunt whitetail and black bear.
@@davidtolley1374 I'm using remington large rifle magnum primers with 50gr of hodgdon H110 using a pressure gage on handle of press for consistent crimp pressure. Those numbers was from a 10 shot string over my magneto speed.
~1700 from the revolver, so what would it do from a longer barrel like a lever action (or equivalent 16+ inch length) rifle? the revolver makes sense if you have a rifle in 500 mag
Imagine that round from say an 18 or so inch lever gun. Probably get close to 2000 fps, would be an amazing brush gun for dangerous game defense, or for hunting large game at closer distance.
If you place a high shoulder shot, by the way is the only and best shot placement on a whitetail , the 500 will drive it to the ground like a sledgehammer. But be sure you are wearing earpro, or it will feel like someone stabbed you in the eardrums.😁
You guys keep talking about massive wound channels, this time you said 12", is this the temporary wound channels? If so, from what I hear is that the temporary wound channels has little effect on killing power. Most animal tissue does expand like the temporary wound channels shows, it also contracts back to nearly normal just as quick. The permanent wound channels is the better indicator of killing power. Those pathway is where the animal bleeds out through. After the temporary wound channels collapse back to normal no blood flows from them. Even in high velocity rifle cartridges the so called hydrostatic pressure created has little effect on killing power.
Overkill? Not really because dead is dead as long as you're not trying to keep the meat from the animal if it's the size of a jack rabbit lol but I have one and I shoot mostly extreme 325grn plated bullets with a 18.5grn charge of longshot using the 350xtp oal because all my books just have barnes load data for 325 grain bullets and they're super long so the xtp oal works fine and for the heavier bullets I use my own hard cast and powdercoated 440grn rnfp bullets with 4227 going 1500fps and no gas check and it's never left any lead in my barrel
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Probably the most bad ass video you've ever made. We need more 500 s&w testing! According to the hornady manual 1665 FPS and yes I've loaded the same XTP bullets to max, its pretty close. Your not going to get a 350gr bullet to ~ 2000fps safely out of this gun, to do that, the bullet would need to be about 275gr.
Thanks gentlemen. Well done, as always. Great footage, data, details & entertainment. Yes, Yes, Yes it is practical. Mainly for hunting. Good for deer, hog, bear, even elk within reasonable range. I have considered a 500 since it's introduction but have stayed with my faithful 44 magnums. I think I will go 460 S&W if I choose X-Frame. It is a bit more versatile with the ability to use 454 & 45 Colt. 45 bullets offer a bit more variety as well. But I can't knock that beast of a bullet in the 500. Good stuff.
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There’s no such thing as overkill when it comes to firearms!! I don’t own an X frame, but I have an N frame Model 29-2 with an 8 3/8” barrel. My friends talked me into bringing it hunting last year. I was hoping to get a hog with it, but didn’t get an opportunity. Gonna try again this year. I think I had some 240 grain XTP’s loaded with H110 powder.
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That’s my favorite ammo. This week I’ve just started loading this 350gr XTP mag bullet over H110 to see if I can get close to this same performance.
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Living in Alaska, and spending a lot of time outdoors, there is definitely a purpose. I carry the 6.5" version in a Diamond D chest rig and use Buffalo Bore 440gr. hardcast rounds for Grizzly protection, if I'm not carrying a hunting rifle. If I have my rifle with me I carry a Ruger GP 100 7 shot .357 mag with hardcast rounds. I like the 500 but it can be a lot to pack when you have other things to carry as well.
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Who cars if it’s practical .... god I love mine !!! It’s the most fun you can have with a gun and don’t forget the .460 also its just as fun. I like the underwood ammo .
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Had one borrowed from a neighbor for a year or so. Loaded 350g Speer Soft Points (Cheapest 500 Bullet) with 41.0g of H110. Absolute blast to shoot. Great range toy. I enjoyed letting other people shoot it more than shooting it myself. We were in TN shooting and every time we needed a break I would get it out and lay over all the steel targets.
Not over kill, very practical in any situations, loaded up with 43gr h110 with 350gr hornady xtp winchester lrp, mass destruction, massive recoil, massive fireball, massive impression
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My ex-fatherinlaw didn't crimp enough and the bullets came out from the recoil. Scary situation because one of the rounds failed to fire the powder and the primer pushed the bullet into the barrel. Thank God we checked because we could have easily figured it was a miss-fire and just went onto the next round. Further investigation found all the bullets had jumped out of the case powder was everywhere, so ya CRIMP is a must.
Forgot to mention it was a 4xx grain bullet
I load these in my 50 beowulf...... the energy dump is like drinking a cup of laxative after a solid night of eating prime rib. Holy crap! Think of the scene in dumb and dumber on the toilet. Love you guys!
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Some nerd somewhere; "aktshually, this bullet doesn't go 2200 fps so it is inferior to 223 remington for lethality"
i get 2200 from this bullet in hornadys factory loading in my encore
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I have a 460 with a 5inch barrel. An with 200 grain still get 2,000 fps. Love hunting with handguns.
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Nice video. I'm considering getting back into the .500 S&W, had one years ago but mainly because it's so versatile, you can go all out or load up some reduced loads and still have something quite substantial. Been mulling over reduced load possibilities for several days now.
700 grain matts bullets + 23.5 grains H110 + leadfree LPP with a lil titegroupstartup = fun!
Although may need to lower the pressure as I did have 3 out of 20 pierced primers.
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I use a Thompson Center Katahdin chambered in 500 S&W. It is a really fun way to shoot that cartridge.
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Using 41 grains with a 350 gr XTP with CCI magnum primers 1650 fps for white tail. Thank you for this video.
500 is very popular in 16” Encore barrels. People shoot everything with them. Moose bear deer squirrels neighbors.
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I shoot the 500 S&W magnum in a BHA, you guys should try and get your hands on one and do a review..
Then you will see those 350 gr XTPs move close to 1850 fps, I also shoot Sierras four hundred gr flat point…..And cast 440gr wadcutters and 600 gr HPs 😀
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I had a bullet from Federal come out and lock up my cylinder on my 500 S&W. It was a pain to get it open. I just pushed the bullet back into the case and fired it anyway.
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Love the XTP, its what I loaded in my 500 for while. I cast for it also
The 500 Mag will be a must have to stop the A.I. Terminators coming soon! 😮
You need to try that round out of the big horn armory model 89.
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With that power, if you hit someone in the groin the shock would disintegrate the spleen and liver. The are not many "safe" places to get hit by that round.
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I think it's very practical, it definitely needs specialty set up such as strapping it to your chest but in that configuration it's going to be a lot easier to quickly access then a big old 45-70 rifle
I shoot 500 S&W out of an Encore with a 22" bbl. My current favorite is a 350gr Sierra JHP over 44gr 4227 with a Federal LR Magnum primer. She'll punch through both handles of a beer keg at 100 yards. What's not practical about that?
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I knew an old farmhand who called his 500 mag a "sasquatch gun" because if you heard a sasquatch in the night you would feel better with it in your hand. he also put 22lr in that category because both those calibers have mythical properties if you ask the right people. I don't own one but I would buy one if I was visiting my family in Idaho during the winter when I wouldn't be able to use bear spray effectively which is my a preference over a firearm because I don't have the best aim under pressure.
Nice video guys ! I love new reloading information.
I have the same revolver in the video.
I am using 332. gn, flat point , copper jacket with 35.7 gn. Of lil' gun.
Great results up to 100yd so far .it's about 1690fps .
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How lightly were these loaded? That result isn't much different from some .45acp loads, and others are easily getting ~26" penetration with .500 HPs.
350gr sierras nearly max charge h110. 3” at 50 yards using a 2x scope.
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Oh yeah 500 magnum love!
I love my four inch 500. Mostly run a four hundred at 1100 or so. I live in northwest Wyoming and we are overrun with grizzlies. I carry it in a chest holster with some speed strips.
The big horn lever gun can run those 350 xtps at 2200 fps if ya want. Shot a bull elk with my prototype, broke the left hip. He went downhill towards my jeep but I ran out of daylight. Came back in the morning and found him dead. Probably asked too much of that bullet at that speed. I only push them to 2000 now.
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And do you continue to use the ultra dyne c4 sights?
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No red dot holds up long term with the 500. Even the Leupold 4x handgun scope doesn’t last. I’m currently, using the Leupold 4x.
I have a500 with 4" barrel, reload 250 grain Hornady polymer tip sst. I use it for hunting coyote,elk, and bear, plus self defense especially when the burgler is hiding behind the neighbors refrigerator
The s&w 460 mag is a pretty hot round
Any plans to buy the new 350 legend S&W pistol for the channel?
Is it overkill? That depends. Do you want rifle power in a handgun to hunt big game? Then, no, it isn’t overkill. Do you want to hunt squirrels? Then, wtf are you thinking?!!
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I have a H&R with a 22in barrel chambered in 500 S&W currently shooting Hornaday FTX at 2419fps with a SD of 6 and ES of 17fps. I currently use it to hunt whitetail and black bear.
What powder, primer and case are you using to get SD and ES that low?
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@@davidtolley1374 I'm using remington large rifle magnum primers with 50gr of hodgdon H110 using a pressure gage on handle of press for consistent crimp pressure. Those numbers was from a 10 shot string over my magneto speed.
Hornady bullets won't hold up to hand load velocities
You should test some of the hammer hunter bullets
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can you do a show on flat base bullets and boat-tail bullets, what is best for short range and what is good for long range??
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~1700 from the revolver, so what would it do from a longer barrel like a lever action (or equivalent 16+ inch length) rifle?
the revolver makes sense if you have a rifle in 500 mag
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Imagine that round from say an 18 or so inch lever gun. Probably get close to 2000 fps, would be an amazing brush gun for dangerous game defense, or for hunting large game at closer distance.
I prefer smaller and lighter for chest carry. 500 JRH or 475 Linebaugh.
I shoot a 350 GR XTP MAG. LIL GUN POWDER. ITS A BEAST
If you place a high shoulder shot, by the way is the only and best shot placement on a whitetail , the 500 will drive it to the ground like a sledgehammer. But be sure you are wearing earpro, or it will feel like someone stabbed you in the eardrums.😁
The 500 will kill anything on this planet....
can it mount a red dot on it?
I’ve got the 460 not got the 500 yet
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Got a .500 S&W H&R Handi Rifle. That's recoil enough for me. Your revolver does not look "comfortable" to me.
Interesting, .500 S&W in a rifle…. I’m intrigued for sure!
@@Gundyadventures Just wish someone would make a reasonably priced lever gun in it. The Bighorn Armory version isn't reasonable...lol.
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I'd love to build a carbine in 500SW
I’ve got a 44 magnum that is enough.
You guys keep talking about massive wound channels, this time you said 12", is this the temporary wound channels? If so, from what I hear is that the temporary wound channels has little effect on killing power. Most animal tissue does expand like the temporary wound channels shows, it also contracts back to nearly normal just as quick.
The permanent wound channels is the better indicator of killing power. Those pathway is where the animal bleeds out through. After the temporary wound channels collapse back to normal no blood flows from them.
Even in high velocity rifle cartridges the so called hydrostatic pressure created has little effect on killing power.
Overkill? Not really because dead is dead as long as you're not trying to keep the meat from the animal if it's the size of a jack rabbit lol but I have one and I shoot mostly extreme 325grn plated bullets with a 18.5grn charge of longshot using the 350xtp oal because all my books just have barnes load data for 325 grain bullets and they're super long so the xtp oal works fine and for the heavier bullets I use my own hard cast and powdercoated 440grn rnfp bullets with 4227 going 1500fps and no gas check and it's never left any lead in my barrel
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I run a jack hammer for a living, and every morning i shoot a cylinder off as a warm up...
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It might be nice to have but living in the lower 48 I can't see a real need if you lived in Alaska and we're terrified of bears then maby
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It serves no practical purpose. If you want practical, get a 460. But not everything in life has to be practical to be enjoyable.
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Surely don't want to hit any of them meat with a bullet like this...
give it a but stock.
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Title 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law · Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., § 52 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, § 20, 35 Stat. 1092).
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• Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.
TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
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Has anyone fired a 700 grain hard cast at a level 4 ceramic plate? I want to, but can't justify destroying a plate out of curiosity with mine.