The point is you have no existence outside the construct. When all constructs fall away, there is only pure awareness, egoless presence, deep peace, spontaneous effortless joyous creativity, and the realization that only the Supreme Being Is.
ALL You say here, Brother, is what I try not to forget today. And by pure coincidence sth leads me to your oldest video on RUclips 😉 Thank You 😊 LOTS of LOVE from Poland on IT'S way to YOU!
STAR not so much. I am a Doctoral Candidate of Clinical Psychology. One of my frameworks is Transpersonal Psychology. My dissertation discusses Transpersonal psychology. We are Souls, Spirits and Humans. We are Spirits in a human experience but the human experience is an illusion which becomes our truth. When you know this, you will understand the important of spirituality and psychology. Just as there is a Doctor for every part of the body, Psychology was created as a head doctor. Although this video was beautifully stated, liberation is not always easy for some. It’s actually easier said than done. God and Spirituality is freedom, but one must first Transcend beyond their ego, that is where Transpersonal psychology and modern psychology comes in.
My life moves with grace. I use my intuition wisely. I see connections and the deeper truths. All that I need is within me. I dwell in the state of presence. I am a timeless, eternal being, connected to the wisdom of the Universe. I see challenges in my life with great clarity. I learn from the challenges in my life, they are spiritual lessons. I love and accept myself. I open myself to insights and clarity.
Enlightenment is only that simple if you've already walked a good portion of the journey. To drop the persona a seeker has to face their fears, trauma, illusions; there isn't any other way, there are no shortcuts. Even Buddha sat under a tree for days fasting and facing his inner self. This is the purpose of transpersonal psychotherapy and meditation practice.
And, the mythological side of the story is that Guatama Siddhartha faced Mara (the Hindu devil) at the bodhi tree. The "devil" is only ourself...the part of us that we dismiss out of a (illusory) moral imperative.
yes. yes . yes. and to transpersonal psychology. yes. i love it. its catapulting me beyond my mind into an embodied state of expanded transcendence and somatically experienced presence. awakening can happen in spite of a fascination with transpersonal psychology and awakening... this is yoga of the new paradigm
@viorelagocs Awareness is not a construct. It is That which can never become a construct. Words are only used on a true path to deconstruct the constructs that are already there, blocking the way to silence. The point is not the concepts, but the practice. Be without constructs. If that is a construct, then it is so because all words are constructs. But one who is intelligent will not confuse the moon with the finger that points to it. All blessings. Namaste, Shunyamurti
(Part 2) That is why they are called psychologies, and they grant themselves the right to diagnose other people's psychological states. Their common ground is the very paradigm that nonduality questions. The Advaita path requires piercing through the pseudo-reality of a world or an individual psyche, regardless of whether it is a psyche identified with particular signifiers or not.
what i am is not LIMITED to this person, but i am also this person. what i am is beyond this person, but it includes this person's in this moment of its lifetime and its ability to comprehend. is there no reason for the person? is it just this thing to be transcended? is it just this suffering being to be disidentified with? is this not bypassing? i see the spiritual journey as going THROUGH the personal. through suffering, healing, deepening our compassion for others and sharing with them what we have learned through our suffering. this lifetime is a journey. it is a mistake to identify absolutely with the person who was born and will die, but it is just as much a mistake to deny that in this moment, it appears i am this person and i am limited by this person's experience, and so i accept its sufferings and its joys and its growth and its decay, all with a sense of humor and humility. i work hard to build up a life, i strive and i achieve, all the while knowing my art will decay and die, like a sand mandala meticulously constructed and cast to the sea. our daily experience is fluid with moments of identifying with our person (which itsself fluctuates moment to moment) and moments in which we remeber to step back and wonder at what we are and what existence is. our identity flickers. be careful not to deny the personal level though and to be detached from this lifetime. it is all significant, all aspects of the mystery, a composite, a complete fractal whole, integral. don't overlook the illusion, discard it as false. it is also valid. i'm speaking as one who has spent five years misunderstanding these concepts and neglecting the importance and beauty of this human life, of the potential to create a life! how cool is that! the point is just to not suffer. to not have our perception of what we are be limited. to stay wonderous, open, amazed, creative, watching the show while playing the part.
i enjoyed reading yours. the others made me laugh. .what you say feels good; . according to my Psychoenergetic Therapist my inner child has been running my show for the past 50 years. I am just learning now how to heal the wounded child so i can create better relationships and let gifts grow.
I agree wholeheartedly that we can transcend the person...such a thing is wholly natural and the ulitimate destiny of all aware beings...but I also vigorously assert that who we are right now is of preeminent importance. On the path to anywhere, one must start somewhere, and the beginning is who you are right now.
(Part 1) Disidentification is not the same as Self realization. The transpersonal psychologies you speak of remain within the triputis, the naive common sense structure of knower, knowing, and known. They do not question the reality of the world or the individual, only the symbolic structuring of the individual psyche. The premise of being a psyche within a world remains unexamined.
@GnosisMan50 Through forgetting the Self. It was a gradual process of entropy. And now, through remembrance of the Self, our soul battery becomes recharged, and we can ascend out of the labyrinth once more....
(Part 3) It still remains a speaking subject. And Advaita requires not only a theoretical transcendence, as many psychologists settle for, but a one-way ticket to the Absolute. The stakes are infinitely greater.
One cannot escape duality . Avoiding or disassociating from the “suffering” that inevitably happens from being a BEING that is designed in every way to engage, connect and feel just makes for a life void of rich color. One cannot escape construct when one is a construct. All you can do is study the constructs and rearrange them for optimal function ~ be your own psychologist (if you have the capacity) 🥂🙂
(Part 2) dimension. I do not know exactly what you mean by "transpsyche" so it is difficult to comment on that. If by psyche, you mean soul, then transpersonal psychology does deal with that level, but it also explores the level beyond, that is often called Spirit. But from an idealistic paradigm, all is psyche, in the larger sense, that all Being and beings arise as expressions of the infinite Mind of the Absolute.
You haven't wasted any time. Your process of "self" betterment is merely a preparation for letting go. I suggest spending some time with Nietchze's "Thus spake Zarathustra"; the pivotal point to study is the emergence of the ubermensch, which occurs when man observes the lack of inherent meaning and truth in the universe, and realizes that this is the basis for total personal liberation - because "nothing matters" you are free to do anything or be anyone.
Yep, which is literally psychology… but I’m sure if I am using the construct of psychology I’ll engage the confirmation bias of those seeing the comment that I am in the labyrinth. 😂
The definitions of what the so called psyche includes differ. For Jung f.i. the trans-personal realms of the collective unconscious were a part of the psyche. I'm not too familiar with transpersonal psychology, but it seems like the whole idea that the psyche includes much more than just the personal is what distinguishes it from other schools. "Transpersonal consciousness transcends the boundaries of the body/Ego and the usual limitations of linear time and space" according to Stanislav Grof - so it's pretty much what Shunyamurti talks about in this video. So I guess what he's referring to is true for contemporary mainstream psychology's definition and view of the psyche. I also think there's a difference still between disidentifying with the Ego and the whole person. A person is more than his/her stories/Ego. This kind of ties into the Buddhist Madhyamaka notion of the immanence of the Transcendent/void/absolute within form/relativity and vice versa. You can't fully seperate one from the other.
If I have worked my entire life in this construct, trying to better the me that is within the construct, only to accept that me is an illusion, then what is the the point in my existence outside the construct? I'm afraid your lecture has left me with more questions than answers...
(Part 1) Transpersonal psychology is concerned with subjectivity more than with behavior, although it includes behavior as well. I would not limit its concern to mystics, either. So, for example, transpersonal psychology studies near death experiences, which occur to non-mystics, and in which no behavior of the organism may be involved. It is an empirical question whether the NDE is caused by, and occurs in, the brain, or if it is truly an event occurring to the disembodied soul in another
Psychology is concerned with human behavior. Transpersonal psychologists are simply concerned with the behavior of the mystics in the world; they inquire into how the human's behavior is animated by nondual consciousness. Transpersonal does not mean transpsyche. Am I off with this?
"When you get transpersonal you are transpsychological" -- nah. That is true of the psychology you to talk about, but it's not true of all psychology. Many psychologies do teach disidentification, which is why they call themselves transpersonal. Transpersonal psychologists would agree with what you say about identification with a construct. It's pretty easy to say "psychology has nothing to do with spirituality" if you then ignore all the psychology that contradicts what you're saying.
I'll take Michael Washburn's and the Transpersonal Psychology's insights into the multi dimensional Self over your false teaching any day! Your teaching is incomplete and reflects the spiritual bypass, which is a major pitfall on the path.
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The point is you have no existence outside the construct. When all constructs fall away, there is only pure awareness, egoless presence, deep peace, spontaneous effortless joyous creativity, and the realization that only the Supreme Being Is.
There is so much space in the absence of the contraction of the ego.
ALL You say here, Brother, is what I try not to forget today.
And by pure coincidence sth leads me to your oldest video on RUclips 😉
Thank You 😊
LOTS of LOVE from Poland on IT'S way to YOU!
You are freeing so many of us with your astute analysis.! Blessed we are, thanks to your generosity🙏
These Teachings would shut down mainstream counselling clinics around the world
STAR not so much. I am a Doctoral Candidate of Clinical Psychology. One of my frameworks is Transpersonal Psychology. My dissertation discusses Transpersonal psychology. We are Souls, Spirits and Humans. We are Spirits in a human experience but the human experience is an illusion which becomes our truth. When you know this, you will understand the important of spirituality and psychology. Just as there is a Doctor for every part of the body, Psychology was created as a head doctor. Although this video was beautifully stated, liberation is not always easy for some. It’s actually easier said than done. God and Spirituality is freedom, but one must first Transcend beyond their ego, that is where Transpersonal psychology and modern psychology comes in.
My life moves with grace.
I use my intuition wisely.
I see connections and the deeper truths.
All that I need is within me.
I dwell in the state of presence.
I am a timeless, eternal being,
connected to the wisdom of the Universe.
I see challenges in my life with great clarity.
I learn from the challenges in my life,
they are spiritual lessons.
I love and accept myself.
I open myself to insights and clarity.
thank you I hope great things bless your life in all aspects.
Insightful. I like his style of delivery.
Enlightenment is only that simple if you've already walked a good portion of the journey. To drop the persona a seeker has to face their fears, trauma, illusions; there isn't any other way, there are no shortcuts. Even Buddha sat under a tree for days fasting and facing his inner self. This is the purpose of transpersonal psychotherapy and meditation practice.
Exactly very true .
Most excellently put.
And, the mythological side of the story is that Guatama Siddhartha faced Mara (the Hindu devil) at the bodhi tree.
The "devil" is only ourself...the part of us that we dismiss out of a (illusory) moral imperative.
yes. yes . yes. and to transpersonal psychology. yes. i love it. its catapulting me beyond my mind into an embodied state of expanded transcendence and somatically experienced presence. awakening can happen in spite of a fascination with transpersonal psychology and awakening... this is yoga of the new paradigm
@viorelagocs Awareness is not a construct. It is That which can never become a construct. Words are only used on a true path to deconstruct the constructs that are already there, blocking the way to silence. The point is not the concepts, but the practice. Be without constructs. If that is a construct, then it is so because all words are constructs. But one who is intelligent will not confuse the moon with the finger that points to it. All blessings.
Namaste,
Shunyamurti
i wanna smoke a joint with this guy
(Part 2) That is why they are called psychologies, and they grant themselves the right to diagnose other people's psychological states. Their common ground is the very paradigm that nonduality questions. The Advaita path requires piercing through the pseudo-reality of a world or an individual psyche, regardless of whether it is a psyche identified with particular signifiers or not.
Thank you Shunya!!
Speaks loudly 🙂🙏
im touched. thank you.
what i am is not LIMITED to this person, but i am also this person. what i am is beyond this person, but it includes this person's in this moment of its lifetime and its ability to comprehend. is there no reason for the person? is it just this thing to be transcended? is it just this suffering being to be disidentified with? is this not bypassing? i see the spiritual journey as going THROUGH the personal. through suffering, healing, deepening our compassion for others and sharing with them what we have learned through our suffering. this lifetime is a journey. it is a mistake to identify absolutely with the person who was born and will die, but it is just as much a mistake to deny that in this moment, it appears i am this person and i am limited by this person's experience, and so i accept its sufferings and its joys and its growth and its decay, all with a sense of humor and humility. i work hard to build up a life, i strive and i achieve, all the while knowing my art will decay and die, like a sand mandala meticulously constructed and cast to the sea. our daily experience is fluid with moments of identifying with our person (which itsself fluctuates moment to moment) and moments in which we remeber to step back and wonder at what we are and what existence is. our identity flickers. be careful not to deny the personal level though and to be detached from this lifetime. it is all significant, all aspects of the mystery, a composite, a complete fractal whole, integral. don't overlook the illusion, discard it as false. it is also valid. i'm speaking as one who has spent five years misunderstanding these concepts and neglecting the importance and beauty of this human life, of the potential to create a life! how cool is that! the point is just to not suffer. to not have our perception of what we are be limited. to stay wonderous, open, amazed, creative, watching the show while playing the part.
i enjoyed reading yours. the others made me laugh. .what you say feels good; . according to my Psychoenergetic Therapist my inner child has been running my show for the past 50 years. I am just learning now how to heal the wounded child so i can create better relationships and let gifts grow.
I agree wholeheartedly that we can transcend the person...such a thing is wholly natural and the ulitimate destiny of all aware beings...but I also vigorously assert that who we are right now is of preeminent importance. On the path to anywhere, one must start somewhere, and the beginning is who you are right now.
(Part 1) Disidentification is not the same as Self realization. The transpersonal psychologies you speak of remain within the triputis, the naive common sense structure of knower, knowing, and known. They do not question the reality of the world or the individual, only the symbolic structuring of the individual psyche. The premise of being a psyche within a world remains unexamined.
@GnosisMan50 Through forgetting the Self. It was a gradual process of entropy. And now, through remembrance of the Self, our soul battery becomes recharged, and we can ascend out of the labyrinth once more....
(Part 3) It still remains a speaking subject. And Advaita requires not only a theoretical transcendence, as many psychologists settle for, but a one-way ticket to the Absolute. The stakes are infinitely greater.
Identified as one of the characters from Airplane (the original) not the remake and never quite left the role. I know its a joke I am awakening.
@satyogainstitute Thank you. Looking forward for your inspiring videos.
The truth would shut down most institutions. Illusions, or delusions, are fed by self-fulfilling prophesies.
One cannot escape duality . Avoiding or disassociating from the “suffering” that inevitably happens from being a BEING that is designed in every way to engage, connect and feel just makes for a life void of rich color. One cannot escape construct when one is a construct. All you can do is study the constructs and rearrange them for optimal function ~ be your own psychologist (if you have the capacity) 🥂🙂
This believe will trap you.. why would you limit yourself to that?
Very profound
(Part 2) dimension. I do not know exactly what you mean by "transpsyche" so it is difficult to comment on that. If by psyche, you mean soul, then transpersonal psychology does deal with that level, but it also explores the level beyond, that is often called Spirit. But from an idealistic paradigm, all is psyche, in the larger sense, that all Being and beings arise as expressions of the infinite Mind of the Absolute.
this guy is like a cross between Kevin Costner, Antony Bourdain, and Moses.
😂
How did we get into the labyrinth in the first place?
This was interesting 👍🏼
Thank you
This is great, great, stuff!!!!
You haven't wasted any time. Your process of "self" betterment is merely a preparation for letting go.
I suggest spending some time with Nietchze's "Thus spake Zarathustra"; the pivotal point to study is the emergence of the ubermensch, which occurs when man observes the lack of inherent meaning and truth in the universe, and realizes that this is the basis for total personal liberation - because "nothing matters" you are free to do anything or be anyone.
Is it possible that what he describes as a trans-personal awareness, liberated of all constructs, is also a construct?...
Yep, which is literally psychology… but I’m sure if I am using the construct of psychology I’ll engage the confirmation bias of those seeing the comment that I am in the labyrinth. 😂
gr8ful
The definitions of what the so called psyche includes differ. For Jung f.i. the trans-personal realms of the collective unconscious were a part of the psyche. I'm not too familiar with transpersonal psychology, but it seems like the whole idea that the psyche includes much more than just the personal is what distinguishes it from other schools. "Transpersonal consciousness transcends the boundaries of the body/Ego and the usual limitations of linear time and space" according to Stanislav Grof - so it's pretty much what Shunyamurti talks about in this video.
So I guess what he's referring to is true for contemporary mainstream psychology's definition and view of the psyche.
I also think there's a difference still between disidentifying with the Ego and the whole person. A person is more than his/her stories/Ego. This kind of ties into the Buddhist Madhyamaka notion of the immanence of the Transcendent/void/absolute within form/relativity and vice versa. You can't fully seperate one from the other.
Love this...be the witness, Yes? :)
amazing
If I have worked my entire life in this construct, trying to better the me that is within the construct, only to accept that me is an illusion, then what is the the point in my existence outside the construct? I'm afraid your lecture has left me with more questions than answers...
amello10199 because we are here just to exist. Just enjoy what you have created for yourself.
finally God is talking to us :)
So good. Such a clear and to the point recognition of the truth. Thanks.
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(Part 1) Transpersonal psychology is concerned with subjectivity more than with behavior, although it includes behavior as well. I would not limit its concern to mystics, either. So, for example, transpersonal psychology studies near death experiences, which occur to non-mystics, and in which no behavior of the organism may be involved. It is an empirical question whether the NDE is caused by, and occurs in, the brain, or if it is truly an event occurring to the disembodied soul in another
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Psychology is concerned with human behavior. Transpersonal psychologists are simply concerned with the behavior of the mystics in the world; they inquire into how the human's behavior is animated by nondual consciousness. Transpersonal does not mean transpsyche. Am I off with this?
"When you get transpersonal you are transpsychological" -- nah. That is true of the psychology you to talk about, but it's not true of all psychology. Many psychologies do teach disidentification, which is why they call themselves transpersonal. Transpersonal psychologists would agree with what you say about identification with a construct.
It's pretty easy to say "psychology has nothing to do with spirituality" if you then ignore all the psychology that contradicts what you're saying.
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uhm... GOD? IS THAT YOU?
I'll take Michael Washburn's and the Transpersonal Psychology's insights into the multi dimensional Self over your false teaching any day! Your teaching is incomplete and reflects the spiritual bypass, which is a major pitfall on the path.
Can u please elaborate on that ?