Excellent work! As I watched I could see your knowledge grow. What great learning! There’s lots of useful tips in these comments so I look forward to your next steps.
The best mix for this has already been found. 2/3's paper shredder paper/cardboard slush with 1/3 sawdust. Mixed with a almost any form of mixing devise. A Cement Mixer works best. The paper you are showing is too course. When compressing the mix you need to give the water a way out so you need holes in the pipe to let the water out. But overall good trial and error and learning from your mistakes.
Worked with a wood shop doing a similar thing a few years ago, the sawdust was too fine and the brickets when burned crumbled. In the end soaking a mix of sawdust and shredded paper waste from a few local companies made good binding agent. They also had holes in the compression tube to let water out, they captured the water and reused it.
80k views, a dozen smiles and a few chuckles per view! Thats a lot of happiness added to the world. Thanks for a fun, cute, informational video. How did the log burn?
It was a lot of fun. We learned that it takes a long time to make one good log because we had to leave each one in the press for so long in order to get them to really stay together and burn well.
At last someone doing briquettes that speaks English .I have watched a lot of Briquetting machines and i think you need to have your pipe flexible at the end to stop the shattering .Most pipes are split along the sides to allow the briquette to flow through .Have a look at some you tube clips and you will see what i'm talking about.But well done and show us what you have created since your last try .
A young Engineer of the future.. Experimenting all possibilities... The only thing I missed understanding, is what all materials did he mix with the sawdust.. Will be thankful, if he will write... For easy understanding
hardeep singh, thank you! We tried mixing in plain water, then we tried used vegetable oil, we tried mixing flour and water, we tried shredded paper and cardboard soaked in water. Then we mixed all those things and tried leaving it in the press overnight. The thing that seemed to make the most improvement was the longer time in the press.
Suspect your press doesn’t have enough power. Industrial systems also tend to use a tapered die so they don’t need a gate at the end the force of the log to a narrower channel does the work. There’s no holes in the industrial die for water just the raw horsepower used will cause enough heating to make the lignin plasticize and act as a bonding agent. I know for small personal pellet mills some folks will add soybeans to help act as a bonding agent.
If y'all are still interested in working on this, may I suggest that you have the mould taper very slightly outwards as it goes? That way, when the end is opened, pressing on the log will release it from the sides as well, preventing friction from wrecking it. The first simple way is to angle the half-pipes slightly away from each other and fill the resulting gap in with some sheet steel. The second is to form the mould from strips of steel welded into a tapered sunburst pattern, with very narrow gaps between them. This will not only allow you to create uniformly round logs but will allow water to easily escape *AND* make the mould *very* strong.
from what I have seen.........the material has to be at a give moisture content then the compression heats the material causing the ligum in the wood to become the glue it is and bond the cellulose together............ergo if it aint steaming when it comes out it isnt hot enough. I think the pellet mills are shooting for 15% moisture content when they compress the pellets.
Great idea and attitude its smart using flour as it is used commercially in charcoal briquettes as a binder the issue you are having is that the amount of saw dust you used is to high I would suggest 1-1-1-1 ratio of saw dust cardboard pulp paper pulp and flour also make a way to drain the water as water trapped in the log will prevent the materials from binding
Part of the problem is the jolting of the press forcing out the logs aswell as engine almost stalling under load wallpaper paste is a good bonding agent
If you are still experimenting with this project try using a pipe no larger than 1 and a half inches diameter to get enough psi. Your pipe should be about 2 ft long with a slot cut on either side half the length of the pipe. Using clamps on the slotted end of the pipe,you can adjust the pressure to the pipe instead of a gate. By using this method you are able to use just sawdust at 10 to 15% moisture with no additives or binders.
The truth world, we just added enough of the water and flour until it had a good consistency to pack into a ball by hand. We added the one small bag of flour into the large wheel barrel full of sawdust. Then just enough water to make it moist enough to pack into a ball. Then pressed it and let it stay in the press overnight for the best briquettes. The briquettes tended to fall apart if we didn’t press them long enough.
The water ain't getting completely squeezed out and it looks like your machine keeps pushing the water back in as it packs it which isn't what you want it to do
I think you guys need to drill some holes in it at the area where it compacts so It can let the water Xscape more out of it and it will dry and form much better
@@steppbysteppcreations2072 try yard sales look for old candles sometimes some of them haven't even been used or look around your house or ask a friends and if they have candles they don't use also you can buy Gulf Wax for $3.00 or so at your local stores even hardware stores and Wal-Mart
That baby is custom made from top to bottom… it was a super fun project but probably not worth all that went into it. We did make some nice logs that turned out great, but we had to leave them in the press for so long that it took way too much time per log to be worth doing for much more than a novelty.
Hope Ur not still looking for a solution, as this vid was posted 2 years ago. What more can be said? Escarpment 4 water, and a longer election tube will generate the frictional heat that is needed, to activate Lignin bonding.
Young man. This was far best. It is nice to see young man doing experiment to enhance their skill. Keep up the good work.
Ramiro Membreno, Thank You
Great attitude, bud! Never quit
Excellent work! As I watched I could see your knowledge grow. What great learning!
There’s lots of useful tips in these comments so I look forward to your next steps.
Respect, this kid is learning real knowledge!!!
Thomas Edison said “Genius is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.” This lad is a budding Edison; he doesn’t give up. 👍
The best mix for this has already been found. 2/3's paper shredder paper/cardboard slush with 1/3 sawdust. Mixed with a almost any form of mixing devise. A Cement Mixer works best. The paper you are showing is too course. When compressing the mix you need to give the water a way out so you need holes in the pipe to let the water out. But overall good trial and error and learning from your mistakes.
Young man you are going to make an excellent engineer or scientist. You like to experiment and are not scared of getting dirty.
Great job lil man! Love how you never gave up.
Good job dad !!
This young man is going places!!! He will be successful at anything he does. This gives me hope for the next generations,great job!!!
Good job, your persistence paid off.
Worked with a wood shop doing a similar thing a few years ago, the sawdust was too fine and the brickets when burned crumbled. In the end soaking a mix of sawdust and shredded paper waste from a few local companies made good binding agent.
They also had holes in the compression tube to let water out, they captured the water and reused it.
Pretty sure this was filmed before the internet existed.
80k views, a dozen smiles and a few chuckles per view! Thats a lot of happiness added to the world. Thanks for a fun, cute, informational video. How did the log burn?
It was a lot of fun. We learned that it takes a long time to make one good log because we had to leave each one in the press for so long in order to get them to really stay together and burn well.
Great job young man and much respect to you dad for helping and teaching our next generation..
What a fun video! This is what raising a kid should look like :D
At last someone doing briquettes that speaks English .I have watched a lot of Briquetting machines and i think you need to have your pipe flexible at the end to stop the shattering .Most pipes are split along the sides to allow the briquette to flow through .Have a look at some you tube clips and you will see what i'm talking about.But well done and show us what you have created since your last try .
I would love to see an update on what you have learned over the last 4 years.
A young Engineer of the future..
Experimenting all possibilities...
The only thing I missed understanding, is what all materials did he mix with the sawdust..
Will be thankful, if he will write... For easy understanding
hardeep singh, thank you!
We tried mixing in plain water, then we tried used vegetable oil, we tried mixing flour and water, we tried shredded paper and cardboard soaked in water. Then we mixed all those things and tried leaving it in the press overnight. The thing that seemed to make the most improvement was the longer time in the press.
I like your vidio, very simple to explane how to make.....
Suspect your press doesn’t have enough power. Industrial systems also tend to use a tapered die so they don’t need a gate at the end the force of the log to a narrower channel does the work. There’s no holes in the industrial die for water just the raw horsepower used will cause enough heating to make the lignin plasticize and act as a bonding agent. I know for small personal pellet mills some folks will add soybeans to help act as a bonding agent.
He’s growing up the right way 👍
Great Experiment!
Thanks! It was a lot of fun.
Reminds me of science projects in middle school. 😁
At 6:50, I thought I saw a puddy cat. Cat shit that's what you need to bond the sawdust.
If y'all are still interested in working on this, may I suggest that you have the mould taper very slightly outwards as it goes? That way, when the end is opened, pressing on the log will release it from the sides as well, preventing friction from wrecking it. The first simple way is to angle the half-pipes slightly away from each other and fill the resulting gap in with some sheet steel. The second is to form the mould from strips of steel welded into a tapered sunburst pattern, with very narrow gaps between them. This will not only allow you to create uniformly round logs but will allow water to easily escape *AND* make the mould *very* strong.
from what I have seen.........the material has to be at a give moisture content then the compression heats the material causing the ligum in the wood to become the glue it is and bond the cellulose together............ergo if it aint steaming when it comes out it isnt hot enough.
I think the pellet mills are shooting for 15% moisture content when they compress the pellets.
That’s a good thought. Thanks for commenting. It has been a fun project.
He will be great scientist/ engineer!! Cat definately will not help!
Also, try a longer pipe. Something about 10 feet long, that is open on the sides for the final half.
Great idea and attitude its smart using flour as it is used commercially in charcoal briquettes as a binder the issue you are having is that the amount of saw dust you used is to high I would suggest 1-1-1-1 ratio of saw dust cardboard pulp paper pulp and flour also make a way to drain the water as water trapped in the log will prevent the materials from binding
These are great ideas to try. Thanks for the input!
hmmm yeah longer pipe to compress in.. push out on to a movable rack? then dry for a few days.
Remember you learn just as much if not more when you fail.never give up you'll get it
Mark Mark, thanks for the encouragement!
you need to drill a bunch of 1/4" holes in your tube to get more water out then the logs will hold together better
Thank you for the advice. We’ll have to give that a try. Because leaving them in the press overnight just isn’t feasible for producing any quantity.
Try sawdust that is not dried out. If the wood is green, it has more sap in it. That may help to bind it together.
Plz can you explain this for me❤
That was fun.
Part of the problem is the jolting of the press forcing out the logs aswell as engine almost stalling under load wallpaper paste is a good bonding agent
Thanks man. Those are good thought.
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Good job
1 Rvtastic thank you!
If you are still experimenting with this project try using a pipe no larger than 1 and a half inches diameter to get enough psi. Your pipe should be about 2 ft long with a slot cut on either side half the length of the pipe. Using clamps on the slotted end of the pipe,you can adjust the pressure to the pipe instead of a gate. By using this method you are able to use just sawdust at 10 to 15% moisture with no additives or binders.
How much countitee brand flour you use in this mixture and also tell me please procegure of water sawdust????
The truth world, we just added enough of the water and flour until it had a good consistency to pack into a ball by hand. We added the one small bag of flour into the large wheel barrel full of sawdust. Then just enough water to make it moist enough to pack into a ball. Then pressed it and let it stay in the press overnight for the best briquettes. The briquettes tended to fall apart if we didn’t press them long enough.
Thanks a lot god bless you❣️
Need heat to get ligum in the sawdust to bind like in pelletizer
Not sure what that is but thanks for the input. I’ll have to look it up. Thanks.
ጅግና ኢኻ ኮታ ! Brave young man Holes needed to squeeze then it takes two weeks to dry paper & saw dust is better
Yacob Semere, thank you. We’ll have to make some adjustments and give that a try. We appreciate the input.
The water ain't getting completely squeezed out and it looks like your machine keeps pushing the water back in as it packs it which isn't what you want it to do
Bravo
I think you guys need to drill some holes in it at the area where it compacts so It can let the water Xscape more out of it and it will dry and form much better
Thanks for the thought. And thanks for checking out the video.
A for effort.
Thanks man
Need a cement mixer ! Lol
What is the tonnage of the press?
Need around 3 to 5 tonnes per square inch. Doesn't look to me if there's enough compression force.
Use petroleum jelly and paraffin wax heated and blended warm in small batches.it comes out like a tootsie roll.
Nice. Thanks for the advise.
Ground corn.?
Who's flour use in this material.. Please tell us ??
Just the cheapest Safeway Select brand flour.
Thanks
Great
Чем бы детя не тешилось, лишь бы не кололось.!
did you call your uncle fester?
good job kid. continue. also, use Google to research problems.
You need to mix wax and saw dust together a put it in that press
Texas Hobbies
Thanks for the comment.
I’ll have to find a cheap way to get a bunch of wax and give it a shot.
Thanks again
@@steppbysteppcreations2072 try yard sales look for old candles sometimes some of them haven't even been used or look around your house or ask a friends and if they have candles they don't use also you can buy Gulf Wax for $3.00 or so at your local stores even hardware stores and Wal-Mart
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Cool experiment! Unfortunately there isn't really a quick way to do this, time is the key factor.
Yah, that’s the biggest lesson learned. But still fun.
Awesome my dude, you should see how much peanut oil or something like that out of a big bag with that hydraulic press.
Pine sawdust probably wont work too well
I'm wondering the cost of the log press.
We bought everything used so we probably have about a thousand or so dollars into it, and a lot of time….
Thank you for your reply. Was it worth it and where can I purchase a machine like that.
That baby is custom made from top to bottom… it was a super fun project but probably not worth all that went into it. We did make some nice logs that turned out great, but we had to leave them in the press for so long that it took way too much time per log to be worth doing for much more than a novelty.
@@steppbysteppcreations2072 would love to see an update. I’m thinking about trying to do this myself.
use hot water and corn starch
Check out some Indian videos. They have it down pat.
This seems like a lot of work considering you could just pack the sawdust into cardboard boxes and burn it.
They gotta be heated Baked...
Thanks for watching and commenting. That’s a good thought.
Diameter is too big therefore there is no pressure enough/square inch
Thank you for your thoughts and comment.
Hope Ur not still looking for a solution, as this vid was posted 2 years ago. What more can be said? Escarpment 4 water, and a longer election tube will generate the frictional heat that is needed, to activate Lignin bonding.
Thanks for the insight. We’ll have to get back at it and build a better mouse trap. Thanks.
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You can do it dry but youre trying to press too much at a time. Try 3" blocks.
wax
"Here you kid, put your hands right down there inside the running hydraulic press...what could possibly go wrong..."
I want to sell wood powder
Nice, let me know if you have any success selling it.
put some flour in it
That’s a great idea!
I don’t even know why I watched this it’s 12:55 am
Probably one of my favorite comments. Thanks for watching.
Not cost effective..
@@jondoe4591 nope