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Man, your subs are the best! At the mere mention of a possible idea, people jump and send you these wonderful things and give you their input. What a great community!
Straight handle. Comfortable, familiar grip for both tool uses. Then wrap a grip with paracord or similar on the bottom third.
Awesome to see you around here, Jay ! But seriously, Wranglerstar using paracord on a handle ? That's not the proper way to do it ! :D
Jay I agree with you, maybe for a more traditional look use wet leather strips to shrink tight
Sérgio Lonrensatto hahaha. Paracord was the only thing that came to mind. A nice leather wrap would be more suitable.
I agree with Jay!
That's one nice looking axe!
Hey Cody, I have a thought. how about a straight handle with a double flare, so that it has balance.
Great looking tool! I vote for a straight, round handle. That is definitely a tomahawk. Go with your gut, Cody.
I like baseball bat handle with knob. I have restored a old pickaroon with small axe handle and love it. You have inspired me and now restoring several old axes. Thanks for your inspiration.
The best handle in my opinion would resemble a small double bit axe handle. Good for use in any direction.
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Well, the zombies said the same thing, but everybody knows what liars those things are.
Thanks to you there's no zombies
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Thank you so much for all your videos. I grow up on a homestead in Oklahoma and bought mine when I was 21 years old. Your videos have been so helpful on taking care of my inherited tools and on learning what many of them are. You have made my life on the homestead much easier. Thank you.
Straight handle all the way in my opinion. What a great gift, and excellent craftsmanship.
Love it. Common sense says design the handle for the primary function of the tool. However...this is a one of a kind, truly custom tool. How cool to curve the handle for a short choke of the hatchet, followed by a straight shaft for the pickaroon. Can't wait to see the end result.
Cody, I agree with you. The straight handle would seem to be the best option. Funny, I also thought of a tomahawk too.
Thanks for all of your time spent on making all of your great videos.
2/3 straight, with a fawns foot. After making 3 of different length, having that curve helps stick the wood easier. Thanks Cody, your video ( pickaroon- mans best friend ) is what got me hooked on your channel last year.
Agreed - straight handle (allows it to be more-or-less ambidextrous for both portions of the tool), larger diameter handle. Love your videos!!
I can't wait to find a cheap one to have! Thanks for the video :)
I think a straight handle, but designed like a double headed axe
The pick end would be the primary use of tool with the occasional trimming or chopping of a twig or splinter. I would make the handle as short as comfortably possible for picking up billets for the splitter without crouching. I would make it similar to a double bit axe handle. I think the handle should be oval in shape with a smaller cross section. Extra weight on a pickaroon is going to be lifted with every billet so lighter is better. I also think it should be secured with wedges or a pin. A pick axe or adze handle will tend to rock and come loose from the head. Having the bladed head slide down on an overhead stroke could require your EMT skills.
When it is being used to chop the oval handle will help with keeping the bit square to the cut. I think a round handle would spin in your hand making you grip harder to control it and adding to fatigue. I'm also in favor of choking up on the handle when cutting splinters and small branches. The blade is too small and light for extended branch lopping. That could better be accomplished with a cruiser or full size axe. The kind of chopping this would be used for most closely resembles that done by a hatchet. A small bump in the handle about 12' down from the head would give you a gripping point for hatchet like use.
So that's my $.02. I'll be interested in what you finally come up with.
Dave N.
aka Old Sneelock
A guy from halfway across the world is a blacksmith, watches and likes your videos, and sent you an amazing tool in a few days just because he's a fellow craftsman.
I love the future.
Oh btw, I'd do a straight handle with a larger diameter knob on the end to keep your hand from sliding off 😉 Ambidextrous and double sided
I was thinking a hybrid kind of handle using the best things you like from both the round and the traditional handles. My idea is an oval handle with a slight taper and swell at the bottom, while still being straight. I can't wait to see how this one is going to turn out!
1. straight , oval handle for feedback of blade and pick orientation
2. palm swell at your location for a light hatchet handle
3. continue the shank at the before swell size for pickeroon comfort length
4. flare end for full extension control.
Definitely a double bit cruiser style handle... That's what I could envision when I saw you pull it out! Love it
I know you've already made it but I most definitely would've made a double bit handle. It's a straight handle and has a nice butt that obviously works either way you have it turned.
I think that the large round handle is the most proper thing to do. I like the idea a swell at the bottom like a double bit too.
I have just picked up a Dutch Army surplus firefighters hatchet for this very reason.... hen I found this video!
I do hope this tool is working out for you sir.
Thanks for all your wonderful videos and time.
All the best from West Yorkshire, UK.
Thom
I think that for this tool since you are normally going to be reaching with it and holding it near to the bottom of the handle that a more curved handle with a flared end would be most comfortable. Just a thought. Thanks for all that you do, I know it is not always easy.
Cody, I think a straight square neck to choke up on then transition to a straight round handle with a small knot on the end. that way you can use it in your left or right hand.
That is out standing! Great job Troy
Straight ovate handle. What a gorgeous piece of steel!
Definitely a straight tomahawk style handle. Absolutely beautiful work by Troy.
I like the idea of the tomahawk handle. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
I have to agree with an oval handle, but with a end like a double bladed axe. Think the tape at the end of a hockey stick.
Oval because it will orientate correctly in your hand when you grip it. If it is round it can orientate in any direction, and you would have to shift it in your hand.
You might want to shoulder it as we'll near the axeroon head as well, just slightly.
Kudos to Troy!
The video on the "Japanese Hand Axe", that handle seems like it suites that head the best. Something along those lines. It is relatively simple along the lines of a Tomahawk but it has a slight curve. This slight curve would allow the best use of the axe head, moving the cutting surface up slightly with the curve and it will take full advantage of the shape and mechanics of the pick. Maybe oval at the eye and fade to rounded like the Japanese Hand Axe. Great videos Cody!
Love the pickeroon and I think a straight handel is nice
Greetings from the Netherlands
You've defiantly got the right idea. My vote goes to the straight handle.
Troy your work is beautiful
Im thinking doublehead axe handle, a straight with an oval shape, especially because when you "axe it" you don't want it to turn in your hand and deflect to the side because you couldn't feel when I was aligned, and then a little swell in the back end. The foam/rubber handle on your picaroon is quite easy to grip I guess but if you want to be able to hold it easy without numb fingers I think you should go for an oval shape, it's a lot easier on your hands, especially if you going to use it as a hatchet at times. Doublehead axe kind of but a bit lighter and straighter because you won't use that kind of force in the blows (I hope)
Fantastic craftmanship by the way! :-)
Gretings from Sweden
Very nice Cody!! That is a fine smithing job on that tool head! I think a straight handle a la cruiser axe, with a nice swell at the butt of the handle would be SKOOKUM. 24-28" long that would be a nice handy tool! Can't wait to see it completed with makers mark and all:-)
TThis is a military tomahawk design that you said in one of your videos; that it was impractical for anything. All you will need to do is adjust the point for a lower price. Love the show.
Frank
I would say a straight handle with an oval profile that swells in the middle for when you choke up on the ax, then tapers back down before a swell at the end, much like the vaughan California framing straight handle. I think the oval is a good idea for indexing the head. Thanks for the great videos Cody!
We use the metric system in Canada as well. We do use the imperial system of inches and feet also due to being taught by the older generations who grew up using it. But other than that imperial measurements are hardly used. Great video! Always love them, just don't forget your neighbours to the North. Straight handle similar to a double bit axe is what I think I would have.
I would pole lathe a straight handle with a taper like a picaxe, so that you can take the head off for camping trips and put it back on when needed, and how about making a nice leather cover - good luck with it, its a lovely piece of work.
Hey Cody,
I was just reading a book called "The Wilderness Cabin" by Calvin Rutstrum. It was first published in 1972 and in it he talks about how an old-timer trick was to grind down one side of a double bit axe in to picaroon shape and then cut the handle down to 3/4 length. It almost looks like a fireman's axe but with more curve on the pick end. I thought that was a neat idea and just wanted to share it with you.
Randy
I keep forgetting that I am watching older content and am making comments like it was today, I will be glad when I finish catching up watching ALL of the older content so I can concentrate on the NEW stuff................
That is a beautiful work of art. I have made a few tomahawks and I think it needs a straight handle shorter than the other handles you have. You can throw it if the handle is about 16 or 17 inches long. They are great fun to throw.
Cody - I would suggest a hybrid handle. since you have the hickory stock, create a handle that is to your correct length for the pickaroon side, but around 18 inches and facing the hatchet side, create a fawn or hand swell so that you can choke up and use the hatchet side just like a short handled hatchet for cutting off any stubs left over on your rounds.
As soon as you put that head next to the straight handle it was a perfect match in my eyes. A straight handle would also be easier to reproduce if the original handle were to be broken, especially if it were to be made in a way that the head slips on from the bottom, as the tomahawk handle is designed to do.
That truly is a beautiful tool. I'm pretty exited to see it mounted with a nice handle. Straight sounds good.
Looking at the head I see the eye is more oval. Knowing the loads on the head I would say use a straight handle that is shaped like a double bit ax handle. They are ovaled so you will have the surface area for a good grip and control, they have a swell at the butt of the handle so you can keep your grip.
I like your butcher block workbench. I was lucky enough to come across three of them 3" x 30" x8' and 10 '. I made part of one into for a counter top with inlaid marble for my wife. The rest are in my workshop. They are old army surplus cutting blocks
My vote is a round straight handle.
jason
I agree
Jason
Me too
Great videos, in my opinion it should be functional and comfortable using either side of the tool, I would suggest a oval shape tomahawk handle with a tear drop palm swell on the end. I have a hedge hog brand, hedge slasher with the original handle and it's a awsome handle to use. Thanks for all the great videos, it's always a pleasure to watch.
Straight handle ..tomahawk style with a thin leather cord wrapping at the bottom to create a swell for your hand to prevent slipping . Its old world hand made and almost gives a viking like feel to the tool .Its a wonderful tool and it makes me wonder if something like this was indeed present in ancient times yet somehow slipped under the radar .
that is truly a show piece. Troy is absolutely a very fine blacksmith.
I would defo go with the tomahawk style handle. Its more versatile and easier to replace if broken in the field. Another beautiful tool you got yourself there
I stand for the tomahawk style handle. It should look somewhat like the orange pickaroon, have the same length, but be slimmer. Good tip: I used white american oak on a restoration project, and sanded up real well and treated with boiled linseed oil, it is the best feel ever. Better then hickory in my opinion.
Slimmed-down double bit style. The seat for the head isn't a circle so I believe the handle would match Troy's design better. Thanks for another great video!
Straight handle for sure! The eye is that of a frontier tomahawk!
Maybe a handle like on a cruiser axe, a small double bit axe. Straight, so it's balanced for both heads, the pickaroon and axe, with a small palm swell for both directions, and oval, so it feels good in the hand.
Old lath hammers, with a hammer and axe head, had a similar type handle it looks like, and some smaller old school firemans axes had them too - straight, with a small palm swell on both sides.
If you have a double heaed hatchet, or are willing to try out your cruiser as a make do pickaroon for a day, it could give you an insight into whether this design would work.
Cool tool. Looks beautiful, and functional.
Straight oval handle with swell on the bottom, elegant like the axaroon but still strong without lots of bulk. Finished with mix of linseed oil and pine tar.
I quite like the idea of a handle with two functionalities. A handle with the bended ergonomic end which makes carrying logs in straight arm less dependent of the grip of the hand. Further up the handle, a new shape which makes the reverse grip when using the axe pleasant. The high placed grip for the axe would make it easier to use as it is only meant for small chops and not powerful swings. I find that design interesting. The straight handle would probably work just fine, but with the right design based on this idea would be superior and more fun! :)
A straight gradual tapered handle of between 2 to 4 ft.in length with a balled end is the traditional for what was marketed as the Lumber Sorters' Pickaroon. the hatchet head pickaroon had the ax like handle. Hope this is helpful.
that is beautiful, great craftsmanship.
The Austro-Hungarian soldiers used Axearoons as a main melee weapon in combat for years. You can still find old european axearoons in fairly good shape every once in awhile.
Yup. Straight tool handle. That head reminds me a lot of a rail road spike tomahawk.
I do blacksmith work as a hobby. That is a nice bit of work Troy did.
Frank (Virginia)
That is a very cool axearoon. Now I need one; thanks a lot! I really like the straight handle idea.
Mr Wranglerstar,
I like the boys axe handle idea for the classic style and simplistic multi-functionality. And I think that it should have a faceted pommel like your son hatchet handle.
very well made pickaroon and a great knife too. i would want a wood tomahawk style.
Assuming that the pickaroon side will be used standing up, you will be gripping the end of the handle so you can do the traditional palm swell. The axe side will be used kneeling or bent over, so you can add a contour to the handle facing the axe side midway up to choke up on the axe that won't interfere with use of the pickaroon and be comfortable.
straight handle with a slight swell where you would hold it in the "choked up" ax position, and a slight swell at the bottom. best of both worlds :)
I would say the Tomahawk style handle but with a knob at the bottom similar to a baseball bat. That way you get equal functionality either way and still something to stop your hand from sliding off.
Like Logan's idea, a straight 'tomahawk' style handle with a slight swell near the end. Could also do a paracord or leather wrap at the end to keep your hand from slipping.
My two cents: I'm thinking a slight oval handle, in the interest of ease of use. You would be able to tell that you had a good striking angle just by the feel of your hand. The same theory is tried and true in edged weapons, helps with alignment. Pair that with a small outward lip at the bottom, and I think you would have a nice handle.
I forgot to say, this handle is straight like the tomahawk idea you had.
Straight Rounded Long Dimpled Tomahawk Grip for a good grab.
Take a drill bit and create a pattern on the grip portion. 3/8ths inch bit about a 1/4 inch deep.
Straight handle like a splitting maul. Rounded on the edges but has flats on the sides to help align the cutting edge in your hand. You could mushroom the end of the handle to keep it from slipping out of your hand.
Your axearoon is a "battle axe," straight out of the late Renaissance. They were mounted on long poles for max centrifugal force, and the pointy end to concentrate that force into piercing your opponent's plate armor.
Straight handle for sure. Can't wait to see it finished.
I vote for a handle in the shape of the Axeroon's eye incorporating a palm swell at the bottom that gives you increased grip while using the pickaroon side. I think it would be better in that shape because you would be able to feel if it was facing the right direction and be able to flip it 180 around without having to look, also the palm swell to help your grip wile lifting and carrying logs since your handle probably won't have a wrapping since none of your wood handles do.
I would also suggest for the next version to have and extended lip/lug like on a Norse bearded axe I think that would compliment the beautiful shape of the cutting head and allow for greater surface area between the metal and the wood also giving a place to add a hole for a cross pin to help secure it to the handle when pulling etc. It's a great piece I cant wait to see what you come up with!
Original ax handle except without the palm swell.Id straighten it out half way down.My opinion that pops to my head as I see the beautiful piece of art/tool.
Hi Cody,
In the Elderberry video, the handle on the boys double sided axe would work nicely.
Nice small Ax head Picaroon. I would go with the straight handle for a multi tool. I wonder if this Axearoon would also work well as a light duty demolition clean up tool, a nail notch would be helpfull. I have a Stihl pickaroon and like the feel of the straight handle. I have found many uses for it clearing trees and brush. I like your idea. Great videos.
Man that is a gorgeous tool. Such nice lines . Minimal surface area for head to handle contact. I would turn a round hollow wedge on metal lathe and use that to exert max wedging force (as in some framing hammers), and then Consider drilling and roll pinning that head. You need a palm swell of some sort. Ice axes for technical ice climbing often have dual function heads...but the handle contours favor the most heavily used side.
Tomahawk style done the tomahawk way, no wedges needed just slip on from the bottom and have the top tapered larger, easy to replace if broken and can swap to different lengths if needed.
Lookin forward to the vid that follows :-)
Although it's a straight handle, the handle of a double head has a swell at the bottom. You should use a double head axe handle.
Double Hoofed! Why not two lengths, with a shorter swell or hoof for trimming hatchet use and a boy's ax length (longer) for pick use. It looks like it's going to best suited for lighter quicker work where you might want a more portable multi-function tool.
Straight handle. When I split firewood I use an ax quite a bit to cut split blocks apart. Some species of oak seem to be very bad about not splitting cleanly and needing to be cut apart. So the ax needs to be easy to work with and as functional as the pickaroon.
MOST DEFINITELY A TRADITIONAL WOOD HANDLE Maybe use some close grain oak, hickory or even black walnut if you want it to be really different and special... In any case wood is my personal favorite and recently I have been looking for a traditional pickaroon and a cant hook (we used to just call them Peaveys) and you can find all kinds of metal handle ones, but not so much the wood ones... WOOD is my choice..... GOD BLESS (can't wait to see what you pick)
straight for sure. You would have to look at the taper but you may be able to use a tomahawk style handle where the handle tapers out and the head is held on by wedging forces. The only real advantage would be the ability to craft a replacement handle in the field. You seem to be pretty close to the shop most of the time so that would not be as desirable. If you do the traditional axe mount however you can put a flare at the other end to help with gripping. The swell is nice for using in a hammer like style too if you need to bump something. Have fun with it either way.
The shape of the hole works for a handle with a big butt end! TY for sharing
My vote is for a Tomahawk style handle.
Made in Australia! Very nice. Ten thumbs up!
Thinking outside the box. A loop or loop hole handle. Consider the many rifle stocks and cross bow stocks how with loop holes the entire hand grip or thumb at triggers can pass thrrough to grip. Now envision a solid handle with a hole in the end the fingers can position grip all around so no matter which you use, the pick or hatchet blade, you can have a good position and grip. You may have more of a straight grip for the pick and more offset grip for the blade.
I would suggest a handle much like that of a small double bit cruiser. That way you get the swell at the bottom, the functionality for both sides and you can tell where the sharp parts are by the grip of it reducing the chance of a glancing blow.
Hey Cody , awesome tool. How about a handle like a double bit cruiser/cedar. Straight with that perfect little swell at the bottom. I think that would be a winner.
I like the Idea of a straight handle like the orange one you have but with the double fawn foot at the end
Hmm ! I would like a little larger and heavier ax ! Not much bigger but a little more weight would probably not have been entirely wrong .
The cutting part is to cut off small missed branches when stacking wood. So I guess small head would work for smaller stobs. Your right it would be nicer if it were heavier. But it will be great for throwing and it looks really great like art work.
My vote is also for a straight handle, with a more oval cross section instead of the round of tomahawk or that metal pickeroon. If you are going to mount it like an axe head (instead of a friction fit tomahawk style) you could still have a symmetrical palm swell.
I do like the suggestions of the leather wrap (or maybe an overbraid), but that's a matter of taste.
I think you were almost to your answer half way though the video. It seems to me the handle should have a curve handle to compliment is two uses. The use of the pickernoon end suggests length is important and hand posture is at the end of handle before diameter flares for additional end feel. In regard to the axe side I agree the hand posture is closer to the head and thus the componentry curve is possible. I also wonder if the thickened end will help balance the tool during axe function. I can't wait for handle attachment question goes out. You will need to do another video so we can see close up the handle mounting surfaces.
Regards and thanks for your thought provoking videos.
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I suggest you make a head with a reverse taper receiver like a pic only scaled down a little. That way you could break a handle in the bush and carve out a New one on site with little loss of time or material. As you know a pic candle is straight with a bell shaped business end and is secured to the head by centrifugal force which eliminates the possibility of the head dislodging while being swung... Really enjoy your channel… Don
I'm going with the hybrid - A fawn's foot at the far end for the pickeroon-use side, and a swell on the axe side somewhere towards the middle (where you want to be choked up while using the axe).
I like the tomahawk aspect with the straight handle. I think that would be the best choice..