was that custodians in a circle around magnus. The emperors chosen, golden armor, coned helmets, with long staffs “spears” heresy to claim they’d do such a thing
@@inquisitormaddox8581 Punched him and destroyed a heart, but it is heavily implied that Russ lets Magnus do so to show him the strength of the wolf pack and that he cannot win.
In 3rd edition times the story went like Russ walked in, kicked Magnus´s butt and broke his spine without an actual fight and Magnus ran whining into the warp. It soundsl ike the story got better in later times.
The more I read about the Primarchs and the Heresy (even though this is modern 40K). The more I'm convinced that only Lorgar and Horus were the only truly evil Primarchs. The rest were either taken advantage of or victims of their own vanity/circumstances. Curze of course being obsessed with Fate, Mortarion having an unresolved issue with the Emperor from when the Big E found him. Perturabo really just throwing a temper tantrum, Angron being driven to a murderous berserker due to the Nails, especially Magnus who never would have ever thought of betrayal if his circumstances weren't setup by Horus. It just makes everything that much more tragic regarding the Heresy.
Even Horus was brought low by betrayal - Lorgar, Erebus, and the visions that would only happen if he betrayed the Emperor. For the truly evil you forgot Fulgrim, though.
@@Zimzilla99 If Kurze was alive I could see him being redeemed. Sanguinius tried to do so and Kurze nearly accepted. If the Emperor himself offered redemption I truly think Kurze would have accepted.
@@WestSideGorilla1980 sadly there was a traitor on both sides screwing with transmissions so russ couldn't get a signal to magnus cause he actually tried to talk to him on the way to prospero.
Out of all the traitor primarchs I feel like magnus could be the one to be redeemed or when the final war comes he could at least help humanity. I do not believe he is completely lost.
"Guilt reminds us of our better natures. It tells us to be better. The man who feels no guilt for his wrongdoings is the monster we should all fear." Magnus the Red from "Morning Star" by Graham McNeill
@@nezqwe4818 "In duty are all things made pure. Even the most egregious of trespasses can be mended in service. " Cenric, Black Templar “Champions, All” by Marc Collins
Im still thinking this is all planned as the only way chaos can be killed by another god and as powerful as the big E was he knew it wasnt enough so planned to become a god of chaos shaped by order and light powered in seceret within his corpse waiting until he is enough to take on all 4 chaos gods and eventually shut the gates of the warp from within finally setting hummanity free
@@Sanguinor_Energy they are the ones on the warhammer community website about the psychic awakening. They are called psychic awakening: a better place and psychic awakening: a promise fulfilled. They are just short little reads.
That's actually a good theory. So far every piece of Magnus' soul was furious about Ahriman's spell. Even Daemon Primarch Magnus wants it fixed. Maybe he found a way.
Pretty sure the current Magnus is just a fragment, or at least a fragment that leans more to chaos. Not too sure what happen to the good fragment of him but either way I’m still surprised that he hasn’t found out that it was Horus who tricked leman into destroying Prospero because he was afraid of his power.
There are 4 known fragments. The anger and hatred that turned into a Daemon Primarch, the piece without a body that resides in the Tower if Sorcery wallowing in self pity that refuses to come out, the piece into his Sgt to keep the Rubric curse from taking hold and a 4th piece that has been guiding/directing the Blood Ravens from the shadows. This piece hasn't been confirmed as such but it has warned them about the approach of Chaos, led them to knowledge or artifacts that could help the chapter survive, it even warned them that Tyrannids would be attacking some of their recruiting worlds. Pretty sure it's another piece of Magnus' soul.
@@chrisbennett6236 wait, blood Ravens? As in down of war blood ravens? And there's a 4th piece guiding them? How the hell didn't I know about this earlier, did I miss some books or something?
@@gamer65688 Probably didn't miss it cause it hasn't been confirmed. But this mysterious helper has been leading them to artifacts that date back to when they will still legions, some before the number dropped to 18. He warned them of the treat of Chaos that ended up turning one of their worlds into an ice ball and helped them avoid Chaos Daemon Prince Magnus' fleet when they were returning from operation in which few Blood Ravens survived. Aside from possibly Guilliman, a Primarch, who in the current timeline would know about legion artifacts lost during the Great Crusade and be able to sense the presence of Daemon Prince Magnus and have an interest in the last loyalist sons of Magnus? Best guess is another fragment of Magnus. It would be the 4th fragment of his soul to surface and I know the Blood Ravens are chimeric space marine chapter but there's no doubt they are sons of Magnus. So yeah "unconfirmed" but really who else could it be? This is popular theory so far at least.
@@gamer65688 One thing we know for sure is that there are multiple pieces of his soul running around. I'm sure will eventually identify this mysterious stranger as a host for a piece of his soul and we'll learn about more pieces out there. Given its Magnus the psychic awakening would be a good opportunity to do both.
It's a Grey Knight perspective. You should expect fanatical adherence to dogma from a GK who get heavily brainwashed every few weeks to stop him from going insane from all the chaos shit he regularly encounters.
@@Valsorayu power shard, hes just missing the chill parts of himself from his noble shard that got imbued in the first grand master of the grey knights by malchador, after which this grad master didnt have any stories about him and seemingly disapeared
In these darkest and most uncertain of times the Grey Knights stand as the unmovable force as spoken in the Emperor’s own words. They are my bulwark against the terror. They are my space marines. And they shall know no fear.
Pretty sure Johnson is waking. The White Scars went into the webway looking for Jaghatai and it seems likely that Lorgar is going to make his big return soon and he has a Raven Shadow stalking him. So I'd say we will see three soon.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 They do alot more since Matt Ward stopped writing the lore. There's a cool short story Wolf Lord Tho has a video for in which they are in a skirmish with the Night Lords. If you know who Matt Ward is then you know that during his time with GW as the lore writer he almost exclusively wrote about the Ultramarines and Grey Knights. On rare occasions he'd write lore for the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, IG or Inquisition. I don't think he ever wrote lore for most of the other Imperial factions and he hated the Orks, Tau, Eldari and Chaos so GW had to out source for years for most of their content. Thankfully Ward is gone and each each faction has their own dedicated writers who do an amazing job of producing quality lore.
@@chrisbennett6236 I'm still very new to 40k. I'm not even past the HH yet tbh. All I know of him is that he made the ultrasmurfs Sue style characters that could do no wrong.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Yep them and the Grey Knights. I'm a loyalist fan myself. Blood Angels, Dark Angels, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Ravenguard, Iron Hands, Salamanders and Ultramarines. I like the Sisters of Battle, Tau and Eldari. Not really a fan of anything else. But as a fan I can tell you that the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras have great writing. As does the Psychic Awakening thus far. I will say when reading newer Great Crusade stuff it can get confusing due to 11 legions having been removed from Imperial records. So in the new lore if it mentions an unknown legion, there are 11 possibilities as to which one(s) are involved. The older lore only lists the 2nd and 11th legions as unknown for Great Crusade era so it's easier to understand. Essentially GW never fully created the 2nd and 11th. We only get snippets every now and then but no real lore. This because they were removed from Imperial records early in the Crusade for unknown reasons. Later the Horus Heresy traitor legions, Luna Wolves, Thousand Sons, Iron Warriors, Emperor's Children, Word Bearers, World Eaters, Night Lords, Death Guard and the Alpha Legion, were also removed from records so the newer lore reflects this. Though we know alot about the HH legions so it should be possible to tell if they were involved if you know enough about the legions. Inquisition, Ecclisiarchy and Mechanicus are Imperial factions that are important to learn about as post HH they basically run the Imperium. Imperial Guard are written about alot as they handle the bulk of the military operations within Imperial space, though they usually get slaughtered until one of the more powerful factions arrive. Usually Adeptus Astartes. In addition to the Codexes I recommend reading the Fantasy Flight paper and pencil RPG guides as they too have in depth lore you can read if you don't want to read all the novels.
Kitten: "Kaldor Draigo please, we need your help to defeat Magnus and-" Draigo: "I've already defeated him." Kitten: "What? How?" Draigo: "A wizard never reveals his secrets."
It might actually be possible. There was a single fragment of Magnus that might open the door for that. Last it was seen, it was held by malcador the sigilitte before his sacrifice. That fragment was basically the incarnation of his good side. If he were to get that back...
Not in my 40k. The only peoples who get happy endings are absolute monsters like Dark Eldar and Erebus. Hell the ammount of shit loyalist chapter get to wade through is directly proportionate to how nice they are - i.e. Salamanders and Lammenters being one of the chilled dudes in the grim dark future, and the former couldn't fully recover from the Drop Side Massacre for 10000 years while the latter are a meme of bad luck in 40k.
Magnus is my favourite remaining Primark hands down, it was between him and curze before that in an ultimate tragic fall to chaos. I really want more 1000 sons lore and stories 🙂 nicely narrated. Thank you
Wolf Lord Rho - like i always say i really recomend you read the story for yourself first me - but but i love your voice and the imagination and emotion you bring to the story on my first time of hearing it
What are you talkin about? Magnus has been hanging out at the imperial palace this entire time: he's been playing dungeons & dragons with The Emperor and Rogal Dorn. What, did the grey knights just turn a corner or something?
Your readings of excerpts are wonderfully done and well picked out and thought out. Your musings of there inner workings and meanings are masterfully done.
Wolf lord rho after magnus back broke his shards spread across the galaxy, ahirman has gotta all the shards but missing one on terra and it's the humanity shard. Interesting lore :)
As guilaman steps upon the scorched sands of prospero, guilaman saw the devistation. He had heard of what leman did but the level of destruction here was unbelievable. Excsessive even...but then guilaman sees magnus. Or rather...a form of magnus. The shard looked at guilaman in a small smile, although hollow. "You shouldnt be here brother. The cyclops is near upon sortiarius" Gman nodded "I came because i need to bring you back,brother" The shard smirked but responded "You cant keep the crimson king from tzeench,arhiman has been trying to no avail to break me and us free" Guilaman nodded "If you wont listen to me,then at least listen to him." Bjorn,who was recently resurected thanks to cawls work looked to the shard of magnus "I remember you...the vylka fynrika next to russ. The fell handed i assume" Bjorn nodded "We were both decieved by the warmaster when prospero burned ya cyclops. It may be a bit late but...i think you should come back. Allfather knows itd help." The shard nodded. "If the emporor is awake this vividly then your right. But if I'm fighting the crimson king i need shards back as well." As magnus spoke,the photep came within prosperos orbit and he cursed in tizca "He knows we're speaking...we need to go...now." Light came down. And in resplendant armor and robes,the crimson king stood before the 3 "You,are not welcome here." The blade of magnus was summoned,and the 3 prepared to fight. But the king didnt strike. "I know what you plan little shard. I may not be able to stop you yes. But you are not welcome here." With a snap,the 3 were teleported back to the maccrages honor,shortly they would escape. But as the crimson king stands upon prospero,a spectral form of kairos looked with both heads at him "Why did you let the anathemas servants live,crimson king?" Kairos was snarky and sarcastic,but the king was calm "I am not able to stand against fathers blade. Guilaman may be less suited for combat but dont forget he beat me and mortarion. And not only that...father protects him. That wolven cur can live. Fenris will burn either way." To be continued...
This story was like the Reeses of 40K. Grey Knights and Magnus? The 2 great tastes that go great together? Absolutely not sorry! Magnus is my fave fallen primarch. I know he made mistakes and kind of chose to be damned for them, rather than obliterated but he went above and beyond trying to save the Empire.
No, the daemon princes getting beat by normal space marines is beyond utter shite 99% of the time. Warp or not. You'd never see a chaos marine nearly best a loyal primarch. Loyal plot armor is so thick it isn't even funny anymore.
@@yeoldchief7711 if he knows Mangus' true name, he could defeat him with an awful lot of luck. Obviously what's most likely is him being completely fucked
Man I found your channel today, watching/listening for hours now. The way you tell the stories, brings them to life. Really well done, fitting artwork and always a fitting background music to set up the mood. I really appreciate your channel. I thougt I knew everything about 40k lore, yet I found some topics I didn't hear of yet, or at least not in such detail. So thank you.
Man I really liked this story. And the Dark Angels one with Lazarus and Azrael making a speech. That speech is DEFINITELY worth a read, there's a lot to glean from it
lol imagine the Emperor returning and meeting Daemon Magnus and instead of using his psychic might to scour Magnus from existence, he gives him a parental psychic spanking and violently removes all Chaos taint from him, returning him to his former self. Big E - ''If you won't end this little phase of yours, then i will!'' Magnus - ''It's not a phase dad!!!''
The short stories for Ritual of the Damned are well worth reading since it shows why your regular imperial citizen would turn to Chaos and gives the current Thousand Sons enough misguided sympathy to make them very compelling antagonists
Tacoguy1000 The new Mephiston book has Magnus wanting to finish the Emperor’s work by restoring Prospero and bringing as many Psykers as possible there to train them. Some are sacrificed and Tzeench is doing something that might be touched on in the new PA book
@@TehSquare Ok...this is...new, from chaos. Considering the oerwhelming majority of its slaves are assholes, I'm genuinely surprised to hear that a Daemon Primach, of all things, is genuniely training them as opposed as squeezing them as soul juice for some ephemeral gain.
"F*cking Magnus" -- Leman Russ, c30,000. Legend has is that the Grey Knights have these ancient words recorded in their most hidden archives. Legend has it the Grey Knights still ponder what "F*cking" is to this day.
Yeah, I think they'd reconcile under the banner of both being marines, and both being sons of the Emperor, putting aside their differences thrust upon them by shitty Inquisitors.
The Grey Knights have always been my favorite. Those Silver Angels bringing His wrath to the most hated nemesis of mankind, their purity unshaken by even the fallen Sons. What is more hype than that?
i believe Lushian is just a prognosticar, they are part of the Grey Knight order, but usually take a non-combative role and they mostly scry the warp in search of future daemon incursions so that the Grey Knights can engage these incursions ahead of time. so many of them are still just regular humans with some minor augments. I do agree with you, they are a chapter that is so different from the other chapters. it's why I still play them on the table top. I really don't see them needing primaris marines and if they do get some, it would most likely just be librarians. Their training ritual is so intense that usually 1 out of 1000 recruits survive the first rite of passage
Great video! I love me some thousand sons and grey knights so this is a dream come true! You’re like one of the 3 channels I have post notifications turned on for, keep up the great work!
Your my favorite 40kwarhammer loremaster. You provide feedback on the subject and how you interpret it, and possess a fans love for the subject. Unlike some australian mma dude who picks on people.
Grey Knight Lucien who peers his eyes into the warp lookin for Chaos activities. Just like how Magnus used to peer his single eye into the warp looking for you know what
Kedge Whiteeye of course they were everything and more that mankind could aspire to be. A being with near limitless potential, but with all the imperfections like pride, ego, and humility of a base level human amplified to ridiculous levels. Lol what could go wrong 😉🤷🏾♂️
Russ only won because Magnus realized he was killing his brother and stopped fighting. Or did you forget the part where he had beaten Russ down and ripped out one of his hearts? Then realizing the horror of what he was doing stopped fighting back? Well Daemon Primarch Magnus won't give a shit about the horror of what he's doing and beat the Space Puppy into a pile of goo. Besides GW already very cleverly announced the next 3 Loyalist Primarchs who will be returning, and even though the Astartes that had the vision was a Space Wolf, Russ wasn't on the list. The list: Lion El'Johnson Jaghatai Khan Corvus Corvax
Grey knight lore...yeah it's very interesting, I already went into that rabbit hole. I fully agree with them needing more attention once again. It's quite interesting lore they've got. Every single one of their appearances are interesting, the times they encounter primarchs (like on Armageddon), those are extra special, though to me, an Eldar Fanboy, there's this one piece of lore that was extra special: grey knights fight these deamons on this abandonned craftworld, the deamons killed everybody, the GKs wait some time for other eldar to come claim this craftworld once they've cleaned it up from all corruption, but nobody comes (still a nice intention and interesting to know that they don't see the eldar as the enemy, unlike other Imperial forces)
Every time I hear the dialogue of Magnus, I only hear the Emperor TTS voice actor for him. I genuinely believe he's a good match for Magnus's character, even though yes his voice isn't 'big deep evil chaos daemon' voice type.
I would love for mags to discover. T. Tricked him. Both in baiting Horus to order Prospero’s burning and in the Ruberic Spell. Mags would so go rouge... no wraith greater than wholesome pride torn asunder...
@ Marko Oljenik Im saying wouldn’t it be crazy and ironic it Mags did find out. Say. Per. The grey knights or. One of his primarch brothers. Or emperor himself... the master of secrets, “mr. t” ....gets fucked over by big e. Or one of the other chaos powers....
The possibility of a non primarch defeating the demon primarchs bothers me too. They are even more powerful with the ruinous powers within them, so that just seems kind of contridictory. Now when it comes to the Grey knights, I understand. Demon slaying is what they are for.
First off I would probably be like what happened to Mortarion were it took I think the whole chapter to stop him and draigo only was able to carve a name in his heart because of a deamon name from what I remember And curze got killed by a normal human
I hope to the Emperor that you do some more Grey Knights readings. When Malcador hid Titan, could the Traitors have found it if they were looking for it?
The whole point of the 40k is that a mere mortal can best a daemon primarch if the circumstances are right! The whole point of the 40k is that daemon primarchs have fallen... and have fallen far from what they were (demigods, and while they may have more power their flaws are magnified and are prone to more mistakes than before)... that mortals rule their own... that the primarchs had really human flaws... that the imperium is ruled by humans (although guided by the Emperor)! I mean it is best described in the audio drama "Parting of the ways" by Chris Wraight, when the young wolf priest talks to Bjorn the Fell-handed that "he has taken the trials and in that way you are better than he was" meaning their vanished Primarch Leman Russ. Although Guilliman has returned and it is inevitable that sometime in the future other primarchs will return, it is still possible for a mere space marine to best a daemon primarch. Remember that Kaldor Draigo bested the Daemon Primarch Mortarion and carved the name of the former Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights in Mortarion's Heart. Also in the "The Emperor's Gift" the Grey Knight Hyperion bested the Daemon Primarch Angron. Also in a way the then space wolf (bloodclaw) Ragnar Blackmane bested the Daemon Primarch Magnus the Red in the 3rd novel of the instalation by hurling the Spear of Russ to Magnus' eye. The whole point of the 40k universe is that anything can happen under the right circumstances... that's why even since Guilliman has returned he still hasn't changed much in the imperial organization as we know it (besides primaris marines and the strategic way they are deployed) and his hands are tied.
I think the book is more about the dark angels and thousand sons And the grey knights were just thrown in there if they were the main focus they would have gotten a model
The Grey Knights are hands down the most hard core of the transhuman war makers. I believe that they are just as tough if not MORE SO than the Custodes. The Custodes guard and stand. The Grey Knights never stop killing and fighting and Facing the most......well, you said it Wolf Lord sir. Plus they are also made from the stuff of the Emperor and have a part of his Psycher skill.
@Devon Crusader right. I agree that they are that. I also read somewhere that the same genetic markers that make up the custodians make up the grey knights. And they were also chosen by Malky and "blessed by the emperor and chosen to deal death to the most dangerous of all enemies of mankind on a daily basis forever. I feel that from everything that I've read that the Knights could match the cudtodes in almost every way and have a psychic edge on them as well. They stand above almost every chapter as far as battle goes and then again have a roster of opponents that are held by no other group except the Golds. If they arent equal on every standard then they are almost equal on every one and a little better at others. But I hear ya. . . *EDIT* I didnt mean to write Custodes....that came out if the previous conversation we had. Lol I'm a Space Wolves and Orks
@Devon Crusader btw, I'm not a Grey Knight player. Im a Custodes and Ork player. Nothing like using snotlings as ammo. *EDIT* Meant to say Space Wolves
They are the only traitor primarchs who don’t still have a chance at redemption. Perturabo doesn’t want to be loyalist, fulgrim might be possessed, Angron is Angron, lorgar started this whole mess and the other two are long dead. Meanwhile magnus resents tzeentch for all the shit he’s pulled and mortarion is such a bitter bastard that he can’t help but rebel against nurgle (his scythe is literally described as impossibly clean)
Grey knights have always been my army. Their lore, aesthetics, history, secrecy; everything about them is intriguing. I wish they were better in the game, but no matter how many losses I face, I cannot lose my love for them
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"We are the Emperor's chosen!"
"So was I, once .. "
BURN
B U R N OF P R O S P E R O
And then Magnus fucked it up
Magnus did nothing wrong
I want him back... 😭
@@asemiintelligentork8388 he destroyed the web way project then refused to talk with leman forcing his hand
"They all waved their hands in an identical fashion." _JAZZHANDS_
At least no one was triggered.
was that custodians in a circle around magnus. The emperors chosen, golden armor, coned helmets, with long staffs “spears” heresy to claim they’d do such a thing
Magnus' spine broke before the Guard did.
CADIA STANDS!
@@heratios hard to stand when they. Broke
Yeah but unlike cadia it wasn't permanent
"I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS! F--- YOU, LEMAN, YOU FURRY B-TARD!"
@@esukgfjyijlgul5335 yeah, but unlike Cadia it keeps happening.
"Let them be a legacy to the galaxy I conquered, and my final gift the species I failed" - The Emperor
or it turns out wasnt his final gift
Aristaios the god emperor is a G
And all inheritors and benefactors of The Imperial LIE!
Empy just keeps on giving
“I ripped out one of his hearts why does no one remembers this”
Inquisitor Maddox ghosts don’t have hearts
COBRA DARKNISS brother Magnus ripped out one of Leman Russ’s hearts out before or after Magnus spine was obliterated
I thought he said he punched out one of Russ' hearts.
@@inquisitormaddox8581 Punched him and destroyed a heart, but it is heavily implied that Russ lets Magnus do so to show him the strength of the wolf pack and that he cannot win.
In 3rd edition times the story went like Russ walked in, kicked Magnus´s butt and broke his spine without an actual fight and Magnus ran whining into the warp. It soundsl ike the story got better in later times.
Of all the characters it is Magnus I fail to separate from Emperor's Text To Speech.
For me its vulcan.
"boop the snoot"
Jus a lil noggin
@@theforge4591 Don't boop the snoot
@@Ahriman13 nah boo the snoot
@@Ahriman13 nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
(eagle noises)
Magnus is literally sending pics of himself flexing and asking if he's jealous.
" whether you like it or not, this is what peak psychic performance looks like"
-Chadnus The Swole
@@fuckitweballin759 Swagnus the Rad
"Yes, I do lift books all day, how did you know?"
10:38 *THICC* pOweRfUl LeGs
Surrender your mind to chaos?
Only kidding....unless ??
IMO Magnus was just a very tragic figure... I always had sympathy for him. And this coming from a loyalist...
Yeah, I really do hope Magnus can be forgiven or at least achieve redemption in the future.
He can gain redemption with a Force weapon deep in his little heart.
A. Sean Williams Magnus did nothing wrong.
@@jackstrayfeald1007 if he's reunited with the last soul shard that holds his goodness, then who knows...
@Iron Hands Terminator I agree completely!!!
The more I read about the Primarchs and the Heresy (even though this is modern 40K). The more I'm convinced that only Lorgar and Horus were the only truly evil Primarchs. The rest were either taken advantage of or victims of their own vanity/circumstances. Curze of course being obsessed with Fate, Mortarion having an unresolved issue with the Emperor from when the Big E found him. Perturabo really just throwing a temper tantrum, Angron being driven to a murderous berserker due to the Nails, especially Magnus who never would have ever thought of betrayal if his circumstances weren't setup by Horus.
It just makes everything that much more tragic regarding the Heresy.
Yeah I've often thought about this but it's a close tie with kurze and feather-boi
Samuel Castro magnus is the only primarch I see being redeemed. The rest kind of weren’t the best people or had petty reasons for betrayal.
@@Zimzilla99 Kurze was just fucked up. I forgive him.
Even Horus was brought low by betrayal - Lorgar, Erebus, and the visions that would only happen if he betrayed the Emperor. For the truly evil you forgot Fulgrim, though.
@@Zimzilla99 If Kurze was alive I could see him being redeemed. Sanguinius tried to do so and Kurze nearly accepted. If the Emperor himself offered redemption I truly think Kurze would have accepted.
Magnus : 'they broke my spine.'
Everbody: 'YOU DO NOT HAVE A BLOODY SPINE!'
Yeah
Because they kinda broke it
Pfffft! He's a primarch.....they've got like, 12 goddamn spines...
Fcn traitors everywhere. You all need spine therapy
@@WestSideGorilla1980 sadly there was a traitor on both sides screwing with transmissions so russ couldn't get a signal to magnus cause he actually tried to talk to him on the way to prospero.
@@WestSideGorilla1980 Russ did try to call. Magnus never bothered to pick up.
Like it or not, Alfabusa's TTS series is canon in it's own right.
You know what's not canon? Kitten and Shadowsun.
Commander Farsight I mean no it’s not but it is a funny take on 40k and does make you think sometimes
*Imagine actually taking 40k seriously*
-Made by Ork gang
Agreed, brother. Ignore the humourless dimwits that you've triggered. TTS is the best thing to happen to 40k in years.
Assholes on the internet: iMaGiNe LiKiNg ThInGs
I hope Draigo shows up and Magnus just says "nope" and sends him back to the warp.
“Mortarion was being nice when he let you write on his heart, your lucky he didn’t take your skull as a decoration on his scythe”
@@wyattbequette3596 Skulls don't exist in my dimension!
"I'VE ALREADY DEFEATED HIM!"
“No Son.” - K. Draigo
Btteer yet, send him to Mortrarion for the second turn
Out of all the traitor primarchs I feel like magnus could be the one to be redeemed or when the final war comes he could at least help humanity. I do not believe he is completely lost.
"Guilt reminds us of our better natures. It tells us to be better. The man who feels no guilt for his wrongdoings is the monster we should all fear."
Magnus the Red
from "Morning Star" by Graham McNeill
Mortarion can be redeem too i think
@@nezqwe4818 "In duty are all things made pure. Even the most egregious of trespasses can be mended in service.
"
Cenric, Black Templar
“Champions, All” by Marc Collins
Im still thinking this is all planned as the only way chaos can be killed by another god and as powerful as the big E was he knew it wasnt enough so planned to become a god of chaos shaped by order and light powered in seceret within his corpse waiting until he is enough to take on all 4 chaos gods and eventually shut the gates of the warp from within finally setting hummanity free
Maybe would essentially mean bringing back an old bit of lore they previously dropped.
I like the stories about the people trying to join Magnus's cult.
Levi Turek can u give me some titles? i havent heard of any stories about that.
@@Sanguinor_Energy they are the ones on the warhammer community website about the psychic awakening. They are called psychic awakening: a better place and psychic awakening: a promise fulfilled. They are just short little reads.
Everbody in 40k: Magnus is evil and it's doing evil tings
Me: i belive this ritual is to fix ariman rubric...i mean i hope it's for that...
That's actually a good theory. So far every piece of Magnus' soul was furious about Ahriman's spell. Even Daemon Primarch Magnus wants it fixed. Maybe he found a way.
Pretty sure the current Magnus is just a fragment, or at least a fragment that leans more to chaos. Not too sure what happen to the good fragment of him but either way I’m still surprised that he hasn’t found out that it was Horus who tricked leman into destroying Prospero because he was afraid of his power.
There are 4 known fragments. The anger and hatred that turned into a Daemon Primarch, the piece without a body that resides in the Tower if Sorcery wallowing in self pity that refuses to come out, the piece into his Sgt to keep the Rubric curse from taking hold and a 4th piece that has been guiding/directing the Blood Ravens from the shadows. This piece hasn't been confirmed as such but it has warned them about the approach of Chaos, led them to knowledge or artifacts that could help the chapter survive, it even warned them that Tyrannids would be attacking some of their recruiting worlds. Pretty sure it's another piece of Magnus' soul.
@@chrisbennett6236 wait, blood Ravens? As in down of war blood ravens? And there's a 4th piece guiding them? How the hell didn't I know about this earlier, did I miss some books or something?
@@gamer65688 Probably didn't miss it cause it hasn't been confirmed. But this mysterious helper has been leading them to artifacts that date back to when they will still legions, some before the number dropped to 18. He warned them of the treat of Chaos that ended up turning one of their worlds into an ice ball and helped them avoid Chaos Daemon Prince Magnus' fleet when they were returning from operation in which few Blood Ravens survived. Aside from possibly Guilliman, a Primarch, who in the current timeline would know about legion artifacts lost during the Great Crusade and be able to sense the presence of Daemon Prince Magnus and have an interest in the last loyalist sons of Magnus? Best guess is another fragment of Magnus. It would be the 4th fragment of his soul to surface and I know the Blood Ravens are chimeric space marine chapter but there's no doubt they are sons of Magnus.
So yeah "unconfirmed" but really who else could it be? This is popular theory so far at least.
@@gamer65688 One thing we know for sure is that there are multiple pieces of his soul running around. I'm sure will eventually identify this mysterious stranger as a host for a piece of his soul and we'll learn about more pieces out there. Given its Magnus the psychic awakening would be a good opportunity to do both.
The good fragment is bound to Janus, one of the original grandmasters of GKs. Who may or may not still be alive, as his tomb on Titan is empty.
Correction. Magnus is the 3rd greatest Psyker in the galaxy.
1st is the Emperor
2nd is Sly Marbo
3rd is Magnus.
4. I Cato sicarius
oh sh@#. Why you gotta drop fact like that. I really want to say no but... yea... you win.
@@jeffmusyoka1876 DAMMIT! YOUR THE ABSOLUTE F@#$ING WORST SICARIUS!!!
No sly malboro is not a psyker justa catachan foot solider with exeptionalknolofe of the death world arborean crow.
@@MrRobot-0 orks fear him as a god, so he is a god... of screaming knifing
Evil made manifest. Lol thank you gw. You turned magnus the red into a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
probably the evil aspect shard.
It's a Grey Knight perspective. You should expect fanatical adherence to dogma from a GK who get heavily brainwashed every few weeks to stop him from going insane from all the chaos shit he regularly encounters.
@@Valsorayu power shard, hes just missing the chill parts of himself from his noble shard that got imbued in the first grand master of the grey knights by malchador, after which this grad master didnt have any stories about him and seemingly disapeared
@@tomasmisek5598 Must be the Blood Ravens
@@Valsorayu either thewm, trayzyn, or kaldor draigo secretly has it imbued in him (would kinda explain his plot deviice level power
In these darkest and most uncertain of times the Grey Knights stand as the unmovable force as spoken in the Emperor’s own words.
They are my bulwark against the terror.
They are my space marines.
And they shall know no fear.
Ask them to cast a d3 smite
Tyler Crissman right but I have an army of them but wish we would get the d3 smite unless it’s a demon then it takes a flat 3
@@aldrikvoldus9599 and I'll take flat 3 smite vs humans.
Tyler Crissman in my mind that would exclude all of chaos because they’ve been transmuted into demon with resistances that humans don’t have
@@aldrikvoldus9599 fine with me, I play Thousand Sons
Magnus " My back is broken " Tyson
Thinal
Eric Davis
He has no back anymore..,
Thanks LEMAN
A WIZARD NEVER REVEALS HIS SECRETS
Nor is he late!
I MUST GO. MY PLANET NEEDS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT, WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS
@@inkedseahear Lord Adorable: I suspect he was high on narcotics.
You do not count
Im fairly new to 40k and boy does it not disappoint except when you have to wait for more primarch lore
It's long over due for Loyal Primarchs to return!! C'mon Gamesworkshop get moving!
Pretty sure Johnson is waking. The White Scars went into the webway looking for Jaghatai and it seems likely that Lorgar is going to make his big return soon and he has a Raven Shadow stalking him. So I'd say we will see three soon.
@@chrisbennett6236 The white scars actually did something?
@@wholesome_masochist4113 They do alot more since Matt Ward stopped writing the lore. There's a cool short story Wolf Lord Tho has a video for in which they are in a skirmish with the Night Lords.
If you know who Matt Ward is then you know that during his time with GW as the lore writer he almost exclusively wrote about the Ultramarines and Grey Knights. On rare occasions he'd write lore for the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, IG or Inquisition. I don't think he ever wrote lore for most of the other Imperial factions and he hated the Orks, Tau, Eldari and Chaos so GW had to out source for years for most of their content. Thankfully Ward is gone and each each faction has their own dedicated writers who do an amazing job of producing quality lore.
@@chrisbennett6236 I'm still very new to 40k. I'm not even past the HH yet tbh. All I know of him is that he made the ultrasmurfs Sue style characters that could do no wrong.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Yep them and the Grey Knights.
I'm a loyalist fan myself. Blood Angels, Dark Angels, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Ravenguard, Iron Hands, Salamanders and Ultramarines. I like the Sisters of Battle, Tau and Eldari. Not really a fan of anything else.
But as a fan I can tell you that the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras have great writing. As does the Psychic Awakening thus far.
I will say when reading newer Great Crusade stuff it can get confusing due to 11 legions having been removed from Imperial records. So in the new lore if it mentions an unknown legion, there are 11 possibilities as to which one(s) are involved. The older lore only lists the 2nd and 11th legions as unknown for Great Crusade era so it's easier to understand.
Essentially GW never fully created the 2nd and 11th. We only get snippets every now and then but no real lore. This because they were removed from Imperial records early in the Crusade for unknown reasons. Later the Horus Heresy traitor legions, Luna Wolves, Thousand Sons, Iron Warriors, Emperor's Children, Word Bearers, World Eaters, Night Lords, Death Guard and the Alpha Legion, were also removed from records so the newer lore reflects this. Though we know alot about the HH legions so it should be possible to tell if they were involved if you know enough about the legions.
Inquisition, Ecclisiarchy and Mechanicus are Imperial factions that are important to learn about as post HH they basically run the Imperium. Imperial Guard are written about alot as they handle the bulk of the military operations within Imperial space, though they usually get slaughtered until one of the more powerful factions arrive. Usually Adeptus Astartes.
In addition to the Codexes I recommend reading the Fantasy Flight paper and pencil RPG guides as they too have in depth lore you can read if you don't want to read all the novels.
Finally got woken up at 1am for a Wolfbro video upload.
Kitten: "Kaldor Draigo please, we need your help to defeat Magnus and-"
Draigo: "I've already defeated him."
Kitten: "What? How?"
Draigo: "A wizard never reveals his secrets."
I love Magnus so much. I honestly wish he could be redeemed
Heretic
Report to the nearest Inquisition chapel, we'd like to have a word with you.
Damnnn i just wanted magnus to be redeemed =(
It might actually be possible. There was a single fragment of Magnus that might open the door for that. Last it was seen, it was held by malcador the sigilitte before his sacrifice. That fragment was basically the incarnation of his good side. If he were to get that back...
Not in my 40k.
The only peoples who get happy endings are absolute monsters like Dark Eldar and Erebus.
Hell the ammount of shit loyalist chapter get to wade through is directly proportionate to how nice they are - i.e. Salamanders and Lammenters being one of the chilled dudes in the grim dark future, and the former couldn't fully recover from the Drop Side Massacre for 10000 years while the latter are a meme of bad luck in 40k.
Magnus is my favourite remaining Primark hands down, it was between him and curze before that in an ultimate tragic fall to chaos. I really want more 1000 sons lore and stories 🙂 nicely narrated. Thank you
Wolf Lord Rho - like i always say i really recomend you read the story for yourself first
me - but but i love your voice and the imagination and emotion you bring to the story on my first time of hearing it
Thank you 😊
Yeah, exactly. Why can't GW hire Wolf Lord Rho to do some audio books. I'd buy those in a second.
Love it! Although as a wolf boi I must always give the Grey Knights a sideways look
Meh, as a GK fan, the Wolves are fine in my book. The Inquisitor who ordered that shit is to blame.
@@henryhaile1653 that's very true!
As a loyal Grey Knight player, this is just another amazing story of how deep they go and how awesome they are.
Inb4 magnus is figuring out how to free himself from tzeentch
BM I wouldn’t put it past the writers to have a story like that at some point, but honestly I want clonegrim way way more
Admiral Kipper both. We need both
Would love to hear your take on Castellan Crowe. Imo one of the best Grey Knights to have stories written about him.
Edit: Video is awesome too.
I’ll definitely cover more grey knights lore!
What are you talkin about? Magnus has been hanging out at the imperial palace this entire time: he's been playing dungeons & dragons with The Emperor and Rogal Dorn. What, did the grey knights just turn a corner or something?
Your readings of excerpts are wonderfully done and well picked out and thought out. Your musings of there inner workings and meanings are masterfully done.
An excellent story time of my favorite fallen Primarch
And on my birthday too!
Thanks Wolf!
Another heretic, we really need a exterminatus here
Wolf lord rho after magnus back broke his shards spread across the galaxy, ahirman has gotta all the shards but missing one on terra and it's the humanity shard. Interesting lore :)
Texcaliber
One shard was bound to Revuel Arvida, better known as Janus.
Actually no. There was another shard that represents one of Magnus positive sides and it too was lost.
@@cadis4257 the Grey knights first Grand master had it
Now I see Ahirman with Ash's hat and a pokeball bandolier of Magnus Shards.
As guilaman steps upon the scorched sands of prospero, guilaman saw the devistation. He had heard of what leman did but the level of destruction here was unbelievable. Excsessive even...but then guilaman sees magnus. Or rather...a form of magnus. The shard looked at guilaman in a small smile, although hollow.
"You shouldnt be here brother. The cyclops is near upon sortiarius"
Gman nodded
"I came because i need to bring you back,brother"
The shard smirked but responded
"You cant keep the crimson king from tzeench,arhiman has been trying to no avail to break me and us free"
Guilaman nodded
"If you wont listen to me,then at least listen to him."
Bjorn,who was recently resurected thanks to cawls work looked to the shard of magnus
"I remember you...the vylka fynrika next to russ. The fell handed i assume"
Bjorn nodded
"We were both decieved by the warmaster when prospero burned ya cyclops. It may be a bit late but...i think you should come back. Allfather knows itd help."
The shard nodded.
"If the emporor is awake this vividly then your right. But if I'm fighting the crimson king i need shards back as well."
As magnus spoke,the photep came within prosperos orbit and he cursed in tizca
"He knows we're speaking...we need to go...now."
Light came down. And in resplendant armor and robes,the crimson king stood before the 3
"You,are not welcome here."
The blade of magnus was summoned,and the 3 prepared to fight. But the king didnt strike.
"I know what you plan little shard. I may not be able to stop you yes. But you are not welcome here."
With a snap,the 3 were teleported back to the maccrages honor,shortly they would escape. But as the crimson king stands upon prospero,a spectral form of kairos looked with both heads at him
"Why did you let the anathemas servants live,crimson king?"
Kairos was snarky and sarcastic,but the king was calm
"I am not able to stand against fathers blade. Guilaman may be less suited for combat but dont forget he beat me and mortarion. And not only that...father protects him. That wolven cur can live. Fenris will burn either way."
To be continued...
This story was like the Reeses of 40K. Grey Knights and Magnus? The 2 great tastes that go great together? Absolutely not sorry!
Magnus is my fave fallen primarch. I know he made mistakes and kind of chose to be damned for them, rather than obliterated but he went above and beyond trying to save the Empire.
Tell that to fanboys who yell didndonuffinwrong
Nothing better than having my morning coffee and watching a new video from Wolf Lord Rho.
No, the daemon princes getting beat by normal space marines is beyond utter shite 99% of the time. Warp or not. You'd never see a chaos marine nearly best a loyal primarch. Loyal plot armor is so thick it isn't even funny anymore.
I was just about to write this comment. Thank you for doing this for me though!
If you read the story, the Grey Knight sees both Draigo victorious and Draigo dead.
Also Kor Phaeron messed up Guilliman in Know no Fear.
@@boxy2k8 using the warp, not quite the same thing. Really need a Pariah to take on Magnus.
@@yeoldchief7711 if he knows Mangus' true name, he could defeat him with an awful lot of luck. Obviously what's most likely is him being completely fucked
Hes probably returning to Prospero to write "MAGNUS WAS SET UP!" on the side of a huge pyramid and sending a "Warp Selfie" to his deadbeat dad.
Man I found your channel today, watching/listening for hours now. The way you tell the stories, brings them to life. Really well done, fitting artwork and always a fitting background music to set up the mood. I really appreciate your channel. I thougt I knew everything about 40k lore, yet I found some topics I didn't hear of yet, or at least not in such detail. So thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, and welcome to the channel!
I'm ready to see GreyKnight Primaris
I just can't stop hearing Magnus from TTS saying all those lines. You did a great job Rho, but I just can't
"I don't know whats in that box...but it feels shifty..." Yup....Magnus is back.
The man with the coolest voice in the 40k community! WolfLordRho
😂 thanks!
baldemort is heeeeeeavy competition tho
Man I really liked this story. And the Dark Angels one with Lazarus and Azrael making a speech. That speech is DEFINITELY worth a read, there's a lot to glean from it
lol imagine the Emperor returning and meeting Daemon Magnus and instead of using his psychic might to scour Magnus from existence, he gives him a parental psychic spanking and violently removes all Chaos taint from him, returning him to his former self.
Big E - ''If you won't end this little phase of yours, then i will!''
Magnus - ''It's not a phase dad!!!''
Always a pleasure to listen to your videos, and i often learn a new thing or two :)
The short stories for Ritual of the Damned are well worth reading since it shows why your regular imperial citizen would turn to Chaos and gives the current Thousand Sons enough misguided sympathy to make them very compelling antagonists
Antagonists depending on who you ask. From my point of view, the Imperium are antagonists.
The Inqusition have been informed of your heresy.
Wait, wait, wait...they don't just mind break them to make them thralls? Strange.
Tacoguy1000 The new Mephiston book has Magnus wanting to finish the Emperor’s work by restoring Prospero and bringing as many Psykers as possible there to train them. Some are sacrificed and Tzeench is doing something that might be touched on in the new PA book
@@TehSquare Ok...this is...new, from chaos. Considering the oerwhelming majority of its slaves are assholes, I'm genuinely surprised to hear that a Daemon Primach, of all things, is genuniely training them as opposed as squeezing them as soul juice for some ephemeral gain.
"F*cking Magnus" -- Leman Russ, c30,000. Legend has is that the Grey Knights have these ancient words recorded in their most hidden archives. Legend has it the Grey Knights still ponder what "F*cking" is to this day.
Loved to see the knights and wolfs join together to defeat the thousand sons. After all enemy of my enemy and what not.
Yeah, I think they'd reconcile under the banner of both being marines, and both being sons of the Emperor, putting aside their differences thrust upon them by shitty Inquisitors.
Thank you for upload and info about story.
I really enjoy in every aspect.
Ty
I'm a bit late on this, but I'd absolutely love more Grey Knight vids!!! I love these stories!!
The Grey Knights have always been my favorite. Those Silver Angels bringing His wrath to the most hated nemesis of mankind, their purity unshaken by even the fallen Sons.
What is more hype than that?
You never heard of the Lamenters, don't ya?
Singing grey Knights?
magnus and his thousand sons never betrayed the imperium. the imperium betrayed them.
no
@@akramaden9069 yes
i believe Lushian is just a prognosticar, they are part of the Grey Knight order, but usually take a non-combative role and they mostly scry the warp in search of future daemon incursions so that the Grey Knights can engage these incursions ahead of time. so many of them are still just regular humans with some minor augments. I do agree with you, they are a chapter that is so different from the other chapters. it's why I still play them on the table top. I really don't see them needing primaris marines and if they do get some, it would most likely just be librarians. Their training ritual is so intense that usually 1 out of 1000 recruits survive the first rite of passage
The Grey Knights are so intriguing! I would love to hear more about them!
listening to this while i build my first set of 40k minis thanks for the great content
Great video! I love me some thousand sons and grey knights so this is a dream come true! You’re like one of the 3 channels I have post notifications turned on for, keep up the great work!
Thank you 😊
Always excited for your uploads.
Thanks!
This is the stuff I been waiting for
Once again you bring some great content thank you o7
Story must be as old as the warp. Magnus just got back from his trip with the captain general.
Always jump on these videos dude. Keep up the awesome work!!
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Your my favorite 40kwarhammer loremaster. You provide feedback on the subject and how you interpret it, and possess a fans love for the subject. Unlike some australian mma dude who picks on people.
happy new year rho! cheers 🍻
Happy new year!
I hope you make longer videos in the future wolf lord rho, I love listening to your videos at work (not watch sadly).
i love this channel you should have way more subs man
Rho please start doing audio books or podcasts, you have an awesome way of reading and a very soothing voice
Thank you 😊
Grey Knight Lucien who peers his eyes into the warp lookin for Chaos activities.
Just like how Magnus used to peer his single eye into the warp looking for you know what
I believe the return of Magnus has already been explained by the TTS series.
Nice vid Rho, Thank you.
Im a single man, i see an upload from Rho, i must watch it.
Magnus will troll the Grey Knights. Angron will just outright kill them in a single stroke
Magnus did nothing wrong
He did one thing wrong. When fighting Russ...
HE SHOULD HAVE GONE FOR THE HEAD
Yes thanks
The theme that runs through all the primarchs, the thing they all share...ego.
Kedge Whiteeye of course they were everything and more that mankind could aspire to be. A being with near limitless potential, but with all the imperfections like pride, ego, and humility of a base level human amplified to ridiculous levels. Lol what could go wrong 😉🤷🏾♂️
I am with you, about the return of a loyalist....BRING ME BACK!!!!!
Russ: I guess it's the Wolf Time then. I broke this red nerdy fool and I'll do it again
Russ only won because Magnus realized he was killing his brother and stopped fighting. Or did you forget the part where he had beaten Russ down and ripped out one of his hearts? Then realizing the horror of what he was doing stopped fighting back? Well Daemon Primarch Magnus won't give a shit about the horror of what he's doing and beat the Space Puppy into a pile of goo.
Besides GW already very cleverly announced the next 3 Loyalist Primarchs who will be returning, and even though the Astartes that had the vision was a Space Wolf, Russ wasn't on the list.
The list:
Lion El'Johnson
Jaghatai Khan
Corvus Corvax
Great video as usual, I was wondering what you think if the Emperor had a text to speech device?
I haven’t seen it I’m afraid
worth a watch if you have time!
Grey knight lore...yeah it's very interesting, I already went into that rabbit hole. I fully agree with them needing more attention once again. It's quite interesting lore they've got. Every single one of their appearances are interesting, the times they encounter primarchs (like on Armageddon), those are extra special, though to me, an Eldar Fanboy, there's this one piece of lore that was extra special: grey knights fight these deamons on this abandonned craftworld, the deamons killed everybody, the GKs wait some time for other eldar to come claim this craftworld once they've cleaned it up from all corruption, but nobody comes (still a nice intention and interesting to know that they don't see the eldar as the enemy, unlike other Imperial forces)
Ooh-ho-ho-ho-hoh. The saucy spice boy returns.
Every time I hear the dialogue of Magnus, I only hear the Emperor TTS voice actor for him. I genuinely believe he's a good match for Magnus's character, even though yes his voice isn't 'big deep evil chaos daemon' voice type.
Magnus was my favorite. He got treated so badly. The emperor really screwed him!
I love the Grey Knights, but Magnus ain't nothing to play with either.
I would love for mags to discover. T. Tricked him. Both in baiting Horus to order Prospero’s burning and in the Ruberic Spell. Mags would so go rouge... no wraith greater than wholesome pride torn asunder...
Thank you. Good Ser...may the Emperor Bless you now and furthermore!
Dude is puppet to T man
@ Marko Oljenik Im saying wouldn’t it be crazy and ironic it Mags did find out. Say. Per. The grey knights or. One of his primarch brothers. Or emperor himself... the master of secrets, “mr. t” ....gets fucked over by big e. Or one of the other chaos powers....
The possibility of a non primarch defeating the demon primarchs bothers me too. They are even more powerful with the ruinous powers within them, so that just seems kind of contridictory. Now when it comes to the Grey knights, I understand. Demon slaying is what they are for.
First off I would probably be like what happened to Mortarion were it took I think the whole chapter to stop him and draigo only was able to carve a name in his heart because of a deamon name from what I remember
And curze got killed by a normal human
@Devon Crusader true but it shouldn't be that easy to decapitate a primarch
Good Day, Another one of your Story !!, Emperor Created Organisation With the Great Reason !,To be the Shield and the Hammer of Imperium of Man !!.
We have to remember the reason Magnus seem to evil in currant 40k is that he no longer has his more Noble side, that went in to Janus.
Gray knight are badass and that evil was saying hello to the knight
"They broke my spine."
No, *HE* broke your spine. And he should have bloody finished the job. That day is coming, Magnus.
"I punched out one of he's hearts! Why Does no one remember that?!"
@@beastwarsFTW Because he has two and the one you punched out recovered enough for Horus to punch it out before the Seige of Terra.
Or let Ragnar pike him in the eye
I like the see him try this time magnus won't be as merciful
Great as always!
whats the name of the track you used looping in the background?
I hope to the Emperor that you do some more Grey Knights readings. When Malcador hid Titan, could the Traitors have found it if they were looking for it?
The whole point of the 40k is that a mere mortal can best a daemon primarch if the circumstances are right! The whole point of the 40k is that daemon primarchs have fallen... and have fallen far from what they were (demigods, and while they may have more power their flaws are magnified and are prone to more mistakes than before)... that mortals rule their own... that the primarchs had really human flaws... that the imperium is ruled by humans (although guided by the Emperor)! I mean it is best described in the audio drama "Parting of the ways" by Chris Wraight, when the young wolf priest talks to Bjorn the Fell-handed that "he has taken the trials and in that way you are better than he was" meaning their vanished Primarch Leman Russ. Although Guilliman has returned and it is inevitable that sometime in the future other primarchs will return, it is still possible for a mere space marine to best a daemon primarch. Remember that Kaldor Draigo bested the Daemon Primarch Mortarion and carved the name of the former Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights in Mortarion's Heart. Also in the "The Emperor's Gift" the Grey Knight Hyperion bested the Daemon Primarch Angron. Also in a way the then space wolf (bloodclaw) Ragnar Blackmane bested the Daemon Primarch Magnus the Red in the 3rd novel of the instalation by hurling the Spear of Russ to Magnus' eye. The whole point of the 40k universe is that anything can happen under the right circumstances... that's why even since Guilliman has returned he still hasn't changed much in the imperial organization as we know it (besides primaris marines and the strategic way they are deployed) and his hands are tied.
My boy Kaldor Draigo!! I do hope more Grey Knights get more attention !
I think the book is more about the dark angels and thousand sons
And the grey knights were just thrown in there if they were the main focus they would have gotten a model
Did they play that one children's card game? Did Magnus loose to the wind-up kitten?
Rescue kitten first, my man.
The Grey Knights are hands down the most hard core of the transhuman war makers.
I believe that they are just as tough if not MORE SO than the Custodes. The Custodes guard and stand.
The Grey Knights never stop killing and fighting and Facing the most......well, you said it Wolf Lord sir.
Plus they are also made from the stuff of the Emperor and have a part of his Psycher skill.
@Devon Crusader right. I agree that they are that.
I also read somewhere that the same genetic markers that make up the custodians make up the grey knights. And they were also chosen by Malky and "blessed by the emperor and chosen to deal death to the most dangerous of all enemies of mankind on a daily basis forever.
I feel that from everything that I've read that the Knights could match the cudtodes in almost every way and have a psychic edge on them as well.
They stand above almost every chapter as far as battle goes and then again have a roster of opponents that are held by no other group except the Golds.
If they arent equal on every standard then they are almost equal on every one and a little better at others.
But I hear ya.
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*EDIT*
I didnt mean to write Custodes....that came out if the previous conversation we had. Lol
I'm a Space Wolves and Orks
@Devon Crusader btw, I'm not a Grey Knight player. Im a Custodes and Ork player.
Nothing like using snotlings as ammo.
*EDIT*
Meant to say Space Wolves
Why do I feel like Magnus and motarien are wild cards
Probably cause they are.
They are the only traitor primarchs who don’t still have a chance at redemption. Perturabo doesn’t want to be loyalist, fulgrim might be possessed, Angron is Angron, lorgar started this whole mess and the other two are long dead. Meanwhile magnus resents tzeentch for all the shit he’s pulled and mortarion is such a bitter bastard that he can’t help but rebel against nurgle (his scythe is literally described as impossibly clean)
Mortarion was forced to become a demon. He never wanted to worship chaos.
Grey knights have always been my army. Their lore, aesthetics, history, secrecy; everything about them is intriguing. I wish they were better in the game, but no matter how many losses I face, I cannot lose my love for them