Glad it took twenty minutes to describe the two factor model. You do compound movements to get the athlete strong, and then they practice the sport. What a revolutionary
Dont understand the need for your final point: What a revolutionary. Its dumb. Maybe this tabletalk its not about revolutionary things. Maybe its about old, well known things, which is hard to communicate with non educated people, influenced by ,,everything specific training, optimal movement… goat or cow training dont know the right name of that…”. And, we can be glad, that people with lot of views can repeatedly deliver this ,,well known - OLD FASHIONED - non-REVOLUTIONARY” basics to broader public. And for you, as EDUCATED person, it can brings you new way how to argue that thing you know WELL. But, If your speach to non-educated people is well developed, so dont waste time by this video. And dont hate it. This hates like yours, makes SaC community kingdom of dumbness. Gustav
Amazing that the guy who has overcomplicated training more than anyone else over the last few years can come in and lecture people for overcomplicating training
I don't know, I've got my criticisms of Dr Mike, but all of his training recommendations seem to emphasize all the stuff we know works. Progressive overload, consistency, and diet. Any of the off the rails stuff he goes into he's been pretty explicit about saying it's stuff you can try but is not necessary.
@@GargarksI always see this reaction to this criticism from Mike fans. Yet whenever I watch RP content, it frankly couldn’t be further from the truth. Mike et al have been pushing this sort of overly complex, algorithm friendly, novel content for years. And the clarifications only seem to come when they’re pressed. If 99% of your content is you ranting and raving about the efficacy of novel, overly complex, precise and “optimal” (whatever that means according to the latest study of the day) training where every T is crossed and every i dotted, what message do you think the young impressionable lifter is going to pick up? Not to mention to constant use of “science” and the “literature” as both a method of plausible deniability when called out (“It’s not my fault I pushed faulty clickbait! Don’t you know the science always changes!”) and the use of credentials to establish themselves as unquestionable authorities to people who don’t know any better.
@@rackpull772 Mike definitely simplifies everything, the only thing that's not simplified with his content is the amount of people that struggle to walk away after he trains them on legs. It's okay to admit that you don't watch his videos and you learned this lie from somebody else
Of course that is a common name to use but if you have to push your chin up over the bar, you have not reached adequate range of motion and maybe in his mind calling it a chin up is similar to cheating a repetition ? I say chin up as I'm a normal person lmao
Not to be that guy, but who has Mike trained at a championship level? He couldn't even get himself a pro-card as a bodybuilder. I'm totally naive here about Mike despite nearly every video on the algorithm pumping him onto my timeline despite not really watching his videos, but has he trained himself to a championship level? He's a hobbyist bjj guy, right?
@@pdecarlo I'd say it's worth noting that RP has two IFBB pros in their top ranks - one the CEO. And that the coaches that train people to championship level are rare. Most of the time it's coaches who train champions. As in the champions are already made, or right on the cusp. The champion coach comes in and helps them maintain the too spot, or gets them over that line, but much of the leg work has been done already getting them to that point. Israetel may not have coached champions, but he's a good populizer of training knowledge for those who are interested. Has he offered anything groundbreaking? No. Might many find his educational style informative and useful? Definitely. I don't think we should dismiss someone just because they haven't trained a top athlete.
And in some cases, they're great in spite of the dumb training from their "championship coaches". The guy that trained Tom Brady comes to mind. He had Brady doing a bunch of banded bullshit @Gargarks
At that high level of bodybuilding dna plays such a role that even with best trainning, dieting and pharmaceutical approach its just not meant for some people to compete at that level. That said its the quality and validity of the information regardless if they come from a pro or a skinny sports science nerd.
@ I’ve never liked mikes information, he can’t train hard so he made his brand and programs to justify training soft. Why did Lyle lose credibility, give an example.
Oh the pain of knowing how to effectively illustrate with this beautiful thing we call language yet having to chain it like a big dog on a short leash just because the less intelligent of us become insecure. Imagine having a pp bigger than 2" and everyone less than 2" crying about it. Like bro maybe mind your own knob instead of staring at mine
Your guest bodybuilds for a living and can't get his PRO CARD and gives time and time again questionable training advice. Like Bromley would say, stop with this pacifist BS and call him out on shitty advice
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Glad it took twenty minutes to describe the two factor model. You do compound movements to get the athlete strong, and then they practice the sport. What a revolutionary
Dont understand the need for your final point: What a revolutionary. Its dumb. Maybe this tabletalk its not about revolutionary things. Maybe its about old, well known things, which is hard to communicate with non educated people, influenced by ,,everything specific training, optimal movement… goat or cow training dont know the right name of that…”. And, we can be glad, that people with lot of views can repeatedly deliver this ,,well known - OLD FASHIONED - non-REVOLUTIONARY” basics to broader public. And for you, as EDUCATED person, it can brings you new way how to argue that thing you know WELL. But, If your speach to non-educated people is well developed, so dont waste time by this video. And dont hate it. This hates like yours, makes SaC community kingdom of dumbness. Gustav
Dr. Mike never fails to deliver! Been watching his videos for years now and I feel like I’ve been receiving a college level education.
You guys and Mike Israetel always have some great insights
The last warning about watching Dr Mike around children is spot on!
4:48 THE BODY!
I just lift how I want, mind my business, and Wes Watson anyone who gets in the way!
Wes Watson? Is that a new term for doing dudes in the prison shower?
I just wes my watson in the corner of the gym
This guy is the David Brent of the weights community.
Might want to get John welbourn on here to discuss athletic training models
There is some very strong hockey players to be honest.
Dr.zorp israetel vorp😂😂
Amazing that the guy who has overcomplicated training more than anyone else over the last few years can come in and lecture people for overcomplicating training
I don't know, I've got my criticisms of Dr Mike, but all of his training recommendations seem to emphasize all the stuff we know works. Progressive overload, consistency, and diet. Any of the off the rails stuff he goes into he's been pretty explicit about saying it's stuff you can try but is not necessary.
@@GargarksI always see this reaction to this criticism from Mike fans. Yet whenever I watch RP content, it frankly couldn’t be further from the truth. Mike et al have been pushing this sort of overly complex, algorithm friendly, novel content for years. And the clarifications only seem to come when they’re pressed. If 99% of your content is you ranting and raving about the efficacy of novel, overly complex, precise and “optimal” (whatever that means according to the latest study of the day) training where every T is crossed and every i dotted, what message do you think the young impressionable lifter is going to pick up? Not to mention to constant use of “science” and the “literature” as both a method of plausible deniability when called out (“It’s not my fault I pushed faulty clickbait! Don’t you know the science always changes!”) and the use of credentials to establish themselves as unquestionable authorities to people who don’t know any better.
@Screwtoast3 Appreciate your input and thoughts brother. Guess we just have two different perspectives on this one. Cheers mate, happy lifting.
@ You too bud.
@@rackpull772 Mike definitely simplifies everything, the only thing that's not simplified with his content is the amount of people that struggle to walk away after he trains them on legs. It's okay to admit that you don't watch his videos and you learned this lie from somebody else
sooo..what you're saying do is starting strength..
5:30 Underhand pull-up? Just say chin-up
Not obtuse enough 😂
Of course that is a common name to use but if you have to push your chin up over the bar, you have not reached adequate range of motion and maybe in his mind calling it a chin up is similar to cheating a repetition ? I say chin up as I'm a normal person lmao
Underhand pulloff?
Not to be that guy, but who has Mike trained at a championship level? He couldn't even get himself a pro-card as a bodybuilder. I'm totally naive here about Mike despite nearly every video on the algorithm pumping him onto my timeline despite not really watching his videos, but has he trained himself to a championship level? He's a hobbyist bjj guy, right?
He can crush a can with his bare hands
@@pdecarlo I'd say it's worth noting that RP has two IFBB pros in their top ranks - one the CEO. And that the coaches that train people to championship level are rare. Most of the time it's coaches who train champions. As in the champions are already made, or right on the cusp. The champion coach comes in and helps them maintain the too spot, or gets them over that line, but much of the leg work has been done already getting them to that point. Israetel may not have coached champions, but he's a good populizer of training knowledge for those who are interested. Has he offered anything groundbreaking? No. Might many find his educational style informative and useful? Definitely. I don't think we should dismiss someone just because they haven't trained a top athlete.
And in some cases, they're great in spite of the dumb training from their "championship coaches". The guy that trained Tom Brady comes to mind. He had Brady doing a bunch of banded bullshit @Gargarks
At that high level of bodybuilding dna plays such a role that even with best trainning, dieting and pharmaceutical approach its just not meant for some people to compete at that level. That said its the quality and validity of the information regardless if they come from a pro or a skinny sports science nerd.
You do know they’re talking about training for athletes, not bodybuilders, so what’s your point?
Mike "say anything for a dollar" isretal
😂coming from the same man who said hammer curls and seated calf raises were completely pointless
Explain why they aren't in the context of bodybuilding.
Mike your career is over, people are wise to your nonsense training philosophies. Solomon Nelson and Lyle McDonald ended you.
Okay Doucette
@ 😆 I don’t like that dude either
I don't have any affinity for Mike but I would never base anything on Lyle or even that Soloman dude. Lyle has lost much credibility over the years.
@ I’ve never liked mikes information, he can’t train hard so he made his brand and programs to justify training soft. Why did Lyle lose credibility, give an example.
Which nonsense training philosophies? Let's discuss it.
Mike a goof
Chris a goof🤓
Oh the pain of knowing how to effectively illustrate with this beautiful thing we call language yet having to chain it like a big dog on a short leash just because the less intelligent of us become insecure. Imagine having a pp bigger than 2" and everyone less than 2" crying about it. Like bro maybe mind your own knob instead of staring at mine
@@aesop2733? only thing I got from that is you like to eat corn on the cob the long way.nobody talking to you foo mind your business
This guy has contradicted himself many times now. He's lost credibility imo.
ergo the PhD is redundant
Your guest bodybuilds for a living and can't get his PRO CARD and gives time and time again questionable training advice. Like Bromley would say, stop with this pacifist BS and call him out on shitty advice
Ok lets discuss it. Which questionable training advise you speak of ?