I’ve read and studied John Truby’s books, Syd Field’s books, Blake Snyder’s books, Steven King’s non-fiction books on writing, John Gardner’s books, and many others and I’ve learned many valuable things from them but I have to say that this video presents in such a clear, concise, understandable and RELATEABLE way that I am actually back to writing! The stall is gone! The doubt is gone! Everything just clicked while I was watching this video. I’m going to order your book immediately. Words are wonderful but they can’t express my gratitude for this video. But I’ll say it anyway, Thank you so much!
You prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost the password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
I’m so grateful for this channel and Eric Edson’s teachinga. The HGS structure is helping me leave writers block behind forever. I never get stuck anymore since I learned this method. Simply brilliant! Thank you!
Eric Edson is such a great instructor. He is clear and carefully selects examples. The other videos I've seen of him always show him kind toward what people don't know or what movies they've not yet seen.
Best Character Arc lectures.... Very informative and eye opening. Sounds like an experienced lecturer, with true insight into great screenwriting. Thank you for this
"In order to find true love you must first truly love yourself!" Damn! That quote always hits me in the gut whether I'm hearing it from a love song or a movie scene as it hits to the very core of my solitary lifestyle and avoidant personality disorder especially around pretty females (particularly if they are interested in me). Coming from a background of family and school abuse it's been a silent painful struggle of daily existence of me always waiting for the next bad thing to happen since I grew up with deep insecurity and dread of punishment for the slightest infraction. But within the context of this discussion I know that pain will make for deep emotional writing as I put the pain of my past into my character through whatever problem he or she is struggling with and that's how I will engage readers to want to see my work (scripts) and be moved to talk about it (and I may even inspire fans of my work to push beyond their own life stresses in the process). LOL! =)
Thank you M. Edson for your so valuable advices. I listen to your interview for Film Courage quite often, making it roll inside my mind like a mantra. Being French, I believe that my country's film industry should humbly take Hollywood's scriptwriting gurus's lessons more into account, instead of weeping for its own poor commercial performance. (mainly due to mediocre scriptwriting.) I have been writing a feature for three years now, and your teachings definitely help staying focused on what matters and avoiding some common traps. The world needs powerful stories, with both great entertainments and profound meanings.
The Pepito Channel Why has it taken you 3 years to write a screenplay? It sounds like you still writing it. What is keeping you from finishing it? Is there some journey you're on that is keeping you from taking the risks to complete it? You should just finish it, especially if you haven't done the first draft. You can always start a different script or go back to your story after leaving it sit for a little while. Bon chance!
jjkhawaiian Hi. My project's timeline: * YEAR ONE: - the first 3 months: have made my mind about what idea I want to stand for, for which I am gonna build a story as a tool of propaganda, to implement this idea in my audience's brains. - next 6 months: have build a set of metaphoras/ allegorias/symbols, which I will use to hide my core idea in, telling a trivial story in the outside, while telling a political essay in the subtext. - last 3 months: have set my characters profiles and main story arcs. I also have set the number of scenes I want, their location and their duration. * YEAR TWO: First draft: 2 months of preparation, then 2 months scriptwriting TIMES 5 acts. * YEAR THREE: second draft: just like year two. * NOW: a couple of months for micro-corrections, then I'll submit it to some pro-scriptwriters for a critique. Well, I whish I could work faster, but each time I tried, I found the result so mediocre and pointless. I feel I have to take my time until I am really done with one step, feeling it is complete, before going to the next one.
Love your videos/insight, but I’m 31:51 a little confused. At the 30 min mark, you talk about the hero’s 2nd physical battle where they succeed which is at “HGS 17 or 18”, but isn’t the SS2 (aka Hero’s darkest hour) also at HS17/18?
Example: The Matrix. Neo overcomes his wound by facing Agent Smith head on for the first time. Morpheus said: "He is starting to belive". But the fight drags on and Neo realize he needs to scape. Manages to get away and get to next phone, but then Agent Smith apear and shoots Neo. The hero drops, apparently dead.
Greets from Brazil! Thank you very much for this incredible lecture. I can't imagine the value of these informations, and you guys are giving us for free. Please, could you share the types of character that Mr. Edson talk about in the beggining of the lecture (0:07)? Where I can find about the character categories?
ERIC EDSON (whispers) I need more time for my presentation... Is there someone coming after us ? WOMAN (whispers) John Truby ! ERIC EDSON ...we gotta get out of here...
I can't agree with making it single themed. Apocalypse Now was about the moral hypocrisy of authority, the futility of civility, our darker id, a spiritual journey into hell, questioning identity. There were a lot of complex themes at work. I do agree that a lot of "complex" films however are the writer making things up as they go.
Those items in your list are the smaller themes that structure "Apocalypse now" as a story. However, Mr. Edson's point about a single theme concerns the story's central focus about life, which a screen story should seek to illuminate. The story requires a philosophical premise that must be an overarching one.
Everyone not the expectation, the way he's talking i'm sure he’s saying this to People who haven’t had their breakthrough . Multiple themes sounds like advance screenwriting and people with a household name but if you trying to get your foot in Hollywood u need to follow the rules. he also said a lot of People trying to change the rules.
Because, it looks to me like, this is a conference. The camera was set up to record the speakers for the conference. The interpreter is there for a participant -- which is why he's sitting down signing for a person sitting on the front row.
Hi, StoryIsEverything. Theme isn't always revealed through character growth. Many good movies don't have real character growth in them, but they still have themes. In Ghostbusters the good characters win in the end, so the theme of this story is one of the oldest and most popular: "Good always triumphs over evil." That's part of the reason this film is so emotionally satisfying - the correct moral order, which is threatened, ultimately gets restored.
I'd say that while Ghostbusters has a solid story and a cast of likeable/memorable characters it does not include a theme. There is no particular message put forward.
I'm not sure that good always being triumphant over evil can be classed as a theme as such. For one it's not true. If we take a look at the real world good does not always triumph over evil. In the real world evil wins quite frequently. In the movies good almost always wins. This also means that good being triumphant is far too common of an occurrence to be classed as a theme. I see theme as either a statement made or a question raised which relates to particular human qualities and/or moral/ethical values.
Ghostbuster's theme: outsiders getting accepted. Both heroes (scientists) and vilains (ghosts) are pushed aside of society, which denies their existence. Until they both stand up and rise to be either respected (heroes) or feared (ghosts). But too much self esteem leads to arrogance, then to megalomania, like a giant marshmallow monster, which has to be blown up by humility in order to restore a good balance.
Why does every writing video always have "Legally Blond" as a masterpiece? It's a silly chick flick. Whatever happened to "To Kill a Mockingbird" or "In Cold Blood"? If you're going to teach writing, at least guide you're students toward intelligent, in-depth screenplays, or they'll be writing garbage the rest of their lives.
i think it's mostly to highlight the three act structure present in two completely different films. from chick flick to thriller, the three acts are strong, and that's what he's teaching. he's not teaching how to have taste, which should come naturally, so he's not listing tasteful films
Why are creative sometimes so boring. Sorry. Get into it. Engage, involve your audience. We don't want to be talked at. Connection is crucial. Dynamics of communication is magic. Good luck. Lost me here
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I’ve read and studied John Truby’s books, Syd Field’s books, Blake Snyder’s books, Steven King’s non-fiction books on writing, John Gardner’s books, and many others and I’ve learned many valuable things from them but I have to say that this video presents in such a clear, concise, understandable and RELATEABLE way that I am actually back to writing! The stall is gone! The doubt is gone! Everything just clicked while I was watching this video. I’m going to order your book immediately. Words are wonderful but they can’t express my gratitude for this video. But I’ll say it anyway, Thank you so much!
You prolly dont give a shit but does any of you know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb lost the password. I love any tricks you can offer me!
Too true. I've been talking about character avoidance for some time for instance, and Eric really gets it.
Hi i don't know where you are on your writing journey since 5 years ago but didn't you find they are all talking about the same things in principle?
I’m so grateful for this channel and Eric Edson’s teachinga. The HGS structure is helping me leave writers block behind forever. I never get stuck anymore since I learned this method. Simply brilliant! Thank you!
Eric Edson has just become my virtual mentor 👍🏻
Yes! I am reading his book for the 3rd time!
One of the best Character Arc lectures I have seen. Slow start but stay with it - you will be rewarded!
Hands down!!! Very rewarding
Eric Edson is such a great instructor. He is clear and carefully selects examples. The other videos I've seen of him always show him kind toward what people don't know or what movies they've not yet seen.
This starts off really awkwardly, but about 5 minutes in, it starts to get brilliant.
I will be the best screenplay writer in the word, thanks to Mr. Edson. 🥳
He's a truly great instructor. But i love how his character capitulates to john truby-another great-at end. Priceless.
Best Character Arc lectures.... Very informative and eye opening. Sounds like an experienced lecturer, with true insight into great screenwriting. Thank you for this
The definitive best lecture on the internet
Amazing lectures,
Thanks a lot
"In order to find true love you must first truly love yourself!" Damn! That quote always hits me in the gut whether I'm hearing it from a love song or a movie scene as it hits to the very core of my solitary lifestyle and avoidant personality disorder especially around pretty females (particularly if they are interested in me). Coming from a background of family and school abuse it's been a silent painful struggle of daily existence of me always waiting for the next bad thing to happen since I grew up with deep insecurity and dread of punishment for the slightest infraction. But within the context of this discussion I know that pain will make for deep emotional writing as I put the pain of my past into my character through whatever problem he or she is struggling with and that's how I will engage readers to want to see my work (scripts) and be moved to talk about it (and I may even inspire fans of my work to push beyond their own life stresses in the process). LOL! =)
amazing life advice. strangely this man is best in his chosen work.
I laughed at how true this stuff is. What a wonderful speaker and lecture.
Excellent thankyou Mr Edson!😊
This is great. Love that he uses the movie "collateral" as a story example. One of my favorite films by far.
Very helpful and knowledgeable presentation! Thanks Eric!!
I learned a lot from Eric’s lectures!
Thank you M. Edson for your so valuable advices. I listen to your interview for Film Courage quite often, making it roll inside my mind like a mantra.
Being French, I believe that my country's film industry should humbly take Hollywood's scriptwriting gurus's lessons more into account, instead of weeping for its own poor commercial performance. (mainly due to mediocre scriptwriting.)
I have been writing a feature for three years now, and your teachings definitely help staying focused on what matters and avoiding some common traps.
The world needs powerful stories, with both great entertainments and profound meanings.
The Pepito Channel Why has it taken you 3 years to write a screenplay? It sounds like you still writing it. What is keeping you from finishing it? Is there some journey you're on that is keeping you from taking the risks to complete it? You should just finish it, especially if you haven't done the first draft. You can always start a different script or go back to your story after leaving it sit for a little while. Bon chance!
jjkhawaiian Hi. My project's timeline:
* YEAR ONE:
- the first 3 months: have made my mind about what idea I want to stand for, for which I am gonna build a story as a tool of propaganda, to implement this idea in my audience's brains.
- next 6 months: have build a set of metaphoras/ allegorias/symbols, which I will use to hide my core idea in, telling a trivial story in the outside, while telling a political essay in the subtext.
- last 3 months: have set my characters profiles and main story arcs. I also have set the number of scenes I want, their location and their duration.
* YEAR TWO: First draft: 2 months of preparation, then 2 months scriptwriting TIMES 5 acts.
* YEAR THREE: second draft: just like year two.
* NOW: a couple of months for micro-corrections, then I'll submit it to some pro-scriptwriters for a critique.
Well, I whish I could work faster, but each time I tried, I found the result so mediocre and pointless. I feel I have to take my time until I am really done with one step, feeling it is complete, before going to the next one.
Sounds complex. I understand why it could take a while to write. I wish you well on your project.
jjkhawaiian Absolutely! John Truby says scriptwriting is more complex than heart surgery. Thanks for the cheering up, man.
salut mec je suis français aussi qu'est-ce que tu écris?
Thanks for the video
This is the most fascinating lecture I've ever heard!!!
Thank you Mr. Edson!
This man is best in what he does
I call it the moral, the take away, the intended message or story lesson.
Time Stamp:
00:00 - Theme
08:55 - Character Behavior
Thank you
This was really helpful. Thank You for posting.
Love your videos/insight, but I’m 31:51 a little confused. At the 30 min mark, you talk about the hero’s 2nd physical battle where they succeed which is at “HGS 17 or 18”, but isn’t the SS2 (aka Hero’s darkest hour) also at HS17/18?
Example: The Matrix.
Neo overcomes his wound by facing Agent Smith head on for the first time. Morpheus said: "He is starting to belive".
But the fight drags on and Neo realize he needs to scape. Manages to get away and get to next phone, but then Agent Smith apear and shoots Neo. The hero drops, apparently dead.
Greets from Brazil!
Thank you very much for this incredible lecture. I can't imagine the value of these informations, and you guys are giving us for free. Please, could you share the types of character that Mr. Edson talk about in the beggining of the lecture (0:07)? Where I can find about the character categories?
Fan and student for life!
Thank you for sharing these useful tips.
Wonderful video. Read his book!
I saw Collateral. How the heck you write the scene of the shooting at the disco?
Nothing but callus love.
10:50 "insure" should read "ensure"
We need some more covid web seminar content!
Very insightful
Inspiration
Super 👍🏼
ERIC EDSON (whispers)
I need more time for my presentation... Is there someone coming after us ?
WOMAN (whispers)
John Truby !
ERIC EDSON
...we gotta get out of here...
24:50
So what is the one person Adversary in Legally Blonde? Is the boyfriend or is the professor?
Nine people downvoted this?
I can't agree with making it single themed. Apocalypse Now was about the moral hypocrisy of authority, the futility of civility, our darker id, a spiritual journey into hell, questioning identity. There were a lot of complex themes at work.
I do agree that a lot of "complex" films however are the writer making things up as they go.
Those items in your list are the smaller themes that structure "Apocalypse now" as a story. However, Mr. Edson's point about a single theme concerns the story's central focus about life, which a screen story should seek to illuminate. The story requires a philosophical premise that must be an overarching one.
23:00
does anyone else disagree with when he says you only do it with '1 thing' / '1 theme' ? Kubrick movies have had multiple themes ...? 8:30
Everyone not the expectation, the way he's talking i'm sure he’s saying this to People who haven’t had their breakthrough . Multiple themes sounds like advance screenwriting and people with a household name but if you trying to get your foot in Hollywood u need to follow the rules. he also said a lot of People trying to change the rules.
I fell asleep watching gravity...
why didn't the camera film the guy doing sign language oh no---
Because, it looks to me like, this is a conference. The camera was set up to record the speakers for the conference. The interpreter is there for a participant -- which is why he's sitting down signing for a person sitting on the front row.
Eric Edson is what happens when Mr. Lahey stops drinking.
😍👌👏👏👏
Ghostbusters has no theme. It's my favourite film.
Hi, StoryIsEverything. Theme isn't always revealed through character growth. Many good movies don't have real character growth in them, but they still have themes. In Ghostbusters the good characters win in the end, so the theme of this story is one of the oldest and most popular: "Good always triumphs over evil." That's part of the reason this film is so emotionally satisfying - the correct moral order, which is threatened, ultimately gets restored.
I'd say that while Ghostbusters has a solid story and a cast of likeable/memorable characters it does not include a theme. There is no particular message put forward.
I'm not sure that good always being triumphant over evil can be classed as a theme as such. For one it's not true. If we take a look at the real world good does not always triumph over evil. In the real world evil wins quite frequently. In the movies good almost always wins. This also means that good being triumphant is far too common of an occurrence to be classed as a theme. I see theme as either a statement made or a question raised which relates to particular human qualities and/or moral/ethical values.
Ghostbuster's theme: outsiders getting accepted. Both heroes (scientists) and vilains (ghosts) are pushed aside of society, which denies their existence. Until they both stand up and rise to be either respected (heroes) or feared (ghosts). But too much self esteem leads to arrogance, then to megalomania, like a giant marshmallow monster, which has to be blown up by humility in order to restore a good balance.
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John Truby....We gotta go!.....lol
Yt
Why does every writing video always have "Legally Blond" as a masterpiece? It's a silly chick flick. Whatever happened to "To Kill a Mockingbird" or "In Cold Blood"? If you're going to teach writing, at least guide you're students toward intelligent, in-depth screenplays, or they'll be writing garbage the rest of their lives.
i think it's mostly to highlight the three act structure present in two completely different films. from chick flick to thriller, the three acts are strong, and that's what he's teaching. he's not teaching how to have taste, which should come naturally, so he's not listing tasteful films
Why are creative sometimes so boring. Sorry. Get into it. Engage, involve your audience. We don't want to be talked at. Connection is crucial. Dynamics of communication is magic. Good luck. Lost me here