I built a Double Barrel Telescope and it's ridiculous - hardware and software details

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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Комментарии • 329

  • @mandtgrant
    @mandtgrant 4 месяца назад +29

    This is exactly what astrophotography needed; added complexity! You may be in danger of becoming a diligent geek

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha true!!

    • @claudiohess7692
      @claudiohess7692 4 месяца назад

      Shure!! I imagine how hard is to align telescopes and sincronize them!!
      And the software has tens of parameters to choose and set!!

  • @geniexmay562
    @geniexmay562 4 месяца назад +27

    I have to call you out on this one Cuiv! This is NOT a lazy set up!! 😂😂😂😂😂 Looking forward to the journey 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +9

      Some are suggesting I should switch lazy for crazy!

    • @looeee
      @looeee 4 месяца назад +6

      Using a second telescope to halve imaging time or avoid changing filters or a second night of imaging are all fairly lazy things to do.
      Efficiency is laziness's cousin

    • @ulysses01
      @ulysses01 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek mission accomplished. 👍😂

  • @-Jeremiah-
    @-Jeremiah- 4 месяца назад +9

    Brother,
    Three things…
    One: that double barrel set up is the business. Gives me some ideas. A lot of innovation for being “lazy”
    Bee: carbon star has to be one of the coolest names for Astro gear ever.
    Three: watching you use those steel pliers on that equipment makes my heart hurt.
    Love your work brother.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks man! And sorry about the pliers - those porrly designed saddles kind of had it coming, I had stopped caring by then :)

  • @marvinwhisman3333
    @marvinwhisman3333 4 месяца назад +3

    You do realize that with two scopes you double the chances of cloudy skies. A phenomena not well understood due to lack of scientific study no doubt.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Marvin, nooo don't say it! You can conjure away the clouds by not speaking of them! :D

    • @marvinwhisman3333
      @marvinwhisman3333 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek So sorry. I guess that was my outside voice.

  • @aaronwilliams3949
    @aaronwilliams3949 4 месяца назад +10

    Frankenscope!! Double the pleasure double the fun. Can’t wait for the follow-up video. I love this unconventional approach!! Speaking of unconventional I just reprocessed some images by stacking in Siril but stretching, background extracting and denoising in Graxpert and you won’t believe the results. It is so fast and the image just has more detail. Also, the colors are better after unlinking the channels in Graxpert as we discussed before.

    • @nicholasfensom5582
      @nicholasfensom5582 4 месяца назад

      That sounds intriguing; do you have a vid or any documentation outlining this process? I'd love to give it a try on some old data with the new GraXpert version.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Check his channel www.youtube.com/@aaronwilliams3949

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Awesome to hear! Well done!

  • @u2b4laz
    @u2b4laz 4 месяца назад +1

    I love the maniacal laugh at 8:24 . Having two of EVERYTHING is really key but coordinating the whole thing is the more difficult part. Well done you not-so-lazy Geek! Now... when will you add a third telescope (maybe on top?) to get extra SII... Ha, just kidding...

  • @wheetgeneration
    @wheetgeneration 4 месяца назад +1

    I use a PrimaLuceLab clamp that looks a lot like the two you are using here. Wouldn't surprise me if they are both made in the same factory. So I designed and 3D printed a wrench for getting some leverage on those knobs. I would be happy to share the model file or even send you one, though I would guess California to Japan could take a while.
    I also have a lot of Vixen gear, including a nice mount that allows for adjustments in two axis. No idea if you can still buy those. Great for side by side work.
    Thanks for the great videos!

  • @regp5
    @regp5 4 месяца назад +2

    If you don't want to align the spiders you just use the stars from only one scope

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner 4 месяца назад +1

    now you just need to add hyperspectral imager and then you'll have a crazy dataset to build images from

  • @stevenickolls8016
    @stevenickolls8016 4 месяца назад +3

    For once I'm ahead of your adventures Cuiv if only in my dreams. The SkyWatcher Wave 100i can hold two optic+camera payloads without recourse to addirional plates etc. Good luck sorting dual running and dither out.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      The 100i should be great for dual fracs!

  • @MazzifLOL
    @MazzifLOL 4 месяца назад +1

    I was doing a similar setup but with Rokinon 135 lenses.

  • @PtiteSerra
    @PtiteSerra 4 месяца назад +1

    Love the idea :) and that mount... it's calling me... One day, I'll have it :p
    I have a maybe stupid question that has nothing to do with this: regarding Luminance / UV-IR Cut filters, do you know if there are differences between the different brands available? I am looking to buy a new one (I only have a 1.25" ZWO filter for my current tiny camera, and wanted to get a 2" in anticipation for a future 2600MC standard or duo camera)

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm not sure about differences, but I can say the SVBony UV/IR cut filter is cheap and works well (and has good transmittance, as measured by spectrometer)

  • @0815mkl
    @0815mkl 4 месяца назад +1

    I did that last year with the TS-Optics 94EDPH and the ASI2600MC pro and the TS-Optivs 61EDPH II with the ASI183MC pro. Bot scopes and cameras match with a very similar field of view at the end, but I had trouble aligning both telescopes. I ended up with only a little overlap. I used two ASIAirs without sync to do my testing, so I lost some images due to the dithering of one scope. But it was only a test. I'm curious how you align your telescopes that have an even narrower field of view and how your results look like.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Yep the alignment is proving... tricky for now!

  • @Reverend-JT
    @Reverend-JT 4 месяца назад +2

    What a beast! How was the balancing? Is that even an issue with strain wave?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      The WarpAstron WD-20 seems to not care one bit about balance! SWG mounts are awesome!

  • @KevinRudd-w8s
    @KevinRudd-w8s 4 месяца назад +4

    This is one of the reasons I've delayed buying an SWG mount until after Sky Watcher release theirs. Apparently the 100i comes as standard with dual saddles to permit simultaneous use of two scopes. The main reason I want this is for solar imaging with a white light and a Ha scope. Do I think your set up is insane, Cuiv? No way, it makes perfect sense, I've read somewhere that some professional observatories use similar set ups. I seem to remember an article about this in the astronomy media sometime ago, some one had combined some identical telephoto lenses and cameras to create a very powerful wide field set up.
    I look forward to seeing your images from this set up, I don't think you'll be disappointed but you may have a few problems to start with.
    Clear Skies

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      True, having a dual saddle from the get go makes a lot of sense to me! And you're talking about the dragonfly array :) www.dragonflytelescope.org/

  • @TevisC
    @TevisC 4 месяца назад +1

    You mad scientist! Muhahahaha!!!
    I've considered doing this with my asi533mm and getting a asi533mc & scope.. but I thought I was nuts.. maybe not!
    Now for the scientific question. For brute force photon gathering (absent cost) pros of this setup vs going for a larger newt?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Honestly if going for L... the surface area of the mirrors of two 6 inch newts is only marginally larger than the surface area of a single 8 inch newt - it makes more sense for different filters!

  • @smassky
    @smassky 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a new goal now! Gee thanks, my wife will be quiet pleased...HAHAHA.
    Jokes aside, thats pretty awesome!
    Itd be intersting, using the same OTAs, and compiling a stereoscopic image/video.
    Though I suppose there probably wouldn't be enough separation to notice much depth.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Unfortunately because stars are so far away, the scopes are basically parallel to one another... To have a proper parallax effect you have to use the Earth's orbit and even that only works on the closest stars :) It's where the term parsec comes from

  • @Chiclets1
    @Chiclets1 4 месяца назад +1

    Cuiv, I've been following your videos quite closely. I'm curious to know. Do you prefer the over the Carbon Star over the Quattro? Thank you!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Right NOW, because of all the insane work I did on the Quattro and all the third party accessories I added to it, I prefer the Quattro (simply because of the primary mirror mask I installed on it). But I just designed and 3D printed my own primary mirror mask for the CarbonStar so that's going to change :)

  • @astrodad-simonb277
    @astrodad-simonb277 4 месяца назад +1

    Hello, I have been considering this option with X2 70mm APO one for Ha and one for RGB, so far I can see I need to have X2 ZWO's but this has helped think a little more but I want to run NNA from in doors on a sun way as you have - can this be done as a similar set up with ASI ? EG Run NINA like an ASI in doors via wifi or do I have to have a PC out side ? thanks !

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I run NINA over wifi using Remote Desktop, I have a somewhat recent video on the topic!

  • @seanchristie9146
    @seanchristie9146 4 месяца назад +2

    looks awesome ,only good things can come from this

  • @airborne10x
    @airborne10x 4 месяца назад +1

    After the non lazy double barrel setup would love to see some results with the images when it clears up.

  • @janeclark1881
    @janeclark1881 4 месяца назад +1

    Interesting idea. You could take RGB and H-alpha pix of the same galaxy. Too bad I can't afford a double Edge HD 1100.

  • @tomabxl4374
    @tomabxl4374 4 месяца назад +1

    No you are not insane! I am insane because I be am doing a 4 scope setup with 2 askar 135 and 2 askar 180! And it is because of you! You gave me a suggestion to buy my first set 3 years ago and I am hooked now :) thanks Cuiv! :)

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh wow the bug but you hard and it's my fault and I love it!! Enjoy that four scopes setup!!

  • @davidjiannotti1537
    @davidjiannotti1537 4 месяца назад +1

    Making one of these setups. For the limited sky time it will open up the possibilities to experiment with different scopes. For instance while using my 90mm refractor I can throw my long focal length sct on and play. For the limited time under sky this could be a game changer... thanks!

  • @miguelmorales9667
    @miguelmorales9667 4 месяца назад +2

    Your are more insane then I am. I plan to run a dual array setup using the dual array version of Voyager. I was planning on using two 61mm scopes, but your setup is so much better, I just might adjust my plans to use two 150mm Newtonians. I can't wait to hear your opinion on how everything works out. 👍

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Nice!! Two 61mm scopes sounds great too, and easier to align :)

  • @siegfriednoet
    @siegfriednoet 4 месяца назад +1

    That's looking very good Quiv, looking forward to see the rest of the video's.
    But I was wondering, don't you need to have the manual rotator on in both setups in NINA, to align the framing ?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      I'm aligning the rotation visually based on the camera USB ports, it's enough!

  • @ntaylorblanchard
    @ntaylorblanchard 4 месяца назад +1

    Since you are guiding through one of the imaging scopes like an OAG do you stop guiding when that scope does an auto-focus? If so doesn't that affect the quality of the other scope`s data? Or do you sync the autofocus runs?

  • @The3DP
    @The3DP 4 месяца назад +1

    this apertura looks amazing, is it a rebuilt GSO with carbon tube and new secondary mirror holder?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Apparently I'm told GSO have a very similar scope selling, so maybe it's indeed rebranded with some enhancements!

  • @huf67
    @huf67 4 месяца назад +1

    7:55 ... I'm sure that it's just the angle causing the optical illusion, but the two scopes look degrees out of alignment with each other. Like someone with a lazy eye 👀

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      You're right, cool optical illusion! They're actually quite well aligned!

  • @psuaero100
    @psuaero100 4 месяца назад +2

    I've been wanting to do this for a while but the adjustable ADM dual saddle mounts are crazy expensive. I can imagine you might get lucky enough to have the FOVs 90% overlapping but good luck getting the sharp diffraction spikes perfect. I can't wait to see the next video!! Maybe you'll push me over the edge!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      I'm actually having the reverse issue: the FOV overlap is small, but the diffraction spikes are well synched :)

  • @andyrawlins
    @andyrawlins 4 месяца назад +1

    Cuiv the CRAZY Geek! And what better reason than just because you can 🤟🤟

  • @gerardford1116
    @gerardford1116 4 месяца назад +2

    Cuiv, congrats! And welcome to the duo club. I have an LX200R 10" and an ES ED127 in a tandem side by side configuration. Alignment of the scopes is indeed a problem. I reached out to Anthony at ADM and he advised using a TGAD for the ED127. Works very well..... Can't wait to see some photography from this mini-monster!

  • @TL1000S97
    @TL1000S97 4 месяца назад +3

    Geek par excellence, yes. Lazy no way! 😂😍Looking forward to your testing/results with this übergeek setup!

  • @jamesjester8201
    @jamesjester8201 4 месяца назад +2

    I have to send you a decent set of pliers, chuck yours in the bin please

  • @naegeleh
    @naegeleh 4 месяца назад +1

    Very cool! Wouldnt it be easier to
    Use smaller Refraktors instead of Reflektors? But Great idea!!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Refractors would definitely be easier! But hey, this is fun too!

  • @matthewhoag1510
    @matthewhoag1510 4 месяца назад +1

    How did the sync dither go for you? I’ve always had challenges with this.

  • @chrzanik666
    @chrzanik666 4 месяца назад +1

    You're criminally insane 😂😂 Jeffrey rank crazy 🤣 and I love it 😂

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha thanks for supporting my insane self!

  • @Hilmi12
    @Hilmi12 4 месяца назад +2

    I make 3d printed spanners for tightening knobs, they give plenty of torque without damaging the knob. But they need to made for specific knobs so you can't really have one size for multiple mounts. Particularly useful when wearing gloves

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      That's a great idea!! For now, I decided I didn't get about those knobs on those honestly fairly poorly designed saddles!

  • @Nabby13
    @Nabby13 4 месяца назад +1

    You don't need to align the spider veins - just remove the stars from one of the stacks and use the stars from the other.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      That works too, although even then the spike ghosts can remain around bright stars!

  • @testboga5991
    @testboga5991 4 месяца назад +1

    We need a quad barrel with R-G-B-L and why not add another H-alpha barrel as well?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      That's the beauty of OSC, two scopes is enough :D

  • @photogazer
    @photogazer 4 месяца назад +1

    Not insane. I have been using a dual imaging platform for many, many years.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Awesome! Glad to know we are indeed many :)

  • @rawhead909
    @rawhead909 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm assuming that you can achieve the same, or even better, results if you just had two rigs running side-by-side (with your AM5, for example). I sometimes do virtual dual-scope setup, especially with comets, which are often very limited in terms of amount of data you can capture before it sets (or the sun rises). Awesome dude.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      That's very true! Although I gotta say when I had two rigs I felt I HAD to use them both and sometimes one had issues, it led to frustration and to astro burnout...

    • @rawhead909
      @rawhead909 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek very fair, and reasonable. There will likely be cases myself in the future where I would like to do the same, e.g., traveling internationally for eclipse or comet photography, in which case I'd want to minimize luggage, so I am very interested in the project itself. Looking forward to further updates, especially regarding collimation of the two scopes!

  • @warrenp7861
    @warrenp7861 4 месяца назад +3

    Hey Cuiv...I had been thinking about that for a long time. It is especially useful when you find cost effective tools to solve the problems! And also how to set up software. So...thanks again.

  • @gabrielwiklund6444
    @gabrielwiklund6444 4 месяца назад +1

    Cuiv, this is illegal. Also, handling so high SNR data from single imaging sessions without a permit could result in heavy fines...

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Let's keep it between us then :p

    • @gabrielwiklund6444
      @gabrielwiklund6444 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek I promise! Luckily i´ve heard the police are lazy where you live!

  • @Ghostflyer63
    @Ghostflyer63 4 месяца назад +1

    I am setting up a similar rig with 2 80mm refractors. BTW there is nothing LAZY about this 😂😂🤣🤣

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      It's long term lazy! Or maybe not? :p

    • @Ghostflyer63
      @Ghostflyer63 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek LOL At my age I want everything to be lazy

  • @guzzialfa
    @guzzialfa 4 месяца назад +1

    You call yourself lazy? I don't think so.. maybe it's time to lose that moniker. Dude
    That's work!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Work, but all in lazy fun :p OK I do get the message :)

    • @guzzialfa
      @guzzialfa 4 месяца назад

      @CuivTheLazyGeek No message, all in fun. I enjoy your efforts and channel like so many others. Keep up the lazy craziness you Geek! Takes one to know one. They call me Inspector Gadget. Not because I have gadgets but because I usually have 2 or 3 of the same gadget.

  • @JanHavel
    @JanHavel 4 месяца назад +2

    You are one step away from having personal telescope array :) ... I wish I had the money :D

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Hey two telescopes counts as an array! ;)

  • @aruangrassamee
    @aruangrassamee 4 месяца назад +1

    Can Nina handle the synced meridian flip when having two instances?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Nope! So you'll have 1-2 unstackable subs from the secondary at that time, but that's not a big deal!

  • @mdnt_astro
    @mdnt_astro 4 месяца назад +1

    I've always wanted to do this but I'm using an ASIair so I don't know if it'll ever be possible. I've thought about doing a tandem mount and using two separate ASIairs since I have two already, and then manually dithering every 30 minutes or so. Might have to give it a go!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      You'll have to accept lost frames to dithering with ASIAirs, but it should still work!

    • @mdnt_astro
      @mdnt_astro 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek definitely going to give it a try at some point. Double the data would be well worth the effort and sacrificial frames! Can’t wait to see what you can do with it.

  • @aaronwilliams3949
    @aaronwilliams3949 4 месяца назад +1

    You might have just invented a new way to view astro images!!! What if you take the 2 separate images and display them in a VR headset so it would appear in 3D like the old stereoscopes!!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Haha I wish! Unfortunately the stars are too far away for that :(

    • @aaronwilliams3949
      @aaronwilliams3949 4 месяца назад

      It has been done. Check out Cosmic Clouds 3-D. Brian May from Queen was the creative director and developed the viewer.

  • @Neanderthal75
    @Neanderthal75 4 месяца назад +2

    Hey Cuiv! You have graduated yourself to Geek level 12! 😊Don't ask me how many levels there are, possibly a lot. What happens is, earlier geek levels can get too easy and boring, so what we do is, we increase the workload and the chance of failure and make things a lot more harder. And then suddenly we find ourselves home, when it feels like we are pushing our own limit of tolerance and patience with all the extra stuff to worry about. I have done similar, I actually do image with 2 rigs at the same time, but on different tripods. 2 Asiairs running, I got my tablet and my phone on a stand on my office table, both showing the Asiair screen with the subs, while gaming on my pc. My wife says it looks like I'm controlling a space ship. 😂

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Hahaha yes, exactly! We get bored with our simple setups and can't help but complexify them! Enjoying controlling your spaceships ;)

  • @dumpydalekobservatory
    @dumpydalekobservatory 4 месяца назад +3

    That setup is utterly bonkers Cuiv I love it I look forward to seeing the first light.

  • @Jcorban08
    @Jcorban08 4 месяца назад +2

    Wow, what an awesome set up! Crossing fingers it will be flexure-free. It’s exciting you will double exposure time for each imaging session. We are looking forward to seeing the results!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Yeah the flexure will be interesting to see for sure!

  • @amp2amp800
    @amp2amp800 4 месяца назад +2

    Madder than a box of frogs! Back in about 1980 we had a pair of massive f/16 6" victorian triplets sharing a cast iron pillar and equatorial mount in a dome on Blackford Hill (Royal Observatory Edinburgh). As a nod to technological progress, we used electric motors instead of clockwork! 🤪 Plus ca change!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh wow! Those dual triplets must have been quite a sight! And electric motors, now THAT was at the bleeding edge!

  • @Piimenta
    @Piimenta 4 месяца назад +1

    I want some of the stuff you're smoking. 8-)

  • @deep_space_dave
    @deep_space_dave 4 месяца назад +2

    This setup reminds me of the Diamond Shotgun modem with dual 56k modems 😀 Hopefully you can get at least twice as many photons! I have seen people with this setup and had been very successfully with it so I wish you the best of luck! Man that new CarbonStar setup looks really nice! I hope it performs as well as it looks! Looking forward to the results of your "Shotgun Telescope" setup 🙂 Clear Skies!

    • @AnomalousAstro
      @AnomalousAstro 4 месяца назад +2

      Win86+ if I recall, I also ran dual modems to get maximum bandwidth, Ahhh I [don't] miss the happy sound of modems syncing -much

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I was so jealous of that one friend who had that dual modem setup! Sigh... Aaaaah modems syncing....

  • @johncopithorne6176
    @johncopithorne6176 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm wondering about the coma corrector from 2 separate companies, are they similar as well or are they not being used?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      They're similar, not quite the same reduction ratio, but pixinsight star alignment won't care!

    • @johncopithorne6176
      @johncopithorne6176 4 месяца назад

      Looking forward to your review of the Carbonstar, love the channel, keep up the great work!

  • @alphaadhito
    @alphaadhito 4 месяца назад +3

    Thats 100% telescope per telescope!
    ~ -Cuiv- Cave Johnson

    • @TevisC
      @TevisC 4 месяца назад

      I wonder if he'll get the portals reference :)

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I'd prefer turrets over telescopes then, as I'm sure GLaDOS would!

  • @ticoq179
    @ticoq179 4 месяца назад +1

    why happen to me to have all that cameras, filters and telescopes?

  • @Wistowtbone
    @Wistowtbone 4 месяца назад +1

    I am insanely jealous 😂

  • @HeavenlyBackyardAstronomy
    @HeavenlyBackyardAstronomy 4 месяца назад

    Crazy ... YES ... but quite INTERESTING. I am anxious to see it in operation.

  • @kerrygreen9064
    @kerrygreen9064 4 месяца назад +1

    Crazy timing with your videos! I just completed my double barrel (actually triple, potentially quadruple) setup. I use a stacked William Optics ZS 80ii ED with a ZS 66SD on top next to a Meade 8”SCT with a .33x reducer. Cameras are an IMX585 on the 80mm and IMX178 mono on the SCT. Image scales are well matched, so my plan is to capture luminance with the SCT and color data on the 80mm. The 66mm is used for guiding. I just need some happy weather to try it all out! Your videos have been a huge help over the last couple years as I’ve rejoined the hobby after about 15 years out.

  • @sharonsharonsharon1
    @sharonsharonsharon1 4 месяца назад +1

    Next we need a 4 telescope setup with mono cameras, each with one of L, R, G, B filter :D

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I'll let you take the lead on that :D

    • @sharonsharonsharon1
      @sharonsharonsharon1 3 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek i am too amateur for that, just started an year ago :)

  • @stevenholt824
    @stevenholt824 3 месяца назад

    Hi Cuiv, I've considered this myself as I have a 150 f4. I also have a 250mmf4 newt and think I may be better just using that instead of the double 150. I'm also bortle 7 .seeing 3 to 4 . Is 250mm overkill for my skies .
    Zwo 294mc pro camera.

  • @JoseLausuch
    @JoseLausuch 4 месяца назад +1

    From lazy to insane. I like the change 😀😀

  • @michaelrushalko6040
    @michaelrushalko6040 4 месяца назад

    Cuiv, great video as always, I was running two 135mm Rokinon with am5 and two asiair. I now went dual Redcat 51WIFD. Running the asiair means I get1.5 amount of data instead of double.I plan on moving to NINA. Clear skies.

  • @stephens7291
    @stephens7291 4 месяца назад +2

    Around the 13 minute mark is when I understood that I would not be trying this in the future 😂

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Hahaha the software setup! It's actually pretty simple once set up!

  • @nicholasseidel9533
    @nicholasseidel9533 4 месяца назад +1

    Cuiv the Crazy Geek. Sorry just had to go there!

  • @bbroastro
    @bbroastro 4 месяца назад

    This is great and something I've considered doing with two 8" newtonians and 533 cameras recently. I have dark skies, so really it would be for gathering LOTS of luminance quickly. Btw, side note, do you notice any issues with stray light and the spider vane being anodised red on the Apertura scope?
    Just my opinion, but having a platform that can be modified and upgraded is a worthy cost to lower the barrier of entry. While yes, the 150 Quattro to get the most out of it does require after market parts (I've personally modified one and my own 8" newtonian) it does mean that it is more accessible for more people. The most frequent reply when people ask me what telescope I use is that they cannot afford one - I use a 200P, even cheaper than the 200PDS, so a $1K telescopes is definitely out of budget.
    A $600 newt isn't going to be the same as a $1K newt, it never was trying to be. The extra money you pay is mostly in time savings and if you have the extra $400 initially, not everyone does as a lot of people who say they cannot afford the scopes are young adults. Do bear this in mind when being critical. Some things are definitely hobby killers or unnecessarily badly designed, but others allow access - just like the 72ED doublet refractors do. So yeah, Skywatcher definitely need to overhaul their newts in general, they aren't following the trend of releasing $10K refractors and excessive (borderline unnecessary) features that you pay a premium on and have no other options.
    If we want more people to enjoy astro, then the barrier of entry needs to be reduced. Not just in difficulty, but the biggest factor.. cost.

  • @robandjo2001
    @robandjo2001 4 месяца назад

    Welcome to the double barreled newt gun club!!! I've been using a 130pds and 150 quattro in the same mount for the last year, and it rocks! LRGB has been the best use case for me. As others have said, the spider vanes don't need to be aligned.

  • @tubedude54
    @tubedude54 4 месяца назад +1

    While this is 'geeky' it certainly isn't 'lazy'! lol

  • @JoseLausuch
    @JoseLausuch 2 месяца назад

    Hi Cuiv, do you have installed Windows on the Stellarmate or does it come with its OS? Do you know if this dual setup with synchronized dithering would be possible in Ekos?

  • @anthonygraham6449
    @anthonygraham6449 4 месяца назад

    I realize you have to use 2 instances. But it would be great if the master instance could show the imaging page. The way it does for phd2. What I usually have to do is resize (small) each window to see both instances at the same time. I hope you continue to use the side by side. I could never go back. lol. This way real improvements can be made in NiNA. I’m just told it doesn’t do that. lol.

  • @sneakerset
    @sneakerset 4 месяца назад +2

    Soft tip adjustable pliers are the way to go for a little added torque when tightening / loosening assembly knobs w/o damaging the finish.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for the tip! You're right, and I'm sorry about the violence I displayed on the video, I decided I didn't get about those knobs on those honestly fairly poorly designed saddles!

  • @kevingilchrist1684
    @kevingilchrist1684 4 месяца назад +1

    you are Scary! 🙂

  • @PhilPassmore
    @PhilPassmore 4 месяца назад

    If you do away with the clamp on the tripod by bolting the cross bar directly to the mount, you remove a potential flexure point, and move the scopes slightly closer to the axis of rotation. I used a flat piece of alumi(i)um stock in place of a fancy dovetail bar.

  • @CDigata
    @CDigata 4 месяца назад +1

    i do this with rasa`s but they have there own mounts.. it then gives me the option to be on same target or not
    sorry if im just being Lazy :P

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      That's great too! I didn't want to deal with another completely separate setup for now, since it contributed to my burnout in the past!

    • @CDigata
      @CDigata 4 месяца назад

      @@CuivTheLazyGeek makes sense... boss :)

  • @M31glow
    @M31glow 4 месяца назад +3

    Very well explained how to sync two scopes!

  • @IvanRosenbreyer
    @IvanRosenbreyer 4 месяца назад +1

    Don't forget to connect the ZWO EAF...

  • @skye7690
    @skye7690 4 месяца назад

    AND, if you could connect them and automatically stack from both of them, you might get great images.

  • @davewilton6021
    @davewilton6021 4 месяца назад

    Couldn't you get close to the aligning the two telescopes with a distant daylight target, say an antenna on a distant building? It wouldn't be perfect, and wouldn't help with aligning the diffraction spikes, but it would be in the ballpark, making aligning under the stars a bit easier.

  • @mariospenard5125
    @mariospenard5125 4 месяца назад +1

    Lots of unknown parameters to achieve proper imaging result! Good luck! 😁

  • @ronhaggett2211
    @ronhaggett2211 4 месяца назад +1

    Good thing I had my seatbelt on for this one!

  • @davemoss6743
    @davemoss6743 4 месяца назад +1

    Can Pixinsight do 3D images🤣

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Hahaha too bad the stars are too far away for that!

  • @ssrattus
    @ssrattus 4 месяца назад +1

    good luck

  • @quentinG_9841
    @quentinG_9841 4 месяца назад +1

    What a crazy setup, a monster 😂😂😂

  • @nunoairosa
    @nunoairosa 4 месяца назад +1

    I want one!

  • @mevansmrichard
    @mevansmrichard 4 месяца назад +5

    Best thumbnail ever!!!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Thanks! I had a lot of fun with that one :D

  • @massimo541
    @massimo541 4 месяца назад +1

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Am_Photography13709
    @Am_Photography13709 4 месяца назад

    wow, dual telescope ! can you photograph m100? with this?

  • @siberx4
    @siberx4 4 месяца назад +1

    I've always dreamed about a multi-telescope setup like this; if I ever get rich, this is exactly the kind of thing I'd set up rather than one larger mount, because taking multiple filters at the same time sounds really nice.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Well I hope you get rich (and me too, this hobby truly is too expensive!)

  • @The_Vinceable
    @The_Vinceable 4 месяца назад +1

    Yesssssss 🙏 such a beautiful thing. I have been thinking of carbon fiber. Lighter and better thermal factors. Thanks so much Cuiv!

  • @astrofromhome
    @astrofromhome 4 месяца назад +1

    Double telescope setups are great! I am also already planning another telescope that runs at similar focal length like my beloved 70/420 Apo. In that sense I am thinking about the Askar 103 Apo with the 0.6x reducer. This gives also 420mm FL at f4. 😁 Not sure I would run it on my CEM40 or the Umi17 or one mount per scope. The double telescope setup on one mount would be my favorite because then I can run my second mount with a third telescope on a different target. 😇 Somehow I need to maximise the low number of clear nights insight the European-Cloud-Kitchen. 🤤

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад

      Sounds like a great scope! But yeah, the CEM40 is out of the question for dual scope, the Umi17 might work?

  • @EugeneRu777
    @EugeneRu777 4 месяца назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Спасибо друг.😊

  • @y2ukr87
    @y2ukr87 4 месяца назад +1

    Cuiv, The Crazy Geek ))))

  • @alexevans7916
    @alexevans7916 4 месяца назад

    Way to go...but you need 7 scopes ..seven filters...now get it going😂

  • @kukuruku1234
    @kukuruku1234 4 месяца назад

    So . . . how’s the new CYCK focuser on your Skywatcher 150? Does it work well? No light leaks? No hassles installing the ZWO EAF?

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      No complaints it just works for me! And no light leaks that I can tell. Installing the EAF was a breeze!

  • @LogansAstro
    @LogansAstro 4 месяца назад

    I set up my double barrel system about a year ago and it works pretty well but I have two quite different scopes on mine. Yours is probably the best way to go for such setups if both telescopes and imaging trains are very similar, especially the focusers. I have two quite different focusers (ZWO EAF for the Skywatcher and 2" Esatto for the Meade 10") and they are quite different when it comes to how long it takes to do a focusing run so I found a lot of down time with the master waiting for the other scope to catch up with the synchronisation. With yours being similar setups, that shouldn't be so much of an issue. I use the Optec Libra Alt-Az dovetail so I could line the Skywatcher up with the Meade but my Skywatcher rig is quite heavy so you could use the one from ADM for instance as your rigs would be much lighter than mine. Will follow your progress on this with interest. Clear skies.

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      I didn't even know about the Optec one! But yeah more expensive than the ADM... I'll see if I can just not get it and still align the scope :)

  • @andreacecchi7953
    @andreacecchi7953 4 месяца назад

    Cuiv, congratulations, this setup really rocks!!!
    The Carbon Star i awesome!
    I wasn’t able to find your review of the Carbon Star, could you please kindly point me to it?
    Thank you!!

  • @d.fresh.750
    @d.fresh.750 4 месяца назад +2

    This is fantastic, and I'm looking forward to seeing your results with this crazy setup!!! I've been eyeing the Carbon Star as a future addition...lol

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek  4 месяца назад +1

      Coming soon! The CarbonStar is a good value overall!

    • @anthonyparrett2779
      @anthonyparrett2779 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m hoping to see bigger CarbonStars in the future. And I’m looking forward to Cuiv’s results as well!