@@TONEWARSgearshow - I have a Quad Cortex and a Kemper and I have to concur with everything you say about both units. I haven't had the QC for long and I haven't really dug down into it yet - at the moment the Kemper still wins for me with the Editor and the ease of acquiring new profiles. When Neural finally deliver a PC Editor and smooths out the process of buying/importing captures will be the time when I can really get into what it can do. All the best from The UK 🤟😎🤟
@@SteveStrummerUK Thanks for commenting. Yeah the kemper really does have a lot going for it still. The editor is freaking awesome and there's a ton of great profiles out there. The desktop editor for the QC should be released pretty soon. I saw some great videos about it at NAMM.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Kemper hardware is rock solid but horrible outdated user interface. I have a Virus TI2 synthesizer made by Kemper and same deal great hardware poor user interface. My concern is will Kemper drop support of the amp modeler like they did for the Virus TI2 synthesizer?
Your Honesty is Your BEST FEATURE. And appreciated by the average person, vs. a Company. And it is their reputation on the line at the time Product is Available. I think of all the Headaches you went thru to capture with Tonex in the Beginning. UNREAL.
I have the Kemper Stage, Quad Cortex and the ToneX ...... The answer is ...... They are all good as were the sounds in this video of the units you used! =) The Kemper very much depends on a good profile capture and really needs captures at different gain stages to get the sounds you want where QC once you get a good capture you are all set. Kemper has a little bit of fizz at times with captures but the clean tones really stand out. It will be interesting to see the new update that coming up with the Kemper with the new Liquid Profiling which will allow you to model the EQ and gain settings to profiles which should make a big difference and eliminate the need for multiple captures for different gain stages. Great comparison and all amp sounds (that you were able to capture on all devices) captured were extremely usable and excellent.
Thanks for taking time to do this video , hopefully the bug fixes for the prime will be sorted soon , Qc also had teething problems at the start I guess that’s the problem with this digital platform 🤘🏻🤘🏻
😂😂😂 drinking tears. Made me hit the like button right away. Disappointing about the Headrush. I hope I won’t be asking for my money back once I get mine 😅 Great video. Loving the honesty and effort in putting this together 🙏
Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I still have high hopes for the prime. I hope they fix these issues and if they do, I think it'll be a good product. I think I'll probably still be making some clones for it and selling them on the website. With the amps that it works well with, the clones come out very good.
The Quad cortex sounds the best to me and as a Neural Dsp user I have to say they are top end quality for me. Looks like they are close to getting a desktop editing system as well as using the plugins in the Quad cortex which will be awesome for owners. You rock brother 🤘💀🤘🎸💥✌
Turned out about how I expected. Used the Kemper for about 7 years and was mostly happy with it but I always hated that mid hump and fizzy top end. Got the Quad Cortex a couple months ago and I've been loving it. It's an improvement over the Kemper algorithm PLUS has amp modeling. I just hope they follow through with the promise of integrating their amp sims. Wasn't impressed with the first Headrush so I'm not surprised with this new one
Looking forward to this one. I will put my guesstimate in before this airs(I have a QC, owned a kemper for about 6 years until I parted ways with it after using QC for a while and I had a prime for about 3 weeks - returned as it just wasn’t as good as QC for most things - although presets for stomps, amps and IR management are much easier on the prime): the QC. Based on other videos with null tests it looks like NAM is most accurate followed very closely by ToneX. QC comes up next followed by kemper. No one has done a null test with the prime yet. But when I did some head to head captures vs clones in my own studio while I had the prime, the QC was much better plus there was a ridiculous amount of latency for the prime clones - as much as 14-16 msec.
QC is the best modeler imo. I did not like the feel or sound of the Kemper. It needed help with pedals for both these issues. Same with helix but not as bad. Still did not like it. Sold both. Love the quad as I always say amps and pedals will always come first. There’s room for both. But the QC is not only really good re feel and sound but the best UI and easy to set up a sound in minutes. Not hrs of tweaking.
They all sound great to me. You made them sound excellent. We live in amazing times (at least guitar-equipment-wise) where you don't have to shell out crazy money to sound good.
Great review. You would expect that newest will always be better with digital platforms but obviously that is not the case. Kemper sound solid and its tirade and tested, QC obviously is up there. I wonder how the ToneX would stand next to these giants against the REVV?
At the outset, let me say that I have a Prime, and really like it, but I am content with downloading clones I like and not cloning my own. I would suspect that Headrush will eventually fix the algorithm, but for my lack of savvy, the UI on Headrush was the deciding factor for me; that, and the improved modeling from Pedalboard to Prime (to me ears). If I wanted to start a bad, industrial death metal band- that Revv setting is my go to. Thanks for the vid- great work and I appreciate the candor. As an aside, I vaguely recall when Fractal or Kemper units attempted to profile Hughes and Kettner, the results were wonky.
Thank you very much. Yeah it was such a strange anomaly that happened.... It also happened with the Splawn Nitro. I couldn't figure out what the deal was. It was very intermittent.
I couldn't stop laughing when you compared the revv when you got to the headrush. Lol. I know it's not funny when you spent so much time making this video. I just couldn't help it. I have both a Kemp and a Q.C. it took me almost a year to even open the Q.C. it sat in my room forever without touching it. But when you profiled the super 50 hiwatt. That was my first experience with it. I bought it and you did a great job on it. Now, I am trying to find a super hiwatt50 to buy. For me, profiles just make think, well, if it sounds this good on a profile, the real has to be even better. It's almost the new way to try out an amp before buying. That's kinda how I use it. I am looking forward to some of your other profiles.
That’s how I felt about the quad cortex and sold it, they gave an editor as a distraction from the real selling point for me, the onboard amp sims, as I own many of their sims. Appreciate the honesty 🤘🏼
I bought the new IK axe io one and captured my 6505+ with just 2 cables, I think they did an update to make it easier to do. I used my 2notes capture direct and amp only no guitar playing...pretty cool!
Appreciate your videos! For me, it's all about how well they record and sound in the mix. For me, hands down it's the Kemper. Strange thing, as some tones are really incredible when playing, listening and comparing, but they simply do not translate in the mix. FYI, I use purchase pro packs as a sound designer I am not.
Does the Revv have a noise gate included? Could that be the reason for problems the Headrush had with the Revv? Or a serious impedance Problem? I'm an amp guy still. Enjoy your honesty, refreshing!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes it has a noise gate included. I made sure it was turned off while I was doing the profiles. I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Interesting problems with captures on the Headrush Prime. Were you using mics or a D.I. type input to the Headrush? One thing to look at with real Guitar Amps is the degree of DC voltage leakage on certain outputs. It will make any DIrect-Coupled input scream with Asymmetrical Clipping as the DC is added to the intended AC signal from the Guitar. A well made in-line 1:1 Transformer will help with this, as would a properly sized DC blocking Capacitor. Just thinking out loud with my Electronics Technician brain.
Thanks for your hard work. I´m live outside de US or the EU, so when I buy something I need to see as much good and honest reviews before venturing into buying units such as the ones you just tested. Thanks.
My pleasure! I'm so glad you appreciate honest reviews. I would take a hard pass on the headrush to be honest with you. There's a lot of issues with that product.
I’ve got a Boss GX 100 it does get enough love it sounds as good as the other ones in my opinion. I had an Eleven rack back in the day which is what the head rush is based on it was a nice unit
Kinda wish I'd been able to watch this video before ordering a Headrush Prime 2 days ago... I hope this bug with their profiling gets fixed quickly, or that it doesn't hit the few amps I own which I'll be cloning into it.
From my understanding Revv equipment has been making it an issue to clone on the prime. Could be something to do with the system inside of Revv products or could be a bug in the Headrush
To my ears the kemper was best over all - the cortex low end was a bit more pronounced compared to the amps - the headrush clones that actually worked sounded very good better than the the cortex IMO
Thanks for commenting. I will definitely be doing some tonex stuff very soon. I had a faulty pedal that I had to exchange before I could resume episodes with that product. I now have the new pedal so I can resume doing episodes with it very soon.
@@TONEWARSgearshow You just about sold me on Tone X with that awesome best rig under $1k? episode. Unbelievable metal tone you captured for so little money. Definitely looking forward to any/all future vids on it (also you making your Tone X captures available!!!)
NAM - Neural Amp Modeler is free open source software, and in the comparisons that I've seen, captures/profiles more accurately. The usefulness, weight, size, expense, and lack of flexibility of hardware Amps, compared to their digital counterparts, are all negatives for the hardware. I'm glad there are so many affordable Modelers and Tone Matching software solutions.
I have the quad cortex and I love it. Just got the prime as well but strangely I have not had an issue yet. I've cloned my revv and it worked no issues. Must buggy software which is a shame. They need an update to that device.
I was able to get a perfect clone copy of a Dumble Amplifier on my HRP I do wonder if the Revv is giving the HRP an issue because it’s pedals do the same.
I wonder if you have a defective unit. I have a HRP and haven't come across any of these issues you have had with your friend's HRP. My experience is the same that other paid youtubers have shown. The only issue I have found is that the clone presets don't save. If you adjust the volume on a clone then save that as a preset it reverts back to the original clone at the lower volume. There is a work around for that if using just an amp/cab clone (just adjust the main rig volume) but it should not be something you have to do. I have never had an error come up while cloning. I also do not clone super high gain stuff because that is not my cup of tea. I did however have an error on my Tonex. It was a dumb mistake on my part where I didn't have the mixer on my interface bypassed- this caused a feedback loop. Iam thinking either A) you have a defective unit or B) the HRP does not like super high gain tones. I might have to try a super high gain tone just to see.
Ok, so I went and tried some super high gain amps and they would not clone. The process would just hang up on first part. I could get it to do the clone if I added a gate. I used my Fractal and did a Mesa DR on the red modern ch with gain on 10. It worked with either an intelligent gate or a noise suppressor gate type. Both clones sounded the same as the Fractal with those gates on. This is sarcasm: I think the HRP is idiot proof. If you are using too much gain.......not going to happen. Turn your gain down and learn how to use your picking hand better. Thanks HRP for enlightening the people!
Not a headrush fanboy by ANY stretch of the imagination but I have been able to clone 10+ amps and they all work. Multiple profiles w/ and without cab. Cloned many overdrives as well. Sorry your unit doesn’t work, hoping it’s not indicative of all Prime units but I’ve enjoyed mine for what it is.
I think the prime works well on a lot of things. It just didn't work well on that particular clone in this video. Honestly, I wish that it did work better because I would love to sell the clones on my website. I'm literally rooting for it to work well.
The Noise Gate is in the Input of the Headrush, not in the "rig" as an effect device. I would reach out to Eleven's engineers as far as the problems modeling the Revv. But, I love Liberal Tears in my whisky and I also use Liberal Tears to clean my guns.
I like your honesty, I played a fender tonemaster next to a fender valve amp, there was no comparison, the valve amp filed the room with that presence,[you know what I mean] the tone master had no feel and just sounded thin like a cheap tranny amps i used a peavey bandit for years it was ok,i saw a review of the tone master by a famous blues player,who did not tell the truth, I told him he should be ashamed, he took it down, so I will keep a eye on you're reviews nice to to see truthful reviews,
The Kemper has a great feel. Kinda reminds me of an old toaster that my Grandpa had. Just a good solid feel. Kinda feels like a solid double cheeseburger........
Man I love the Kemper as a profiler UNTIL the Quad Cortex. They're both still quality profilers, but from an electronics and algorithmic perspective, they're not even comparable. Information Theory is ultimately the primary explanation the reasoning w.r.t. reconstructing signals, but also the quality and choice of electronics makes a huge difference relative to the algorithms used as well. There is a 9 year difference in the development of the two technologies (Kemper in 2012 and QC in 2021). The choice of electronics (hardware) specific to DL algorithms (software) used by QC for profiling amps is just superior. This isn't so much of a debate as it is just the evolution of technology. I imagine there is some bias in individual opinions (which varies significantly), but the QC is the undisputed king at present. As an aside, the fact that the Kemper can still hang speaks volumes about the superiority of the technology used to develop the Kemper UP UNTIL the release of the QC. Lastly, another great video bro 🤘
Thank you so much. I agree with your points here. Although the Kemper has been around for a very long time, it still has a respectable showing in every shootout. I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
@@TONEWARSgearshow By the way I’m digging the Essential IR Pack and once I get the presets through Cortex cloud just know I’ll be celebrating with a shot of my Blanton’s single barrel and some Dokken riffs 🤘🏼
Good question, the Axe-Fx is a modeler, not a profiler. When they start doing profiles, I can compare them then. I think that is right around the corner
Lot of guys have cloned REVV and more other Amps. The clones are uploaded in Headrush Cloud. The sound is awesome. It’s very strange why and what happened with your cloning process, the Result ist terrible … I’m very happy with my Headrush Prime and haven’t any problems. Maybe your unit is just defect ?
And it's not *his* unit, a "friend" sent it to him. I hope the "friend" has been notified! And thanks for mentioning that others have cloned that specific amp :)
Just got the Prime, and alone by itself, sounds decent. It was a bit of a toss up for me to either go with the neural dsp and prime, but had i watched your vids earlier, i would've went with the neural dsp 😢 Would still buy a neural of course, just for the portability, and thanks to your honest review, its a done decision to get a n.dsp QC. Thanks alot, brother. Keep rockin! Amazin' amp collection you've got there. Amazing effort with the editing, fell out of my sofa laughin at the funnies 😂. Never a dull moment with your vids, and thanks for sharing your 2 cents! 🤟✌️👍✊️
Thanks so much for commenting and for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, the prime is actually a decent unit but, the QC is a much better choice.
I had to return the headrush prime due to poweroffs for no reason and shit like that. What this guys just did rushing to release the board will be a commercial suicide. I read about lots of guys with problems
Well, the state of play is this when it comes to profiles: NAM, ToneX, Quad Cortex, Kemper, HeadRush Prime. One of those solutions is a plug-in only, another has no effects, Quad Cortex has crap FX, Kemper has some excellent FX, but, is getting very long in the tooth. You personally destroyed the HeadRush Prime with your brutal review making the amps you used sound exactly the same and saying how bad the capture process was. So nothing is standing out at the moment all I know there is something about for the Kemper, and Line 6 it seems are about to announce something, the QC has the editor on the way who knows maybe some new FX, latency fixes, and DSP plug-ins on the way. So, its a waiting game at the moment before I need to pick a side. Checked responses below apparently there are profiles of the Revv 120 available for Primetime.
All I can speak of is my personal experience with the product. If others have better luck with it then that's good for them. As they say your mileage may very. I'm glad other people got profiles out of the revv. Hopefully it's the mark 3 like my amplifier. Also, how do we even know they actually profiled that amplifier? There's a lot of shady stuff going on in that marketplace, believe me. I've seen it
That Rev is a horrible sounding amp. sorry not sorry. I can't stand that amp. its almost as bad as a blackstar. didn't matter if it was the amp or the capture, sounded fizzy as shit and buzzy. you have much better amps than that to try this with. I think the headrush probably detected incoming of a hot turd and wouldn't profile or it needed tears of your enemies or something. All seriousness though, that capture fail you experienced is exactly what happened on every quad cotex capture I tried to make. So very strange. All the crappy captures I downloaded I was telling you about in that other post, sounded bad like your rev capture. Just tons of fizz and buzzy. not sure whats up cause I've heard your other stuff and sounds fine. Although I do think you may be a little deaf in the high frequencies. You always got just a tad too much top end sizzle going for my taste. Maybe its your in ears cutting it and you don't hear it like we do in the finished product. Those headrush boards are all shit for metal though all the way back to the 11rack or whatever that thing was called. They just keep regurgitating the same hot mess tones.
This was my first experience with your channel, and the comparisons were top-notch. Also, your honesty is a plus, too.
Thank you!
Jarrod you rock! Integrity, honesty and knowledge - what more could we want!
Thank you so much. I really hope they fix this issue. Maybe it's just with the one I was using? It was such a wierd issue.
@@TONEWARSgearshow - I have a Quad Cortex and a Kemper and I have to concur with everything you say about both units. I haven't had the QC for long and I haven't really dug down into it yet - at the moment the Kemper still wins for me with the Editor and the ease of acquiring new profiles. When Neural finally deliver a PC Editor and smooths out the process of buying/importing captures will be the time when I can really get into what it can do. All the best from The UK 🤟😎🤟
@@SteveStrummerUK Thanks for commenting. Yeah the kemper really does have a lot going for it still. The editor is freaking awesome and there's a ton of great profiles out there.
The desktop editor for the QC should be released pretty soon. I saw some great videos about it at NAMM.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Kemper hardware is rock solid but horrible outdated user interface. I have a Virus TI2 synthesizer made by Kemper and same deal great hardware poor user interface. My concern is will Kemper drop support of the amp modeler like they did for the Virus TI2 synthesizer?
Your Honesty is Your BEST FEATURE. And appreciated by the average person, vs. a Company. And it is their reputation on the line at the time Product is Available. I think of all the Headaches you went thru to capture with Tonex in the Beginning. UNREAL.
Completely agree on the headrush. I had it and sent it back.
A bug here and there is reasonable, but there were some major issues with that thing.
I have the Kemper Stage, Quad Cortex and the ToneX ...... The answer is ...... They are all good as were the sounds in this video of the units you used! =) The Kemper very much depends on a good profile capture and really needs captures at different gain stages to get the sounds you want where QC once you get a good capture you are all set. Kemper has a little bit of fizz at times with captures but the clean tones really stand out. It will be interesting to see the new update that coming up with the Kemper with the new Liquid Profiling which will allow you to model the EQ and gain settings to profiles which should make a big difference and eliminate the need for multiple captures for different gain stages.
Great comparison and all amp sounds (that you were able to capture on all devices) captured were extremely usable and excellent.
Thanks for taking time to do this video , hopefully the bug fixes for the prime will be sorted soon , Qc also had teething problems at the start I guess that’s the problem with this digital platform 🤘🏻🤘🏻
😂😂😂 drinking tears. Made me hit the like button right away.
Disappointing about the Headrush.
I hope I won’t be asking for my money back once I get mine 😅
Great video. Loving the honesty and effort in putting this together 🙏
Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I still have high hopes for the prime. I hope they fix these issues and if they do, I think it'll be a good product. I think I'll probably still be making some clones for it and selling them on the website. With the amps that it works well with, the clones come out very good.
The Quad cortex sounds the best to me and as a Neural Dsp user I have to say they are top end quality for me.
Looks like they are close to getting a desktop editing system as well as using the plugins in the Quad cortex which will be awesome for owners. You rock brother
🤘💀🤘🎸💥✌
Thank you!
Turned out about how I expected. Used the Kemper for about 7 years and was mostly happy with it but I always hated that mid hump and fizzy top end. Got the Quad Cortex a couple months ago and I've been loving it. It's an improvement over the Kemper algorithm PLUS has amp modeling. I just hope they follow through with the promise of integrating their amp sims. Wasn't impressed with the first Headrush so I'm not surprised with this new one
The amp sim promise has been around for too long.
And they still haven’t gotten there three years after the NAAM announcement/product reveal.
Looking forward to this one. I will put my guesstimate in before this airs(I have a QC, owned a kemper for about 6 years until I parted ways with it after using QC for a while and I had a prime for about 3 weeks - returned as it just wasn’t as good as QC for most things - although presets for stomps, amps and IR management are much easier on the prime): the QC. Based on other videos with null tests it looks like NAM is most accurate followed very closely by ToneX. QC comes up next followed by kemper. No one has done a null test with the prime yet. But when I did some head to head captures vs clones in my own studio while I had the prime, the QC was much better plus there was a ridiculous amount of latency for the prime clones - as much as 14-16 msec.
QC is the best modeler imo. I did not like the feel or sound of the Kemper. It needed help with pedals for both these issues. Same with helix but not as bad. Still did not like it. Sold both. Love the quad as I always say amps and pedals will always come first. There’s room for both. But the QC is not only really good re feel and sound but the best UI and easy to set up a sound in minutes. Not hrs of tweaking.
@@Utubesup7890 completely agree
They all sound great to me. You made them sound excellent. We live in amazing times (at least guitar-equipment-wise) where you don't have to shell out crazy money to sound good.
Dude you crack me tf UP lol... Since I'm a Line 6 fanboy I was able to enjoy this without a care 🤣🤣
Since I am a Boss Katana dude... I was able to enjoy this without a care! 🤣🤣
Boss katana? Lol
Thanks buddy. I really like your honest on Headrush Prime pedal. Now I'm starting to wonder, if I will buy it right now.
Excellent, you're the greatest man! Thank you for keeping it real!!
Great review. You would expect that newest will always be better with digital platforms but obviously that is not the case. Kemper sound solid and its tirade and tested, QC obviously is up there. I wonder how the ToneX would stand next to these giants against the REVV?
Bravo! \m/ well done! I am really not regretting changing out my Gig Board for the Prime.
I'm not going to lie...they all sound really good I believe anyone could dial in a killer tone.
Amen to the Quad, thank you Mr. Castro and thank you Tone Wars with Clone Wars!!!
Another great comp, Jarrod. Looking forward to Sunday's show.
At the outset, let me say that I have a Prime, and really like it, but I am content with downloading clones I like and not cloning my own. I would suspect that Headrush will eventually fix the algorithm, but for my lack of savvy, the UI on Headrush was the deciding factor for me; that, and the improved modeling from Pedalboard to Prime (to me ears). If I wanted to start a bad, industrial death metal band- that Revv setting is my go to.
Thanks for the vid- great work and I appreciate the candor.
As an aside, I vaguely recall when Fractal or Kemper units attempted to profile Hughes and Kettner, the results were wonky.
I have a Pedalboard, thinking about jumping for Prime... are you happy with Prime clones or there is a next step sound from Prime to Pedalboard?
Professional job! Soul snatching profilers. Maybe the Revv had its soul sucked out by a previous profiler.
Thank you very much. Yeah it was such a strange anomaly that happened.... It also happened with the Splawn Nitro. I couldn't figure out what the deal was. It was very intermittent.
You have a good attitude. TRUST is the most important asset you have. TRUST takes a long time to build, but can be destroyed in seconds!
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that
Finally someone made this comparison. Thank you!
This is why I tell everyone that your reviews are legit.
I couldn't stop laughing when you compared the revv when you got to the headrush. Lol. I know it's not funny when you spent so much time making this video. I just couldn't help it. I have both a Kemp and a Q.C. it took me almost a year to even open the Q.C. it sat in my room forever without touching it. But when you profiled the super 50 hiwatt. That was my first experience with it. I bought it and you did a great job on it. Now, I am trying to find a super hiwatt50 to buy. For me, profiles just make think, well, if it sounds this good on a profile, the real has to be even better. It's almost the new way to try out an amp before buying. That's kinda how I use it. I am looking forward to some of your other profiles.
Good stuff! I love my HX Stomp and looking at good amp profiler. Hate the outdated Kemper interface.
Thanks for the honest review. I appreciate you
That’s how I felt about the quad cortex and sold it, they gave an editor as a distraction from the real selling point for me, the onboard amp sims, as I own many of their sims. Appreciate the honesty 🤘🏼
just found this channel, subscribed. Thanks, I'm in for an honest point of view. Ordering a QC now.
Thank you very much. Welcome to the community! I hope you love your QC.
Good God that Revv sounds good shure would be sweet if it had the form factor of those pedals
Man im looking forward to this one. Cheers Jarrod.
I bought the new IK axe io one and captured my 6505+ with just 2 cables, I think they did an update to make it easier to do. I used my 2notes capture direct and amp only no guitar playing...pretty cool!
And there you have it. Thanks.
Quad Cortex rules and probably will for some time to come.
Appreciate your videos! For me, it's all about how well they record and sound in the mix. For me, hands down it's the Kemper. Strange thing, as some tones are really incredible when playing, listening and comparing, but they simply do not translate in the mix. FYI, I use purchase pro packs as a sound designer I am not.
This was an excellent video. Thank you.
Does the Revv have a noise gate included? Could that be the reason for problems the Headrush had with the Revv? Or a serious impedance Problem?
I'm an amp guy still. Enjoy your honesty, refreshing!
Thank you for the kind words.
Yes it has a noise gate included. I made sure it was turned off while I was doing the profiles.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Sweet!
Thanks for the comp. Prime still has no desktop controller?
Interesting problems with captures on the Headrush Prime. Were you using mics or a D.I. type input to the Headrush? One thing to look at with real Guitar Amps is the degree of DC voltage leakage on certain outputs. It will make any DIrect-Coupled input scream with Asymmetrical Clipping as the DC is added to the intended AC signal from the Guitar. A well made in-line 1:1 Transformer will help with this, as would a properly sized DC blocking Capacitor.
Just thinking out loud with my Electronics Technician brain.
Thanks for your hard work. I´m live outside de US or the EU, so when I buy something I need to see as much good and honest reviews before venturing into buying units such as the ones you just tested. Thanks.
My pleasure! I'm so glad you appreciate honest reviews. I would take a hard pass on the headrush to be honest with you. There's a lot of issues with that product.
Change from Helix to Quad cortex and I'm not going back, I love the features in the Helix but sound wise the QC is superior.
Amazing content mate. Cheers. Almost ordered one.
Totally agree with you
Great episode!
Your doing the right thing keep up the good work.
Thanks for excellent work!
Great Job
Finally !
I’ve got a Boss GX 100 it does get enough love it sounds as good as the other ones in my opinion. I had an Eleven rack back in the day which is what the head rush is based on it was a nice unit
Thanks really enjoyed this video!!
Well done!
My personal favorite, the Quad Cortex, it sounds full
Jarrod where do you buy those amp cages and stands from? I need some to clean up my studio.
I think I got mine at home depot.
Kinda wish I'd been able to watch this video before ordering a Headrush Prime 2 days ago... I hope this bug with their profiling gets fixed quickly, or that it doesn't hit the few amps I own which I'll be cloning into it.
From my understanding Revv equipment has been making it an issue to clone on the prime. Could be something to do with the system inside of Revv products or could be a bug in the Headrush
Man did I have a great laugh at that Headrush insect-hive tone
To my ears the kemper was best over all - the cortex low end was a bit more pronounced compared to the amps - the headrush clones that actually worked sounded very good better than the the cortex IMO
Thanks for your work! Is your voice AI-corrected?
Quad is really good, but a lot more expensive than the Headrush, so it should be better overall.
Love the frozen tears for whiskey!!!!
I would have loved to seen the tonex in this shoot out since some have said it has trouble doing higher gain stuff..thanks for doing what you do!!!
Thanks for commenting. I will definitely be doing some tonex stuff very soon. I had a faulty pedal that I had to exchange before I could resume episodes with that product.
I now have the new pedal so I can resume doing episodes with it very soon.
@@TONEWARSgearshow awesome, can't wait to hear it !!
@@TONEWARSgearshow You just about sold me on Tone X with that awesome best rig under $1k? episode. Unbelievable metal tone you captured for so little money. Definitely looking forward to any/all future vids on it (also you making your Tone X captures available!!!)
why should somebody prfile an amp `? I will never understand will just use whats in it point
NAM - Neural Amp Modeler is free open source software, and in the comparisons that I've seen, captures/profiles more accurately.
The usefulness, weight, size, expense, and lack of flexibility of hardware Amps, compared to their digital counterparts, are all negatives for the hardware. I'm glad there are so many affordable Modelers and Tone Matching software solutions.
I agree!
I have the quad cortex and I love it. Just got the prime as well but strangely I have not had an issue yet. I've cloned my revv and it worked no issues. Must buggy software which is a shame. They need an update to that device.
Same my prime has been fine.
3:15 dude, I also buy bulleit. I can’t believe it’s so cheap now compared to years ago, and that makes me not feel guilty about mixing it.
Definitely a great whiskey for the price. My favorite is Basil Hayden.
I was able to get a perfect clone copy of a Dumble Amplifier on my HRP
I do wonder if the Revv is giving the HRP an issue because it’s pedals do the same.
Ice cubes made from "fanboy" tears to keep the whiskey cold 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I think you got a great ring modulator clone!
I've been digging around trying to figure out how to pan in my Prime. Can't find any panning controls. Any ideas?
I wonder if you have a defective unit. I have a HRP and haven't come across any of these issues you have had with your friend's HRP. My experience is the same that other paid youtubers have shown. The only issue I have found is that the clone presets don't save. If you adjust the volume on a clone then save that as a preset it reverts back to the original clone at the lower volume. There is a work around for that if using just an amp/cab clone (just adjust the main rig volume) but it should not be something you have to do. I have never had an error come up while cloning. I also do not clone super high gain stuff because that is not my cup of tea. I did however have an error on my Tonex. It was a dumb mistake on my part where I didn't have the mixer on my interface bypassed- this caused a feedback loop. Iam thinking either A) you have a defective unit or B) the HRP does not like super high gain tones. I might have to try a super high gain tone just to see.
Ok, so I went and tried some super high gain amps and they would not clone. The process would just hang up on first part. I could get it to do the clone if I added a gate. I used my Fractal and did a Mesa DR on the red modern ch with gain on 10. It worked with either an intelligent gate or a noise suppressor gate type. Both clones sounded the same as the Fractal with those gates on. This is sarcasm: I think the HRP is idiot proof. If you are using too much gain.......not going to happen. Turn your gain down and learn how to use your picking hand better. Thanks HRP for enlightening the people!
i wonder if on some amps when trying to clone with the headrush if its clipping not making it not sound right.
Not a headrush fanboy by ANY stretch of the imagination but I have been able to clone 10+ amps and they all work. Multiple profiles w/ and without cab. Cloned many overdrives as well. Sorry your unit doesn’t work, hoping it’s not indicative of all Prime units but I’ve enjoyed mine for what it is.
there are some bad problems with the Prime.
LMFAO low and behold it turned into a Headrush Prime hate video after all 😂😂
I think the prime works well on a lot of things. It just didn't work well on that particular clone in this video. Honestly, I wish that it did work better because I would love to sell the clones on my website. I'm literally rooting for it to work well.
The LIne 6 Helix would DESTROY all of these. That is why Jarrod didn't put it into the shootout.
@@benburnett8109Is the Helix really that good?
@benburnett8109 - the Helix can't clone at all! LoL!
Be cool to see results with recorded tracks, eq match the clone from the real amp track
awesome R2D2 sounds
This dude is funnnyyyyy
The Noise Gate is in the Input of the Headrush, not in the "rig" as an effect device. I would reach out to Eleven's engineers as far as the problems modeling the Revv. But, I love Liberal Tears in my whisky and I also use Liberal Tears to clean my guns.
Midori uses Kemper. Kiko uses QC. The Trooch uses AxeFX-III. I use Boss Katana! ☺
Do the Gain and EQ controls on a QC capture function like they would on the amp being captured?
No, they are generic
I like your honesty, I played a fender tonemaster next to a fender valve amp, there was no comparison, the valve amp filed the room with that presence,[you know what I mean] the tone master had no feel and just sounded thin like a cheap tranny amps i used a peavey bandit for years it was ok,i saw a review
of the tone master by a famous blues player,who did not tell the truth, I told him he should be ashamed,
he took it down, so I will keep a eye on you're reviews nice to to see truthful reviews,
Thank you!
Does the Revv has an internal noise gate? this could be a problem while cloning.
Yes it does. It was turned off
how in the world did you get clones that bad? i've not once had one that bad, i've had one lacking the definition. updated the firmware?
Hello! Do you know whether Headrush going to make a smaller version of Prime such they did Gigboard (smaller version of Pedalboard)?
Good question, I'm going to address that in Monday's riffs and responses video.
Cool, thank you!@@TONEWARSgearshow
They just released it if you didn’t see it. Called the Headrush Core.
Saw it, thank you mate!@@usmcyounggun6879
Which had the best Feel...
The Kemper has a great feel. Kinda reminds me of an old toaster that my Grandpa had. Just a good solid feel. Kinda feels like a solid double cheeseburger........
Man I love the Kemper as a profiler UNTIL the Quad Cortex. They're both still quality profilers, but from an electronics and algorithmic perspective, they're not even comparable. Information Theory is ultimately the primary explanation the reasoning w.r.t. reconstructing signals, but also the quality and choice of electronics makes a huge difference relative to the algorithms used as well. There is a 9 year difference in the development of the two technologies (Kemper in 2012 and QC in 2021). The choice of electronics (hardware) specific to DL algorithms (software) used by QC for profiling amps is just superior. This isn't so much of a debate as it is just the evolution of technology. I imagine there is some bias in individual opinions (which varies significantly), but the QC is the undisputed king at present. As an aside, the fact that the Kemper can still hang speaks volumes about the superiority of the technology used to develop the Kemper UP UNTIL the release of the QC. Lastly, another great video bro 🤘
Thank you so much. I agree with your points here. Although the Kemper has been around for a very long time, it still has a respectable showing in every shootout. I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
@@TONEWARSgearshow By the way I’m digging the Essential IR Pack and once I get the presets through Cortex cloud just know I’ll be celebrating with a shot of my Blanton’s single barrel and some Dokken riffs 🤘🏼
What about axefx? I bet axefx 2xl and beyond is pretty much top tier
Good question, the Axe-Fx is a modeler, not a profiler. When they start doing profiles, I can compare them then. I think that is right around the corner
How is the prime 10 months later?
Also curious and wonder about internal gate
Lot of guys have cloned REVV and more other Amps. The clones are uploaded in Headrush Cloud. The sound is awesome. It’s very strange why and what happened with your cloning process, the Result ist terrible … I’m very happy with my Headrush Prime and haven’t any problems. Maybe your unit is just defect ?
I almost wonder if he has a bad HRP or if his updated firmware is corrupt?
And it's not *his* unit, a "friend" sent it to him. I hope the "friend" has been notified! And thanks for mentioning that others have cloned that specific amp :)
@@kcpiranha58 yes, I also think that PC or an error in the HRP update are to blame
I actually think the head rush unit was closest to the red head
It does a great job on most of the amplifiers. It's just a little bit twitchy on some of them for some reason.
Correct me if I’m wrong…
But wasn’t that bulleit bourbon?
Whisky? lol
I might have been
This would drive me insane... I despise digital boards of amp & fx emulators/ capturers. There are issues with all of them.
Just got the Prime, and alone by itself, sounds decent. It was a bit of a toss up for me to either go with the neural dsp and prime, but had i watched your vids earlier, i would've went with the neural dsp 😢
Would still buy a neural of course, just for the portability, and thanks to your honest review, its a done decision to get a n.dsp QC. Thanks alot, brother.
Keep rockin! Amazin' amp collection you've got there. Amazing effort with the editing, fell out of my sofa laughin at the funnies 😂. Never a dull moment with your vids, and thanks for sharing your 2 cents! 🤟✌️👍✊️
Thanks so much for commenting and for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I agree, the prime is actually a decent unit but, the QC is a much better choice.
What do you think about boss katana artist head. And amp
I played the combo and honestly didn't really care for it. Maybe the head is better?
Dude, your tangents are exhausting.
Whats wrong with that headrush? 😂 ... I have an old one and it sounds much better than that. Thinking of getting a Kemper tho.
I had to return the headrush prime due to poweroffs for no reason and shit like that. What this guys just did rushing to release the board will be a commercial suicide. I read about lots of guys with problems
Well, the state of play is this when it comes to profiles: NAM, ToneX, Quad Cortex, Kemper, HeadRush Prime.
One of those solutions is a plug-in only, another has no effects, Quad Cortex has crap FX, Kemper has some excellent FX, but, is getting very long in the tooth. You personally destroyed the HeadRush Prime with your brutal review making the amps you used sound exactly the same and saying how bad the capture process was. So nothing is standing out at the moment all I know there is something about for the Kemper, and Line 6 it seems are about to announce something, the QC has the editor on the way who knows maybe some new FX, latency fixes, and DSP plug-ins on the way. So, its a waiting game at the moment before I need to pick a side. Checked responses below apparently there are profiles of the Revv 120 available for Primetime.
All I can speak of is my personal experience with the product. If others have better luck with it then that's good for them. As they say your mileage may very.
I'm glad other people got profiles out of the revv. Hopefully it's the mark 3 like my amplifier.
Also, how do we even know they actually profiled that amplifier? There's a lot of shady stuff going on in that marketplace, believe me. I've seen it
That Rev is a horrible sounding amp. sorry not sorry. I can't stand that amp. its almost as bad as a blackstar. didn't matter if it was the amp or the capture, sounded fizzy as shit and buzzy. you have much better amps than that to try this with. I think the headrush probably detected incoming of a hot turd and wouldn't profile or it needed tears of your enemies or something. All seriousness though, that capture fail you experienced is exactly what happened on every quad cotex capture I tried to make. So very strange. All the crappy captures I downloaded I was telling you about in that other post, sounded bad like your rev capture. Just tons of fizz and buzzy. not sure whats up cause I've heard your other stuff and sounds fine. Although I do think you may be a little deaf in the high frequencies. You always got just a tad too much top end sizzle going for my taste. Maybe its your in ears cutting it and you don't hear it like we do in the finished product. Those headrush boards are all shit for metal though all the way back to the 11rack or whatever that thing was called. They just keep regurgitating the same hot mess tones.
Mmmm Salty frozen tears yum lol 😂