Pros and Cons Of Living In Colombia | Real Talk
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As you might know, we will soon leave Colombia for good. However, that doesn't mean everything here is/was bad and that it couldn't be an option for you.
In this video we will talk about the pros and cons of living in Colombia. These points should help you to get a better idea of how life could be like for you and if you should actually consider living in Colombia.
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00:00 Intro
Cons
01:04 Getting a Visa
02:12 Having Kids
04:48 Government Inefficiency
06:32 Owning a Car
Pros
07:50 Climate
09:19 Culture
11:23 Colombia's Beauty
13:19 Cost of Living
14:41 Taxes
15:52 Conclusion
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*Sam, Tasha I totally agree with you on all your talking points, retired and receiving a monthly pension is worth living in this lovely country since 2007, my size of a city is Pereira, Risaralda, mid-size population about 450,000, best advice is obtaining a residency visa, on my thoughts are the way things are going in the U.S. these days I'm better off here!* 🌴🤠👍
That’s what I wanted to hear Ralphie!!!
I also think I would be happier in a small town. Like Pereira.
I have researched it. It has everything.
I am going to do the same, Ralphie. I am set on retiring there, in Medellin specifically.
I agree. Pereira would be a really nice city to consider. Was there twice in 2020. Loved it. I was out and about freely. The people are awesome and life reverberates all over.
Beware, Medellin to me has its big city problems...
I want to see your new videos on Sicily. Regarding school in Colombia, it's a Spanish-speaking country and children learn fast. When kids from other countries come to the US, they enroll in schools and within six months they are able to express themselves in basic English, after a year of study, they are able to communicate comfortably. I do not see why it would be any different for non-Spanish speaking children enrolling in Colombian schools where Spanish is the language of instruction. When you are young, you learn new languages easily.
Yes. You are correct of foreign kids learning English quite fast… Because foreigners are exposed heavily to English in the media and “Global Culture” (for lack of a better word). Americans kids are not. Period. Most Americans don’t know that Mexico is in North America, let alone that Paraguay has its own official language. Be open minded first, raise your kids to be appreciative of others, and transition will be easier… I did not say “easy”.
Thank you very much for your channel on RUclips. Throughout the years you have given me great insight into Colombia, Medellin, the culture and the reality. Forever I will be grateful to you two. Best of luck on your next adventure and God bless you. 💛😎☮
Aww thank you so much. Really appreciate your kind words ☺️
Bueno suerte guys! Thanks for all the useful info on Colombia!
Ive travelled many years and now living in Colombia. Of all the countries ivr been to Medellin is the best city to live. Perfect weather and women! Thats all i gotta say if you have american currency coming in! No disrepect to these awesome bloggers...but Colombia is more exciting for single men to move to! I see it as a step back if your married from a more upscale country and want to start fresh. I say that because it gets too complicated to want to permanently stay with visa extensions. A single guy or woman can easily marry a local...and it becomes wayyyy easier to stay. Also..if you go to colombia married...the women there will steal the man away! Thats a fact!
That's true they are frustrated because they are married couple from europe have problem with visa. But if you plan to marry and have family getting a visa is not a big deal.
So true!!!
Also you can buy a house and get an investment visa.
We took so much advice from you guys before we sold everything in the USA and moved to Colombia. We're also documenting our expat journey on our channel. Thanks for all the tips and tricks you guys provided!
I live in Ibague part time and the other part in Las Vegas. I haven’t been to Medellin but I want to visit for sure. Ibague is great but the roads have a lot of damage. Here for 4 months on and off I don’t smell marijuana and I love the fresh air. I am married so I there is a certificate my wife got and I can stay 3 years. I love this country and it has taught me to live with less and appreciate more. Good job guys. I wish you the best. I am subscribed on my other accounts so it isn’t my first time seeing you. The other thing I notice is the exercise equipment at the parks and I think if the USA really cares about our health they would do as Colombia, but the truth is Colombia is blessed and people who think more money in USA is better and more opportunity is better, I understand but with today’s world learn a little English and you can make USA dollars online and live an amazing and better life in Colombia. 😊
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As an expat living in Medellín for the past year on a 3-year pensionado visa, agree strongly that unless you can qualify for any of several categories of long-term visas, don't come here thinking it is easy to stay as long as you want. Constantly see posts in various Facebook groups from people trying to somehow finesse the 180 days per year rule for passport entries, and believe me, it's just not worth it. Next, personally I don't miss having a car at all - easy to get around my immediate neighborhood either on foot or on my bike, and you also have the metro, buses and taxis to get around easily anywhere else in the city - as well as good bus services and cheap plane flights to get around the country. Biggest complaint really is the street noise and lack of respect for personal space, but for the most part the positives more than compensate.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences!
how much taxes do you pay in colombia?
Now waiting for your future video "Why we won't stay in Sicily"
@Diose007 That's why they should rebrand their channel to something like "How To Expat - If you don't know that you want"
AHAHAHAHHAAHHA, THAT TRUE AHAHAHHA
It would seem that most of the cons are about logistical things, whilst the pros are about cultural things. As a tourist who wants to stay for six months, I'm remaining hopeful ☺️
Absolutely! It is absolutely worth a visit, Colombia is a beautiful and divers country. The biggest issues start when you try to stay here long-term.
Thanks to your videos and your advices I am moving now to Colombia and you are leaving! I wish you the best back to Europe.
I am a little sad you are leaving but I lived in Panama for four years and feel your pros and cons are essentially the same as mine! I do know Colombia and can think of one big con..I don't want to live in a country where you can't wear shorts if you are a man..unless you want to be a walking target for thieves..silly, but true. I have been to 25 countries for lengthy visits and the only time I was robbed was in Cali..at knifepoint. I dont think I ever knew anyone in Colombia who hadn't been robbed at least once. That said, I know many fine people from there and miss the steak houses and cheap lunches! Another big con for me in both countries is the noise level. God the noise! Panama was worse but still, if you are not fond of barking dogs (everywhere) and roosters crowing (in the cities! ) choose another place. Let's face it, you're just tired of living there, I know :-) Hope to see your new posting from Italy but I suspect the bureaucracy won't be a big improvement ...loved watching your videos good luck in your travels!
To move to Colombia you need to speak Spanish or start right now and apply yourself. In my humble opinion, Europeans adjust much more easily than Americans due to the fact a lot of Americans are clueless when it comes to other cultures. Not all, but many. I prefer Bogota due to the availability of just about anything. However the weather is better in Medellin, especially at night. It can be rather chilly in the capital. If you like a slower pace then Medellin is better. But I repeat, learn Spanish and it will open up new horizons in your life. Good luck to all in your travel adventures.
Coco is so relaxed and chill!
Awesome videos. Always
You guys are so awesome and such a sweet couple together! Thanks for delivering honest and first hand info about Medellín.
It’s ironic for me because Colombia and Italy are my two target countries for retirement (I’m from San Francisco). I’ve been to Medellín 3 times this year and have to say it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Love the people, women, color and music. I’m headed to Turin, Italy for a month stay. I was in Italy twice just before Covid and it also knocked my socks off. I think it is the Latin vib!
I do not understand people who want to integrate into the culture they are moving to by learning the language. I’m Studying Italian and Spanish, not only is it preparing me, but I understand the the world better and it makes me feel smarter:)
Please up date us about Italy!
Buena suerte & in bocca al lupo!
It’s pros and cons everywhere. I’m still moving to Bogota and appreciate you both. 🥂 Enjoy your journey
We are too! I love Colombia and specifically Bogota. We hire drivers a couple of times a week. It is great….and it is still cheaper than my insurance alone in the US.
I was 4 weeks in vacation in Medellin and was surprised how nice it is. People are beautiful have good attitude towards life, and shopping malls and supermarkets are better than in USA where I live. Weather is beautiful and I felt more safe than in NYC. I walked every day about 12 hours through medellin and I came back to NYC and already miss it. I been to many countries in the world and I find Colombia very beautiful country not just nature but also people are beautiful not just how they look like but attitude towards life. And if you like so much cars why can't you make driving licence in Colombia! If you wanted you could have done and buy small used car inexpensive. You made such a big deal about driving licence but I think if you wanted to make one you would do it. And most Americans can rent a car even if you don't have Colombian licence and want to drive somewhere. If you marry Colombian wife they do let you transfer but I don't know for people who want visa. Anyway I would just move to Colombia when I would be able to get Colombian citizenship and not some visa. That would be same for Switzerland I would not move there if I would not be able to get Swiss passport. And if you move to Sicily you will see how corrupt Italians are and always try to scum you. Be aware of that in Italy when people look you in eyes and you think it's so and they lie to you and fucx you over easily
The weather sounds like San Diego
@@robjohnson7878 no its not its never so hot like San Diego. It's spring like 75 degrees every day no humidity and at night goes to 60's you can open window and don't need air conditioning. It rains almost every day little like 30 min or it can be one hour and it becomes again nice after 60 min. Plus you have all tropical fruits grown there
Ive been living in colombia for a year...whenever they have football games...the women come out hot as hell in their yellow shirts! Gotta love them all!
One of the problems is when they romanticize anything about a place they are just getting to know, then they are hit with many realities and have to eat their words, I would recommend as a Colombian that they first get to know the country, Colombia is not just Medellin, here there are different types of people with their problems and joys as anywhere in the world, gringos are the first to get hit with reality when they get to know the country.
You had 4 weeks vacation??😳😳
Hoy zäme, amazing info about a country that I didn't concider until 2 years ago. Born in Switzerland ( ebenfalls Lozärner) but then early on started to travel for work all over the world. Pre-Internet, Social media. time and usually short time. But now getting into the age, was looking for a place to stay. Lived in Mexico, El Salvador and California, picked up very well on Spanish.... So what a perfect city for me, Medellin 👏🤗. Thank you for all the videos over recent years. Sounds to me like you will be back in Mede sooner or later.
Me gseht sich.. Gruess us Texas.
im a 32 year old man from the usa looking to gain a long time visa while my fiancee is obtaining hers to move to the usa from colombia. i would like for the both of us to take every other 2 years off to live in the other country and enjoy the best things about them thank you for the honest information
I think being a kid in a different culture is easier than being an adult. I learned English and had american friends within a year of moving to the usa as a 12 y/o. It is easier to mold yourself to the society around you when you are young since you are more than likely not so set in your ways. I think most of us know plenty of older people who move to an entirely different country/culture and expect everyone in that country to speak their (now foreign) language and habits.
buen viaje y que vuelvan pronto
I was born in Ecuador and raised in New York. I feel very at home in colombia moreso than U.S. i love my people here. Im 28 on a Mercosur visa.
I am from Cali. I have seen bilingual schools.
In 2020 all the kids were studying from home... Many of my friends keep their kids at home... at the end of the day they will do the same thing their parents are doing; working remotely. Family Business. Specially if those children will inherit a property overseas, it is much better to teach them as soon as possible they can reduce their cost of living. Overall a nice tip they gave me is to keep their both citizenships if it's possible to make every process easier. You don't want your kid to ask a residence permit in a country where you were born. There are very safe neighborhoods. The best education is the one we receive at home. Financially you can make you business grow faster overseas reducing your cost of living.
I have fallen in love with Medellin from the first time I visited in August of 2021. Late May will be my third time visiting and I am seriously planning on retiring there. I will have a retirement pension there and hopefully will marry my Colombian girlfriend by then...
Beautiful couple you two 😃
Columbia is beautiful people don’t let this couple talk you out of going
I don't think they're trying to talk anyone out of moving there.
As a Colombian American I know the bureaucracy is overwhelming and insufficient there.
It's one of the few countries I know of in which if one of your parents isn't a citizen, you will not be granted Colombian citizenship even if you're born there. I think that's just wrong!
Colombia needs to streamline their immigration process.
Cheers!
What are the homeschooling options in Colombia for getting lesson materials in English?
What about getting a motor cycle who needs a stinking licence or insurance?
so the first $15k is tax free. Does anyone know the tax brackets for the rest of the income? so like if someone was making $50k how much would get taxed.
they said that if you make less than $15000 a month...I think they meant ...a year.... most of retirees in colombia make way more than $ 15000 a years...I read that for $ 50000 a year they will take 39% of your income...which is a lot...ecuador is much better
Hey guys, please the video, how you decided to come to Colombia in the first place, we know that because Colombia beauty and all that, but besides that. Thank you
Here's a playlist about our story: ruclips.net/p/PLFF2ah99RINHp2svHtfmg6lX5qvwdaxtU
Just Curious. What kind of job u can get as expat?
You won't probably be getting a job in Colombia other than starting a business of your own. How do you expect to get a visa without a job already in hand?
are you sure that if you make less than $15000 a month you don't pay taxes???
Dont you guys feel homesick?
the beautiful woman is better however I like the woman talking about medellin
If the business visa had not changed, would you have remained in Colombia?
Most probably yes. We actually didn't think about leaving before the visa issues started this year.
What about a visa through real estate investment? Is this still easy to get?
Yes, as far as we know, there haven't been any issues with our clients with a real estate investment visa.
It is not just the women who are beautiful in Colombia. Both men and women take care of their appearence and try to dress well, but men are more interested in looks than women are so the Colombian women get praised by men, while women are more interested in personality and wealth. If you're a woman, you'd be more interested in men from English speaking countries having more education and currencies with greater purchasing power.
Colombia is the worst country I have visited out of 50+. there are some nice people, but they don’t make up for all the criminality, robberies and bad quality of life and it’s only getting worse. I was happy when I left after 90 days!
Well buddy, I've been to a bunch myself and I completely disagree. To each his own
@@gladiator-dh5cb not even the Colombians like their country and want to move if they could. and being robbed 3 times speaks for itself I guess (broken into the Airbnb, in an Uber, and on the street with a gun). but yes happy for you if you think different…
@@p__jay I am Colombian and I DO LIKE my country and I just don't feel like living somewhere else. So don't speak for all of us.
@@SocialSpanish you’re not most then…I spoke with a lot Colombians, they were all sorry for what happened to me and all said they want to leave this broken and bad country that is full of corruption.
@@LouieManza Don't pay him any attention, it's probably just an unfortunate experience he had. I spent five months there before the pandemic, I had no trouble and I really grew to love Colombia so much :D
So living there is for the retiree or single with capital who is not looking to make money there or dependent on the social structure the government provide. Make sense, i would never move to a somewhat under develop country trying to survive or raise kids. Learn the language, have at least 250k to draw from, surround yourself with good family oriented people, live within the cultural means and enjoy all the pros the country has to offer.
I'd love to live in Argentina but I know the climate is bad...I am moving to Texas and am thinking about spending at least a month or two in Columbia in the summer.
@@LouieManza I am planning on going to San Antonio. But I live in Minneapolis where it can get to 20 below. I’ll take the heat. I’ve wreaked 3 cars because of ice. Now matter how hot 🥵 it is I am guessing it doesn’t cause that many accidents.
I live in S Texas and the summers here are BRUTAL! The heat and humidity make it insufferable to stay outside for more than a few minutes. It's what I most hate about living here. Other than that, it's pretty okay
@@dzikijohnny Hey John. When we do get a lot af accidents is when it snows here from time to time. People aren't used to snow so they don't know how to drive. It may as well be 20 below. 🤣.
Kidding aside, extremes aren't a good thing. I just feel that in Houston or New Orleans, the summers are extreme. San Antonio's a little better but not by much.
I own a business about an hour from my home and the thunder storms are also something to be careful with. I can't see 10 ft in front of me while driving on the freeways. It can get a little scary at times. Bad thunderstorms are quite common during summer months.
Having said that, I couldn't deal with 20 below either. OMG! That must be quite an experience!
If we could have Medellin weather here it would be like paradise.
The best asset Texas has are it's people. I'm a California transplant since the late 70's and love the friendliness for the most that Texans offer. Even in the large metropolitan areas.
Best of luck to you. San Antonio is a fine city with much to do and great food.
Best of luck to you!
@@LouieManza San Antonio is out of tornado alley isn’t it?
@@LouieManza Well that's good then...Minnesota they are more common and another choice was Oklahoma. I am a Disabled Veteran and Texas has the most benefits of any state, so that's one of the reason for my picking it.
Hello, I hope you review what is the average income needed to live comfortably in Medellin/Envigado/Sabaneta.
yea its so hard to do EASY things in Colombia. Its Weird and annoying
Do you ever plan to return to live?
Who knows, that depends on a lot of different things. However, as of now, we don't think we will return to live here again. But will definitely visit though!
@@HowToExpat okay
Is the government inefficient enough to forget to send tax bills to the wrong addresses?
Are you able to take your dog with you ?
Yes, thank god!
They have Bilingual Full English schools
Hi! Why you don't translate your videos in french? I am subscribed to your channel but understanding fails me! I speak French! Many things..
I was considering retirement to Columbia pre C0\/|∆19 and your videos reinforced that. The women, weather and culinary choices are top reasons but I'm realizinging at 64 the women aspect is not like it is in the Philippines. Is that accurate? And I don't plan to retire in the Pines
Are you considering retiring in Columbia, the capital of the US state of South Carolina?
I say Belize is a good destination and 69.2% speak English.
Get a visa consultant and you are sorted don’t be tight... bribing when abroad is never a good idea either...
Ay no qué pesar. Todavía parece mentiras que se van a ir :(
Lo séee! Después de 4 años es muy raro no imaginarnos acá en Colombia.
Pues vas a visitarnos cierto?! ;-) jaja
If it wasn’t for the visa you’d have stayed it seems....?
Why can you not have a car?
Y’all speaking from your experience that’s not the end all be all the next person experience going to be different speak for yourself
So the clerk's need a bit of cash to do the work?
11:55 slightly awkward moment lol
🐕
She rolled her eyes 🤣
What is going to happen to your dog?
He came with us, of course!
Wow no fucking snow and ice shovelling all winter
You can’t say what city is better than another that’s a personal thing stop spreading false information that’s your personal feeling
Cry a river, it’s their channel where they can spread their personal opinion, leave if you don’t like it
For the foreigners it’s very easy, they have money, in Colombia we are poor.
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You didn't mention CRIME. Why? Crime in Medellin is the elephant in the room here. I've been there seen that.
Oh, Tasha is swelling. What does the scale say?
It say's... none of your business! 😉
@@HowToExpat
I agree. You will need to have that. Ouch!
Good video! And this dude has a sexy voice!
You'll be sorry !!
So, you’re saying it’s becoming a meme of itself? Saying it over and over and over and over and over again. 🙄
Oh, and btw, the word is pronounced “ess-oh-tear-ick”, not EE-so-tear-ick
I guess Colombia is not for me. I will go to Mexico instead.
Mexico is a dump. No way id live there. Not even the cops will help you if you need them!
@@robd1329 I'm agree with you
@@robd1329 mexican cops will help you if you bribe them (so i've heard)
@@trainwreck3697 lol. Trust me once they see you are able to pay their bribe right...they'll raise the price
@@robd1329 Mexico is a very big country, maybe the system is corrupt, almost on par with the Colombian system, it is a big country with problems just like Colombia, wse the problem of romanticizing a place and being guided only by the sexual and women.
Sounds like you guys are burnt on Columbia. Good luck in Europe. Seems like most expat vloggers are not recommending Columbia due to inhospitable climate.
Wut?! The first Pro that they mentioned was the climate, lol.
Absolutely terrible!!!!
When you first arrived you loved the place and every video you claimed that same stand.
Your video here is nothing more then click bait at its best.
If you dont like it and they denied tour visa which you stated then go home.
Dont bash a country that's making you and has made you money.
You are the kinds of tourist countries do not need.
Robo cop, Really you don’t even live in Colombia,,,,cmon give it up, stop trying to make 💰 off Colombia and your mad wifey…😂