My New Daily Is (Almost) Perfect - O&W P101
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A lovely, lovely watch, with one easily resolved issue. I just can't understand why a brand would do this to a $1000+ watch, and it is the same clasp on their $1700+ diver too! Keep your eyes on these guys, they have a fantastic back catalogue to find inspiration within, and clearly an eye for detail and quality. Cheers, Jody
Damnit Jody, the hardest part of being out of a job for 3+ months is knowing I can't afford anything you show yet I can't keep from watching every time I get that notification at 3am.
Mate, it is fine, you don't have to buy them all! 😂
@@JustOneMoreWatch yeah, only half of it should be enough
Jody: "Hellooo!"
Wife: *sighs* "How much?"
@@brentp6604 lol :-)
Brent P 😂
That’s basically pre-in-house Tudor levels of quality, the good, and the bad (clasp). It’s a steal to get all this for this price. And the design, sizing and proportions are spot on. I might get one of these soon. A beauty!
Pagani need to go in there and design a clasp for them 😉
HA HA HA HA
@@UGA.D My cheap invicta watch has a better clasp lol
I think Pagani Design, should change their name to Pagani "Design", and I love Pagani
@@teddyhenriquez5192 you should be ashamed for owning that
@@Mile-long-list Life's too short to deal with other people's insecurities.
I think the pressed clasps are often lighter and more comfortable than the milled clasped. Steel is strong, they won't break.
With 300M of water resistant for a pilots watch, it is made for sky diving. love the dial.
Fun fact: there're more planes at the bottom of the ocean than submarines in the sky.
@@fedomandez "a UK study has shown..."
It's made for James Bond jumping out of a plane and into the ocean.
In case your plane crashes into the ocean 🤣
Either it's meant for submarine pilots;
or people driving James Bond-style vehicles from the sky into the ocean and vice versa.
OMG that clasp! What the hell were they thinking!😭 Such a pity, but otherwise I love it!
Love that minute hand! Seems packed with quality, be nice to see more from them
Love the watch. The clasp though is inexcusable! If you're paying 1000$+ for a watch you have a very heavy competition from likes of Hamilton, Oris, Monta, Christopher Ward etc. A milled clasp costs 10$ or less to make. There's no excuse for using the pressed one nowadays and at that price bracket.
OK I'm fine with a pressed clasp on a $300 Seiko but if I'm spending $1k I don't want pressed anything
v b i have wear their new watch ocean graph ruclips.net/video/3OJ3-_r8PT4/видео.html for a couple of weeks now. What i can say is that even if its press, it does not feel like other low quality pressed clasps, it feels quite solid. I also like full steel clasps, but i think they also left it to keep the vintage style. The strap is of superb quality and i can easily compare it to other 5k-10k watches
Couldn't agree more. If you can get a milled clasp on a $80 Parnis, there's absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be on a watch costing this much. This is why I tend to buy AliExpress watches. You just get far better specs for the money. It's also why I have a few Seiko homages, but no actually Seikos.
@RandomUser221 my hamilton has a pressed clasp
@@MrMadvillan That's just not true. I've sold Chinese watches on eBay. To make space for new ones in my collection.
The clasp isn't the real issue with this watch, the 50mm lug to lug is what puts me off.
This is a ridiculous design choice given the case size. Something like 46mm lug tip measurement would open the watch to pretty much everyone.
I hate big lugs and I cannot lie...
Doesn't really look that big in the video, though; I wonder if he's certain that this particular watch is only 39mm case?
Definitely gives it that batman cowel look!
Absolutely. The only reason I haven't bought one.
I've been away for a year. 141k subs! Brilliant. Knew the denizens of the globe would find you. New (well, to moi) intro. Solid!
Grand to see you growing.
Be well all!
So many exclamation points🙃
“Baby got lugs” 🤣🤣🤣
The clasp is a letdown, but the watch looks amazing, punching higher than most in that price range in my opinion. Nice one O&W! 👏
So it’s a bit of a late comment, but I just got the P104 S and wow! It’s a stunning watch and lol at the clasp, but again, WOW! Another great vintage look.
Jody I’m a fairly serious guy and almost never laugh to myself but I was howling when you said baby’s got lugs like that 😂😂 great as always
300m of water resistance for the incompetent pilot
I was pretty much set on buying the P-104 (I had even reached out to their US distributor) because the use of orange, the slide rule bezel, and the unique look of the bracelet makes its really incredible. Also having the two positions in the lugs for spring bars was a very thoughtful inclusion. BUT this was the first time I got a good look on that clasp. You can't have a watch that looks and feels high end asking $1200 with a clasp that is so intensely cheap in look and feel. To make it worse it's a clasp that isn't even secure which is simply is unacceptable on a tool watch.
Message to O&W please change the clasp. It doesn't have to be something with crazy features that rivals Rolex but just something that is solid and secure. I'll buy the watch once that happens as I don't want to have to spend money on getting an updated bracelet/clasp separately.
I really don’t mind hollow endlinks, push-pins or a pressed clasp, as long as the bracelet design (and taper!) is on point. So many microbrands offer milled clasps and screwed links, but the bracelet looks so clumsy that I have to replace it with a rubber strap anyway.
andreas9321 i kinda agree. A well made pressed clasp works just as well and a milled one. Only difference is feel in quality
@@hugedickerinokripperino5299 You guys are spot on, as a machinist of 30 years most "Milled clasps" are stamped out and polished not a milling machine in sight.
Very nice indeed. Love that minute hand and the bracelet really is something.
I agree about the clasp. I have a Chinese watch that doesn't have a pressed clasp. Id rather have a good clasp with a bit of nice finishing over a hidden router. It's about what the customer can see and perceive as value.
Definitely an interesting brand and watch, Some really cool vintage stuff in their history. Met the current owner at an event in the UK and he seems to be making the right choices for the brand
Colour mix between black, grey and yellow is superb I must say 👍
Can see why it’s your go to daily Jody. Very nice. 😎 I really like BOR bracelets such a shame about the clasp.
Absolutely gorgeous Jody.
I wish these companies would take a look at a Christopher Ward bracelet...the quality kicks every entry level swiss or top of the range micro brand in to touch ....i kept away from CW for years but im now hooked.....O and W have been on my radar for a while ...but i don't know if i could live with that clasp !!!
Good looking piece...but its going up against a Rado captain cook and oris divers at that price...better value in my opinion is the CW c65 vintage diver....i picked one up in their sale for 400 pounds....true value...
I you consider i have Omega tag and various top end brands in my collection but seem to be drawn to the CW as a daily wear....i think that says a lot
True! I have a Mk1 Trident, the one with the date around 4 o´clock. The bracelet and clasp are absolutely fantastic. Solid and so comfortable. Apart from being a stunning piece (in my opinion) the bracelet speaks volumes about CW´s quality.
Agreed
Never handled or wore a CW in my life, but even I can tell from pics and videos that their clasps are incredible for the money. And, quite frankly, for around $1,000, that's the kind of clasp I would expect from a luxury watch.
I’m with you. I love the build quality of CW. And if O and W get the clasp right on the next iteration of these watches, I’m there.
@@GS-vb3zn best part is the ratcheting micro adjust...its not quite glide lock but it does the job perfectly...very underated
I love the yellow with the grey, and not usually a fan of yellow on a watch. Clasp is not a big deal for me . Great review
Im glad Squale is back
That’s very nice.
The 50mm lug-to-lug is actually good for me. 39.5mm is smaller than I would prefer, the long lug-to-lug means it will fit larger wrists fine.
The clasp is disappointing. I would of preferred lume on all hour markers. If I was going to get one I would get the C-1000, more my taste.
Such a lovely vintage styled watch. And man, that design and quality for that price! Just fabulous! 😁
I have three vintage O&Ws... an ETA big pilot, a UNITAS nine-eater and a vietnam-era broad arrow field watch. Fifteen years ago you could find NOS & lightly used examples for very little money... they lurked in the shadows but represented fantastic quality... give 'em a service and they run like a top. Now that they are back in the limelight, those older ones are getting harder to find and a lot more expensive. I do hope they bring back the valjoux 7750 day-date chronograph. It had a legibility and design on par with Sinn and Fortis. It's nice to see them back in business. Jody! If you want another resurrected brand, give a look at Ikepod! Great episode, many thanks.
I got one and, although the lume is short lived, it looks great when 'on'. I measure the lug to lug at 49 mm and it seems to have lost one of the paired drilled holes. It's really very nice on leather. Just ordered a Navichron and hope the clasp has changed. I'll edit any changes in the clasp once in hand.
They've gone and done a pretty amazing job with this but that clasp, for a few extra bucks they could have easily gone with a milled. Otherwise it looks impeccably done and a unique style, so props for that. Impressed with the extra details on the movement too, I think they should offer a replacement caseback with a sapphire window to really show it off. Great work as always Jody
Very handsome watch. No question.
I would love to try one of their watches, but the lug-to-lug width might not be appropriate for my narrow 6.25" wrist.
Very nice watch. Agree about the clasp. Think it deserves the right leather strap as I believe it works better with the design
Nice review of an interesting piece. I remember the OW brand being viewed as on par with e.g. Omega in the past. Those beads of rice bracelets are precious when done well. I noticed that the pressed clasp when you first reviewed the bracelet; you didnt mention it and I thought hmmm... Thanks for giving it hell later, eventhough it was a gracious gift from O&W. You are an honest man :)
10:14 as much as I hate that Vader-scene, but... yeah. Appropriate reaction to that cheapo-clasp. Such a weird decision to make the watch beautiful where nobody will see
it and to make it ugly and cheap-looking where every user will see it every time he puts the thing on his wrist.Here's an idea: Use a standard rotor and ditch the custom engraving on the movement (nobody but your watchmaker will ever see them anyway) and spend a few more bucks on a proper, milled clasp.
That says a lot about the brand. That and the fact they said customers don't get bothered with it.
Hi, Jody! Did you see, what just Pagani Design did? 40 mm GMT. Waiting for review! Greetings from Russia!
Hello mate! Yes indeed, review coming as soon as it arrives in Sydney.....
Yes I saw the Pagani 40mm gmt. Can't wait for it to be reviewed on JOMW.
Already in my cart, but will now wait for Jodys review
@@tonyd223 hasn't a 40mm GMT Parnis been available for s while? Could you link me to the watch, please?
where is it? can't see on Ali Expres. Link?
OMG! I love the style of this! very nice!
Prefer the Sinn 104
Another nice review. I like the idea of reviewers and even podcasters giving an idea of what their daily actually is...maybe a future vid on what you look for in a watch you wear every day (or a refresher if you’ve already done the video)
Some really good-looking models on their website.
Beautiful work Jody, I’ve lined this up for a 2021 purchase
That clasp...same with the new Orient Star divers. They look very nice but then a pressed clasp!
The hour and minute hands look like litmus strips
😂🤣😂
Aaaaaaand there it goes... lol I can never unsee that.
Higher % "swiss made" does not mean "better". The handset looks like it's been sanded by a grade 5 student, they put 'faux' lume on all of the indices but only bothered to lume 3, 6, 9, 12, and that clasp is garbage. Did they also use a plastic movement ring shown at 8:06 !?!?!
The lume is actually a choice for better clarity and for a vintage ambience, just like the clasp. No, its not a plastic mvmt ring, its rhodium plated brass.
I've had an original O&W Chrono that I corresponded with Mr. Wajs directly with for several decades. It is one of my most prized chronos. It's elegant, functional, compact (for a 7750 based watch), and utterly reliable. Fit & Finish are first rate. I have had MANY 7750 chronos over the decades and this is one of 3 that have stuck. I wear it regularly and enjoy it immensely. I am saddened that the current crop of O&W watches is not of the same quality.
That clasp is the reason I’ve not bought their C1000 as yet . I’ve heard a suggestion it’s going to be revised but that was months ago, and no mention on their website
O & W have some really interesting moments in their history: from Werner von Braun to TV appearance. And they have two beautiful military /WWW watches which I hope they'll reissue. All in all, a very cool and charming brand. Great review Jody!
“Baby got lugs” 😂
Enjoyed the review as always. Like this watch a lot - although I'm a bit surprised by the clasp! Not keen on the hands and indices either, they appear cheap compared to the other features such as the stunning bracelet.
I bought my O&W M5 back in 1992 for £200.00,mineral crystal,nato strap,ETA 2824-2 movement.It sadly fell asleep earlier this year having never been serviced.It was a reissue of the early 1960's Surfmaster and was sold from PX shops in Vietnam......................
I agree, great bracelet. I think it's a shame not to have a display case back. I'll check out the rest of their catalogue as they seem fairly attractive pieces
I'm guessing that a display case would have lessened the WR rating, but then again, a pilot's watch could have coped with that! Cheers.
I love my P101. Enjoy
O&W was a good watch and a point in time was one of the few you could mod, a reasonable number of parts available. Still in all a solid entry point.
Beautiful watch. Love the hands and dial. Would pick the leather strap for that substantial saving and to avoid that clasp. Pity the bezel isn't lumed, not even a pip. Great video.
Love it!!
The clasp.... "How dare they..."
Love this! Everything I look for. But agree that clasp made me feel ill. Cannot believe customers have not been disappointed either. It’s such an easy fix! I’d be buying this on the lovely leather strap. Great watch
THEY said that customers were fine with it. Doesn't mean much, coming from a brand that has customised parts put under metal
andrei-cosmin popa yeah customers are not ok with it. When you pay a grand you want a Milled clasp. If they put out a question to buyers, stay with this or get a milled clasp I’m pretty sure where the votes will go. Why ruin such a great watch.
If you ever watch The Professionals, a british tv show of the 70s, you'll see the protagonists wear O&Ws as well.
The watches were particularly chosen to show the aucience how tough Bodie and Doyle were.
Beautiful watch, I really love the retro/modern look it’s got going on
Really hope you get a review of the C-1000 that looks great and as faithful a remake as I’ve seen for a while. I’m really enjoying Jody that you are getting more mid tier priced watches in
Nice on the grey NATO
It had better be damned near perfect. In that price range you are sitting with Oris, Stowa,
and Doxa.
Love that clasp!
Very nice watch. Desperate to find a budget GMT but most im looking at bezel is not bidirectional.
Total agree on clasp. Should make it a law a watch should have at least 3 microadjustments
Agreed. That clasp! How about saving the money on the movement flourishes and spend the £20 (or whatever) on the clasp that people interact with daily!
I am looking for the same model but I will buy an strap code for sure. Ty Jodi for the great review ❗️🙏🏻
Excellent watch the bracelet is beautiful . Clasp screw up. Hands cut with a scissors kind of cheap.
I agree. The one way to ruin a good watch is to have a pressed clasp on it. If Invicta can put a machined clasp on a sub $100 watch, there is no reason to not have one on all watches. It just makes the watch so much better.
I’d look into getting a better clasp at strapcode. It’s an easy swap if it’s not a funny size
Completely irrelevant to the video, but I have to find somewhere to unleash my excitement, and I know Jodi's comment sections appreciate a good bargain...I just got a lightly used Spinnaker Cahill for $99 on r/Watchexchange! I'm a high school student, and I just got birthday money, so I'm just so happy I was able to jump on it as I never expected to own such a fantastic watch, and a Spinnaker nonetheless, before I got a full time job and finished college. By the way, this channel is what got me into watches, thanks for all the content!
Love it. Well priced, not keen on the hand set though. The watch overall reminds me of the 62MAS. Regards from sunny Barnsley.
my thoughts too..
If you like it, check this latest model ruclips.net/video/3OJ3-_r8PT4/видео.html i agree the clasp could improve with jody, but the quality is still very good and superb on case and the strap. They declare it as hand made.
I had an o&w diver a few years back..it was a nice little watch for sure.
Lovely. I had an original O&W M65 years ago and have regretted selling it ever since!
Great looking watch, you lost me at 1000$ though!
Good full review as always Jody... I dont think there are any excuses for a clasp that poor at this price level.
This is very useful. I have been looking at their 1000 S diver for a while and giving it serious consideration. They’ve cleverly not shown how poor the clasp is on the promotional photos. I have to say it was my number one contender, but I’m going to hold off and see if they alter it. That model is more expensive still selling for north of £1350 UK over $1600 US , and I’d have been disappointed I’m sure once I’d seen it in the flesh so to speak. Just goes to show how useful a bit of reliable extra information is . Thanks
Nice watch, replace the clasp and add more lume, no excuse when shelling out that much money.
Great review! You're right - that clasp is absolutely shocking considering the price point of the watch! Imagine spending that amount on a watch that doesnt secure to the wrist properly!!
You should check out the Ocean Graph!
Sir, so interesting. Thankyou. (the nato strap seems a good match )
Nice watch, quality!
Thanks for the intro to this watch! Hard to believe the dial, case, bracelet and even the hidden movement and rotor being so beautiful and meticulously detailed only to have the ugly pressed clasped! Bummer! I think the watch looks best when worn with that bracelet!
So Jody, you could get this O&W or for the same price you could get the Sinn 104... seems like the Sinn is a better all around choice. Your thoughts??
Good review hard to be objective when they give you a watch but a reasonable balance and I agree the watch is excellent. I can also see the bracelet frustrations. Shame they cut costs on the bracelet probably 50 dollars would have fixed it. Look at what Strapcode do for 120 dollars it’s pretty amazing.
Likely the original design had see through case back, so the engraved rotor. Switch happened late in the design so they used rotors they already ordered.
smh.. these companies definitely need to reevaluate their products (Swiss or not). 1k USD for a primarily printed dial with a cheap clasp w/o micro adjust is just not good enough anymore
Wow that watch is absolutely stunning unfortunately 1000 is to much for me right now but hopefully I can make a purchase in the next few months or maybe I’ll wait tell they fix the clasp
What a beauty! Love it!
I understand that the company is redesigning the bracelet.
Hey Jodie. Great review. I heard of this company but never paid them any serious attention until your review. This is a beautiful watch. I would say it's as nice as my Oris. I actually like that "baby got lugs". It makes the under 41mm watches look better on my wrist size 7.25-7.5". I can agree with you on the clasp being that the company went out and put a custom rotor on the movement which many people will never see. They can upgrade the clasp. You just sold another watch brother. I hope you get something from me using the link provided from this video. As I have told you before, you have one of the best watch shows out. I just like watches, don't care where they come from but do respect horological history of different places and brands. Sorry for the long comment. I hope the company listen to you because you give the fairest reviews. Keep em coming brother. Thank you again.
I'd never heard of this brand until about 2-3 weeks when a ads started popping up for them in the sidebar of Facebook. They're doing a hard court press in marketing.
Owned a couple of O&W's in the early 2000's when they were still basically Sub clones. Back then they were priced in the 350.00 range and quality control was hit or miss, mostly miss. Nice to see their designs have been freshened up and the brand still around. I'm somewhat in the minority these days on watch size in that my first dive watch was a Seiko 6309-7040 in the early 80's and that kind of set the standard for what I look for in watch sizing. Anything below 41mm for me and I feel like I'm wearing a ladies watch (not that there's anything wrong with that), ahem. Anyway, great review, keep'em coming.
nice looking piece.
I like it. Good review, Cheers Jody 👍🏻
Edit... Isn't the name the same as the rather odd Black Bay?
Very nice looking and well made watch, definitely a strap monster too!
Awesome review Jody when you opened the clasp though a little bit of sick was in my mouth 😝
Why not sell watches without bracelets or straps. Let companies who want to specialise in those areas do the work and let watch makers who (obviously) don't really care leave it those that do. This bracelet is WAY too blingy for a pilot watch. The leather was much nicer IMO. I couldn't stop cringing at how long those lugs were. They stuck out way too far. As always your reviews Jody are awesome and entertaining. Glad to see some more upmarket stuff on the channel. Maybe you need another channel for the more luxury stuff? Just One Luxury Watch...since I cannot afford two.
The claps is a let down on my Grand Seiko SBGA211 as well.
I wondered how long you would take to mention the clasp but was surprised that it was that bad. Still going to check out their website though. Great review thank you.