@@daddyfoosa7712 If I won't personally use whatever is offered, I won't accept. Why would I want to advertise a product I myself wouldn't use at any point?
@@southweststrangla9591 yeah that’s why you see multiple videos by content creators saying “This is ridiculous”. I’m not saying only G/91’s, I’m saying all bullpup jets should have a higher br in Ground RB.
@@doktork3406 Only way of changing it would be giving premium with bulpups to Americans too, even though they sort of did that with FJ and A4E. It's mainly playerbase fault as well as content creators which shows G91 more often than American counterparts, you can abuse American planes way more than German ones, you can have 13 agms compared to german 8.
Short answer: CAS is cancerous asf They literally ruins the fun in ground battles even if you are using an high tier SPAA and i literally wanted to punch the guy who revenged bomb me
@@SuperTrb0 you probably have not faced Tiger UHT at top tier. That shit is cancerous. Give everyone fire and forget missiles and see how that shit works out for Germany.
@@SuperTrb0 so the ADATS (US/UK) dose not exist, Germanys top SPAA is not just a huge cardboard box with a firecracker one top of it and that Franc uses the same system is also a fact of fiction.... okay....... i think that's enough WT community crying for me to day
The main reason of those things performing so well (at least it appears to do so) its because it is being spammed, also the brits and the us have something similar to it the scimitar (which as a plane performs even better than the G.91) and the Fj-4b (which has better armaments), but for some reason I only see a few Fjs during events like this. So it’s not a thing with the plane it self, but everyone is using the G.91 instead of other still very valuable choices
@@vale.44peru because the tech tree g91r3 is 99k rp to get and 390k to buy or just get one of the premium ones, the scimitar and FJ are 390k rp and 990k SL to buy, plus their modifications are also more expensive, so you have 2 planes that are 4 times as expensive and the FJ can only carry mighty mouse, the a4b is also 4 times more expensive than the g91r3, and the squadron a4e also gets spammed but it has less time in the game, and even then the only g91 with decent cas ordinance in italy is the premium one cuz all the tech tree ones at best can carry dumb bombs
@@lecszynskialex4698 Camping is not always bad only if done by to many in a bad Spot. Camping on a point is far better than driving without a brain forward into the enemy.
@@AbyRemy Yeah germany high tier is far to powerful right now. 9.0 and above u can only play the germans or u can play something else if u want to lose lmao. Im a german main and the Leo 2a6 is cool but this thing is so stupidly strong. It doesnt even have a real opponent to counter it. The t72b3 and t90a are a joke against this machine.
Well, i dont get mad at g91 r3 players bcz they grinded for it and they deserve to have fun. But i have no respect for usa players who cry about it while they have 2 a4s, and the fj4. U can literally get ur free a4e early from day1, with air to air missiles
It would be nice if they added some special explosions to the tanks where it literally blows up into pieces, especially for light vehicles, but other tanks could blow up in different ways aswell, not only turret poping out....
Oh, the humanity... Seriously, can you blame those guys for bailing after 1st death? second spawn, you are dead in 5 seconds from missiles raining out of the sky.
I love it how the SPAA he is up against cant hit him for shit, but as soon as i take my FJ-4B VMF i get instantly sniped by gepards and even kugelbitzes from 3 km out... -_-
I have a theory about this tbh. German players are the most likely to actually grind out their SPAAG line since its arguably the best SPAAG line ingame (it falls off at the top compared to US and russia tho). Because of this german players most likely have the most experienced SPAAG players and as such tend to clear the skies and keep them that way more consistantly than other nations. Thats just my opinion as someone with thousands of games played in SPAAGs tho :p
@@MythicPi i had a thought about this very concept as soon as i posted my comment! makes sence, witch means gaijin needs to add good early spaa to alied nations.
That may be true, as a german SPAA player i can tell you that since the early tiers you learn to wait with your SPAA for the best shot when the enemy plane it's near you, something i see from allied players at mid-high BR is that most of them don't know how to engage, when i use my G.91 i can just fly at 2.5-3km above the ground and literally wait for any allied SPAA to spray and pray showing me where they are, leaving them defenseless against my nords, the ones that wait for that letal shot usually end up killing me without effort, the only SPAA i have seen being able to take down planes at 2.5km it's the m247 and that comes from it's VT rounds
@@alejandroperfectoge7095 The chinese ZSU-57-2 is even more lethal to planes, but barely anyone plays it or china in general! XD But yea, we still agree that german SPAA players just have more experience with SPAA, hence knowing when to engage.
Nords & Bullpups should really be uptiered to face SAM's, your video clearly shows this, imagine playing on the receiving end of this. I got no issues getting attacked by air to ground missiles with missiles to counter them. The problem is that even a sgt. York has difficulty because of the range of engagement of the bullpups/nords and that the 'instructor' aims the plane for you to wherever you point your mouse, on the contrary: the spaag has to aim themselves and at a high speed evasive target. - balance is simple - all bullpup loadouts have to go up in BR to face the sams, at least in RB mode that has the instructor aiming the launch for you - in sim not so easy and maybe it can stay status quo in sim, but in rb its ridiculous. Try doing what you did with an adats or tunguska around and it would be over quick, sams will force you to be cautious, not this careless shooting fish in a barrel scene that happens every match with the G91's. Gaijin has been here before, the Spitfires/Fw190's with rockets of old effects did the same (actually not even as bad). There's just no excuse for gaijin to do this, its not like they don't know its happening.
Even SAM aren't that reliable at killing these planes. I have flew the G91 at 10.7, and I can literally hear the SAM missile coming at me and they are surprisingly easy to dodge for something made to kill planes, so I just have to dodge and be on my business again. The thing is, I'm not the only one in the game - there are many more around, and with how easy to delete a tank with Nord regardless of BR, you can see 3-4 G91s coming due to low cost spawn, and they are more than enough to kill anything on the ground.
usualy soviet's upper plate and turret is tuff if u see crit shots, u can see the missile hitting the front of turrets, but splash in the other hand go to very weakspots of tanks, floor and sides
Making the best lineup at its BR even better and easier to use as well as making anyone with a some money can easily get a decent lineup in just the L44 and the G.91/R4. Nice video though man!
C2A1 for even less money but yea, what you described is what more than half of the germany-playerbase is. It's at a point where I, as a German, would be ashamed to play my own nation at this BR.
This ladies and gentlemen's, is the state of 8.0 or higher. You put all the money in the current META nation and have fun, or you just get steamrolled.
It doesn't help that the G.91/R3 is easily obtainable compared to other similar aircraft with AGMs. It sits at 99k RP whereas others are 390k RP with other high RP cost planes blocking the way. The plane was supposed to have its RP cost changed in the past economy updates but it got pulled out since many of the Axis players didn't like that change haha
the funny thing is that most of the players completely ignore that at that same br at 8.7 the US has two planes that can carry 5 Bullpups and one that can carry 3, which all of them are spammed too but no "Germany op plz nerf"
The difference is that one of the ones that can carry 5 is on the marketplace for like 300$. Then the other at equal tier of 8.7 has only 3, not 4, and is a less good airframe. Then the one at 9.0 which also has 5 is at a higher BR and requires either a lot of GE or unlocking over months of play. The 5 and 3 carriers which are not $300 are also classified as the same type which means you have a huge spawn penalty to take out the 2nd plane. Basically, yes, its also a problem, but being as cancerous costs hundreds of dollars or being part of the content creator program. Then, US has to actually do well enough to spawn in planes which can be hard to do at higher tiers.
There are two problems to argue: 1. The two planes you mentioned arguably perform worse than G91. Sure they can carry more payload, but their acceleration, turn rate and climb rate are worse than G91, making them easier to be shot down by AA and by the G91 itself if they got into a dog fight. 2. the Missile issue - Bullpups get you kill easier thanks to the huge explosive payload, but Nord missile is twice faster than Bullpups, meaning you as A-4E/A-4B need to spend twice the time staying on target to guide the missile, which could exposed you to AA firing. G91 also has this problem, but since it only need half the time the U.S planes need to stay on target, the G91 has more survival chance as it can get out of harm's way faster.
They gave the r/4 all of the Nords. Holly crap. Nice. You should consider playing EFT. your voice i feel would match the game well. Not ur style. But I think you'd rock it.
@@Cyan37 yeah for a guy who doesnt have much experience with jets (my only jet is the squadron me 262) its really easy to dodge enemy jets and AA and get the nords to their targets.
@@SanityDot That's what I thought and that's fine! However, I hope that Gaijin adds separate BRs for Ground RB and Air RB. I'm currently playing at 10.0 and they don't have any problems there either so I don't see why they shouldn't get a higher BR. They'd get countered by some more capable SPAAs which should help balance them a bit at least.
These planes are why the Russians always lose 8.7 matches. All it takes is just one point capped or a single kill and a player gets 4 kills almost guaranteed. Until recently, the Russians haven't had an AA that could hit this thing from any kind of range, as the Shilka is only useful inside of 1.5k for the most part. Now with the ZSU-37-2, we might have a bit more of a chance, but since the enemy can still maneuver while their missile flies, getting a hit is difficult, and the soviets have no plane that is this effective at ground striking. My advice to players frustrated with G/91s would be either to quit the BR until a fix is implemented and enjoy the lower tier matches, or train hard in your own planes and AA to counter G/91s. They are not the best air superiority fighters, and can be killed quite easily by an experienced pilot, so maybe take advantage of the spam of inexperienced G/91 players to farm some air kills. That's what I'm trying to do.
Even being an experienced pilot still need a time frame to kill a G91, and during that time frame, it can kill 1-2 of your allies. Now, if that G91 hit a critical ally in a critical spot, it means the win and lost of the game.
Something i have seen a lot playing mostly as that G.91 cancer is that everytime i spawn there are 2 or 3 G91s more behind me, that mostly comes from the fact that it's pretty easy to spawn with NORDS after a few kills and some assists, what i think that could help high tier a lot would be incresing a lot the spawn points for ANY plane when they spawn with AGMs, something like 700-800 per plane, that way spawning with AGMs would be something you should think twice, as dying too soon without a few kills could mean you would be pretty much out of the game, that would also reduce any AGM plane spam as it would take more time and effort to get those spawn points for the AGM plane, i don't know what you think about it
The current Winter event is no help either, as those in GRB are trying to fulfill their air task by using the G91. I know this because I'm doing it currently.
@@JustinPlaysTV The same as me before i got the J28 just today, it is pretty easy to spawn in the G.91 and get the 4 kills per match, 20 kills and maybe 10 assists, but everyone was already expecting this as everytime this events happen everyone tries their best with their Golden lineups to finish every task in the right time
Its better than nords by far. Its easier to control than nords cos they are little slower. And their kill radius is so much bigger. With nords, engines some armors eat the entire thing while its not the case with bulpups
@@killthemall55 Yes but because it's slower you have to stay on target for twice as much and that may cause you death but yes, I do prefer the Bullpup but I also know people who prefer the Nord
@@prizrak-br3332 Yeah, staying on target is a huge problem. Considering you normally have seconds to get on target if enemy SPAA is up, guiding it in for 8 or something is a lot of time to be in their sights.
@@killthemall55 Nord speed is twice faster than Bullpups, so you spend less time staying on target. This is critical when you are flying in a zone with AA presence. I flew an A-4B and rarely can I use all my Bullpups without being spotted by one AA, G91 with Nords give me way more time to get out after firing. Guiding missile can be compensated by practicing, but missile speed can't be changed, so that's why G91 is deadlier than other U.S CAS planes.
Yer i was very tired of G91...so i changed to German tree and got the G91 on sale even i can't take it out in ground RB yet... Only @ 6.3 ... Can't beat em join em 😄😄😄
@@Cyan37 nope.. i am not the problem the 🐌 is since they don't wanna do something about it... I just simply change side so I don't get G91'ed all the time we'll let's see when ppl gonna bitch about the bullpop or what's it called ...and if you have a problem with it just go play cod or csgo
@@kristianwiborg6801 How are cod or csgo (both games I got no interest in) in any way similar to wt other than that it's all about war? You played into Gaijin's business strategy so they will continue doing things that way which means you're absolutely part of the problem. They create the problem and sell you the solution, oldest business strategy in the book.
It's a really nice plane, but I feel like it's a bit of a problem. I mean that some german players will go after one death in the sky but not keep air superiority. Luckily there are who do. In other perspective, it's the only one modern aircraft in that br, I really don't like the idea of using the MEs and I feel abused that gaijin added 4 nords on the premium
Very much agree, more high-mid tier moderns aircrafts should be added for Germany, Japan, and other minority nations instead of just US. Like Phantoms, Tornadoes, and such.
Allied mains are often blind and self centered hypocrites. Like a spoiled toddler with the most and best toys while throwing tantrums because the kid next to him have a toy.
@@9595Christopher Its infuriating. The G91 is awful when i'm playing RUS/GBR/USA but those nations are equally as awful when i'm playing GER. so hypocritical.
@@Hovis_Enjoyer exactly yeah, I play all nations(except china). The big 3 have the tools to obliterate each other from the skies, more so for US yet they're the ones being cry babies
@@thebones6144 That says absolutely nothing. The missiles on the yak-38 have 3 or 4 times the explosive mass that the Nords got yet they perform about the same, if not worse. Nords desperately need a nerf. G.91s destroy ground RB gameplay. There are SO many people who say the same thing, MIGHT be some truth to it...
as a dude grinding soviet line with obj 279 and t62 m1, this just brought back so much pain into me... do u know the filling when u use rp, sl boosters and get spawn capmed by 3 different g91s and dying over and over again??? 8.7 is pain u never get down tier but always 9.0 and 9.7(cause so many turms player u just get into 9.7), and so many german 9.0 players.
That doesn't solve anything, just makes things worse. It's the reason me and my squadmates are the only ones left in the team after 6 minutes into the match. And we win matches fairly often so if there were less 1-spawners, we'd have higher chances of winning. Currently we hate 1-spawners more than G.91 players and that should tell you something. Many times we don't see the point in wasting vehicles for our team if they don't even care in the first place but we still want to have fun so we keep going. Which sometimes leads to some really cool experiences.
@@Cyan37 Sorry bud but unless you and your squadron mates want to pay my repair costs I'll just have to decide for myself how I want to risk my own time & SL.
@@Cyan37 Lol no I have premium and I'm usually playing mostly top tier in everything except France and China. But I have been grinding Britain recently and I've just started spading the Stormer. Why do Gaijin hate the UK so much?
I find it funny how ppl call it so op when it is not. Just because its german. Germany has finally something to fight back from the air and ppl scream op. The US have multiple of these planes with more rockets that are better (i think not sure). Stop calling it op its not at all.
thats so fucking fucked up, as a g91 r3 player, this thing should be 9.0> and 10k repair minimum and another thing, coooool the premium one gets aim9b and aa nords, and the line one fuck off
idk this is the kinda stuff that makes me want to quit the game only playing to grind out the Class 3 P afterwards I'm probably done with WT for good, also a bit hard watching a creator i kinda respected basically just abuse broken vehicles. def a loss of viewer from me but goodluck with ur stuff.
Gaijin really needs to nerf the splash kills on these things. So ridiculous being killed by splash damage in an MBT by these things. Makevthemnskill based, actually have to hit target to kill them.
This is the reason why I stopped playing Russians 8.3/9.7 the spam of rads and G.91's is horrible, even worse when you consider the ATGM helis, it's pure cancer and not worth playing
![G.91 R/4 Full Review - The Germans AND Italians Can Use This BEAST [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KTaPo-TEk2I/mqdefault.jpg)
It would've been even more funny if Justin was sponsored by Nord VPN while making this Nord video.
I recently refused a sponsorship from Surfshark so, would that count?
xP
@@JustinPlaysTV yeah
@@JustinPlaysTV question, why would you refuse a sponsorship?
@@daddyfoosa7712 If I won't personally use whatever is offered, I won't accept.
Why would I want to advertise a product I myself wouldn't use at any point?
@@JustinPlaysTV Makes sense
These are what convinces me that aircraft should have two separate BR's. 1 for Air RB and 1 for Ground RB.
agreed these things should be 10.0 in ground rb
They should not, but people are overreacting, almost every nation has guided missles around this br, americans have even more of them.
@@southweststrangla9591 yeah that’s why you see multiple videos by content creators saying “This is ridiculous”. I’m not saying only G/91’s, I’m saying all bullpup jets should have a higher br in Ground RB.
@@doktork3406 Only way of changing it would be giving premium with bulpups to Americans too, even though they sort of did that with FJ and A4E. It's mainly playerbase fault as well as content creators which shows G91 more often than American counterparts, you can abuse American planes way more than German ones, you can have 13 agms compared to german 8.
@@southweststrangla9591 nevertheless guided missiles have no place at a br where they barely face potent aa threats
Short answer: CAS is cancerous asf
They literally ruins the fun in ground battles even if you are using an high tier SPAA and i literally wanted to punch the guy who revenged bomb me
@@SuperTrb0 you probably have not faced Tiger UHT at top tier. That shit is cancerous.
Give everyone fire and forget missiles and see how that shit works out for Germany.
@@Zosterias First they have to grind this heli... and this is suffering.
@@SuperTrb0 so the ADATS (US/UK) dose not exist, Germanys top SPAA is not just a huge cardboard box with a firecracker one top of it and that Franc uses the same system is also a fact of fiction....
okay....... i think that's enough WT community crying for me to day
@@SuperTrb0
>literally "no u" response
>continues to cry about nods
>makes unsubstantiated calamines about what i use
major BRUH moment detected
Yes that's ridiculous, that's one of the reasons some BR are absurd. I think switching it to BR9.7 is a minimum
The main reason of those things performing so well (at least it appears to do so) its because it is being spammed, also the brits and the us have something similar to it the scimitar (which as a plane performs even better than the G.91) and the Fj-4b (which has better armaments), but for some reason I only see a few Fjs during events like this. So it’s not a thing with the plane it self, but everyone is using the G.91 instead of other still very valuable choices
But but but Germany suffers?!?!?!?
tfw America literally gets like four jets that can carry 5 missiles similar to nords......
@@william9837. better than nords, the bullpups have more explosive
@@vale.44peru because the tech tree g91r3 is 99k rp to get and 390k to buy or just get one of the premium ones, the scimitar and FJ are 390k rp and 990k SL to buy, plus their modifications are also more expensive, so you have 2 planes that are 4 times as expensive and the FJ can only carry mighty mouse, the a4b is also 4 times more expensive than the g91r3, and the squadron a4e also gets spammed but it has less time in the game, and even then the only g91 with decent cas ordinance in italy is the premium one cuz all the tech tree ones at best can carry dumb bombs
This is the reason I rage quit warthunder twice a day absolutely cancerous
from few days , war thunder is full of camper / spawnkiller and cancer people . horrible to play
@@lecszynskialex4698 Camping is not always bad only if done by to many in a bad Spot. Camping on a point is far better than driving without a brain forward into the enemy.
@@dragonlord3504 except the Germens tank speed means they already camping in great spots while you just trying to leave spawn
@@AbyRemy Yeah germany high tier is far to powerful right now.
9.0 and above u can only play the germans or u can play something else if u want to lose lmao.
Im a german main and the Leo 2a6 is cool but this thing is so stupidly strong. It doesnt even have a real opponent to counter it.
The t72b3 and t90a are a joke against this machine.
Well, i dont get mad at g91 r3 players bcz they grinded for it and they deserve to have fun. But i have no respect for usa players who cry about it while they have 2 a4s, and the fj4. U can literally get ur free a4e early from day1, with air to air missiles
Planes like this just make me wish for a only ground game mode
Same.
Nah, just shilka or BMP-2M, problem solved, at least for me, i kill them all the tjme
“Gaijin have been really busy” said no one ever
Busy making premiums xP
@@JustinPlaysTV and ruining BR brackets :c
experience? kill a rad then i get norded rinse and repeat
This plane on its own makes me want a ground only mode.
Yes
G91/r3 has 2x30mm DEFAs, not 20mm. Otherwise very enjoyable vid as always
Oof, you're right.
It would be nice if they added some special explosions to the tanks where it literally blows up into pieces, especially for light vehicles, but other tanks could blow up in different ways aswell, not only turret poping out....
Justin: "having fun"
Everyone in the enemy team: "angry noises"
o7
2014-2018 : Allies CAS Rule the game
2019-2020 : German CAS in G.91 is cancer
Also Ka-50 Ka-52 Mi-28 with S24 and AGM 10 KM
I stil remember that rocket will always one hit you and it's just need to be close ........
It fills me with rage when allied complain about german CAS, common you guys enjoyed your jout for P47, let us enjoy a little of braindead ATGM too!
Oh, the humanity... Seriously, can you blame those guys for bailing after 1st death? second spawn, you are dead in 5 seconds from missiles raining out of the sky.
Ah the cancer in its self now I remember why I didn't play WT in a while
dude flip his tank..and got missiled..wat a day
Best cannon anti air, best ground pounder jet, best wheels tank... :) What a good nation.
justin be like i am gonna die
a feew moments later: nvm got 5 kills
thanks for vid....I've had this plane awhile and had no idea it got 4 now
The lack of Raf in the description is disturbing.
I love it how the SPAA he is up against cant hit him for shit, but as soon as i take my FJ-4B VMF i get instantly sniped by gepards and even kugelbitzes from 3 km out... -_-
I have a theory about this tbh. German players are the most likely to actually grind out their SPAAG line since its arguably the best SPAAG line ingame (it falls off at the top compared to US and russia tho). Because of this german players most likely have the most experienced SPAAG players and as such tend to clear the skies and keep them that way more consistantly than other nations. Thats just my opinion as someone with thousands of games played in SPAAGs tho :p
@@MythicPi i had a thought about this very concept as soon as i posted my comment! makes sence, witch means gaijin needs to add good early spaa to alied nations.
Gepard is too powerfull, the amx 30 dca have the same br but with no stab and fricking 60 sec reload
That may be true, as a german SPAA player i can tell you that since the early tiers you learn to wait with your SPAA for the best shot when the enemy plane it's near you, something i see from allied players at mid-high BR is that most of them don't know how to engage, when i use my G.91 i can just fly at 2.5-3km above the ground and literally wait for any allied SPAA to spray and pray showing me where they are, leaving them defenseless against my nords, the ones that wait for that letal shot usually end up killing me without effort, the only SPAA i have seen being able to take down planes at 2.5km it's the m247 and that comes from it's VT rounds
@@alejandroperfectoge7095 The chinese ZSU-57-2 is even more lethal to planes, but barely anyone plays it or china in general! XD But yea, we still agree that german SPAA players just have more experience with SPAA, hence knowing when to engage.
Can you remake this video after the nords were nerfed?
We survived the Ka-50 we're gonna survive the G.91.
Pew pew Pattons, unite!
u speek like g 91 is the biggest problem in terms of aircraft lol
Omg, just great..! Pls Justin, it's shame for me to ask, but pls tell me how do you control the nords. I haven't found yet.. plssss...!
Ahh Justin I see you have suffered from the chancla as well.
Nords & Bullpups should really be uptiered to face SAM's, your video clearly shows this, imagine playing on the receiving end of this. I got no issues getting attacked by air to ground missiles with missiles to counter them. The problem is that even a sgt. York has difficulty because of the range of engagement of the bullpups/nords and that the 'instructor' aims the plane for you to wherever you point your mouse, on the contrary: the spaag has to aim themselves and at a high speed evasive target. - balance is simple - all bullpup loadouts have to go up in BR to face the sams, at least in RB mode that has the instructor aiming the launch for you - in sim not so easy and maybe it can stay status quo in sim, but in rb its ridiculous. Try doing what you did with an adats or tunguska around and it would be over quick, sams will force you to be cautious, not this careless shooting fish in a barrel scene that happens every match with the G91's. Gaijin has been here before, the Spitfires/Fw190's with rockets of old effects did the same (actually not even as bad). There's just no excuse for gaijin to do this, its not like they don't know its happening.
This maybe a good argument for the loadout dependent BR rating proposed.
Even SAM aren't that reliable at killing these planes. I have flew the G91 at 10.7, and I can literally hear the SAM missile coming at me and they are surprisingly easy to dodge for something made to kill planes, so I just have to dodge and be on my business again. The thing is, I'm not the only one in the game - there are many more around, and with how easy to delete a tank with Nord regardless of BR, you can see 3-4 G91s coming due to low cost spawn, and they are more than enough to kill anything on the ground.
i just got in the game with justine last 10mins ago And he shoot down a Heli with his M1a2 while im fixing my tank beside him lol
i like how direct hits do nothing but splashing destroys worlds.
usualy soviet's upper plate and turret is tuff if u see crit shots, u can see the missile hitting the front of turrets, but splash in the other hand go to very weakspots of tanks, floor and sides
Making the best lineup at its BR even better and easier to use as well as making anyone with a some money can easily get a decent lineup in just the L44 and the G.91/R4.
Nice video though man!
C2A1 for even less money but yea, what you described is what more than half of the germany-playerbase is. It's at a point where I, as a German, would be ashamed to play my own nation at this BR.
Love it! I absolutely adore my Ginas
Oh, would you look at that. Didn't expect to find you here
@@Serkay64 I love my G91 R3 very much and watch Justin. Ofc I'll be here xD
cancer hasn't tasted this good since smoking in middle school
This ladies and gentlemen's, is the state of 8.0 or higher.
You put all the money in the current META nation and have fun, or you just get steamrolled.
the reason they added 4 nords to the R/4 was to counter the A-4E with its 5 bullpups
Oh, no a premium with 4 nord
The new WarThunder "Fun Police"
It doesn't help that the G.91/R3 is easily obtainable compared to other similar aircraft with AGMs. It sits at 99k RP whereas others are 390k RP with other high RP cost planes blocking the way. The plane was supposed to have its RP cost changed in the past economy updates but it got pulled out since many of the Axis players didn't like that change haha
I don't know why in the uptier like mbt, I can't feel the fun of playing, but in the downtier like WW2 tank it's more fun to play
Did you misunderstood uptier and downtier for high-tier and low-tier representatively or am I missing your point??
@@rrrriajiii maybe its a new player
@@chonk4197 nah I don't think new player could play a high tier/'uptier' battle just like what he said.
@@rrrriajiii yeah i'm soory my English lesson very bad :,-)
@@chonk4197 I've been playing this game for 4 years, the problem is my English still bad
Justin is a real man, he never uses smoke. That's for babies 😎
This plane needs to stay in 2020
the funny thing is that most of the players completely ignore that at that same br at 8.7 the US has two planes that can carry 5 Bullpups and one that can carry 3, which all of them are spammed too but no "Germany op plz nerf"
The difference is that one of the ones that can carry 5 is on the marketplace for like 300$. Then the other at equal tier of 8.7 has only 3, not 4, and is a less good airframe. Then the one at 9.0 which also has 5 is at a higher BR and requires either a lot of GE or unlocking over months of play. The 5 and 3 carriers which are not $300 are also classified as the same type which means you have a huge spawn penalty to take out the 2nd plane. Basically, yes, its also a problem, but being as cancerous costs hundreds of dollars or being part of the content creator program. Then, US has to actually do well enough to spawn in planes which can be hard to do at higher tiers.
There are two problems to argue:
1. The two planes you mentioned arguably perform worse than G91. Sure they can carry more payload, but their acceleration, turn rate and climb rate are worse than G91, making them easier to be shot down by AA and by the G91 itself if they got into a dog fight.
2. the Missile issue - Bullpups get you kill easier thanks to the huge explosive payload, but Nord missile is twice faster than Bullpups, meaning you as A-4E/A-4B need to spend twice the time staying on target to guide the missile, which could exposed you to AA firing. G91 also has this problem, but since it only need half the time the U.S planes need to stay on target, the G91 has more survival chance as it can get out of harm's way faster.
I don’t really like Air RB too much so I grinder out a majority of the German tree only ground pounding with the R/4 I love that plane
This is the reason I now stay at 6.7 and below for all nations
The Nord spam is atrocious
They gave the r/4 all of the Nords. Holly crap. Nice. You should consider playing EFT. your voice i feel would match the game well. Not ur style. But I think you'd rock it.
The G.91's and CAS AGM's need to be nerfed. This is so stupid why Gaijin doesn't nerf them
And they just gave the premium G91 4 NORDS instead of 2.. Literally buffing something thats already OP
ive never had so much fun until i got the G91 😂🙏
Yea, because this thing is easy mode. Nothing against you but you should be able to tell yourself how easy it is to just stack up kills with it.
@@Cyan37 yeah for a guy who doesnt have much experience with jets (my only jet is the squadron me 262) its really easy to dodge enemy jets and AA and get the nords to their targets.
@@SanityDot That's what I thought and that's fine! However, I hope that Gaijin adds separate BRs for Ground RB and Air RB.
I'm currently playing at 10.0 and they don't have any problems there either so I don't see why they shouldn't get a higher BR. They'd get countered by some more capable SPAAs which should help balance them a bit at least.
You can evade AA fire all you want, but the moment you hear an angry latina mother with her chancla, you're fucked XD
The thing that flying missle is getting redirected after getting killed, is pure trash balace.
Asu-57 in top tier attempt #5
The Rad only good for its speed and Dm33, imagine it has thermal like the striker with dm 63 and Laser range finder
Striker with DM63? Wtf? It has the M900
The only tank with DM63 is the TAM2C
I meant we imagine the Rad had Dm63 and thermal the same as striker which is gen 2, that thing is gonna wreck havoc
Hey Justin, with the nords, I’m having a bit of trouble controlling them, do you recommend like any specific settings for the nords?
He has a video about that on his channel.
@@killthemall55 link?
@@mattc4825 Here ya go fellow kameraden o7 ruclips.net/video/_vESpkl0Tj8/видео.html
4:42 this is why the g91 r/3 will always be the superior, because DEFA 30mm would've destroyed the guy in seconds
These planes are why the Russians always lose 8.7 matches. All it takes is just one point capped or a single kill and a player gets 4 kills almost guaranteed. Until recently, the Russians haven't had an AA that could hit this thing from any kind of range, as the Shilka is only useful inside of 1.5k for the most part. Now with the ZSU-37-2, we might have a bit more of a chance, but since the enemy can still maneuver while their missile flies, getting a hit is difficult, and the soviets have no plane that is this effective at ground striking.
My advice to players frustrated with G/91s would be either to quit the BR until a fix is implemented and enjoy the lower tier matches, or train hard in your own planes and AA to counter G/91s. They are not the best air superiority fighters, and can be killed quite easily by an experienced pilot, so maybe take advantage of the spam of inexperienced G/91 players to farm some air kills. That's what I'm trying to do.
Even being an experienced pilot still need a time frame to kill a G91, and during that time frame, it can kill 1-2 of your allies. Now, if that G91 hit a critical ally in a critical spot, it means the win and lost of the game.
Any plane with long range ATGMs should have its BR increased to 9.7 to match it with missile AA ground vehicles. Only for ground RB though
Something i have seen a lot playing mostly as that G.91 cancer is that everytime i spawn there are 2 or 3 G91s more behind me, that mostly comes from the fact that it's pretty easy to spawn with NORDS after a few kills and some assists, what i think that could help high tier a lot would be incresing a lot the spawn points for ANY plane when they spawn with AGMs, something like 700-800 per plane, that way spawning with AGMs would be something you should think twice, as dying too soon without a few kills could mean you would be pretty much out of the game, that would also reduce any AGM plane spam as it would take more time and effort to get those spawn points for the AGM plane, i don't know what you think about it
The current Winter event is no help either, as those in GRB are trying to fulfill their air task by using the G91.
I know this because I'm doing it currently.
@@JustinPlaysTV The same as me before i got the J28 just today, it is pretty easy to spawn in the G.91 and get the 4 kills per match, 20 kills and maybe 10 assists, but everyone was already expecting this as everytime this events happen everyone tries their best with their Golden lineups to finish every task in the right time
You're A Monster With G. 91/R.4
Not hard to do really.
The Chancla sound 😂😂
some day they will increase the points to get the NORDs as payload
they will increase more for bullpups, so a4, fj 4b, scimitar and buccanner will be even more expensive.
This thing is amazing in air rb too
If that is already cancerous imagine when everyone get their hands on the A-4E, that thing can carry 5 AGM-12 which I think is better than the Nord
Its better than nords by far. Its easier to control than nords cos they are little slower. And their kill radius is so much bigger. With nords, engines some armors eat the entire thing while its not the case with bulpups
@@killthemall55 Yes but because it's slower you have to stay on target for twice as much and that may cause you death but yes, I do prefer the Bullpup but I also know people who prefer the Nord
@@prizrak-br3332 Yeah, staying on target is a huge problem. Considering you normally have seconds to get on target if enemy SPAA is up, guiding it in for 8 or something is a lot of time to be in their sights.
@@killthemall55 Nord speed is twice faster than Bullpups, so you spend less time staying on target. This is critical when you are flying in a zone with AA presence. I flew an A-4B and rarely can I use all my Bullpups without being spotted by one AA, G91 with Nords give me way more time to get out after firing. Guiding missile can be compensated by practicing, but missile speed can't be changed, so that's why G91 is deadlier than other U.S CAS planes.
Is that some new kind of armor at 9:59?
well I guess I'm still not coming back to 8.7/9.0...
Love you videos man
Yer i was very tired of G91...so i changed to German tree and got the G91 on sale even i can't take it out in ground RB yet... Only @ 6.3 ... Can't beat em join em 😄😄😄
Congrats, you're part of the problem now.
@@Cyan37 nope.. i am not the problem the 🐌 is since they don't wanna do something about it... I just simply change side so I don't get G91'ed all the time we'll let's see when ppl gonna bitch about the bullpop or what's it called ...and if you have a problem with it just go play cod or csgo
@@kristianwiborg6801 How are cod or csgo (both games I got no interest in) in any way similar to wt other than that it's all about war?
You played into Gaijin's business strategy so they will continue doing things that way which means you're absolutely part of the problem. They create the problem and sell you the solution, oldest business strategy in the book.
Is those nord missile fire and forget? Do they follow ground targets?
I think they are guided and you can move em
It's a really nice plane, but I feel like it's a bit of a problem. I mean that some german players will go after one death in the sky but not keep air superiority. Luckily there are who do. In other perspective, it's the only one modern aircraft in that br, I really don't like the idea of using the MEs and I feel abused that gaijin added 4 nords on the premium
Cant even play 8.7 - 10.0BR cos wehraboos get salty when you kill them, and spam 4 nords at you and now they can 8.
It's true. It's bad for both enemies and teammates this behaviour
Very much agree, more high-mid tier moderns aircrafts should be added for Germany, Japan, and other minority nations instead of just US. Like Phantoms, Tornadoes, and such.
How the hell did you survive then take out multiples lol I take a stroll anywhere and I end up dead
Sure its bad, but A4B A4E Scimitar FJ...
Allied mains are often blind and self centered hypocrites.
Like a spoiled toddler with the most and best toys while throwing tantrums because the kid next to him have a toy.
@@9595Christopher Its infuriating. The G91 is awful when i'm playing RUS/GBR/USA but those nations are equally as awful when i'm playing GER. so hypocritical.
@@Hovis_Enjoyer exactly yeah, I play all nations(except china). The big 3 have the tools to obliterate each other from the skies, more so for US yet they're the ones being cry babies
raf is a bit too quiet at times, pretty difficult to understand him :/
People who quit after one death are the WORST.
Germany Is so balanced at this BR
So it's only OP when Germany has good CAS/Bullpups? K got it.
Me in M247 : i see 7 free air kills
What were gaijin thinking putting 4 nords on r4, now playing top tier aren't even fun anymore
have you met the A4E and FJ4B combos on the american side yet? They have bigger explosives and 5 rockets instead of 4
@@thebones6144 That says absolutely nothing. The missiles on the yak-38 have 3 or 4 times the explosive mass that the Nords got yet they perform about the same, if not worse. Nords desperately need a nerf. G.91s destroy ground RB gameplay. There are SO many people who say the same thing, MIGHT be some truth to it...
@@thebones6144 how many players do have FJ4B? Yee few
My beat purchase all year hahaha
as a dude grinding soviet line with obj 279 and t62 m1, this just brought back so much pain into me...
do u know the filling when u use rp, sl boosters and get spawn capmed by 3 different g91s and dying over and over again???
8.7 is pain u never get down tier but always 9.0 and 9.7(cause so many turms player u just get into 9.7), and so many german 9.0 players.
I see Nords, I have to spawn again 😐
Did he just say 20mm on R/3?
Hmmm I feel like I've seen this gameplay before
What battle rating is the German class 3(p)
Warthunder has been quite buggy, The texture thing happened to me aswell
The g91 is sooo fucking anoying. Probably the most i get killed by any vehicle. The rad is anoying aswell
People bitch about G.91 nords, but ignore the absolute shitfest that is the spam of bullpups.
Revenge Thunder:Wehraboo version
U should show the post game stats to see how much lions u make
*to show how broken these vehicles are at their BR.
hol up
raf has a voice!?
germany suffers
Don't have to deal with G.91's for long if you leave after one death. Just sayin.
That doesn't solve anything, just makes things worse. It's the reason me and my squadmates are the only ones left in the team after 6 minutes into the match.
And we win matches fairly often so if there were less 1-spawners, we'd have higher chances of winning.
Currently we hate 1-spawners more than G.91 players and that should tell you something.
Many times we don't see the point in wasting vehicles for our team if they don't even care in the first place but we still want to have fun so we keep going. Which sometimes leads to some really cool experiences.
@@Cyan37 Sorry bud but unless you and your squadron mates want to pay my repair costs I'll just have to decide for myself how I want to risk my own time & SL.
@@Orphican Let me guess, you're playing Britain without premium?
@@Cyan37 Lol no I have premium and I'm usually playing mostly top tier in everything except France and China. But I have been grinding Britain recently and I've just started spading the Stormer. Why do Gaijin hate the UK so much?
@@Orphican Nobody knows the answer to that question.
Wait till everyone gets the a4e early so g91 players can feel the sensation of spawning and dieing less than 10 seconds.
and soviet suffers
AWWWW YEAAAA GINA
I find it funny how ppl call it so op when it is not. Just because its german. Germany has finally something to fight back from the air and ppl scream op. The US have multiple of these planes with more rockets that are better (i think not sure). Stop calling it op its not at all.
This is basically Gaijin rewarding the wheraboos for paying
9.3 BR for Leo L44 and RadKw90 is waving 🙂🙂
Everyone quits after 1 death because of stupid ass g91s that should be nerfed to hell
thats so fucking fucked up, as a g91 r3 player, this thing should be 9.0> and 10k repair minimum
and another thing, coooool the premium one gets aim9b and aa nords, and the line one fuck off
yeah, same with scimitar and buccanner. A4 and fj 4b should be even more
Well i play 8.7 to get off Harriers and now that New cancer....dude....fml
G.91 cancer has been in the game for 2 years...
@@Cyan37 but now any noob can buy and do shits
@@oldcrowbr9334 Yup.
Why not just dumb fire the nords they arent that hard to do and you dont have to guide it in and spend that extra few secs looking for another target
@@raf_tml the nords in my experience dont really have a scatter i always get close and let'ter rip but i get where ya comin from
idk this is the kinda stuff that makes me want to quit the game only playing to grind out the Class 3 P afterwards I'm probably done with WT for good, also a bit hard watching a creator i kinda respected basically just abuse broken vehicles. def a loss of viewer from me but goodluck with ur stuff.
Gaijin really needs to nerf the splash kills on these things. So ridiculous being killed by splash damage in an MBT by these things. Makevthemnskill based, actually have to hit target to kill them.
This is the reason why I stopped playing Russians 8.3/9.7 the spam of rads and G.91's is horrible, even worse when you consider the ATGM helis, it's pure cancer and not worth playing
Apparently Germany suffers