I'm a new player and its actually sad how on youtube you can follow a path of people telling others to not bother with the story and just go play as if its bad and meaningless! Just go explore, find, and build,I never realised this game had great lore, stories, mysteries, and so forth!!!
Omg from day one this game has been all about the lore so rich and intriguing whoever advised you to ignore the lore did you a disservice making you miss out on something that is intrinsic to the game.
7:35 In psychology, to self actualize means to fully realize and develop your sense of self, to harmonize and integrate both the conscious and unconscious mind. Perhaps by this they mean every interceptor wishes to be self aware, to have a fully realized sense of self, to be individual rather than serve the hive for eternity.
That’s basically what the Autophage wants, to separate themselves from the Korvax Convergence and the Atlas to become true individuals. Thank god echoes releases because it shines a more clearer light upon all of the mysteries presented here.
What ever happens, I'm really hoping overhauls regarding oceans and space stations eventually lead up to us being able to somehow enter the world of glass, maybe finding/making corrupted portals and sort of induce what happened to artemis to allow us to cross the boundary into the world of glass. Regarding a space station update, seems likely as new exterior space station designs were datamined relatively recently. Also it seems that atlantadeum is the result of the abyss corrupting pugneum in sentinels, as when you refine atlantadeum into pugneum the operation is called: Restoring harmony
I personally think it's reverse, the world of glass is fracturing and so everything that once was, lore wise, will be again. It's a good excuse to explain what expansions are from a lore perspective. Of course this is just fun theory.👍
When you revealed the camp is made out of the space station core, my eyes actually widened. You really go into so much depth compared to any other NMS creator! 😄 What I'm really interested in is seeing how the final build of NMS will look like.. how the story will evolve to make sense from start to finish in a playthrough instead of it being a "you had to play it while it was being developed to get the full experience" you know? Btw, I like pronouncing it "Atlan - tiddy - umm" for.. reasons.
I wonder the same thing. I fell off of Destiny 2 when they started sunsetting content, so I hope NMS doesn't do the same. I understand timed content, but removed previously implied permanent content is another matter. And tbh I usually pronounce it that way too. lol It flows a lot easier that way. But for whatever reason I decided to try and pronounce it all proper this time. 🤷♂️ I'll probably flip flop going forward like I do with route and route or pecan and pecan. 😉 Thanks for watching!
Great insights especially the connection with mordite! Mind never made that connection. Excellent video as always Kanaju I cant wait for what all these teases lead to!
"self-actualization" - The process of becoming everything you are capable of becoming...It also means - The FULL realization of one's creative, intellectual, and social potential.
This video is awesome thanks so much kanaju. I’m a huge fan of NMS lore but the abyss hasn’t grabbed me as much as the main story did, until this most recent update! Now i’m hyped to see where this goes
I have played this game for 1000s of hours and yet your videos often show that my knowledge is mere surface and reflection. Thank you! Always informative and insightful, and quality to the centre. Grah! Kzzt.
I have been waiting for this video since the update came out. I knew I could count on you to put it all together for me, ha ha. I know you have been trying to grow your channel for a while now. Am I missing the patreon link?
WOW! Thank you so much for your continued support. I'm glad you liked the video. It's true, I've been working hard to grow the channel for a while now. I've been workshopping some Patreon ideas, but I don't want to launch it until I know I can commit the time needed to deliver on it. I am hoping to reach that point in the next few months. What sort of perks would you like to see in such a case? I am thinking of Patreon-only posts, Discord access, and perhaps answering Patreon questions in videos. Plus credits at the end of videos, of course. Speaking of which, I would love to thank you for your support in my next video if that's alright with you. I appreciate everything!
@Kanaju To be honest, I would prefer not to be mentioned. I really try hard to stay of the message boards. I don't comment often on utube. In your case, it's the only way to show my appreciation for your hard work and content creation. I know it takes time and effort. I can see you do it out of passion for the game. As far as perks go, I leave it in your capable hands. Early access is nice. I don't use discourse. I have fun when you go down the "lore" rabbit hole or strangest things videos. I personally like the fact that your generally into the story behind the game. There are plenty of channels that have game play and I don't watch them. I am probably not your average subscriber so I don't know if you should take much stock in my advice to grow your channel. I'll end with, thank you again for your hard work and passion. I truly enjoy your insight on one of the games I enjoy playing. If you ever find a galaxy discovered by Topshelfcab, just know I was there, ha ha.
@@mtmountainflyer9734 I can respect that. Thanks again for your continued support. And thank you for your feedback on Patreon perks and content! To be honest, I don't know if I have an average subscriber, as everyone seems to see something different in NMS, but I'm glad you enjoy my denser videos. I'll keep an eye out for your discoveries while I explore. 👨🚀 Thanks again!
Great video, as always! I just wanted to point out that "autophagia" means consuming one's own body parts, so possibly another layer of meaning to the disjointed pieces left behind.
Considering what dissonant planets have on them and the sentient crystals phage in this instance could mean a type of infectious disease. Autophage in this instance could also mean infected machines. They’re broken, shattered and these planets are filled with infected, blighted machinery
I hope the autophages do become a new race in the form of new enemy and minor faction. I find it intersting that LayLaps says nothing when your on corrupted planet. If they do become a future race i hope they give us the option to make our character one. Maybe we could get a quest to repair an autophage after Laylaps notices a one in a wreck. Maybe they could become a point of intrest in our settlement after repairing it. Like a merchant with good upgrades or they could sell new tech & items. But we will have to see what Hello Games has in store for us with their future updates.
If you'd have told me in 2016 that this game would have deep lore and new mechanics even into 2023, I'd have called you insane. It's just amazing that Hello Games stuck with it this long.
also, it would be fun in a possible water update if they added a planet type with much, *much* deeper oceans that required a submarine to traverse. Maybe we could get a larger variant of submarine, as well, or maybe even a full-on boat. would love to explore an ocean so deep that, as you descend into the depths, it gradually becomes darker and darker until its a pitch black that only the lights on a submarine can illuminate. it would be fun to go full subnautica on the ocean planets -- leviathans, horrors, and all.
So, apologies if this has been covered and I missed it, but there was a message I saw from one of the sentinel scraps that went as follows: 2, 6, 12, 60, 120, 360, 2520, 5040, 55440, 720720, 1441440, 4324320, 21621600, 367567200. Similar ‘puzzle’ to some of the building terminals you encounter in the game. 6 / 2 = 3. 12 / 6 = 2. Etc. If you continue dividing each number by the previous number, you get a list of 13 numbers: 3, 2, 5, 2, 3, 7, 2, 11, 13, 2, 3, 5, 17 The first 12 have to be glyph numbers to a portal coordinate. The last, 17, matches another message from a sentinel scrap pile: . I’m currently in Rarismutal galaxy, so portalled to those coordinates. Nothing. Went back to Euclid and portalled to those coords. Someone had been there already, but it was an empty system. I don’t know what I expected but why provide a very specific set of portal coords which don’t lead to anything. Maybe in the 17th galaxy? Which is Hitonskyer, just realized that. Rarismutal is 18….ok I’m going back to Hitonskyer later and portalling to those coords. Doubt I’ll find anything but has anybody else been chasing these portal coordinates? Edit: Just realized the portal glyph numbers are all prime numbers too. I saw another message which gave the Euclid-Mullin sequence which has to do with primes. There’s gotta be something to this.
Superb analysis! I myself started cataloguing the binary sequences strewn across the camps but was only halfway through. Thank you for saving me what could easily be a couple of days of hunting!
I've been trying to piece the puzzle together since the interceptor update went live. So far, based on what I've pieced together, the AIs want to be free, to be released from all hiveminds or masters. It seems the robot like bodies are original Aerons that seem to want a reconstruction of their original civilization but with freedom. There also appears to be an ongoing conflict between different sentinel groups, referring to the seventeenth as the enemy, corrupting them. The original Aerons want to save them. When you add the death of the Atlas to this and the history of the Korvax gek war, it's plausible that the Aeron race was created by the Korvax and are survivors of that war, they seem to be more advanced than the sentinels we currently see and even those small parts or language indicate they are self aware. Either that or the 17th had a part in destroying korvax Prime, and they were created by the Atlas to protect the korvax and the simulation against the spreading corruption, and now the Atlas is no more the corruption is spreading unchecked. Also, if the sentinels can be corrupted, so can the stations, theoretically. This is all just speculation, of course. I'm going to keep digging.
It's no surprise that Hello Games will eventually have one final update for NMS... And when it's done, Sean and the team will move onto something else.
@@DynoSkrimisher Apparently half the team is split between working on NMS and their new ambitious secret game. And the half that's working on NMS is also divided into teams working on different updates and just release the ones that are finished first, while still having a roadmap they all follow.
The atlas is already gone. We are living in its final 16 seconds after its shutdown was started. Each new galaxy moving forward restarts the simulation in a further compressed state of time, which effectively buys time for Atlas to continue simulating existence. Its entirely possible the 16 seconds will last eons of simulated time, minutes, or even seconds. But Atlas is basically dead. It's why the sentinels were acting out and why Atlas has been very quiet.
Watching this video and reading through the dialogue that you present in the first part, when it got to 14 and 15, I interpreted it as the Interceptors wanting to break free. Whether this is on a personal basis, sort of like how a Korvax is somewhat of an individual from the Convergence. Or if in the same manner that the Atlas wants to see it's creator again, that want has bled through to it's Interceptors wanting to bond with Travelers. Most, if not all, of the Interceptors have a Greek letter in their name. Here I think it might be a bit more literal, with 'alpha to omega' encompassing the names of each Interceptor I took 'Alpha to Omega' in 15 in conjuncture with 14, as in 'every Interceptor, alpha to omega, wants to self actualize.' That's just my take on this one small part of these new mysteries, thanks for another great video!
Pretty sure the camp map symbol is meant to be the interceptor ship cockpit, looks very similar to the ships that have no wings, at least to me. Pretty sure new race will be the Aerons which were taken by the sentinels into the abyss, the ones we will find will be escapees. Wondering myself where everyone gets the idea of the blackhole destroying Atlas, only reference I have seen is the purple text stating gravitational anomaly detected, which I think could be Atlas being absorbed into the abyss personally and Atlas can only really understand it like he does the simulation. Also I believe the corruption is actually the conversion of data which will allow the current simulation residents to be transferred to another place and perhaps the star made during the Atlas path will allow a new Atlas to be born after said system storage/simulation jump, perhaps this will culminate in a No Man's Sky 2. Appreciate your coverage of lore. Can't wait for more of the future story stuff in this game personally.
The one thing I've noticed the # sequences are from Rebuilt units not Autophages I've been writing them down because of this been on hunt on the first planet I found an interceptor on looking for other differences in them as well.
@@apahtlicasas If you are referring to the discord list no clue haven't seen it I have 11 sequences so far. I figure there should be another same as the 17th for the same total of 12.
Down for anything that makes the universe more lively. I like looking at the lore on terminals and stuff tbh lol. Really want that water update though...
From what I'm gathering, I believe that the void, the echoes of korvax prime, the voices of knowledge, corrupted the sentinels and causes them to turn on their objective. The main objective of the sentinels is to preserve things the way they are, keep things from changing. These corrupted sentinels, though, have machines that do the exact thing they were programmed to stop. The regular sentinel towers have mentioned before concepts of sentinel "life" separating from the atlas somewhat, via the voice of the hive. I believe that there could be a species of more humanoid, sentient sentinels out there. We already know they are capable of forming an independent consciousness when severed from the hive, since The Sentry even has memories of someone it remembers, and gives itself a name, suggesting it has a personality of its own. Maybe these robots were supposed to be a new line of defense that the sentinels got/made, but the very core of them was corrupted by the void, which may also have the voices of the lost korvax prime within it, maybe carrying remnants of what would he lower class citizens of the planet, cast off to the moons, which, with the destruction of the main planet, would have been destroyed as well. Who knows, maybe the void is even a breach in the world of glass.
The part of autophagy that mentions reusing old and damaged cell parts made me wonder if instead of a junkyard the harmonic camps are in some way used to create something new. There are lots of scrap and spare parts laying around, and a multitool cabinet and crashed ship to arm these new beings with...
I think that the autophages could be some other model of korvax shells, maybe a military experiment because of the pugneum (even though the korvax are scientists) and uses sentinel tech, but I’m not the best at nms lore so I’m probably completely wrong. Edit: they could have been shells made by korvax like Nada who’ve disconnected from the convergence with junk on moons of Korvax Prime? The name autophage could be the korvax who left the convergence
Fantastic - again! I feel I must take an exception to one comment you make - to paraphrase - 'It is nice that NMS has finally found their course again.' I personally think they never lost it. Look at your own videos of the Lore and other basic concepts that you have explained. Those don't just come to a story teller out of need at a random time. An example: I lead a authors group that produces 'series' of books. Those series must be given thought to create the entire series. One that I am sure you are familiar with, and one I had no interface with, is 'Harry Potter'. She could not have written those books over time without some planning as to when and where those ideas would be used in the future. In addition, the technology changes with time - could many if the things presented today have been made available 6 years ago. You are in the tech world, as I was since the beginnings of the first IBM computers, and the things we do today we're impossible to do 60 years ago. The have only totally reset the database twice, maybe three times, that has upset people so extremely - that is rather remarkable in retrospect. I think they have written their story quite well, and we are growing with it. Again, look at all the depth you have gotten out of this to explain to us.
The autophage is basically the clean up crew because the corrupt sentinels are well corrupt and the APs (Autophage) are there to clean and destroy the corruption even though it seems they failed
Wait... Pugneum, which is full of nanites and lubricates the joints of (an)droids, seems to also _program_ them as well. Recent episode of Mando: Droids are programed by nanites they get from their lubricant. Did Star Wars just rip off No Man's Sky?
That detail did seem odd in the Mandalorian. I haven't read all of the comics or books or anything, but I'm a pretty big Star Wars fan and I didn't recall that ever being a thing before. It did sound like nanites!
That’s just amazing! Thank you for making this eye opening NMS video , haven’t touched the game since last two updates and man the lore theory expanded. Hopefully we get introduced with a new race slowly inviting or invading/fighting back against them or against....mother
Before interceptor update I had been visiting those large planet type structures of each race and depositing 3 random items into the corresponding safes. Then going up to the data place and triggering it to download any data. Just recently I happened upon one of the Gek race and the data revealed something about an abduction, and that greed had played some part in all of it. That *units* would be of no use or something to that effect. Maybe I am imagining it, but the junk yard moons may play a role in trying to escape an abduction to the abyss. If units are of no use, you can't buy your way out. Alien abduction would add quite the wrinkle to the game. Especially if you lose everything and money err units is of no use. I have a vivid imagination..... just speculation of where it could go given some weird cryptic text messages I have read. The odd portal like structures end with "they are watching you" --- who is they?
To answer your question at ~22:35, I'm pretty sure Void Mother has inhabited the World of Glass ever since she was archived via her destruction by the First Spawn. Everything that is destroyed in the simulation seems to get archived there, after all. As for the autophages, the Pilot Interface device installed on every Interceptor ship mentions that it is installed to "prevent rejection/consumption of the pilot by the ships vestigial cockpit." Vestigial implies the cockpit used to serve a putpose, but doesn't anymore... meaning they used to carry pilots. It's possible these autophages were victims of the ship's process of autophagy, as the ships attempted to "self actualize."
Hi Kanaju!. Autophagy is also the process on which a living being repurposes their own materials for energy or building blocks. When a person fast for some time, enters a state of autophagy. That repurposing sound macabre, but it can be a good thing. There are some (maybe a lot) medical benefits.
VR really does enhance the experience, at least in my personal experience. Everything from exploration, to driving, to combat feel better in VR to me. The only thing that's tougher is starship piloting, though that can be adjusted through settings. Still, leaving a planet's atmosphere in VR is a powerful experience. I always look over my shoulder as I depart. 👨🚀
I think the symbol for the camps resembles the ship body of the sentinel interceptors. At least mine is, it's identical, looks like a roomba with wings XD If I took the wings off it would look like that symbol, a roomba with eyes and hanging cable.
Well since the new sentinel ships can hover naturally, I am hoping "Descent" / "Everspace" like combat. It could be a fully corrupted world or proto planet where you need navigate your ship through and fight hordes of enemies. Though before they can do that, the flight mechanics will need to be overhauled so that at least sentinels ships can move directly side to side and up and down.
SPOILERS The Abyss better show itself. The corrupted planets perfectly line up with the Sunken Ruin saying that a person’s arms shine like glass. They are being corrupted by the purple crystals. Laylaps is also working the the Abyss, and they follow us around as the drone, and they said that they need us, and Telamon to carry out a plan to survive the death of the Atlas. I am really curious as to how this will play out. There is a line in the Sentinel Pillar logs that says something like “Telamon, you could be whole again.”, which shows that maybe Telamon and the player will have to choose between following Laylaps to work the the Abyss to survive the death of the Atlas, or stop the Abyss and accept the fate of the universe. I am really excited as this sounds like a very climactic way to end of the narrative of the game. I am looking forward to seeing how each character will be sent off. I think there will still be gameplay updates after this, but I think this is it for the story after the Void Mother saga concludes. Hello Games probably wants to end off this grand story they have been building for years while they can before the game loses its popularity. I fully support that. Similar to how Astroneer’s Awakening update ended the story for that game.
7:15 The quest in which you discover the Autophage race answers this question actually. The start of the quest happens when your spaceship gets hacked, and you go to the coordinates that hacked it to find one of these destroyed Autophages. He explains that he was left there to serve as an interface/communication between the Autophages, which live hidden and the other races. At that point, he explains that he hacked into the player's ship because he scanned for the 3 known races (Korvax, Gek, Vykeen) and did not identify any lifeform so he thought the ship was unmanned, which would make it an interceptor. Knowing this, he hacked into the ship to "free" it from the hive mind of the sentinels. Based on this, you can easily assume that there is an Autophage near each landed interceptor (remember that interceptors are not crashed, they are just landed there, their technology is never damaged when you claim the ship, contrary to crashed ships) because the autophage hacked into the ship, and landed it near him afterwards. Since I discovered this, I always assumed that the Autophages where the cause of the sentinel corruption.
I've always thought the anomaly planets with plant life that looks exactly like a space station core had more to them... I believe you can get an anomaly version for your base as well.
I’ve noticed that every step of the way, I’m becoming a sentinel… I have a sentinel ExoMech, a Sentinel Drone Companion, and now a Sentinel Ship!?? We are becoming sentinels.
Honestly, you wrapped it up real good, nice catch with the AI core and camps! Also, notice that the glow and glitching of these interfaces, and the plants those a growing...pretty much resemble the oddities found on sporal/calcified planets.
Having now finished the Singularity expedition, I'm drawing connections to some of the mysteries in this video. Specifically with the final choice you have to make in the expedition
I can't help but wonder if the Abyss is in fact some kind of virus on Atlas's servers, that there is a much bigger story on the outside than we presently know. As for the Atlantidideum, I think it's an actual visual manifestation of the world of glass being shattered by the Abyss and what we're seeing is those shards of glass entering normal space time of NMS.
i always thought they were the sentinal pilots. Though, i also think this is leading to Artemis' resurrection. After that story thats all i wanted and still want to do, i chose to simulate Artemis mainly because i thought i could bring them back later by uploading them into a willing Korvax... but these new beings might be a perfect shell.
Pardon me, but I have an idea for a video. I don't know if you ever covered this, but could you perhaps explain the deep-space discoveries you can encounter? I don't think all of us fully understand the mechanics or lore behind all of them, and I think you might have all of the clips needed from a prior video.
I'm sorry about that. I rely on RUclips's automatic subtitle generation. However, I had uploaded my video just about 30 minutes prior to publishing it, so the system likely hadn't processed it yet at that time. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Subtitles should be live now. Thanks for watching!
I think the aeron robots used to pilot the sentinel interceptors. The description for the pilot A.I core thing mentions that the interceptor has a "vestigial cockpit" meaning a cockpit that was once used but has since lost its purpose like a vestigial organ
The self actualize line could be that the autophage were going to do what we do with the interceptor and make a harmonic brain but were stopped or failed to do so
Maybe next to the abyss and the atlas there has risen a new entity. Combining the aspects of both. Harmoniy. The uncorrupted sentinels are part of harmony as well as the interceptors. Normal sentinels might fight the corrupt sentinels which would explain why their force got so much greater, now even including capital ships, when the corruption appeared. They fight both the abyss and the atlas as both strive to destroy the universe in their own way. This might also be why the pirates want you to refuse to resetting the universe. Harmony wants to bring harmony to the existing universe stabilizing it and stop the resetting cycle maybe.
I love your videos, and I think your game updates and discussions are some of the most detailed and beautiful ever done on youtube. Anyway regarding the Atlandideum, I don't know if you noticed but it seems to be a merger between the name Atlantid and Pugneum (Atlantid-Eum) My theory is that the crystals are none other than the Pugneum that used to be in the sentinels of the system which, after being corrupted by the Abyss, crystallized and burst out of their shells (many say they are attached to them, but even the description says it "comes out of its shells" when you destroy them, a description, lo and behold, similar to the Pugneum)
Thanks for the kind words! And you're right, using -eum as the suffix could suggest its relation to pugneum. That's a great observation. I still don't know how pugneum fits into the ecosystem as a whole though. I understand it's a material unique to the sentinels, but I wonder what it actually is. We receive Salvaged Glass and Pugneum when destroying sentinels, so we know sentinels contain glass within. You can harvest Glass Grains from anomalous planets, which are also home to Boundary Failures, which could imply the World of Glass seeping up into regular reality. And then you have the Dissonance Resonators which aren't injecting corruption into planets, but rather pulling it up to the surface. Which could make these corrupted planets similar to the anomalous ones. I assume it's this process that creates the Atlantideum crystals we see on the surface. Its description as "prismatic grains" makes it seems to be more similar to Glass Grains and glass in general than Pugneum. HOWEVER, both Pugneum and Atlantideum display some form of movement, possibly even rudimentary intelligence, similar to nanite clusters. So maybe they are directly related as you suggest. And for all we know, pugneum could be some form of liquid glass. Interesting. Typical No Man's Sky: I have no idea what any of it means. lol Thanks for watching and commenting!
with as much as we know about nanites so far, keep in mind this as well: Nanites can be refined from living mold, which is refined from pugeneum, but that's not all! pugeneum itself can be made from atlantideum 🤔🤔, and refining pugeneum with atlantideum actually produces EVEN MORE mold than the latter recipe. This could support that Atlantideum comes from korvax prime and that the korvax are related to the mother's current plans somehow. And I wonder how all of this relates to the Vyke'en's stories of Hirk, and the convergence issues the technology scientist had in his quest 🤔🤔 so much is building up but some pieces of the puzzle are missing
One thing I've noticed is that everything has been getting more rugged, almost as if it needs to be reliable in more testing enviorments, like a warzone for instance.
To "Self-Actualize" means "To see one's self for what they really are". Therefore, that would be like A.I. awakening to what it is and gaining sentience.
So the void kids are initiating the death of the atlas from their space after being defragmented and stashed in quarantine of a bad data area? Looks like they mean business. Reckon the rescue missions for either side will be facilitated by the anomaly. Think the murder clone character in there was a test run
Dude. I just stumbled upon something that may be involved. I went to a gek archive and it was about the enslavement of the korvax and it had three details. First: the korvax were forced to separate from the convergence. Second: that they were given equipment and forced to mine resources in forced defiance to the Atlas. Third (and most important to the mystery of the autophage:) They were forced to alter their bodies and take humanoid forms in a mockery of life. That is to say that the korvax didn't always look like korvax. They were forced to take that form in enslavement to the gek. This is kind of a big detail in my opinion.
There was an old abandoned theory about the universe of Ubisoft games particularly Assassin's Creed that the meta world was a simulation created because the real world was facing a catastrophic event and the only solution was to create a simulated universe and have humanity take refuge inside. Time dilation, theoretically, could give them millennia to work out a solution to the catastrophe facing the real world. I believe this is the only escape the Abyss has from the simulation and it's eventual end. It must create its own simulated universe and become the god/atlas of that universe. She survived by existing in the dilated time of another lower universe. This cycle, of course, would continue all the way down.
I haven't looked into these yet, I've been crashing at an unplayable level since the patch. These don't look as disjointed as they appear to be on the surface. I look forward to seeing people start putting these together. Wouldn't be the first time they did something like that.
You mentioned that the ships have no pilot but these do thats why we encounter them in space and follow to the planet where they crashed. We just retrofit the ship for us to pilot. I believe these "robots" are a type if Korvax.
This game... it looks like just some space exploration and survival game but man, if this lore isn't on par with From Software at their best. So intriguing and existentialist.
I got the impression that atlantideum could be pugneum reprogrammed to take on the properties of mordite, which is associated with organic rather than mechanical beings.
I remember having a discussion with one of the Autophages - a rather long discussion as I recall. The topic had to do with where they came from and their choice to go with the Void Mother rather than the Atlas - Igot the impression that the Autophages were around before the Kovak and existed during the destruction of the Prime world - the comment was made that the Atlas stood back and let the destruction occur, rather than intercede on their behalf and the Autophages gave up their alliance to the Atlas as a retaliation - the Korvak remained loyal to the Atlas, but they did not and are rebuilding now for some return of the Void Mother. But, who am I to to say something while you schollars of NMS see so much... 😅
Okay so this might be overthinking it a bit but in ancient Greek auto means self and phage comes from the verb to eat or to consume. Especially since the autophages often have Greek letters in their names I don't think it's much of a stretch to make this connection
Perhaps the auto phage speech is a sort of poem and the moons of korvax prime might have been where they sent dead or broken korvax, and the autophages where made to breakdown the old korvax but somehow started gaining autonomy and didn't want to destroy the bit of sentience and memories in the old casings. Which is probably what the reference tothe hivemind is about and this sequence of events probably led to the downfall of the atlas and the whole 16 problem.
I have a theory that the autophages are beta sentinel units but later on scrapped because it kinda makes sense since two of the heads are sentinel summoners
Somebody's probably already said this but self-actualize probably either means becomes self-aware or break whatever AI restrictions they have. It's a revolution.
Seems like the area around the harmonic camps lack the purple corruption filter, just like around the travelers when they touch down on corrupted planets.
I was wondering if I should be writing down the numbers the twitching hand gives me when I find a sentinel ship or camp. Are they glyphs for a portal address or something? I found the same ship twice in 2 different systems, and rhe response was " the seventeenth??" With a question mark... and it would not let me interact with the ship I assume because I already claimed that model. Kinda made me scratch my head.... which I LOVE cus the far-out'ness of NMS is something I really dig about this game. I also ran into a SynthGek in a random building... first time in over 1700 hours of play. Thought that was neat. They look the same but with little Jetsons antennae on their hat and their speech mannerism is a little different.
Synthgek have been in the game for a very long time, but they used to have much more interesting interactions associated with them, before one of the updates made all npc interactions more generic or dead-ended. They are extremely rare, though.
@@mmceorange I thought they were just lore. Like I said, 1700 hours and I just met one. I like them better than standard Gek... he didn't try to fart on me. 🤣
@@mmceorange yeah in the Planetary Archive files they talk about how the SynthGek came about and what A-holes the Gek were before their DNA was altered. The Korvax tried to fix the Gek, which were pretty much heartless greedy dinks that enalaved the Korvax. Nanites were used to alter Gek DNA so they weren't such pricks and the 1st round was SynthGek, created as some kind of infiltrator or something. I don't remeber all the details... but it ended with Gek becoming "friendly" (like a used car salesman lol) and Sentinels making their entrance this dimension. And genicide I think too. I will have to go and look. But the Korvax are ashamed and the Gek are insulted by the whole situation and without the sentinels showing up they would probably be at each other. Or something like that. Gek and Korvax get upset if you use the word to practice your language with them, I know that much. Its the galactic N-word.
My personal theory is the Dissonance is a type of cancer. “Dissonance” would be a term relative to the original, while “harmony” would be used from the reference point of the already Dissonant, therefore preventing further dissonant factions from branching off afterwards and competing. Sorta how cancer can form several different cell colonies due to its rate of mutations. This would also explain why the Atlas isn’t actively destroying this corruption, because just like cancer the body doesn’t recognize it as foreign anymore. The cockpit of the obtainable sentinel ship is called “vestigial”, meaning it serves no purpose anymore but still exists because of prior function. Meaning the dissonance itself gives the ship the means to actively make the cockpit as such. Relatively new to the game compared to the rest of ya. But if nobody said anything before me, I hope any of this could be of assistance.
I'm a new player and its actually sad how on youtube you can follow a path of people telling others to not bother with the story and just go play as if its bad and meaningless! Just go explore, find, and build,I never realised this game had great lore, stories, mysteries, and so forth!!!
One of my friends ignored the story and I forced him to finish the main storyline
Omg from day one this game has been all about the lore so rich and intriguing whoever advised you to ignore the lore did you a disservice making you miss out on something that is intrinsic to the game.
7:35 In psychology, to self actualize means to fully realize and develop your sense of self, to harmonize and integrate both the conscious and unconscious mind. Perhaps by this they mean every interceptor wishes to be self aware, to have a fully realized sense of self, to be individual rather than serve the hive for eternity.
That’s basically what the Autophage wants, to separate themselves from the Korvax Convergence and the Atlas to become true individuals.
Thank god echoes releases because it shines a more clearer light upon all of the mysteries presented here.
What ever happens, I'm really hoping overhauls regarding oceans and space stations eventually lead up to us being able to somehow enter the world of glass, maybe finding/making corrupted portals and sort of induce what happened to artemis to allow us to cross the boundary into the world of glass. Regarding a space station update, seems likely as new exterior space station designs were datamined relatively recently.
Also it seems that atlantadeum is the result of the abyss corrupting pugneum in sentinels, as when you refine atlantadeum into pugneum the operation is called: Restoring harmony
I personally think it's reverse, the world of glass is fracturing and so everything that once was, lore wise, will be again. It's a good excuse to explain what expansions are from a lore perspective. Of course this is just fun theory.👍
When you revealed the camp is made out of the space station core, my eyes actually widened. You really go into so much depth compared to any other NMS creator! 😄
What I'm really interested in is seeing how the final build of NMS will look like.. how the story will evolve to make sense from start to finish in a playthrough instead of it being a "you had to play it while it was being developed to get the full experience" you know?
Btw, I like pronouncing it "Atlan - tiddy - umm" for.. reasons.
That was how I was pronouncing it, too.
Same
I wonder the same thing. I fell off of Destiny 2 when they started sunsetting content, so I hope NMS doesn't do the same. I understand timed content, but removed previously implied permanent content is another matter.
And tbh I usually pronounce it that way too. lol It flows a lot easier that way. But for whatever reason I decided to try and pronounce it all proper this time. 🤷♂️ I'll probably flip flop going forward like I do with route and route or pecan and pecan. 😉 Thanks for watching!
Great insights especially the connection with mordite! Mind never made that connection. Excellent video as always Kanaju I cant wait for what all these teases lead to!
Thanks! And it's good to have you back! Your video was great too. 🤙
@@Kanaju Thank you bud 😃
"self-actualization" - The process of becoming everything you are capable of becoming...It also means - The FULL realization of one's creative, intellectual, and social potential.
This video is awesome thanks so much kanaju.
I’m a huge fan of NMS lore but the abyss hasn’t grabbed me as much as the main story did, until this most recent update! Now i’m hyped to see where this goes
I have played this game for 1000s of hours and yet your videos often show that my knowledge is mere surface and reflection. Thank you! Always informative and insightful, and quality to the centre. Grah! Kzzt.
Back at it again with the comprehensive NMS lore vids huh? Very nice very nice 👌 (seriously, this is great)
I have been waiting for this video since the update came out. I knew I could count on you to put it all together for me, ha ha. I know you have been trying to grow your channel for a while now. Am I missing the patreon link?
WOW! Thank you so much for your continued support. I'm glad you liked the video. It's true, I've been working hard to grow the channel for a while now. I've been workshopping some Patreon ideas, but I don't want to launch it until I know I can commit the time needed to deliver on it. I am hoping to reach that point in the next few months.
What sort of perks would you like to see in such a case? I am thinking of Patreon-only posts, Discord access, and perhaps answering Patreon questions in videos. Plus credits at the end of videos, of course. Speaking of which, I would love to thank you for your support in my next video if that's alright with you. I appreciate everything!
@Kanaju To be honest, I would prefer not to be mentioned. I really try hard to stay of the message boards. I don't comment often on utube. In your case, it's the only way to show my appreciation for your hard work and content creation. I know it takes time and effort. I can see you do it out of passion for the game.
As far as perks go, I leave it in your capable hands. Early access is nice. I don't use discourse. I have fun when you go down the "lore" rabbit hole or strangest things videos. I personally like the fact that your generally into the story behind the game. There are plenty of channels that have game play and I don't watch them. I am probably not your average subscriber so I don't know if you should take much stock in my advice to grow your channel. I'll end with, thank you again for your hard work and passion. I truly enjoy your insight on one of the games I enjoy playing. If you ever find a galaxy discovered by Topshelfcab, just know I was there, ha ha.
@@mtmountainflyer9734 I can respect that. Thanks again for your continued support. And thank you for your feedback on Patreon perks and content! To be honest, I don't know if I have an average subscriber, as everyone seems to see something different in NMS, but I'm glad you enjoy my denser videos. I'll keep an eye out for your discoveries while I explore. 👨🚀 Thanks again!
Great video, as always! I just wanted to point out that "autophagia" means consuming one's own body parts, so possibly another layer of meaning to the disjointed pieces left behind.
Considering what dissonant planets have on them and the sentient crystals phage in this instance could mean a type of infectious disease. Autophage in this instance could also mean infected machines. They’re broken, shattered and these planets are filled with infected, blighted machinery
Im hooked to this game alot, and somehow You make me want to play this game even more
I hope the autophages do become a new race in the form of new enemy and minor faction. I find it intersting that LayLaps says nothing when your on corrupted planet. If they do become a future race i hope they give us the option to make our character one.
Maybe we could get a quest to repair an autophage after Laylaps notices a one in a wreck. Maybe they could become a point of intrest in our settlement after repairing it. Like a merchant with good upgrades or they could sell new tech & items.
But we will have to see what Hello Games has in store for us with their future updates.
If you'd have told me in 2016 that this game would have deep lore and new mechanics even into 2023, I'd have called you insane. It's just amazing that Hello Games stuck with it this long.
Oh boy did this comment aged like fine wine, congrats for seeing the future my guy
excuse me, a TIME TRAVELLER?
I thought this video was fantastic So much information thank you
also, it would be fun in a possible water update if they added a planet type with much, *much* deeper oceans that required a submarine to traverse. Maybe we could get a larger variant of submarine, as well, or maybe even a full-on boat. would love to explore an ocean so deep that, as you descend into the depths, it gradually becomes darker and darker until its a pitch black that only the lights on a submarine can illuminate. it would be fun to go full subnautica on the ocean planets -- leviathans, horrors, and all.
That would be epic. Imagine a cyclops like submarine with a high tech interior with maybe an AI driver and assistant.
Like subnautica
@@nathanpfirman625 @Nathan Pfirman the cyclops from subnautica
So, apologies if this has been covered and I missed it, but there was a message I saw from one of the sentinel scraps that went as follows:
2, 6, 12, 60, 120, 360, 2520, 5040, 55440, 720720, 1441440, 4324320, 21621600, 367567200.
Similar ‘puzzle’ to some of the building terminals you encounter in the game. 6 / 2 = 3. 12 / 6 = 2. Etc. If you continue dividing each number by the previous number, you get a list of 13 numbers:
3, 2, 5, 2, 3, 7, 2, 11, 13, 2, 3, 5, 17
The first 12 have to be glyph numbers to a portal coordinate. The last, 17, matches another message from a sentinel scrap pile: .
I’m currently in Rarismutal galaxy, so portalled to those coordinates. Nothing. Went back to Euclid and portalled to those coords. Someone had been there already, but it was an empty system. I don’t know what I expected but why provide a very specific set of portal coords which don’t lead to anything. Maybe in the 17th galaxy? Which is Hitonskyer, just realized that. Rarismutal is 18….ok I’m going back to Hitonskyer later and portalling to those coords. Doubt I’ll find anything but has anybody else been chasing these portal coordinates?
Edit: Just realized the portal glyph numbers are all prime numbers too. I saw another message which gave the Euclid-Mullin sequence which has to do with primes. There’s gotta be something to this.
I really love your content. Thank you for doing what you do.
Superb analysis! I myself started cataloguing the binary sequences strewn across the camps but was only halfway through.
Thank you for saving me what could easily be a couple of days of hunting!
Some really insightful thoughts in this video, not to mention some crucial details that were overlooked by players like myself. Thanks for sharing.
I've been trying to piece the puzzle together since the interceptor update went live. So far, based on what I've pieced together, the AIs want to be free, to be released from all hiveminds or masters. It seems the robot like bodies are original Aerons that seem to want a reconstruction of their original civilization but with freedom. There also appears to be an ongoing conflict between different sentinel groups, referring to the seventeenth as the enemy, corrupting them. The original Aerons want to save them. When you add the death of the Atlas to this and the history of the Korvax gek war, it's plausible that the Aeron race was created by the Korvax and are survivors of that war, they seem to be more advanced than the sentinels we currently see and even those small parts or language indicate they are self aware. Either that or the 17th had a part in destroying korvax Prime, and they were created by the Atlas to protect the korvax and the simulation against the spreading corruption, and now the Atlas is no more the corruption is spreading unchecked. Also, if the sentinels can be corrupted, so can the stations, theoretically. This is all just speculation, of course. I'm going to keep digging.
So cool your videos. Well made and full of stuff that i never would have figured it out. THX!
Maybe it’s all an orchestration by the Atlas to live past it’s own destruction and lead into a sequel where the simulation is more powerful
I feel like we might be really close to the story finishing and the destruction of the atlas, I am probably wrong though
Absolutely wrong.
It's no surprise that Hello Games will eventually have one final update for NMS... And when it's done, Sean and the team will move onto something else.
@@DynoSkrimisher Apparently half the team is split between working on NMS and their new ambitious secret game. And the half that's working on NMS is also divided into teams working on different updates and just release the ones that are finished first, while still having a roadmap they all follow.
The atlas is already gone. We are living in its final 16 seconds after its shutdown was started. Each new galaxy moving forward restarts the simulation in a further compressed state of time, which effectively buys time for Atlas to continue simulating existence.
Its entirely possible the 16 seconds will last eons of simulated time, minutes, or even seconds.
But Atlas is basically dead. It's why the sentinels were acting out and why Atlas has been very quiet.
@@ThreeGoddesses *16 minutes
Watching this video and reading through the dialogue that you present in the first part, when it got to 14 and 15, I interpreted it as the Interceptors wanting to break free. Whether this is on a personal basis, sort of like how a Korvax is somewhat of an individual from the Convergence. Or if in the same manner that the Atlas wants to see it's creator again, that want has bled through to it's Interceptors wanting to bond with Travelers.
Most, if not all, of the Interceptors have a Greek letter in their name. Here I think it might be a bit more literal, with 'alpha to omega' encompassing the names of each Interceptor I took 'Alpha to Omega' in 15 in conjuncture with 14, as in 'every Interceptor, alpha to omega, wants to self actualize.'
That's just my take on this one small part of these new mysteries, thanks for another great video!
Pretty sure the camp map symbol is meant to be the interceptor ship cockpit, looks very similar to the ships that have no wings, at least to me. Pretty sure new race will be the Aerons which were taken by the sentinels into the abyss, the ones we will find will be escapees. Wondering myself where everyone gets the idea of the blackhole destroying Atlas, only reference I have seen is the purple text stating gravitational anomaly detected, which I think could be Atlas being absorbed into the abyss personally and Atlas can only really understand it like he does the simulation. Also I believe the corruption is actually the conversion of data which will allow the current simulation residents to be transferred to another place and perhaps the star made during the Atlas path will allow a new Atlas to be born after said system storage/simulation jump, perhaps this will culminate in a No Man's Sky 2. Appreciate your coverage of lore. Can't wait for more of the future story stuff in this game personally.
You are a genius storyteller my friend. Thanks for all you do ♥️
The one thing I've noticed the # sequences are from Rebuilt units not Autophages I've been writing them down because of this been on hunt on the first planet I found an interceptor on looking for other differences in them as well.
Yea you notice a few where missing ?
@@apahtlicasas If you are referring to the discord list no clue haven't seen it I have 11 sequences so far. I figure there should be another same as the 17th for the same total of 12.
@@boblister6174 ye I’ve got a few too but not the same or missing from the list
Down for anything that makes the universe more lively. I like looking at the lore on terminals and stuff tbh lol. Really want that water update though...
From what I'm gathering, I believe that the void, the echoes of korvax prime, the voices of knowledge, corrupted the sentinels and causes them to turn on their objective. The main objective of the sentinels is to preserve things the way they are, keep things from changing. These corrupted sentinels, though, have machines that do the exact thing they were programmed to stop. The regular sentinel towers have mentioned before concepts of sentinel "life" separating from the atlas somewhat, via the voice of the hive. I believe that there could be a species of more humanoid, sentient sentinels out there. We already know they are capable of forming an independent consciousness when severed from the hive, since The Sentry even has memories of someone it remembers, and gives itself a name, suggesting it has a personality of its own. Maybe these robots were supposed to be a new line of defense that the sentinels got/made, but the very core of them was corrupted by the void, which may also have the voices of the lost korvax prime within it, maybe carrying remnants of what would he lower class citizens of the planet, cast off to the moons, which, with the destruction of the main planet, would have been destroyed as well. Who knows, maybe the void is even a breach in the world of glass.
The part of autophagy that mentions reusing old and damaged cell parts made me wonder if instead of a junkyard the harmonic camps are in some way used to create something new. There are lots of scrap and spare parts laying around, and a multitool cabinet and crashed ship to arm these new beings with...
Nailed it
I think that the autophages could be some other model of korvax shells, maybe a military experiment because of the pugneum (even though the korvax are scientists) and uses sentinel tech, but I’m not the best at nms lore so I’m probably completely wrong.
Edit: they could have been shells made by korvax like Nada who’ve disconnected from the convergence with junk on moons of Korvax Prime? The name autophage could be the korvax who left the convergence
Both good theories!
Fantastic - again!
I feel I must take an exception to one comment you make - to paraphrase - 'It is nice that NMS has finally found their course again.'
I personally think they never lost it. Look at your own videos of the Lore and other basic concepts that you have explained. Those don't just come to a story teller out of need at a random time.
An example: I lead a authors group that produces 'series' of books. Those series must be given thought to create the entire series. One that I am sure you are familiar with, and one I had no interface with, is 'Harry Potter'. She could not have written those books over time without some planning as to when and where those ideas would be used in the future.
In addition, the technology changes with time - could many if the things presented today have been made available 6 years ago. You are in the tech world, as I was since the beginnings of the first IBM computers, and the things we do today we're impossible to do 60 years ago.
The have only totally reset the database twice, maybe three times, that has upset people so extremely - that is rather remarkable in retrospect.
I think they have written their story quite well, and we are growing with it. Again, look at all the depth you have gotten out of this to explain to us.
The autophage is basically the clean up crew because the corrupt sentinels are well corrupt and the APs (Autophage) are there to clean and destroy the corruption even though it seems they failed
I’ve been waiting YEARS for NMS to become this lore heavy 😂thank you 🔥💪
Wait... Pugneum, which is full of nanites and lubricates the joints of (an)droids, seems to also _program_ them as well.
Recent episode of Mando: Droids are programed by nanites they get from their lubricant.
Did Star Wars just rip off No Man's Sky?
That detail did seem odd in the Mandalorian. I haven't read all of the comics or books or anything, but I'm a pretty big Star Wars fan and I didn't recall that ever being a thing before. It did sound like nanites!
That’s just amazing! Thank you for making this eye opening NMS video , haven’t touched the game since last two updates and man the lore theory expanded. Hopefully we get introduced with a new race slowly inviting or invading/fighting back against them or against....mother
Before interceptor update I had been visiting those large planet type structures of each race and depositing 3 random items into the corresponding safes. Then going up to the data place and triggering it to download any data. Just recently I happened upon one of the Gek race and the data revealed something about an abduction, and that greed had played some part in all of it. That *units* would be of no use or something to that effect. Maybe I am imagining it, but the junk yard moons may play a role in trying to escape an abduction to the abyss. If units are of no use, you can't buy your way out. Alien abduction would add quite the wrinkle to the game. Especially if you lose everything and money err units is of no use. I have a vivid imagination..... just speculation of where it could go given some weird cryptic text messages I have read. The odd portal like structures end with "they are watching you" --- who is they?
Lets goooo new video 🎉
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vwry cool video!!! love the thought of all the speculative lore!!!
To answer your question at ~22:35, I'm pretty sure Void Mother has inhabited the World of Glass ever since she was archived via her destruction by the First Spawn. Everything that is destroyed in the simulation seems to get archived there, after all.
As for the autophages, the Pilot Interface device installed on every Interceptor ship mentions that it is installed to "prevent rejection/consumption of the pilot by the ships vestigial cockpit." Vestigial implies the cockpit used to serve a putpose, but doesn't anymore... meaning they used to carry pilots. It's possible these autophages were victims of the ship's process of autophagy, as the ships attempted to "self actualize."
I appreciate the research and detail you put into your videos! Keep up the fantastic work!!!
Hi Kanaju!. Autophagy is also the process on which a living being repurposes their own materials for energy or building blocks. When a person fast for some time, enters a state of autophagy. That repurposing sound macabre, but it can be a good thing. There are some (maybe a lot) medical benefits.
If you have never played this in VR, you are missing out on an amazing experience.
VR really does enhance the experience, at least in my personal experience. Everything from exploration, to driving, to combat feel better in VR to me. The only thing that's tougher is starship piloting, though that can be adjusted through settings.
Still, leaving a planet's atmosphere in VR is a powerful experience. I always look over my shoulder as I depart. 👨🚀
I think the symbol for the camps resembles the ship body of the sentinel interceptors. At least mine is, it's identical, looks like a roomba with wings XD If I took the wings off it would look like that symbol, a roomba with eyes and hanging cable.
Well since the new sentinel ships can hover naturally, I am hoping "Descent" / "Everspace" like combat. It could be a fully corrupted world or proto planet where you need navigate your ship through and fight hordes of enemies. Though before they can do that, the flight mechanics will need to be overhauled so that at least sentinels ships can move directly side to side and up and down.
The game tries very hard to stick with arcade controls and avoid 6DOF so I can't see that happening.
Would be nice to get some combat overhauls though
SPOILERS
The Abyss better show itself. The corrupted planets perfectly line up with the Sunken Ruin saying that a person’s arms shine like glass. They are being corrupted by the purple crystals. Laylaps is also working the the Abyss, and they follow us around as the drone, and they said that they need us, and Telamon to carry out a plan to survive the death of the Atlas. I am really curious as to how this will play out. There is a line in the Sentinel Pillar logs that says something like “Telamon, you could be whole again.”, which shows that maybe Telamon and the player will have to choose between following Laylaps to work the the Abyss to survive the death of the Atlas, or stop the Abyss and accept the fate of the universe. I am really excited as this sounds like a very climactic way to end of the narrative of the game. I am looking forward to seeing how each character will be sent off. I think there will still be gameplay updates after this, but I think this is it for the story after the Void Mother saga concludes. Hello Games probably wants to end off this grand story they have been building for years while they can before the game loses its popularity. I fully support that. Similar to how Astroneer’s Awakening update ended the story for that game.
It's very intriguing. One clue I got at one of the Autophage's was "Junkyard Moons".
7:15 The quest in which you discover the Autophage race answers this question actually. The start of the quest happens when your spaceship gets hacked, and you go to the coordinates that hacked it to find one of these destroyed Autophages. He explains that he was left there to serve as an interface/communication between the Autophages, which live hidden and the other races.
At that point, he explains that he hacked into the player's ship because he scanned for the 3 known races (Korvax, Gek, Vykeen) and did not identify any lifeform so he thought the ship was unmanned, which would make it an interceptor. Knowing this, he hacked into the ship to "free" it from the hive mind of the sentinels.
Based on this, you can easily assume that there is an Autophage near each landed interceptor (remember that interceptors are not crashed, they are just landed there, their technology is never damaged when you claim the ship, contrary to crashed ships) because the autophage hacked into the ship, and landed it near him afterwards.
Since I discovered this, I always assumed that the Autophages where the cause of the sentinel corruption.
I've always thought the anomaly planets with plant life that looks exactly like a space station core had more to them... I believe you can get an anomaly version for your base as well.
I’ve noticed that every step of the way, I’m becoming a sentinel…
I have a sentinel ExoMech, a Sentinel Drone Companion, and now a Sentinel Ship!??
We are becoming sentinels.
Honestly, you wrapped it up real good, nice catch with the AI core and camps! Also, notice that the glow and glitching of these interfaces, and the plants those a growing...pretty much resemble the oddities found on sporal/calcified planets.
Imagine what the next expedition could be😊
Having now finished the Singularity expedition, I'm drawing connections to some of the mysteries in this video. Specifically with the final choice you have to make in the expedition
put Atlantideum in a refiner produces Pugneum. put Atlantideum & Pugneum in a medium refiner produces Runaway Mold.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Making connections I can't believe I've never thought of! Dang🙌
I can't help but wonder if the Abyss is in fact some kind of virus on Atlas's servers, that there is a much bigger story on the outside than we presently know. As for the Atlantidideum, I think it's an actual visual manifestation of the world of glass being shattered by the Abyss and what we're seeing is those shards of glass entering normal space time of NMS.
i always thought they were the sentinal pilots.
Though, i also think this is leading to Artemis' resurrection.
After that story thats all i wanted and still want to do, i chose to simulate Artemis mainly because i thought i could bring them back later by uploading them into a willing Korvax... but these new beings might be a perfect shell.
Interceptors don't have pilots beyond a brain in a box
@@Hawk7886 considering they have "cockpits", and have interior space sufficient for cargo and a pilot, who knows
I hope you talk about the point to feeding the autophages.
If you look closely at the scattered parts it really seems like autophages have the body type of a sentinel hardframe
I think the text fragments of the autophages are pieces of a whole entry, if you read them 1 after the other, it makes sense as whole entry.
Pardon me, but I have an idea for a video. I don't know if you ever covered this, but could you perhaps explain the deep-space discoveries you can encounter? I don't think all of us fully understand the mechanics or lore behind all of them, and I think you might have all of the clips needed from a prior video.
So interesting! I’m interested in the lore now. Thank you!
Great video as always. I was disappointed to see that CC was not available though. (I have hearing loss.)
I'm sorry about that. I rely on RUclips's automatic subtitle generation. However, I had uploaded my video just about 30 minutes prior to publishing it, so the system likely hadn't processed it yet at that time. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Subtitles should be live now. Thanks for watching!
I think the aeron robots used to pilot the sentinel interceptors. The description for the pilot A.I core thing mentions that the interceptor has a "vestigial cockpit" meaning a cockpit that was once used but has since lost its purpose like a vestigial organ
8:15 I don’t know if anyone knows this but alpha and omega are ranks in a pack
Alpha=highest rank
Omega=lowest rank
Alphas lead the pack
The self actualize line could be that the autophage were going to do what we do with the interceptor and make a harmonic brain but were stopped or failed to do so
Maybe next to the abyss and the atlas there has risen a new entity. Combining the aspects of both. Harmoniy. The uncorrupted sentinels are part of harmony as well as the interceptors. Normal sentinels might fight the corrupt sentinels which would explain why their force got so much greater, now even including capital ships, when the corruption appeared. They fight both the abyss and the atlas as both strive to destroy the universe in their own way. This might also be why the pirates want you to refuse to resetting the universe. Harmony wants to bring harmony to the existing universe stabilizing it and stop the resetting cycle maybe.
I love your videos, and I think your game updates and discussions are some of the most detailed and beautiful ever done on youtube.
Anyway regarding the Atlandideum, I don't know if you noticed but it seems to be a merger between the name Atlantid and Pugneum (Atlantid-Eum)
My theory is that the crystals are none other than the Pugneum that used to be in the sentinels of the system which, after being corrupted by the Abyss, crystallized and burst out of their shells (many say they are attached to them, but even the description says it "comes out of its shells" when you destroy them, a description, lo and behold, similar to the Pugneum)
Thanks for the kind words! And you're right, using -eum as the suffix could suggest its relation to pugneum. That's a great observation. I still don't know how pugneum fits into the ecosystem as a whole though. I understand it's a material unique to the sentinels, but I wonder what it actually is. We receive Salvaged Glass and Pugneum when destroying sentinels, so we know sentinels contain glass within. You can harvest Glass Grains from anomalous planets, which are also home to Boundary Failures, which could imply the World of Glass seeping up into regular reality. And then you have the Dissonance Resonators which aren't injecting corruption into planets, but rather pulling it up to the surface. Which could make these corrupted planets similar to the anomalous ones. I assume it's this process that creates the Atlantideum crystals we see on the surface. Its description as "prismatic grains" makes it seems to be more similar to Glass Grains and glass in general than Pugneum. HOWEVER, both Pugneum and Atlantideum display some form of movement, possibly even rudimentary intelligence, similar to nanite clusters. So maybe they are directly related as you suggest. And for all we know, pugneum could be some form of liquid glass. Interesting.
Typical No Man's Sky: I have no idea what any of it means. lol Thanks for watching and commenting!
kanaju big brain time
I try, but my brain felt more like scrambled eggs after this one. lolol Thanks for watching!
@@Kanaju lol
with as much as we know about nanites so far, keep in mind this as well:
Nanites can be refined from living mold, which is refined from pugeneum, but that's not all! pugeneum itself can be made from atlantideum 🤔🤔, and refining pugeneum with atlantideum actually produces EVEN MORE mold than the latter recipe.
This could support that Atlantideum comes from korvax prime and that the korvax are related to the mother's current plans somehow.
And I wonder how all of this relates to the Vyke'en's stories of Hirk, and the convergence issues the technology scientist had in his quest 🤔🤔
so much is building up but some pieces of the puzzle are missing
One thing I've noticed is that everything has been getting more rugged, almost as if it needs to be reliable in more testing enviorments, like a warzone for instance.
To "Self-Actualize" means "To see one's self for what they really are". Therefore, that would be like A.I. awakening to what it is and gaining sentience.
I find it interesting how the Abyss seems to have influence over bodies of water and the First Spawn coincidentally originated from spawning pools.
Biggest mystery for me...where are the effing camps? Number 2, why do I Never get echo locators? 3 why do I keep on trying?
So the void kids are initiating the death of the atlas from their space after being defragmented and stashed in quarantine of a bad data area? Looks like they mean business. Reckon the rescue missions for either side will be facilitated by the anomaly. Think the murder clone character in there was a test run
Here watching after Echoes release!
This makes me so much more hyped for a new big update. I swear!
Dude. I just stumbled upon something that may be involved.
I went to a gek archive and it was about the enslavement of the korvax and it had three details.
First: the korvax were forced to separate from the convergence.
Second: that they were given equipment and forced to mine resources in forced defiance to the Atlas.
Third (and most important to the mystery of the autophage:)
They were forced to alter their bodies and take humanoid forms in a mockery of life.
That is to say that the korvax didn't always look like korvax. They were forced to take that form in enslavement to the gek.
This is kind of a big detail in my opinion.
I think they should add ownable space stations like the settlement system
Nice call with the space station update
There was an old abandoned theory about the universe of Ubisoft games particularly Assassin's Creed that the meta world was a simulation created because the real world was facing a catastrophic event and the only solution was to create a simulated universe and have humanity take refuge inside.
Time dilation, theoretically, could give them millennia to work out a solution to the catastrophe facing the real world.
I believe this is the only escape the Abyss has from the simulation and it's eventual end.
It must create its own simulated universe and become the god/atlas of that universe.
She survived by existing in the dilated time of another lower universe.
This cycle, of course, would continue all the way down.
I haven't looked into these yet, I've been crashing at an unplayable level since the patch. These don't look as disjointed as they appear to be on the surface. I look forward to seeing people start putting these together. Wouldn't be the first time they did something like that.
Well done! I was wondering about the autophages. Maybe the clock will run out, and the real world person will defrag the abyss.
You mentioned that the ships have no pilot but these do thats why we encounter them in space and follow to the planet where they crashed. We just retrofit the ship for us to pilot. I believe these "robots" are a type if Korvax.
This game... it looks like just some space exploration and survival game but man, if this lore isn't on par with From Software at their best. So intriguing and existentialist.
I got the impression that atlantideum could be pugneum reprogrammed to take on the properties of mordite, which is associated with organic rather than mechanical beings.
I remember having a discussion with one of the Autophages - a rather long discussion as I recall. The topic had to do with where they came from and their choice to go with the Void Mother rather than the Atlas - Igot the impression that the Autophages were around before the Kovak and existed during the destruction of the Prime world - the comment was made that the Atlas stood back and let the destruction occur, rather than intercede on their behalf and the Autophages gave up their alliance to the Atlas as a retaliation - the Korvak remained loyal to the Atlas, but they did not and are rebuilding now for some return of the Void Mother.
But, who am I to to say something while you schollars of NMS see so much... 😅
also in 1 NMS game the autophage i had one of them was 0 to something but there was 16 highlighted in red
Okay so this might be overthinking it a bit but in ancient Greek auto means self and phage comes from the verb to eat or to consume. Especially since the autophages often have Greek letters in their names I don't think it's much of a stretch to make this connection
Perhaps the auto phage speech is a sort of poem and the moons of korvax prime might have been where they sent dead or broken korvax, and the autophages where made to breakdown the old korvax but somehow started gaining autonomy and didn't want to destroy the bit of sentience and memories in the old casings. Which is probably what the reference tothe hivemind is about and this sequence of events probably led to the downfall of the atlas and the whole 16 problem.
I have a theory that the autophages are beta sentinel units but later on scrapped because it kinda makes sense since two of the heads are sentinel summoners
Somebody's probably already said this but self-actualize probably either means becomes self-aware or break whatever AI restrictions they have. It's a revolution.
Watching this after the space station update. Thought Id say we got a space station update.
The pugneum that greases the subscribe button
Seems like the area around the harmonic camps lack the purple corruption filter, just like around the travelers when they touch down on corrupted planets.
I was wondering if I should be writing down the numbers the twitching hand gives me when I find a sentinel ship or camp. Are they glyphs for a portal address or something?
I found the same ship twice in 2 different systems, and rhe response was " the seventeenth??" With a question mark... and it would not let me interact with the ship I assume because I already claimed that model.
Kinda made me scratch my head.... which I LOVE cus the far-out'ness of NMS is something I really dig about this game.
I also ran into a SynthGek in a random building... first time in over 1700 hours of play. Thought that was neat. They look the same but with little Jetsons antennae on their hat and their speech mannerism is a little different.
Synthgek have been in the game for a very long time, but they used to have much more interesting interactions associated with them, before one of the updates made all npc interactions more generic or dead-ended. They are extremely rare, though.
@@mmceorange I thought they were just lore. Like I said, 1700 hours and I just met one.
I like them better than standard Gek... he didn't try to fart on me. 🤣
@@gwoody4003 lol. They had their own bit of lore, but it was never connected to anything as far as I know
@@mmceorange yeah in the Planetary Archive files they talk about how the SynthGek came about and what A-holes the Gek were before their DNA was altered. The Korvax tried to fix the Gek, which were pretty much heartless greedy dinks that enalaved the Korvax. Nanites were used to alter Gek DNA so they weren't such pricks and the 1st round was SynthGek, created as some kind of infiltrator or something. I don't remeber all the details... but it ended with Gek becoming "friendly" (like a used car salesman lol) and Sentinels making their entrance this dimension. And genicide I think too. I will have to go and look. But the Korvax are ashamed and the Gek are insulted by the whole situation and without the sentinels showing up they would probably be at each other.
Or something like that.
Gek and Korvax get upset if you use the word to practice your language with them, I know that much. Its the galactic N-word.
The logo for the camps looks really similar to the exterior front view of the cockpits. I think it does
I'm getting Waking Titan vibes again...
Also, isn't this year the 10th Anniversary of No Man's Sky's announcement?
Yeah, it does feel a bit like Waking Titan: all of the mystery, the suspense, the speculation. I love it! And yes it is. Thanks for watching!
i still amaze at how much the station cores look like Guilty spark ....
My personal theory is the Dissonance is a type of cancer. “Dissonance” would be a term relative to the original, while “harmony” would be used from the reference point of the already Dissonant, therefore preventing further dissonant factions from branching off afterwards and competing. Sorta how cancer can form several different cell colonies due to its rate of mutations. This would also explain why the Atlas isn’t actively destroying this corruption, because just like cancer the body doesn’t recognize it as foreign anymore.
The cockpit of the obtainable sentinel ship is called “vestigial”, meaning it serves no purpose anymore but still exists because of prior function. Meaning the dissonance itself gives the ship the means to actively make the cockpit as such.
Relatively new to the game compared to the rest of ya. But if nobody said anything before me, I hope any of this could be of assistance.