With boards like this, WHY does X670 exist?
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I can confirm that putting stickers on your case does in fact increase your FPS. I mean just the other day I got an extra 10 FPS by slapping on a sticker from one of the apples I ate. Maybe tomorrow I'll try the sticker from a banana and see what happens.
Banger of a motherboard overview fams. Keep up the hard work
I like hairy men now
Cheers for the coverage mate! Boards a certainly the major factor in Z4's slow uptake comparative to previous. The B550 Master is a heck of a board build wise, so it is good to see that continue. Interesting they have gone back to monolithic VRM blocks with heat pipe from the B550's fin stack array. The 4 NVMe slots is tempting- 1TB G4 NVMes are quite cheap now, so 4x 1TB RAID10 anyone?The lighting effects on the board are a major improvement over B550, but the reeeeaaal burning question is have Gigabyte improved the RGB Fusion software, because that is so bad on the B550 it has me considering going back to ASUS for Z4....
if ur interested in the 4x NVME slots, u shd chk out cheaper z690 intel chipset boards with ddr 5, paul's hardware recently highlighted the msi z690 a pro on his monthly budget builds video.
Intel 13th gen now has same price/cheaper cpus, with cheaper mobos at the same quality as zen 4 mobos
@@Fate025 true but if you buy 13th gen, that's end of the line when it comes to upgrade. 14th gen will require a new motherboard again.
2tb nv2 is $150 and some pny 2tb pcie3 is selling for $110 in my country
@@Fate025 just get the maxsun z690 then
Bios should be ready now even for 13900K
It's only $150 btw
When using 3 or 4 nvme slots on the b650e aorus master your pcie x16 slot drops down to x8. And RGB fusion is still horrible. It partially got installed with the 'auto software installer' imbedded in the bios (which you can choose to turn off) and it was all kinds of broken. After a lot of research and deleting stuff and reinstalling stuff one by one i got rgb fusion to play nice with the rgb software for my ddr5. Still not able to combine those with corsair icue though, cause it 'breaks' stuff again. Not a big deal for me as i can load presets to my corsair peripherals via my laptop and/or secondary pc and not have to use icue on my main rig.
These board prices are stupid. Do you think they will do anything about them with 7000 series not selling well?
This may seem a bit of a newbie question, but how did you get the board's RGB light working when taking cinematic shots of it without plugging in any cables?
We've got a lil cable Nick rigged up :)
Wait... 4 NVMe PCI-e 5.0 slots? Won't that kill the main slot for the GPU in terms of sucking needed performance?
Nah, I believe the top one is the only one at the top is controlled by the CPU. The rest come from the chipset. AMD built it in natively which I appreciate. The bandwidth keeps it from having to share too many lanes with the GPU.
Honestly even the 4090 has very little difference between running on gen 3 vs gen 4. We will probably have moved on to AM6 by the time we actually have anything the requires gen 5.
@@theyoungjawn wrong
@@theyoungjawn This board is shit. If you use either of the 2nd or 3rd 5.0 M.2 slots it drops the GPU to x8 at 5.0 (essentially 4.0x16). What a joke. They should have just pulled some 4.0 lanes off the chip and ditched a few USB or something. Here's from the board page:
* The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU slots share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot. When the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU slot is populated, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode.
@@brussell0001 you are also wrong lmao, having a gen 5 slot running at x8 like you said is the same as a gen 4 x16 and even with the 4090 it doesnt even come close to using the full bandwidth of a gen 4 pcie x16 slot, MAYBE the rtx 6xxx series might need a full pcie gen 5 x16 slot and thats a big maybe lol.
If you called them out on it I must have missed it. But I hate this board because of what it could have been. They had to drop all those 5.0 m.2 slots in there and they screwed the x16 gpu slot because of it. Why even got with an "E" board if you have to give up the 5.0 gpu slot which a gamer will utilize before they need 5.0 storage??!?!?? Here's from the mobo page:
* The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU slots share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot. When the M2B_CPU or M2C_CPU slot is populated, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode.
it doesn't make a difference even when gen 5 gpu's come out, the 4090 isnt even close to using up all the bandwidth in gen 4 pcie, MAYBE the rtx 6xxx series will either max out pcie 4.0 or maybe need a pcie 5.0 socket bandwidth
@@TheMessiah1337surely it means the PCIE slot now runs at x8 4.0, which isn’t ideal?
@@rare6499 the pcie 5 slot will run at x8 yes and that in turn is a pcie x16 bandwidth slot which is fine.
@@rare6499 not 'ideal' but is the 'sacrifice' even noticeable? GPU's currently have TONS of headroom on x16 PCIe 4.0 slots. Even a 4090 doesn't saturate all 16 lanes. I'd be surprised if it even saturated 9 of them. So taking 8 under-utilized lanes away from the GPU and re-purposing them is probably fine is it not?
Hi Nick, I have a specific question about the Gigabyte boards that you definitely know. Some boards come with a special cable so you can turn on the RGB lighting when you present the boards (for demo purpose). Like in your videos. My question: does this cable only have a USB connector (5V) or does it come with a power supply? If it comes with a power supply, could you tell me what the output voltage is on the power supply? Thank you.
how tf did u get the rgb to work with no power????
B650E AM is currently ~$100 less than x670E AM. So I just bought the X670 Elite AX instead ($340 with 10% VAT) which is $100 cheaper than B650E AM.
Is the sound shit? The alc897 is rubbing me the wrong way on the x670 elite ax.
Maybe when naming these new boards Gigabyte had a drunk darts game?
This is the board for me.. keeps my build under two grand. Not including a gpu atm.. will just use integrated graphics until gpus take a step down, unless this board doeant have integrated graphics..
Price is scam level in Europe as well, 500EUR ...
Thats expensive
Can you do the Asus Rog Strix B650e-e gaming wifi?
Get better soon, Nick!
Would love this board but I keep reading about so many black screen problems with it and frankly I don’t fancy taking part in a £400+ lottery.
It was discontinued, I liked it more than the x670 version.
Where did you read about these problems?
when higher ddr5 speeds come out, will it support those as well or just the current 6666mhz?
AMD said sweetspot for zen 4 is 6000mhz. More then that is pointless
I'm contemplating buying the g-skill kit that's 6400 MHz cl32. You're telling me that that kit isn't worth it?
@@ertai222 yes, 6000mhz is zen 4 sweets spot. It's confirmed by AMD.
@@boboboy8189 I know that but there's no reason you can't go higher.
this board's rear I?O is lterally better than the X670E Aorus Master's. that board has the budget pin required clear cmos button and no Q-flash button. Gigabyte dropped the ball on X670. coming from my X570 Aorus Master the X670E has some weird downgraded features that even this B650 board didn't skimp on.
If 4xM.2 installed, how many PCIE lanes are available to the GPU?
@Charlotte Rose King thanks for the info
Nick can you tell me where you get this glorious sign for GS behind you in the opening scene? Id love one for my business man
Intel gifted it to us!
This board is $495 at Canada Computers atm.
I'm more like why are the cheapest B650 boards 300+ $.
I paid for Asus Strix B550-E when it came out 220$ and that's a high end B550 board.
Bro it's not 300$, it's 189$ from Asrock riptide PG but no wifi though
@@boboboy8189 I'm in EU and I have yet to see a B650 board below 300$
670 or 650 it really doesn't matter what number it is one thing is for certain it's overpriced for what it is $649 for a motherboard really AMD did I miss the memo where everyone is meant to be rich -_-
It's not amd, Intel motherboard manufacturer. AMD said cheapest board is 125$ but cheapest one is 179$
sad that you cant test how it handles the new cpus and rams
great overview video, cant wait for the custom water cooling build videos 😀👍
As Chef from Shouth Park would say: Tree Fiddy? Tree Fiddy!!! Get outta hea you damn Lock Nes Monsta!
Also, the GPU auto eject lever is a "feature" of the motherboard ;)
Somebody that actually knows from experience, what is the video speed loss when going from 16 lanes of pcie to 8 lanes? I'm thinking about this exact board because I want to send 4 m.2 ssd cards directly to the cpu. The other question is how to deal with the heat from 4 pcie-5 cards in those slots.
PCIe lane capacity is currently well ahead of graphics card ability to saturate them, by several years for Gen4 and maybe as much as 5-10 years for Gen5. As far as I'm aware, even a top of the line 4090 will only barely saturate x8 PCIe 4.0 lanes. We don't yet have graphics cards that can even fully utilize 16 full PCIe 4.0 lanes, and yet we're already moving on to 5.0 slots which have double the transfer rate of 4.0. That all being said, dropping a GPU slot from x16 to x8 isn't going to have a huge impact on performance. The performance loss would be roughly of 2-3%, but hell I would personally be willing to take a small hit like that to get extra m.2 5.0 slots.
But as far as your cooling question goes: a lot of motherboards, including the one in this video, are beefing up their on-board heat shields for ssd's. But even if the MB heat shield isn't enough, lots of 5.0 m.2 ssd's are starting to come out with MASSIVE heat sinks built directly onto the drive. Hell one of Cosair's 5.0 m.2's has the option of a radiator and miniature blower fan attached to the ssd!
The question should be the opposite: NO B series motherboard should EVER be more expensive than the X series counterpart, yet you've proven that at least one does so, and yet has inferior qualities, not necessarily in construction, but in features and functionality, yet it costs more than a few X series motherboards....WHY? FOR WHAT? THICKER PLASTIC? IS THE MOTHERBOARD MADE OF 100% PURE UNOBTANIUM? CAN IT BE USED AS A LAUNCH PAD FOR THE NEXT DRAGON SPACE LAUNCH? CAN IT SEAL THE HULL OF A NUCLEAR SUB?
It damn well better do something for almost the same price as a half-decent X series board.
Well the Aorus Master X670E counterpart will cost even more...
New tech will cost higher price. Look at intel Z700 series if you not believing me
First i thought corse only 2 sata, but this seems to have it all
$472 US at time of posting this. My ASRock X670E Steel Legend $289 US.
I wonder if this would fit in a Corsair 4000D airflow with a 280 Aio at the top... 🤔 Great video as always, thanks!
Works great!
Though go for a 360mm for ryzen 9 chips.
Can only front mount 360 for 4000d. Top mount 280 only works with low profile ram some boards might be tricky will have to check this one too and is good enough for any of the rysen 9 cpu. If using i9 13900k i would power limit it to 253 watts on motherboard in a 4000d system.
it doesn't have 2 USB 3.2 headers for the front of the case that I have.
yeah for it to be called master, i would have wanted two 3.2's too. my o11 dynamic evo, i have two front io sets, i'm on a x570s aorus master, and it has two 3.2's (with a usb-c pcie adapter), so both io kits work. same with the b550 aorus "pro" ac. pro, and it doesn't have a front usb-c header. come on gigabyte!
Can you actually buy the thunderbolt card/cable?
Make a review video on this motherboard
Anyone know if the software problems have been fixed? I heard there's problems with firmware and 4090 support
I have this board and a gigabyte 4090 gaming oc. With the first revision bios it worked straight away. Only after a month or two did i have 1 instance where i got a weird bug where i had the black screen and some post code error after trying a system restart. Can't remember exactly which one though. Power off, unplug, reset cmos and reseating of gpu fixed the problem and has been running fine ever since.
Not a bad looking board. Great overview bro
Budget board LMAO 🤣🤣👍
I agree that motherboard prices are ridiculous but I don't recall this hate towards Intel when Asus releases a $2k "Glacial" Mobo.
it's enthusiast motherboard for enthusiasts mate, cannot count for the general market.
@@baoquoc3710 Saying those boards are for enthusiasts is like saying the $150k range rover is for avid offroaders. Im sure 99% of people buying those boards not because of "enthusiast" reason
For people looking to save money but want the same i/o: the x570s boards are essentially the same minus the am5 socket. A lot of the S boards should have 4 nvme slots. Head to microcenter and grab a 5000 series during this black Friday month sale.
X670e exist because b650 doesn't have 2 usb3.0 headers...
Thanks to a collection of case badges, i play at 144fps in 16k !
4 m2 slots, but you only get 1 screw to mount the long m2's. nice job nitpickers. good board but i'll give a negative review for that. i hope saving 0,0001 cents was worth it gigabyte
Great video!
leave it to aorus to make the absolute most insane stuff.
I have this motherboard paired with Ryzen 7950x and I get black screens when I put the CPU under heavy load with benchmarks like Corona render and Prime95 (Small FFTs). I have a 360 AIO cooler so the CPU is cooled very well. I also I tried all the BIOSes and also changed every component except for the CPU and the motherboard. It looks like there's an issue with this motherboard since the CPU works perfectly fine if I don't put it at 100% load. Other users on Gigabyte's Reddit are also complaining of the same issue (the thread is "Need Help with B650E Aorus Master"). I wasted so much time and money to troubleshoot the problem without success. I'm extremely disappointed with Gigabyte's quality control and will be returning the motherboard. This was my first and last Gigabyte purchase.
Real shame because the board looks great aesthetically and feature wise.
@@rare6499 Yea, I thought the same. Great looks and features, but quality control is poor. Just get another board even if its a bit more expensive. The time and hassle you'll save yourself troubleshooting and RMA'ing will be worth it, trust me.
@@bgtubber what did you go with as a replacement?
@@rare6499 The store I got the mobo from are still RMA'ing it. They said they'll receive a new batch of the same board in the next couple of days that _allegedly_ shouldn't have this issue. If it still does, they will let me choose another mobo. If the latter happens, I will probably go with ASUS B650E-E Gaming.
@@bgtubber jeez you’ve been waiting a month with no board? What a nightmare!
560 EUR here in Europe
£440 on preorder from OCUK. Edit: That's still 20% more expensive than my X570 which is pretty bonkers.
650 EUR/USD here in Europe, I don't know what these people are smoking, immediately lost any interest on the video, good luck with that.
Mindfactory has it for 456€, about 150€ over what I would be willing to pay
@@pietrmuffei8874 theres a bundle in which u can buy the board and the 7700x and get a 69€ discount + 50€ cashback from gigabyte
Aourus master for master price...
@@bendover5042 I bought a b660 with Cashback about 4 months ago and never got my Cashback so i don’t go for those deals no more
dam son thats cool but theres no way that is budget lol video looks great like always
649 AUD are you having a laugh
The only thing the x670 has over this board is a DP for onboard graphics vs a HDMI port on the B650. It loses everywhere else. So why does the X670 cost more? It's actually quite trash. It's almost as if the X670 was rushed out. The IO shield doesn't even line up with the garbage tier clear CMOS button on the rear. Yeah I'd rather buy this board but tbh I'd rather skip this entire CPU generation.
the cheapest one i seen so far is about $450 in aussie dollars
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nope. no overpriced Gigabyte board for me
For that price, no thanks. Absurd.
Great video! This is what I see in the AMD, they decided to go with the newest generation, DDR5, and the not-released M.2 5th generation which is why you have a large heatsink to cool it down.
people are going to purchase the motherboards but will not upgrade them because the platform AM5 socket for the 7000 is just 4 years only, And the price people paid for motherboards. People are just going to upgrade to the newest AMD CPU AM5 socket that comes out. I think motherboard sales will drop for AMD due to the price of the AM5 socketed chipset.
AMD will have 4 years to use the AM5 socket. And when the 4 years are up they will change the socket to AM6. and buy new motherboards all over again.
Is Gigabyate's RGB still a POS?
everyone complains for years! my rgb fusion has been bug free since i ever started using it. never had problems, always stable.
Sounds good if you don't want to spend 800$ in a mb.
it is a B board with a prise of Z
That doesn't make sense
Just ordered this to go with a 7700X. Thanks for the great video!
@TORIS I was looking at that one too! I really wanted the Asus Gene but 5 hundo for a mobo is rough
Sick just got this aswell with a 7950 can't wait
hey mate how is the motherboard working out for you, I'm looking at it for the 7700x too
@TORIS oh lol hood luck man, i meant to ask @C 137 guy with the aorus master
bit overkill for 7700x
Jesus christ I got my goddamn Z690 Asus Extreme for $400 what Crack are they smoking with these new mb prices
Inflation.
i got a giabyte z690 gaming X z690 ddr4 for 250 usd
Im glad i got asus prime z390 m plus back in 2020 right when pandemic covid started but prices wew still ok ish im running i7 9700kf 32 gb ram on it and it works fine .Price : around 150$
The Strix Z690 Gaming is only for about 250-300$ right now in the market
as always great video
Cant like the video this time as there's no text on the screen about which model we are talking about and there's no info in the description. I need to waste time to understand if this video is relevant to me or not. Step up your editing, man. Otherwise really cool content.
It's IN THE THUMBNAIL and it's mentioned in the video like 50 times. Step your watching and listening game up.
@@GearSeekers still, if I miss the thumbnail or its too small to read and If I am not native speaker and I all hear is b6something master it means that your videos are lacking editing. None of the channels that have million subs has this issue, they use text on screen. Learn to take a critique and improve your game rather than being mad about it.