Thanks for spending the money so that the rest of us don't have to! I really hope Apple will take advice, like those given in this video, to heart and improve the product. I can definitely see myself considering the product (even at that price) if all the mentioned issues are addressed. Great video!
The impression I have gotten from the reviews is that the Vision Pro is a super iPad, as you say. Just like the iPad it has a few code editors and even a git client. It can do zoom and slack. But, until it can open a shell window it can only supplement. For those that run their code in the cloud, it might be a primary device. It needs a top notch IDE though. It might be fun to port Zed to it.
Thanks for giving this a thorough review as a software engineer, Utsav. Not because of you, but the AVP seems like it really doesn't provide anything revolutionary or dramatic for software engineers at this time. Not allowing multiple screens for a single OS or having Remote Desktop + macOS running is a major letdown and unless app developers really make their apps 1st class citizens for the AVP....I just don't see the productivity gains for software engineers. Most of what you mentioned can be accomplished with a phone or a tablet alongside of your laptop without much of a dropoff. Maybe v2 or v3 will be dramatic enough. But doesn't seem like it's there yet.
I’m pretty sure you can use many coding platforms through many browser windows that is the equivalent of having multiple monitors. You can also have your mail app open as a window. You can have up to 5 desktops on your Mac and switch between those desktops with a three finger swipe, so that’s also equivalent to having multiple monitors to an extent. Also, with a 70+ inch screen, you can fit many more windows on one desktop than usual and be able to interact with them well
Also, you can run a Virtual Machine running Windows on one Desktop and switch between desktops to work on both operating systems. You may be able to use your iPad as a second monitor through augmented reality mode too
I’m just trying to help you get your money’s worth to help use the AVP to its full potential. The main thing is that the AVP has better hardware than any other virtual reality device by far. That means it has much more potential than the meta quest and other headsets, we’ll have to wait for developers to make more native apps to fully realize it. You could be one of them, good luck! 😃
I like the CTA button -- click to get poor. What I would like for Apple Vision Pro is for Apple to eventually get rid of it -- with a far superior technology where they can create some invisible screen/filter that you can summon on any wall -- perhaps beamed from the Vision Pro or a projector -- similar to what was in The Minority Report. But I did try it -- and am impressed with the 3D immersive experience. Question, though: How does one even develop an app for it? I hope you can tackle this next video.
You described exactly how I feel about this product. It is great technology, but not worth the costs. I have been using Quest and xreal when I travel for years. Both of them support three (or 5 with immersedVR on Quest) virtual monitors. That is a huge miss for Apple. I am sure they will add it, but even more important is lowering the price. Once the initial purchase passes (those that are willing to buy any and everything that Apple sells), I can't imagine this ever reaching critical purchase levels to support its continued development. I just don't think that many people will shell out 3500.00 for this product. As beautiful as it looks, it just doesn't bring enough to justify 7x the cost of a Quest while delivering less possibility (currently).
I couldn’t agree more. Cheaper versions will come for sure (depending on adoption signals from this one). This (the expensive) one end up becoming to the max or the ultra that allows serious workflows, perhaps even an OS version close to the MacOS.
Why has nobody tried Code-Server in a safari window without using your mac at all? The future as I see it is not tethering your mac, but using the AVP and its apps natively to work. I don’t want to take my laptop with me at all. In fact I do this with the iPad right now.
It's completely unacceptable that you can't run xCode directtly on the Vision Pro, or any macApp. How can it be a "spacial computer," when you can't even run development software on it? Part of the excitement of this was being able to develop on multiple virtual screens and get rid of my desktop. Guess I'll have to wait for when they decide to stop handicapping it like they do the ipad.
Most of the youtubers made it seem like flowless device and I knew there are tons of everyday things that you can't do with it right now. Thank you for sharing this and I hope we get more honest reviews like this.
amazing video 🔥🔥 but if it is possible to make video about DSA there is no a perfect way to learn dsa and where if possible then please make thanks t🙏🏻🙏🏻
Honest and right to the point. Great video. I'm just getting into the Mac eco system after decades in Linux. Love your channel and looking forward to more videos. PS - love your lifestyle, Titan and your accent creeping in ever so often. Love and hugs from another Indian software engineer
The one thing I need for the purchase to be justified is the ability to just carry the Vision Pro as well as my keyboard and mouse and that’s it. I should be able to put on the headset, take out my keyboard and mouse, and be able to open 2-3 displays. 1 for my coding IDE or something like Vim. 2. For safari/chrome to use as a reference, and then something for tracking my time or a to-do checklist. Now the real question is, how would I then get the code out there to the world? Aside from Git… what if I want to just export an .py or .exe file for my client to use? What if I want a database of all my old coding projects easily accessible from a folder? Seems to me Apple thought of every cool gimmick out there but not of what people would actually use this thing for. What I’m trying to say is that it’s cool, but it’s not a productivity machine. The fact that you have to bring your MacBook just to have an desktop environment is silly. That’s just my 2 cents. As such, I’ll be waiting until v2 where hopefully it’s a bit more developer friendly.
Hopefully in they can quickly add multi screens for the Mac. Ideally I would love a screen that filled 120 to 180 degrees of Vision Pro , like 16000 x 6000 pixel screen. I run modelling apps and physical screen size has always been an issue, my 5k2k ultra wide isn’t big enough.
Keeping the macbook screen off while casting makes sense because it's difficult to look at the screen thru vision pro. But agreed, multiple screen casting will be nice, hopefully apple will support it soon.
Why the heck should anyone type any texts in VR including code ? What's the point of VR usage for flat sheet of text ? Or you have some kind of 3D spatial IDE/software for coding in 3D we never heard about before ? Vision Pro is for _creating_ future spatial software to be used on upcoming lightweight AR glasses. If you got your VisionPro and you try to work on it, it's EXACTLY like getting CNC for car building and trying to drive on CNC itself instead of future car you could build with it. When Apple told you about "working" in Vision Pro - it's ALWAYS only about communication and discussion with others about something already MADE before the meeting started. We just got Vision Pro and whole software/hardware ecosystem. And NOW we might start to build software for this new reality. To be used IN FUTURE when all this software will be DONE AND READY to behave in VR and use its advantage. (including IDEs and coding tools). If you continue to think in flat screen paradigm but now these screens are just floating all around in space for some reason - you're lost the whole point of AR/VR and it's a great moment to return your VisionPro because you don't need it. Go buy additional monitor(s) instead. You'll have the same result.
People must stop using this too much. this will affect your eyesight. I have been using a Samsung VR for some time. it's not great for your eyes. it is better to wait until someone finds a way to integrate into our brains directly. Anyone over 35 years old will know it's harmful to their eyes when they remove it after a long session. I don't see any of the RUclipsrs saying about this. no one cares about the common public health other than their pocket. this tech won't work safely for humans until this works with our brain directly something like a headset is shown in the Amazon series 'THE PERIPHERALS'. Our eyesight is more expensive than any VR headset even if it's from APPLE.
I get motion sickness with it, unfortunately. The field of view is very narrow, and I feel claustrophobia. I hope the next version fixes a lot of the issues you mentioned.
Apple's vision involves incorporating features that have already been introduced in other devices such as Magic Leap and Meta Quest. However, Apple's entry into the market is tardy and may not have longevity due to the high price point. While Apple's debut may have made a significant impact, it may be short-lived as compared to Meta Quest, which is available at a more reasonable price point of $399, making it a more viable option for consumers.
I'm addicted to this content. I recently read a similar book, and I was completely addicted. "Mastering AWS: A Software Engineers Guide" by Nathan Vale
Well i can see the blur clearly 😂 . I wondered when you said it doesnt have such issue . Coz i have it on my vp and you also have it ( watch your video will find it easily ). And i think you already know it has this issue . Thx
Finally, a fair/balanced review pointing out the drawbacks of Vision Pro. So many people go googoo gaagaa because it is an Apple product but in the end, if it is not increasing productivity and offer something that nothing can do (disruptor), it is just a cool gadget - that's it. Every other product - MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod, iwatch filled a void immediately after launch. IMO, Vision Pro does not.
As a software engineer myself, for the price of the Apple Vision Pro you could buy 2 ThinkVision 49 inch Ultra-Wide Monitor - P49w-30 have have everything you need open in one monitor. Or just spend around $120 on a used Quest. Or buy 6 Quest 3 in witch does more. Amazing how Apple is scamming so many people on this old technology. Other VR goggle that are support light are also available. The UX of Apple Vision is a horrible implementation by using the eyes to trigger things, it will be to a point that your eye balls will pop out. The Quest 3 is just amazing and it does more. Apple needs to stop using the eyes to activate things, it must track hands and less use the eyes. When designing things, you always will be looking around the screen, and you CAN NOT allow the eyes to trigger things that may end up closing, skiping, opening, etc behind the scenes. Also, the POV of the Apple Vision Pro is less than the Quest 2 and Quest 3. Resolution is not enough is the POV is less than a $120 goggle that does 90% or more than the Apple Vision Pre does.
I would still stick to my long standing rule about Apple products: go for the second and later generations only. The only time I broke the rule with my MacBook Pro 16” 2021 has penalized me from connecting to a 5120x1440 display without support for native resolution. Any M2-based Mac is free from this issue.😢
Finally, a fair/balanced review pointing out the drawbacks of Vision Pro. So many people go googoo gaagaa because it is an Apple product but in the end, if it is not increasing productivity and offer something that nothing can do (disruptor), it is just a cool gadget - that's it. Every other product - MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod, iwatch filled a void immediately after launch. IMO, Vision Pro does not.
I bought a quest 2 primarily to play games on it. After having some neck pain issues from looking down at my screen I decided to use my Quest 2 as a monitor and its been amazing. If i could afford a vision pro id definitely get it specifically for productivity as i can have my "monitor" anywhere at any time.
Awesome video but I’ve noticed a common issue with all devs reviewing the AVP. You lot need to change the mentality around the device. All the research, sites, books references and diagrams should be opened from the AVP side. Only your main tool should be on the Mac, in my case Xcode. Slack, Prompt and Figma are always pinned into somewhere inside my headset and when jumping into meetings, I’m happy enough to be able to use Freeform as the whiteboard. The personas are only weird on the beginning and they’re great to carry small emotions across the call. Again, awesome video and it’s a shame that it didn’t work for you. My advice is to look at videos of people migrating their flow to the iPad.
Thanks for the great video. 🙏 Apple Vision Pro is not Pro, but it can be for some professionals, maybe in 2030 and after hiring new designers and developers.
Oooh thank you for the informative review. I love writing code on a wall, with a projector (no windows though;), and I was wondering if this device could improve on that, and it looks like a strong “maybe almost.” I think I’ll let this shake out and mature a bit for now. Thank you for the review!
A pretty cool use case is web dev: you can open safari of the vision pro and point it to your laptop! Reference: ruclips.net/video/29BiwmNMRcQ/видео.htmlsi=TcuFZG68IqS4dAri&t=380 Super interesting iteration on VR, hoping it's get developed and improved further... mainly regarding the price point😂
Utsav, love your video. Really hope Apple listens and improve the Vision Pro. On the side note though, the filter/color grading you use on your video is a bit difficult to watch. It's almost like there is a constant haze the entire video. I think most viewers will appreciate the clearer view.
Nice try. Just wonder if that strained your eyes for extended period of time using Vision Pro, especially you might need to focus on small things on screen in coding.
All you get is one wagyu steak cooked to perfection in an amazing environment that lets you focus on your meal with unlimited side dishes. Yes, but I want two.
As a software dev this confused me... you are obviously able to render your code editor on a unique screen in the vision space. Is it the case that the IDE itself is not resident on the visor so compiling really can't be done or is it that you're mirroring the mac to the visor?
Just mirroring your Mac screen. You cannot tap into the Vision Pro for any compiling at all… unless they release apps (say a native ide) in the future that can actually do that.
Can’t you use lots of coding platforms on your browser? You can have pretty much unlimited windows open floating around and they stay where you pin them. That’s the equivalent of having multiple monitors
Hey UItsav, loved your video! On a side note, can you teach how to build large scale application in python... I see that you were building some ML tools in python. Please try and make a tutorial series maybe. I loved that you were using static methods, asserts etc... These are important for people to realize that we can build large tools in Python
@@danielteeny I have a Magic Trackpad and Keyboard hooked up directly to the AVP and it works even better than the performance I am getting with the Mac.
Great video! I think I will wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen. I can't afford to upgrade at that price and need something a little more robust and usable such as multi screens, more apps etc
Most documentation is available on the web. You can open multiple browser windows along with the virtual laptop screen. There’s a long delay when compiling and loading even a very simple visionOS app, so iteration can be a pain.
I agree with everything you said about the Apple Vision Pro. I was hoping they’d make it a device people could do actual software engineering work on as a stand alone computer but instead Apple decided to give engineers a gimped experience and it now costs $7k entry fee to do software development for and with the Apple Vision Pro. Engineers are the most likely user base for the AVP but Apple decided this productivity device is not for engineers. They need to give us terminal access even if its sandboxed and allow XCode to run on the Apple Vision Pro.
With enough adoption and how efficient the M chips are, I think that will come after a few iterations where they may have something like Vision Air, Vision Pro and Vision Max … and allow the Max to be more for the dev scenarios. Well, that’s at least the hope :)
Thanks for spending the money so that the rest of us don't have to! I really hope Apple will take advice, like those given in this video, to heart and improve the product. I can definitely see myself considering the product (even at that price) if all the mentioned issues are addressed.
Great video!
The impression I have gotten from the reviews is that the Vision Pro is a super iPad, as you say. Just like the iPad it has a few code editors and even a git client. It can do zoom and slack. But, until it can open a shell window it can only supplement. For those that run their code in the cloud, it might be a primary device. It needs a top notch IDE though. It might be fun to port Zed to it.
It feels like a view master with an iPad like UI, but apps open in their own instances if that makes sense. Kind of like a menu you spawn things from.
Thanks for giving this a thorough review as a software engineer, Utsav. Not because of you, but the AVP seems like it really doesn't provide anything revolutionary or dramatic for software engineers at this time. Not allowing multiple screens for a single OS or having Remote Desktop + macOS running is a major letdown and unless app developers really make their apps 1st class citizens for the AVP....I just don't see the productivity gains for software engineers. Most of what you mentioned can be accomplished with a phone or a tablet alongside of your laptop without much of a dropoff. Maybe v2 or v3 will be dramatic enough. But doesn't seem like it's there yet.
Agree
I’m pretty sure you can use many coding platforms through many browser windows that is the equivalent of having multiple monitors. You can also have your mail app open as a window. You can have up to 5 desktops on your Mac and switch between those desktops with a three finger swipe, so that’s also equivalent to having multiple monitors to an extent.
Also, with a 70+ inch screen, you can fit many more windows on one desktop than usual and be able to interact with them well
Also, you can run a Virtual Machine running Windows on one Desktop and switch between desktops to work on both operating systems. You may be able to use your iPad as a second monitor through augmented reality mode too
I’m just trying to help you get your money’s worth to help use the AVP to its full potential. The main thing is that the AVP has better hardware than any other virtual reality device by far. That means it has much more potential than the meta quest and other headsets, we’ll have to wait for developers to make more native apps to fully realize it. You could be one of them, good luck! 😃
I like the CTA button -- click to get poor.
What I would like for Apple Vision Pro is for Apple to eventually get rid of it -- with a far superior technology where they can create some invisible screen/filter that you can summon on any wall -- perhaps beamed from the Vision Pro or a projector -- similar to what was in The Minority Report. But I did try it -- and am impressed with the 3D immersive experience.
Question, though: How does one even develop an app for it? I hope you can tackle this next video.
Agreed. I think we will eventually see much more affordable versions as the app ecosystem matures and the tech becomes a bit more mainstream.
You described exactly how I feel about this product. It is great technology, but not worth the costs. I have been using Quest and xreal when I travel for years. Both of them support three (or 5 with immersedVR on Quest) virtual monitors. That is a huge miss for Apple. I am sure they will add it, but even more important is lowering the price. Once the initial purchase passes (those that are willing to buy any and everything that Apple sells), I can't imagine this ever reaching critical purchase levels to support its continued development. I just don't think that many people will shell out 3500.00 for this product. As beautiful as it looks, it just doesn't bring enough to justify 7x the cost of a Quest while delivering less possibility (currently).
I couldn’t agree more. Cheaper versions will come for sure (depending on adoption signals from this one). This (the expensive) one end up becoming to the max or the ultra that allows serious workflows, perhaps even an OS version close to the MacOS.
Parallels will allow for macOS plus windows at the same time with coherence
Immersed for quest 3 has 5 screens available...
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Why has nobody tried Code-Server in a safari window without using your mac at all? The future as I see it is not tethering your mac, but using the AVP and its apps natively to work. I don’t want to take my laptop with me at all. In fact I do this with the iPad right now.
i tried. it works. but it’s not comfortable
What is the audio interface you're rocking? Silver witht he dial.
Looks pretty sweet but can't find it in your links or make out the name. Thanks!
Universal Audio Apollo
Is parsec available? Or have you tried to use steam link desktop mode? Can you do a video of this?
Utsav, pretty soon, Apple will reveal the Software Engineer Dongle! And you know how much that will cost, right?
It will certainly be more expensive than the cheap dongle jokes
@@retrocomputing Wow! I can only imagine the expensive dongle jokes! I will never afford one!
Unique thoughts as a software developer! Would love to see the features in Vision Pro
what keyboard is that at 0:48?
Place price
Essentially coding with a smartphone. FUN
As a software engineer, I have the same expectation as you mentioned in the video: several displays taken out from a connected MacBook.
It's completely unacceptable that you can't run xCode directtly on the Vision Pro, or any macApp. How can it be a "spacial computer," when you can't even run development software on it?
Part of the excitement of this was being able to develop on multiple virtual screens and get rid of my desktop. Guess I'll have to wait for when they decide to stop handicapping it like they do the ipad.
Most of the youtubers made it seem like flowless device and I knew there are tons of everyday things that you can't do with it right now.
Thank you for sharing this and I hope we get more honest reviews like this.
Hardware as usual is too great but software lacks. Same thing I faced with iPad pro. It's not a standalone compute unit.
remote desktop would be WONDERFUL!
Did he not scroll through all the remote desktop apps within the store, also Luna display is an option?
thanks for the review! looking forward to write some code with it in the future
Waste of money
amazing video 🔥🔥
but if it is possible to make video about DSA
there is no a perfect way to learn dsa and where if possible then please make thanks t🙏🏻🙏🏻
What about health issues like eye?
They'll get destroyed. But no to worry, everything's been foreseen. Neural implants are coming. Where you're going you won't need eyes to see.
Honest and right to the point. Great video. I'm just getting into the Mac eco system after decades in Linux. Love your channel and looking forward to more videos.
PS - love your lifestyle, Titan and your accent creeping in ever so often.
Love and hugs from another Indian software engineer
This is the review I have been looking for over the last week. Thanks
Ive been using the xreal air glasses for coding and i love it. I can have a huge portable screen anywhere i go
Thanks for the review. It's very helpful.
I have a pair of Xreal air glasses. It's not bad. None of these device are ready but I'm optimistic about the future.
Thanks for the honest review! Great video!
The one thing I need for the purchase to be justified is the ability to just carry the Vision Pro as well as my keyboard and mouse and that’s it. I should be able to put on the headset, take out my keyboard and mouse, and be able to open 2-3 displays. 1 for my coding IDE or something like Vim. 2. For safari/chrome to use as a reference, and then something for tracking my time or a to-do checklist. Now the real question is, how would I then get the code out there to the world? Aside from Git… what if I want to just export an .py or .exe file for my client to use? What if I want a database of all my old coding projects easily accessible from a folder? Seems to me Apple thought of every cool gimmick out there but not of what people would actually use this thing for. What I’m trying to say is that it’s cool, but it’s not a productivity machine. The fact that you have to bring your MacBook just to have an desktop environment is silly. That’s just my 2 cents. As such, I’ll be waiting until v2 where hopefully it’s a bit more developer friendly.
Hopefully in they can quickly add multi screens for the Mac. Ideally I would love a screen that filled 120 to 180 degrees of Vision Pro , like 16000 x 6000 pixel screen. I run modelling apps and physical screen size has always been an issue, my 5k2k ultra wide isn’t big enough.
Keeping the macbook screen off while casting makes sense because it's difficult to look at the screen thru vision pro. But agreed, multiple screen casting will be nice, hopefully apple will support it soon.
$3500 and the narrative says is much better than a home teather. Men go buy some earbuds better. You will save over $3000
Why the heck should anyone type any texts in VR including code ? What's the point of VR usage for flat sheet of text ? Or you have some kind of 3D spatial IDE/software for coding in 3D we never heard about before ? Vision Pro is for _creating_ future spatial software to be used on upcoming lightweight AR glasses. If you got your VisionPro and you try to work on it, it's EXACTLY like getting CNC for car building and trying to drive on CNC itself instead of future car you could build with it. When Apple told you about "working" in Vision Pro - it's ALWAYS only about communication and discussion with others about something already MADE before the meeting started. We just got Vision Pro and whole software/hardware ecosystem. And NOW we might start to build software for this new reality. To be used IN FUTURE when all this software will be DONE AND READY to behave in VR and use its advantage. (including IDEs and coding tools). If you continue to think in flat screen paradigm but now these screens are just floating all around in space for some reason - you're lost the whole point of AR/VR and it's a great moment to return your VisionPro because you don't need it. Go buy additional monitor(s) instead. You'll have the same result.
Stream Link for pc streaming works nice and allows eye tracking (by way of virtual touchscreen mouse), a silly way to work but fun!
People must stop using this too much. this will affect your eyesight. I have been using a Samsung VR for some time. it's not great for your eyes. it is better to wait until someone finds a way to integrate into our brains directly. Anyone over 35 years old will know it's harmful to their eyes when they remove it after a long session. I don't see any of the RUclipsrs saying about this. no one cares about the common public health other than their pocket. this tech won't work safely for humans until this works with our brain directly something like a headset is shown in the Amazon series 'THE PERIPHERALS'. Our eyesight is more expensive than any VR headset even if it's from APPLE.
I get motion sickness with it, unfortunately. The field of view is very narrow, and I feel claustrophobia. I hope the next version fixes a lot of the issues you mentioned.
Apple's vision involves incorporating features that have already been introduced in other devices such as Magic Leap and Meta Quest. However, Apple's entry into the market is tardy and may not have longevity due to the high price point. While Apple's debut may have made a significant impact, it may be short-lived as compared to Meta Quest, which is available at a more reasonable price point of $399, making it a more viable option for consumers.
I'm addicted to this content. I recently read a similar book, and I was completely addicted. "Mastering AWS: A Software Engineers Guide" by Nathan Vale
Well i can see the blur clearly 😂 . I wondered when you said it doesnt have such issue . Coz i have it on my vp and you also have it ( watch your video will find it easily ). And i think you already know it has this issue . Thx
high res + high precision hand tracking + 360 Omni Directional Treadmill it will be the ultimate device for any VR game.
Thank you so much for the video. It was exactly what I needed as a software engineer.
Need my two monitors and my keyboard to bang. That doesn't look normal for coding. Maybe for entertainment purposes.
tbh the headset seems much like a very expensive toy with no real value add, something you're probably not really going to use in your everyday life
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by the time all these updates you want for coding comes, AI would have already taken over most of coding
I’m so pumped for visionOS 2.0s 180 degree wrap around Mac display
Finally, a fair/balanced review pointing out the drawbacks of Vision Pro. So many people go googoo gaagaa because it is an Apple product but in the end, if it is not increasing productivity and offer something that nothing can do (disruptor), it is just a cool gadget - that's it. Every other product - MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod, iwatch filled a void immediately after launch. IMO, Vision Pro does not.
Some people have said it has increased their productivity though, so I’m not sure I understand your comment.
such headsets are generally uncomfortable while wearing, otherwise software engineers would not be needing multiple screen after using vision pro
But the IMMERSED app can do the same for 1/7 the price using Q3.
once it hits EU and RD client will be available, I think I will invest in this Vision Pro!
As a software engineer myself, for the price of the Apple Vision Pro you could buy 2 ThinkVision 49 inch Ultra-Wide Monitor - P49w-30 have have everything you need open in one monitor. Or just spend around $120 on a used Quest. Or buy 6 Quest 3 in witch does more. Amazing how Apple is scamming so many people on this old technology. Other VR goggle that are support light are also available. The UX of Apple Vision is a horrible implementation by using the eyes to trigger things, it will be to a point that your eye balls will pop out. The Quest 3 is just amazing and it does more. Apple needs to stop using the eyes to activate things, it must track hands and less use the eyes. When designing things, you always will be looking around the screen, and you CAN NOT allow the eyes to trigger things that may end up closing, skiping, opening, etc behind the scenes. Also, the POV of the Apple Vision Pro is less than the Quest 2 and Quest 3. Resolution is not enough is the POV is less than a $120 goggle that does 90% or more than the Apple Vision Pre does.
idk about coding with that giant thing on your head, after one hour, you'll probably get a headache or get annoyed
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$3500. 1 screen. Apple doesn't deserve that love.
thanks!, finally the video I was looking for :)
Dude just use second display no need to carry that heavy glass on your face..
I would still stick to my long standing rule about Apple products: go for the second and later generations only. The only time I broke the rule with my MacBook Pro 16” 2021 has penalized me from connecting to a 5120x1440 display without support for native resolution. Any M2-based Mac is free from this issue.😢
Finally, a fair/balanced review pointing out the drawbacks of Vision Pro. So many people go googoo gaagaa because it is an Apple product but in the end, if it is not increasing productivity and offer something that nothing can do (disruptor), it is just a cool gadget - that's it. Every other product - MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod, iwatch filled a void immediately after launch. IMO, Vision Pro does not.
I bought a quest 2 primarily to play games on it. After having some neck pain issues from looking down at my screen I decided to use my Quest 2 as a monitor and its been amazing. If i could afford a vision pro id definitely get it specifically for productivity as i can have my "monitor" anywhere at any time.
Vision Pro avatars look like drugged version of the users!
Awesome video but I’ve noticed a common issue with all devs reviewing the AVP. You lot need to change the mentality around the device. All the research, sites, books references and diagrams should be opened from the AVP side. Only your main tool should be on the Mac, in my case Xcode. Slack, Prompt and Figma are always pinned into somewhere inside my headset and when jumping into meetings, I’m happy enough to be able to use Freeform as the whiteboard. The personas are only weird on the beginning and they’re great to carry small emotions across the call.
Again, awesome video and it’s a shame that it didn’t work for you. My advice is to look at videos of people migrating their flow to the iPad.
Thanks for the great video. 🙏 Apple Vision Pro is not Pro, but it can be for some professionals, maybe in 2030 and after hiring new designers and developers.
Oooh thank you for the informative review. I love writing code on a wall, with a projector (no windows though;), and I was wondering if this device could improve on that, and it looks like a strong “maybe almost.” I think I’ll let this shake out and mature a bit for now. Thank you for the review!
“All you really get is a giant high resolution screen where you can be fully immersed in what you’re doing.”
So … that’s a bad thing?
A pretty cool use case is web dev:
you can open safari of the vision pro and point it to your laptop!
Reference: ruclips.net/video/29BiwmNMRcQ/видео.htmlsi=TcuFZG68IqS4dAri&t=380
Super interesting iteration on VR, hoping it's get developed and improved further... mainly regarding the price point😂
This is dumb, even for Apple fanboys
Utsav, love your video. Really hope Apple listens and improve the Vision Pro. On the side note though, the filter/color grading you use on your video is a bit difficult to watch. It's almost like there is a constant haze the entire video. I think most viewers will appreciate the clearer view.
Great video! Can you test Blink vccode server on vision pro please? It allow for multi window development on ipad (using a remote machine)
Nice try. Just wonder if that strained your eyes for extended period of time using Vision Pro, especially you might need to focus on small things on screen in coding.
All you get is one wagyu steak cooked to perfection in an amazing environment that lets you focus on your meal with unlimited side dishes.
Yes, but I want two.
The persona reminds me of how some faces look in dreams.
This feature will be added for extra 1000$
Thank you, I have been looking for this for a week, I'm still think it's a matter of time that Apple will make them work for developers.
As a software dev this confused me... you are obviously able to render your code editor on a unique screen in the vision space. Is it the case that the IDE itself is not resident on the visor so compiling really can't be done or is it that you're mirroring the mac to the visor?
Just mirroring your Mac screen. You cannot tap into the Vision Pro for any compiling at all… unless they release apps (say a native ide) in the future that can actually do that.
Can’t you use lots of coding platforms on your browser? You can have pretty much unlimited windows open floating around and they stay where you pin them. That’s the equivalent of having multiple monitors
Saved $4k thanks brother.
Yeah this was one of the things I wasn’t allowed to do…
Hey UItsav, loved your video! On a side note, can you teach how to build large scale application in python... I see that you were building some ML tools in python. Please try and make a tutorial series maybe. I loved that you were using static methods, asserts etc... These are important for people to realize that we can build large tools in Python
Thanks for posing . I wrote the first book on Apple Vision Pro and healthcare
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The iPad Jump app works great as a Remote Desktop client for AVP. I have it up and use it constantly.
What mouse input style are you using? I was trying to use it but found it pretty unusable… I wonder what I’m doing wrong.
@@danielteeny I have a Magic Trackpad and Keyboard hooked up directly to the AVP and it works even better than the performance I am getting with the Mac.
You can use duet display and luna display for having multiple windows desktops on the vision pro.
Please tell me what environment and language you use to code ? Do you use PyCharm and OpenCV ? Thank you
Isnt there some app called RDPLite or something (saw in another video)
Yep, it's too early to buy it for now.
It needs at least 3 monitors on it
Wish one can have unlimited displays when connected to a MacBook. Great video.
no! you'll have neck injury.
the video starts at... wait, no it doesn't start.
My friend got multiple screens out of his mac, something with the resolution.
Great video! I think I will wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen. I can't afford to upgrade at that price and need something a little more robust and usable such as multi screens, more apps etc
Most documentation is available on the web. You can open multiple browser windows along with the virtual laptop screen.
There’s a long delay when compiling and loading even a very simple visionOS app, so iteration can be a pain.
Use virtual box for window
Great review.. just saved me 4k
What about Vision Pro for Certified Ethical Hacking?
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Thank you for sharing this and I hope we get more honest reviews like this.
I'm a simple man, I see Utsav i give upvote.
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No, sir. Clearly you are a man of taste. I raise my glass to you and second your upvote.
I agree with everything you said about the Apple Vision Pro. I was hoping they’d make it a device people could do actual software engineering work on as a stand alone computer but instead Apple decided to give engineers a gimped experience and it now costs $7k entry fee to do software development for and with the Apple Vision Pro. Engineers are the most likely user base for the AVP but Apple decided this productivity device is not for engineers. They need to give us terminal access even if its sandboxed and allow XCode to run on the Apple Vision Pro.
With enough adoption and how efficient the M chips are, I think that will come after a few iterations where they may have something like Vision Air, Vision Pro and Vision Max … and allow the Max to be more for the dev scenarios. Well, that’s at least the hope :)
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