I'm not worried about GPU prices anymore because I've decided to only play and 8 and 16 bit retro games from the last century while remaining drunk. And maybe every now and then I'll check out how new games are going by watching mediocre Twitch streams.
I more or less settled with an RX 6800 about half a year ago. It's a good card, though I would have preferred an NVIDIA card. Lord knows I won't be able to afford one of those for a good while, though, let alone one with a decent amount of VRAM.
So in other words, ddr6 in 26. I’ve got my 12th gen 12600kf on a z690 board now using ddr4. Perhaps upgrade to a 13700/14700k and wait for ddr6 and zen 6-7 or intel what 16gh/17th gen.
I love that we only have a container "shortage" because the shipping companies REFUSE to pick up empties. We actually have TOO MANY containers but the shipping companies know they can just not pick them up and suddenly there is a "shortage" and they can jack up prices again.
Also places have have been selling containers for a dime a dozen or on the cheap and people have been building "container homes". So yeah, maybe id they pick their sheet up and stop selling them they wouldn'y have this problem.
@@graffiti73 Only the containers that are too expensive to repair or have gone past their hours of use are sold you go try buying a container that's only a week old and you'll not be able to get one
I hear that the problem is that the containers are all in the wrong places. And shipping an empty container is not much cheaper than shipping a container of goods. Therefore, if companies start to pick up empty containers and use them, all shipping would suddenly be twice the cost.
@@andyhu9542 Many of the containers are in destination locations like the EU or US and instead of picking these containers up and taking them back to east asia, they leave them at the ports and claim they are trying to keep to schedules. During the pandemic Maersk actually sent a vessel from east asia to the west coast US loaded and ONLY brought back empties so they could load. They don't do that now because they are making money on 7000 dollar per FEU moves and will only go back to transporting empties when forced to.
@@CMan-602 Oh yes, it's the Green New Deal that's to blame. Of course it is. I'm sure everything has a "blue" fault behind it for you and comes from sound bites.
Not only that, but the GPU i bought 2 years ago (4080) still costs more than my brand new 14900k, asus rog mobo, RAM, case and cooling(+ external fans) combined. The more you think about, the more insane it gets.
JEDEC should be put in charge of naming USB from now on...instead we get "this new motherboard has support for USB Type C gen3.2x2.1 Superspeed1x version 2.4 rev3"
They blame users for their ridiculous power connector. So next step will be drivers with DLC - you will lease some optional functionality and optimization. Then they will start blame gamers and lower Vram/spec and lift prices.
Nowadays, I think that it applies on everything. Because more than half the product I see are like that (aka., the more demand and sale of a product, the more it's price increases). And i believe this to be the key feature of current mass production system, with high market trend prediction analytics, which allows companies to predict when sale and demand would rise, allowing them to reduce production to maintain a high price.
There has been a shortage of sea containers since everyone went mental buying stuff online during covid. Last I heard, there was about 12M empties in the interior of the USA because it costs too much to get them back to the coast. About 6M are in Brazil for the same reasons. You guys need to get onto the federal govt and get them to sort out the tariffs and taxes for transporting empties back to the coast. (I work at a port and get info from shipping reps)
The RTX 5090 hums when you plug it in. A faint green glow emanates from its back plate. For some reason, the side of your body facing the tower, slowly adopts a rosy pink tint. And when you try to play _New World_ ....your 12pins connector start to smell like burning rubber. You also realize that when you power off your PC at night, the Microwave in your kitchen powers on.
i think someone took the shipping container homes way too much that when the regular trade volume resumed, they dont have enough containers for shipping as some got converted into homes...
@@ARealPain Nah, my wallet is fine. My brain won't let me pay 2500AUD for a 1200AUD GPU. During the crypto boom you could not get a GPU anywhere unless you bought it from a scalper. Same happened again during Batsoup19. I ended up buying a 3080 12GB for MSRP at the end of 22, and I had a 2080 to use until then, so I wasn't going to pay the price of a used car when I didn't *really* need it
Tech news :D GPU pricing is going to go up 30% at minimum. 5090 2000$ confirmed :( Tarrifs only work if we have the tech to fight back, and America does not make its own OLEDs, GPUs, Cpus, and all that other stuff. So dumb :(
You do realize that having things is a privilege not a right, so you crying that a lot of people can't afford expensive things is just entitlement, also y'all have been screeching PC master race for years now it's master race prices and y'all can't keep up😂
@@AndrewB23 are you some kind of mobile internet clown? people can't afford the stuff BECAUSE they're expensive. that's what they're complaining about.
Thats right, they want you to use streaming services like geforce now and subscriptions for your games like gamepass. Even owning a GPU is considered against their view of the future, they want constant money, you owning nothing and being reliant on their service for the rest of your life
The Tariffs wouldn't be so bad if the US had enough chip production to take up the slack as a tariff system is intended to be used for. This whole idea of using tariffs to punish other countries is ultimately pointless.
And meanwhile I'm sitting at work with a literal stack of new in-box 4080's/4090's, a bunch of used in box 30 series, and a huge box of older cards....2080's, XT6800's, even some old RX580's....and we can't sell them because corporate says we need Work Instructions for the organization to test and QC them, yet nobody will write or allow me to write the WI.
Oh, they went WAY DOWN near the end of the 30-series... if you stuck with a 2060 and missed-out on the great GPU price nose-dive of late 2022, well... enjoy your 2060. All the 30-series were at or below MSRP just before the 40-series came out (unimpressive as the 40-series was).
It's cool, I'm on my retro gaming villain arc, and my 3080 12 GB will serve me well. It really is a shame I will miss out on all these unfinished broken games at launch, and get to buy them on steep discounted definitive edition releases. So sad.
The China tariffs should not affect GPU prices unless they use it as an excuse to gouge. The factories for most brands are in Taiwan which the US does not consider part of China and we have a different tariff structure with. Check the box for your GPU if you still have it. Companies that sell in the US are required to label the box with country of origin. My Gigabyte was manufactured in Taiwan. Companies with Taiwan factories: Acer, ASRock, ASUS, BioStar, Gigabyte, MSI, Palit, PNY and Powercolor.
With cost of living going up at ridiculous rates, it almost feels like "luxury" items like computers are going the way of cars, where end users pay 25+% more overall for a bank to own it for years while milking people for cash.
@@soonts Of course, because the PCI-E power connector is well concieved and robustly built : when the latch is engaged, you know that crap ain't going anywhere. I'm almost certain you would rip the entire connector out from the board before ripping the lead out of the socket.
@@Direwoof Also Australians literally earn more money than Americans or Canadians due to their stronger economy, lower unemployment, smaller population, and surplus of high paying (low education) jobs in the resources industries. Even when you account for currency-exchange, the average Aussie makes about 20% more than the average lower-working-class American in a median income fly-over-state. Even if you could sell a GPU for the EXACT same MSRP (adjusted) in both hemispheres.... even without taxes.... the price is going to seem much lower to someone has more disposable income to regularly play around with. The scarcity mindset really does change what we consider expensive or cheap.
Something else the CAMM2 form factor offers, is more convenient cooling solutions (as faster ram will need better cooling), as well as better clearance with CPU coolers of various types. They will demand more space on the motherboard footprint, so the ITX form factor would need to see some rework done to make it viable, but there's definitely benefits to it.
@@Gattberserk I was thinking that, but at the same time ITX boards are so limited by their footprint that there may simply not be enough space unless major workarounds are done to how board layouts are designed. Maybe a new dual-pcb design will emerge where the stuff most affected by direct high-bandwidth lanes such as chip sockets, ram interface, main pcie connection, etc are on the main board, and then everything else (like ssd storage, pci expansions etc) are on the back board.
With Bitcoin ETFs gaining popularity, some predict the price might reach $100k. Should I consider investing my $500k cash savings now, or have I missed the optimal time for potential gains?
I recently sold half my tech stock holdings due to all-time highs, leaving me with $400k. Should I invest in ETFs now or wait for a market correction considering potential inflation?
After suffering and waiting through the great drought/price-hike of the early 2020s, I finally landed an RTX 3070Ti prior to the release of the 40-series... and... couldn't care less about the GPU market anymore... the 3070Ti handles everything I throw at just fine (games I enjoy)... when Johny Butts wants to try and tell me i'm not happy because "but, but" I only have 8GB, you can talk to the hand, cuz my ear's ain't listening... once again, every game I throw at it (emphasis on the "I") plays just fine. Until the 3070Ti doesn't give me joy, I'm perfectly happy standing pat... I don't need to upgrade for the sake of upgrading. I'm very happy with my gaming experience... no, i'm not top-of-the-line on anything, but my "old" system handles everything I play the way I like it. I'll upgrade when I need to, and that time is not now. Specs of my "gramps" system: Intel i7 10700F CPU / RTX 3070Ti GPU / 32GB DDR4 / 2TB M.2 SSD NVMe
Heh, the vehicle of the uberwealthy playing Cyberpunk. We have a cyberpunk world inside of a cyberpunk world. All while prices become ever more out of reach for the average person. Mmm depression.
no matter the reasons for a hike in prices , my income stay's the same no new gpu for me this year neither been waiting since 2019. 128 bit memory on 60 class cards, bad memory chips on nvdias gpus and at those prices aswell wft, ray tracing??? its called pathtracing and is not ready for consumer gpu's to this day , overpriced mobo's etc no ty
Just want to get a preemptive FU to all the scalpers out there who are waiting to hoard all the 50x series cards. I will NOT be buying anything from you.
People (customers) are indifferent about new hardware and other computer parts as they have been milked, burned, gaslit. Decived by misleading marketing and in some cases outright lied to a lot over the last 15 years, all to shift more units and push stock up and now that cool off is really ramping up as many just do not bother buying the next new thing choosing to accept or just get by with what they have, wonderful
only thing i can imagine the CAMM ram be useful for on desktops is for Low profile mITX builds or maybe if they had the socket on the back of the board, idk
-tower coolers being 40mm shorter for the same exact fan sizes -broken contact pins fixable without a soldering station -all the same signal path geometry benefits as in laptops -can be placed closer to the socket without violating Intel's/ATX max height for anything intruding on the socket zone
Undisclosed reasons, i.e. Tesla (a company desperate for revenue) tried to make Steam pay a lot more money to put their software in their cars and Steam said kick rocks.
I built my current computer in April 2021. I couldn't afford a 3080, so I just kept my 1070TI and started saving. That said, I planned to build my next computer in April 2026 -- and I think that date will come before I actually get a new graphics card. LOL *Life* happened and I haven't been able to put aside the amount necessary for a good card yet. My 1070TI is still rocking and rolling, modern games still look great on medium (especially with FSR2 or stuff like that) and honestly I'm just thankful I can still play games. This whole graphics card thing has been RIDICULOUS. Who can afford like $1,500 to $2,000 just for a video card? Like... WHAT?! Anyway, much respect, mate. It's cool to stay up to date although I can't buy a card right now. Thanks for that! :)
consoles are a disgrace right now (seriously, i've never seen a more disappointing generation on all fronts), the pc hardware market seems to be permanently ruined... maybe game devs should take a small break from AAA and develop their stuff for hardware that's 10 years old, so it runs great on AMD APUs of today. problem solved! i mean whoever's going to complain about ps4 level graphics is an idiot anyway.
You just used the PC Mag article that was speculative. There are no actual facts in there regarding the tariffs being renewed. This same article (as well as the one from PC Gamer) has been posted and re-posted all over the internet and it's only guessing at *what could happen* not *what will happen* based off of a recommendation. Even if there is a price hike again due to tariffs, this won't take effect until the end of the year at worst. Any cost spikes that happen now will be because of fearmongering, blaming the tariffs that haven't actually been implemented yet. Thanks for doing your part Paul.
Actually, I do expect the noises from Washington DC about raising the tariffs again to raise prices, even if the tariffs don't actualy go back into effect. Companies will adjust for their worst case scenario, and if it turns out they don't have to pay the tariff, well, that's profit.
@@shannonrhoads7099 This is what I was getting at. Ngreedia don't need an excuse to raise prices either since they basically have a monopoly in the GPU segment, but when they finally release the 5090 for $2,700, they will blame the tariffs, even if they haven't even happened yet.
The 4070 has 12, no way the next one will have less, it will either have 12 which would suck, or 16. And as for the 5090, idc and never will, that class of product is stupid, I'd buy a pro grade product instead of that crap.
OK, here comes the problem. GPU prices are never going down again. Consider. After the crypto bubble, gpu makers realized they could coast on the latest fad and/or political stuff to justify their prices going up for A TON. If its not crypto, its the market going crazy due to Covid. If its not covid, its whatever might happen on Taiwan. If not, then its AI. (The actual material scarcity is another issue, but one they dont care about up till the day its actually over) Then you have how much the market is monopolized by Nvidia. AMD has given up on the high-end, and chances are that the midpoint will suffer too due to said decision, not to mention they still have to keep making up new drivers that work with the latest fad, be raytracing or AI or whatever while still suffering from lack of optimization on the powerdraw, which is basically their biggest issue on the long run for people on a budget. And ofc, $deity only knows if Battlemage will be anything but a meme. Thus, Nvidia could pretty much sell us a 2060 with dlss and framegen attached for 700 didgeridoos and we'd be on a pickle because actual competition is getting scarce. There's a comment that says "blame the suits". Well yes, but also no. Companies will ALWAYS want to give you less for your money, and ask for more even if they give you NOTHING in return. That's what companies are. Evil? Miserable? Yes, but we should already know that from the get-go or we are screwed. The only way for companies to even consider giving us better products and/or cheaper ones would be to stop giving them money overall, and we'd still be screwed due to people (like cryptobros) or another corporation falling for the latest fad (AI).
I guess I'll have to start saving again because a reasonably capable gaming rig is now going to cost $3K, and even low-end models will be $2K. Thanks to Trump's tariffs, I'm about $3K short. Oh, yay!
Just curious as to whether the upcoming Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 "Blackwell" series cards will come with an optional miniature nuclear power plant designed to power them? Or perhaps all metal power connectors with extremely high melting-points?
I regret going to sleep early and missing my tech news! ☹️To Joe and Paul, I hope you have a safe trip over to Taiwan for Computex 2024 and I am going to miss the tech news. Also, I slept like crap😂.
Events like CES and Computex are like the SuperBowl for me. 50-Series Halo products will have to include card supports, and at the prices nVidia will charge, should be made of diamonds and platinum.
I am officially done with new gpu's or cpu's. My 3070 TI and 13600 are just going to have to last me. I'm sick of nvidia and and as well as intel. I feel better now, but still done.
I am so happy I good for the next few years. I dropped the 5800X3D into my AM4 socket and called it good. I then add what I saved on not going to the AM5 socket to my GPU buget early last year , yes the GPU market was not great in UK and the GPU is still not best it been all over the place
NVidia is becoming to be just like 3DFX in the end (big for sure). Maybe I'm wrong, but they are more interested in AI systems, than in what people would like to see.
Boulder dash Shipping container crisis, theres many less business across the world since rona and govt policies sure haven't helped with it either. If anything ANYTHING there should be a glut of empty shipping containers. Saying otherwise counters the realities of the economy and employment numbers.
a little concerned about CAMM2 memory. I have installed/replaced many CAMM video cards in laptops and the interposer MUST be replaced each time. so quickly reseating a memory module may be an issue. not sure how many times you can get away with it.....
So, will meeting up with Linus be awkward (especially with Steve from GN) or is that buried in the past? Haven't really kept track of that whole mess recently.
I'm glad I enjoy simpler games that don't need much graphics power. I bought a 6650xt and there's a good chance it will last me until it kicks the bucket.
Would CPUs be affected? I was thinking on waiting to get the microcenter 7800x3d bundle but would it be better to get it now to avoid the stress of price increases?
I'm not worried about GPU prices anymore because I've decided to only play and 8 and 16 bit retro games from the last century while remaining drunk. And maybe every now and then I'll check out how new games are going by watching mediocre Twitch streams.
Alcoholism is a sad life
@@some-replies yes it is. But I think it's a joke...it makes the graphics look better.
I more or less settled with an RX 6800 about half a year ago. It's a good card, though I would have preferred an NVIDIA card. Lord knows I won't be able to afford one of those for a good while, though, let alone one with a decent amount of VRAM.
Same here. I’m still playing borderlands 2 and 3. I only play what fitgirl repacks provides
**can't complain about performance if you only play relative old games**
But in all seriousness, the only motive I have for better GPU is for AI usage
So in other words, ddr6 in 26. I’ve got my 12th gen 12600kf on a z690 board now using ddr4. Perhaps upgrade to a 13700/14700k and wait for ddr6 and zen 6-7 or intel what 16gh/17th gen.
So are you saying NOW is a good time to replace my 1050ti?
I love that we only have a container "shortage" because the shipping companies REFUSE to pick up empties. We actually have TOO MANY containers but the shipping companies know they can just not pick them up and suddenly there is a "shortage" and they can jack up prices again.
Also places have have been selling containers for a dime a dozen or on the cheap and people have been building "container homes". So yeah, maybe id they pick their sheet up and stop selling them they wouldn'y have this problem.
@@graffiti73 Only the containers that are too expensive to repair or have gone past their hours of use are sold you go try buying a container that's only a week old and you'll not be able to get one
I hear that the problem is that the containers are all in the wrong places. And shipping an empty container is not much cheaper than shipping a container of goods. Therefore, if companies start to pick up empty containers and use them, all shipping would suddenly be twice the cost.
@@andyhu9542 Many of the containers are in destination locations like the EU or US and instead of picking these containers up and taking them back to east asia, they leave them at the ports and claim they are trying to keep to schedules. During the pandemic Maersk actually sent a vessel from east asia to the west coast US loaded and ONLY brought back empties so they could load. They don't do that now because they are making money on 7000 dollar per FEU moves and will only go back to transporting empties when forced to.
@@CMan-602 Oh yes, it's the Green New Deal that's to blame. Of course it is. I'm sure everything has a "blue" fault behind it for you and comes from sound bites.
You know its bad when a GPU costs more than 92% of the cars I have purchased in the last 42 years.
Not only that, but the GPU i bought 2 years ago (4080) still costs more than my brand new 14900k, asus rog mobo, RAM, case and cooling(+ external fans) combined. The more you think about, the more insane it gets.
@@stevanko1I'd send it back and buy a real cpu like a ryzen 7700x
the cars you buy maybe LOL what a dumb statement I bought a RTX 3060 for 285 euro not 2 months ago gl buying a car for that money
@@kor-cv9uz That card is over $550 where I live. And yes I can find a car for less than that still today.
@@kor-cv9uz Sorry but that's still too much. Then again, I don't do gaming. Now, if I got more into animation rendering it might be useful.
JEDEC should be put in charge of naming USB from now on...instead we get "this new motherboard has support for USB Type C gen3.2x2.1 Superspeed1x version 2.4 rev3"
i cant wait for nvidia to blame pirates for gpu prices.
You wouldn't download a Graphics Card...
@@HermitGeek yes i would
They blame users for their ridiculous power connector. So next step will be drivers with DLC - you will lease some optional functionality and optimization. Then they will start blame gamers and lower Vram/spec and lift prices.
Nvidia wont blame anything. They will just continue to charge higher and higher prices.
@@paddlesouth until it fall down
You are going to need a cinderblock-sized wallet to buy that 5090.
Price reflecting the name $5090
It is called your kidney.
AI now is like Multimedia back in the 90's. Everything was multimedia, the mouse, the case, the cpu cooler everything!
The computer hardware business is one of the few that when you sell a multitude more of your products, the price goes up 🤔
Tariffs don't care how many they sell
when a polar bear in the arctic sneezes the price of gpu's goes up
economics of scale! -but its reverse boogaloo
Nowadays, I think that it applies on everything.
Because more than half the product I see are like that (aka., the more demand and sale of a product, the more it's price increases).
And i believe this to be the key feature of current mass production system, with high market trend prediction analytics, which allows companies to predict when sale and demand would rise, allowing them to reduce production to maintain a high price.
Its corruption and BS from corrupt companies
Maybe Jensen will go on stage like Ford CEO and tell everyone that you need to make $100k to buy a new GPU.
Between games getting worse, more expensive and gpu prices going up, now's a good time to put gaming on the backshelf i guess....
There has been a shortage of sea containers since everyone went mental buying stuff online during covid. Last I heard, there was about 12M empties in the interior of the USA because it costs too much to get them back to the coast. About 6M are in Brazil for the same reasons. You guys need to get onto the federal govt and get them to sort out the tariffs and taxes for transporting empties back to the coast. (I work at a port and get info from shipping reps)
4090 spontaneously combusts. 5090 = "cinder block". Burn.
The RTX 5090 hums when you plug it in. A faint green glow emanates from its back plate. For some reason, the side of your body facing the tower, slowly adopts a rosy pink tint. And when you try to play _New World_ ....your 12pins connector start to smell like burning rubber. You also realize that when you power off your PC at night, the Microwave in your kitchen powers on.
@@mr.selfimprovement3241 and a metallic taste in your mouth
@@mr.selfimprovement3241 Accurate
More like it takes out the entire city grid.
So first it was Bitcoin, then it was HumanMalware19, and now it's shipping containers? There's always a reason for why I can't get a GPU!
All greed
i think someone took the shipping container homes way too much that when the regular trade volume resumed, they dont have enough containers for shipping as some got converted into homes...
Nah, it’s always been your wallet.
@@ARealPainThats a valid point
@@ARealPain Nah, my wallet is fine. My brain won't let me pay 2500AUD for a 1200AUD GPU. During the crypto boom you could not get a GPU anywhere unless you bought it from a scalper. Same happened again during Batsoup19. I ended up buying a 3080 12GB for MSRP at the end of 22, and I had a 2080 to use until then, so I wasn't going to pay the price of a used car when I didn't *really* need it
Tech news :D GPU pricing is going to go up 30% at minimum. 5090 2000$ confirmed :( Tarrifs only work if we have the tech to fight back, and America does not make its own OLEDs, GPUs, Cpus, and all that other stuff. So dumb :(
i mean we do make them here we just dont build them here.
Yea its retaadid they shouldn't be putting tarrifs on things you can't get any other way. Just greedy rich people who want more of your money.
The 4090 was $2300 minimum in Sweden
Intel actually makes their processors in america. Not the best stuff (and new ones will be made in same place as AMD), but at least something.
@@oliviamoore3426 But American tariffs don't affect the price in Sweden, do they? 🦘
Up you say? Oh cool, so even more people can NOT buy them.
I was thinking this, sales are already very sluggish so they can slap higher prices on all they want, it wont sell more hardware that is for sure
"You will own nothing and be happy"
You do realize that having things is a privilege not a right, so you crying that a lot of people can't afford expensive things is just entitlement, also y'all have been screeching PC master race for years now it's master race prices and y'all can't keep up😂
@@AndrewB23 are you some kind of mobile internet clown? people can't afford the stuff BECAUSE they're expensive. that's what they're complaining about.
Thats right, they want you to use streaming services like geforce now and subscriptions for your games like gamepass. Even owning a GPU is considered against their view of the future, they want constant money, you owning nothing and being reliant on their service for the rest of your life
The Tariffs wouldn't be so bad if the US had enough chip production to take up the slack as a tariff system is intended to be used for.
This whole idea of using tariffs to punish other countries is ultimately pointless.
Still, protectionism is a bad economic policy. Industry protected from competition is more likely to stagnate while keeping the prices high.
@@user-eu5ol7mx8ythere is no 7nm and below chip production in the US so which US company is it protecting?
@@captainheat2314 Wow, I didn't know. That makes it even more dumb
Well China tariffs is so it's only fair. Maybe we should make em here.
@DatcleanMochaJo Nothing fair about it. Robbing innocent Americans of their money, making everyone poorer.
It makes no damn sense paying that much for a single computer component
And meanwhile I'm sitting at work with a literal stack of new in-box 4080's/4090's, a bunch of used in box 30 series, and a huge box of older cards....2080's, XT6800's, even some old RX580's....and we can't sell them because corporate says we need Work Instructions for the organization to test and QC them, yet nobody will write or allow me to write the WI.
i dont feel like gpu prices ever went down since buying my 2060 4 years ago 💀💀💀
It did, just not much anymore. You can have the power of the rtx 2060 that i buyed 370 euros for 200 euros now.
It didn't go back down...
@@ectotrix7399 That's way overpriced for such an old card...
Need better games first, for me to upgrade from 3050.
Oh, they went WAY DOWN near the end of the 30-series... if you stuck with a 2060 and missed-out on the great GPU price nose-dive of late 2022, well... enjoy your 2060. All the 30-series were at or below MSRP just before the 40-series came out (unimpressive as the 40-series was).
Raise prices. Release new gpu. At higher price. Profit.
And so has everything else apart from wages
Aka the great inflation. PC part seem to spearhead the price increase during inflation.
It's cool, I'm on my retro gaming villain arc, and my 3080 12 GB will serve me well. It really is a shame I will miss out on all these unfinished broken games at launch, and get to buy them on steep discounted definitive edition releases. So sad.
I think the color of the thermal paste is correlated to the color of the pills the Coolermaster guys are on...
Wait for the RGP paste, says I... 🙃
The China tariffs should not affect GPU prices unless they use it as an excuse to gouge. The factories for most brands are in Taiwan which the US does not consider part of China and we have a different tariff structure with. Check the box for your GPU if you still have it. Companies that sell in the US are required to label the box with country of origin. My Gigabyte was manufactured in Taiwan.
Companies with Taiwan factories: Acer, ASRock, ASUS, BioStar, Gigabyte, MSI, Palit, PNY and Powercolor.
Container shortage? Good thing I bought my 25 shipping containers for my backyard playground last month.
I’m never building my PC. These graphics card prices are a pain in the ass
With cost of living going up at ridiculous rates, it almost feels like "luxury" items like computers are going the way of cars, where end users pay 25+% more overall for a bank to own it for years while milking people for cash.
5090 not even released and we've already seen pictures of it... bricked.
Damn bro chill out
Wait, are you serious telling me the AI thermal paste is NOT made of sentient nano machines!?
The nanites only come in black.
that's why i bought my 7900xtx, It's gonna serve me for a very long time.
No you bought it because you couldn't afford the better overpriced gpu
The 7970 ghz of it's time for sure!
@@AndrewB23true, which is funny cause dude still probably spent over $1000 with taxes and probably on that thing
@@AndrewB23 The 7900xtx doesn’t melt it’s own power connector under a normal use.
@@soonts Of course, because the PCI-E power connector is well concieved and robustly built : when the latch is engaged, you know that crap ain't going anywhere. I'm almost certain you would rip the entire connector out from the board before ripping the lead out of the socket.
Safe travels, Joe and Paul!
The heatsinks' thickness is becoming ridiculous and unsustainable.
Might be one of the rare times where buying a product is actually cheaper if you're a Canadian.
Thats why their so cheap in Australia, cheaper ship no tarrifs
@@Direwoof Also Australians literally earn more money than Americans or Canadians due to their stronger economy, lower unemployment, smaller population, and surplus of high paying (low education) jobs in the resources industries. Even when you account for currency-exchange, the average Aussie makes about 20% more than the average lower-working-class American in a median income fly-over-state. Even if you could sell a GPU for the EXACT same MSRP (adjusted) in both hemispheres.... even without taxes.... the price is going to seem much lower to someone has more disposable income to regularly play around with. The scarcity mindset really does change what we consider expensive or cheap.
@@Direwoof4090 is 3000 dollars in Australia dude lol
@@Ms.Fowlbwahhh AUD is worth les than USD
@@jackrenders8937 which would make it 4500 Aussie dollars
Something else the CAMM2 form factor offers, is more convenient cooling solutions (as faster ram will need better cooling), as well as better clearance with CPU coolers of various types. They will demand more space on the motherboard footprint, so the ITX form factor would need to see some rework done to make it viable, but there's definitely benefits to it.
Maybe the CAMM will be more useful in ITX form factor.
@@Gattberserk I was thinking that, but at the same time ITX boards are so limited by their footprint that there may simply not be enough space unless major workarounds are done to how board layouts are designed. Maybe a new dual-pcb design will emerge where the stuff most affected by direct high-bandwidth lanes such as chip sockets, ram interface, main pcie connection, etc are on the main board, and then everything else (like ssd storage, pci expansions etc) are on the back board.
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After suffering and waiting through the great drought/price-hike of the early 2020s, I finally landed an RTX 3070Ti prior to the release of the 40-series... and... couldn't care less about the GPU market anymore... the 3070Ti handles everything I throw at just fine (games I enjoy)... when Johny Butts wants to try and tell me i'm not happy because "but, but" I only have 8GB, you can talk to the hand, cuz my ear's ain't listening... once again, every game I throw at it (emphasis on the "I") plays just fine. Until the 3070Ti doesn't give me joy, I'm perfectly happy standing pat... I don't need to upgrade for the sake of upgrading. I'm very happy with my gaming experience... no, i'm not top-of-the-line on anything, but my "old" system handles everything I play the way I like it. I'll upgrade when I need to, and that time is not now.
Specs of my "gramps" system:
Intel i7 10700F CPU / RTX 3070Ti GPU / 32GB DDR4 / 2TB M.2 SSD NVMe
Heh, the vehicle of the uberwealthy playing Cyberpunk. We have a cyberpunk world inside of a cyberpunk world. All while prices become ever more out of reach for the average person. Mmm depression.
no matter the reasons for a hike in prices , my income stay's the same
no new gpu for me this year neither been waiting since 2019.
128 bit memory on 60 class cards, bad memory chips on nvdias gpus and at those prices aswell wft, ray tracing??? its called pathtracing and is not ready for consumer gpu's to this day , overpriced mobo's etc no ty
Just want to get a preemptive FU to all the scalpers out there who are waiting to hoard all the 50x series cards. I will NOT be buying anything from you.
this card it's Bigger than my laptop.... if anyone wants it, basically gonna have to build a new PC... which it will be even more expensive
I just wanted to say that I finished (almost) playing through Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3. WHat should I play next?
That's why they need to make GPU fabs in NA. Screw Asia and huge shipping costs.
Unfortunately building up a fab takes far too long to be of any use now. Heck, the backorders just on the chip fab *machines* is awful.
7900xtx is 46% of the price of a 4090 in Australia right now. 1400AUD vs 3000AUD
It's a steal, frankly, i bought one for my son as a graduation present ...
So people should not buy a single GPU. Shops must pay taxes, rent , employees etc. They gonna die.
Still happily using my MSI 3090 graphics card. I'm set until it blows up.
"ASUS ROG Ally X details were limited"
...not as limited as their warranty😂😂😂
People (customers) are indifferent about new hardware and other computer parts as they have been milked, burned, gaslit. Decived by misleading marketing and in some cases outright lied to a lot over the last 15 years, all to shift more units and push stock up and now that cool off is really ramping up as many just do not bother buying the next new thing choosing to accept or just get by with what they have, wonderful
I didn't know there was a B in supposedly. Suposeblee i'm not "techee" enough. :)
only thing i can imagine the CAMM ram be useful for on desktops
is for Low profile mITX builds
or maybe if they had the socket on the back of the board, idk
-tower coolers being 40mm shorter for the same exact fan sizes
-broken contact pins fixable without a soldering station
-all the same signal path geometry benefits as in laptops
-can be placed closer to the socket without violating Intel's/ATX max height for anything intruding on the socket zone
Are you going to visit the remains of the EKWB and ASUS booths after Steve is done with them?
The background music with the constant tooting is annoying. Sounds like a fog horn.
Ddr6?? I thought Ddr5 just came out! Man time went in 2x after 2020
Undisclosed reasons, i.e. Tesla (a company desperate for revenue) tried to make Steam pay a lot more money to put their software in their cars and Steam said kick rocks.
Checks for April 1st, Nah. Coloured thermal paste⁉
and YET you all keep paying! LOL
Thanks for the leather!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait to see how the RBG enjoyers will rationalize colored thermal paste.
Good thing Ive made it to replace my old 980Ti to 3080Ti in time. Was lucky enough to get waterblock for her.
My upgrade path: 980Ti -> 5090
I've been a patient bastard.
@@Kridian01 Hope to you 5090 will be a good card. I'll possibly upgrade when 7080Ti comes.
Containers don't suddenly disappear over night ¬_¬
I wonder if power efficiency and/or cool running will become a desired trait at some point?
Finally spotted a new 4090 for under MSRP on Amazon
Dang so you prices when up when high schoolers graduate.
Dammit, I was planning on building a new PC with my summer job, but now prices are going to skyrocket?
5090 32gb vRAMN....dAMN
The red thermal paste wakes your system up from the Matrix
I built my current computer in April 2021. I couldn't afford a 3080, so I just kept my 1070TI and started saving. That said, I planned to build my next computer in April 2026 -- and I think that date will come before I actually get a new graphics card. LOL *Life* happened and I haven't been able to put aside the amount necessary for a good card yet. My 1070TI is still rocking and rolling, modern games still look great on medium (especially with FSR2 or stuff like that) and honestly I'm just thankful I can still play games. This whole graphics card thing has been RIDICULOUS. Who can afford like $1,500 to $2,000 just for a video card? Like... WHAT?!
Anyway, much respect, mate. It's cool to stay up to date although I can't buy a card right now. Thanks for that! :)
buy a ps5
@@avocadodevotee Ya know, I just might. LOL
consoles are a disgrace right now (seriously, i've never seen a more disappointing generation on all fronts), the pc hardware market seems to be permanently ruined...
maybe game devs should take a small break from AAA and develop their stuff for hardware that's 10 years old, so it runs great on AMD APUs of today. problem solved!
i mean whoever's going to complain about ps4 level graphics is an idiot anyway.
Yeah GPU are way over priced. But dumb kids will keep buying them. GPU should not be be over 600-700 dollars
@@Cognitoman should be 300$ and not higher
You just used the PC Mag article that was speculative. There are no actual facts in there regarding the tariffs being renewed. This same article (as well as the one from PC Gamer) has been posted and re-posted all over the internet and it's only guessing at *what could happen* not *what will happen* based off of a recommendation.
Even if there is a price hike again due to tariffs, this won't take effect until the end of the year at worst. Any cost spikes that happen now will be because of fearmongering, blaming the tariffs that haven't actually been implemented yet. Thanks for doing your part Paul.
Thank you - I hate when this channel decides to phone it in, because while maybe its not GN, I expect more than the typical.
Didn’t you know? Repeating something *makes* it true. Or at least truth-adjacent. It’s how “truthiness” works.
Actually, I do expect the noises from Washington DC about raising the tariffs again to raise prices, even if the tariffs don't actualy go back into effect. Companies will adjust for their worst case scenario, and if it turns out they don't have to pay the tariff, well, that's profit.
Apparently China's moved a bunch of their manufacturing overseas to avoid this tariff
@@shannonrhoads7099 This is what I was getting at. Ngreedia don't need an excuse to raise prices either since they basically have a monopoly in the GPU segment, but when they finally release the 5090 for $2,700, they will blame the tariffs, even if they haven't even happened yet.
Maybe we should just skip DDR6 and go right to vram, even an older version might work?
be sure to get boba while you're there!
Laughs in 4090 bought at actual MSRP at a store in Q12024
Don't laugh too loud, if you do you might not hear the sound of the gpu power connector melting.
AI = Stands for ! Artificial Inflation $
Safe travels and thank you for another excellent tech news!!
Never mention the American president in front of an American, or a European XD
That a 5090 don't even have 24GB of VRAM is a dire news. It means the 5070 is already a failed product which will only get 8GB of VRAM
They almost certainly be 2GB each so 32GB total. Its possible that GDDR7 might come as 3GB so 48 is possible as well.
The 4070 has 12, no way the next one will have less, it will either have 12 which would suck, or 16. And as for the 5090, idc and never will, that class of product is stupid, I'd buy a pro grade product instead of that crap.
I was looking forward to a low profile 5030 3 GB, but it'll still be a 4 slot card needing a 12V HPWR connector...
gonna be 32gb.
OK, here comes the problem. GPU prices are never going down again. Consider.
After the crypto bubble, gpu makers realized they could coast on the latest fad and/or political stuff to justify their prices going up for A TON. If its not crypto, its the market going crazy due to Covid. If its not covid, its whatever might happen on Taiwan. If not, then its AI. (The actual material scarcity is another issue, but one they dont care about up till the day its actually over)
Then you have how much the market is monopolized by Nvidia. AMD has given up on the high-end, and chances are that the midpoint will suffer too due to said decision, not to mention they still have to keep making up new drivers that work with the latest fad, be raytracing or AI or whatever while still suffering from lack of optimization on the powerdraw, which is basically their biggest issue on the long run for people on a budget. And ofc, $deity only knows if Battlemage will be anything but a meme. Thus, Nvidia could pretty much sell us a 2060 with dlss and framegen attached for 700 didgeridoos and we'd be on a pickle because actual competition is getting scarce.
There's a comment that says "blame the suits". Well yes, but also no. Companies will ALWAYS want to give you less for your money, and ask for more even if they give you NOTHING in return. That's what companies are. Evil? Miserable? Yes, but we should already know that from the get-go or we are screwed.
The only way for companies to even consider giving us better products and/or cheaper ones would be to stop giving them money overall, and we'd still be screwed due to people (like cryptobros) or another corporation falling for the latest fad (AI).
Taking bets now...WHAT PERCENTAGE OF COMPUTEX VENDORS WILL BE MENTIONING AI...90%, 95% OR 98%?
I guess I'll have to start saving again because a reasonably capable gaming rig is now going to cost $3K, and even low-end models will be $2K. Thanks to Trump's tariffs, I'm about $3K short. Oh, yay!
Just curious as to whether the upcoming Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 "Blackwell" series cards will come with an optional miniature nuclear power plant designed to power them? Or perhaps all metal power connectors with extremely high melting-points?
I regret going to sleep early and missing my tech news! ☹️To Joe and Paul, I hope you have a safe trip over to Taiwan for Computex 2024 and I am going to miss the tech news. Also, I slept like crap😂.
Outsourcing was great, right?
Events like CES and Computex are like the SuperBowl for me.
50-Series Halo products will have to include card supports, and at the prices nVidia will charge, should be made of diamonds and platinum.
when you support GREED YOU GET GREED keeping paying them those high prices fools. its all on your inability to control yourselves
I am officially done with new gpu's or cpu's. My 3070 TI and 13600 are just going to have to last me. I'm sick of nvidia and and as well as intel. I feel better now, but still done.
It might be time to grab that 7900XTX I was gawking at, $1400 is reasonable while $2000 is not especially for crap I don't care about.
I am so happy I good for the next few years. I dropped the 5800X3D into my AM4 socket and called it good. I then add what I saved on not going to the AM5 socket to my GPU buget early last year , yes the GPU market was not great in UK and the GPU is still not best it been all over the place
3:56 So we just gonna ignore that fact that the cooler has 3 140mm fans and still using the 12VHPWR connector; I'm disappointed in you Paul
NVidia is becoming to be just like 3DFX in the end (big for sure). Maybe I'm wrong, but they are more interested in AI systems, than in what people would like to see.
Boulder dash Shipping container crisis, theres many less business across the world since rona and govt policies sure haven't helped with it either.
If anything ANYTHING there should be a glut of empty shipping containers. Saying otherwise counters the realities of the economy and employment numbers.
They force users like me to abandon gaming Disabled Pensioners cant afford thousands of dollars for cards / GPU''S ! gaming was my life ...
Let see if the 4090 founder cost 1799€ right now
5090... i guess 1999€ just to barely keep it under psychological 2K
a little concerned about CAMM2 memory. I have installed/replaced many CAMM video cards in laptops and the interposer MUST be replaced each time. so quickly reseating a memory module may be an issue. not sure how many times you can get away with it.....
7900xtx is looking better and better nvidia.... Just snagged a 5700x3d for $200. So ready to build this thing
So, will meeting up with Linus be awkward (especially with Steve from GN) or is that buried in the past? Haven't really kept track of that whole mess recently.
I'm glad I enjoy simpler games that don't need much graphics power. I bought a 6650xt and there's a good chance it will last me until it kicks the bucket.
My 7900 XTX and 13900K will keep me going for a few years... Too bad for new people looking to build new systems 😕
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Damn I swear my cyber Monday deal on the XFX 7900XT for 699.99 plus 100 in Amazon rewards was a preem purchase.
Well, I guess I'll just continue saving money for the day GPUs become affordable. I guess that will be 20 years from now on tho
Would CPUs be affected? I was thinking on waiting to get the microcenter 7800x3d bundle but would it be better to get it now to avoid the stress of price increases?
Why are you playing background music it's annoying, and not necessary, when I'm talking I don't hear background music.