I bought my first printer used and the guy recommended I set it up with FluiddPi, never looked back. I have a P1S now and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've used the physical interface for it.
There's value in having both. I use Klipperscreen for some basic things that you'd do in front of the printer, like screws tilt adjust. You can also pull out a phone, but the screen is already there and on and more convenient.
We tend to be like rivers and follow the path of least resistance. I guarantee you that you'll use this screen a lot after installation just because it's there and very low friction to use.
This is similar with my Marlin printers and using Octoprint, but sometimes people like having a nicer touch screen at the printer, and I admit I have made use of OctoDash as much as I use things remotely
Love the way Big Tree Tech called it Panda touch. Panda's are associated with eating bamboo - Bambu printer.... Little things are amusing :). Basically this is a remote control for the printer. The USB Cable is only for power and the rest is done via MQTT / WiFi. This screen could be stuck anywhere and doesn't need to be stuck to the printer itself. I don't think MQTT would get broken. MQTT is a standard and open. Bambu may add encrypted MQTT, but I doubt they will do that as they know add-ons = more sales. Even with closed source devices, the 3D printing community, and companies aiming at that community, still seem to work together, as well as being competitive in a more friendly way. This may change in the future, but right now there is still a lot of sharing in the community and it's really good for us enthusiasts. I do hope it doesn't change in a hurry.
I have one of these on the way. I won it a while back. Should be here in a few days. I plan to use it with klipper as btt said it can be flashed and then control klipper printers. We will see if it can be done and how hard it is.
I suspect we can set up on a "Filament Drying Feature on P1S" on the Bambu forum profile or "print" to make drying a filament spool like X1C a little more smoother as well. 🤔
Not holding my breath on the API release, I guess I will wait until it gets released by Bambu before I invest in a larger screen, but this did catch my eye because of the features
It's odd that you didn't mention a big problem, for me anyway. Teh Pando cannot see anything but .3mf files on the USB drive, so it can't see .cgo* files. That's true when trying to read files from the printer's SD slot too. So you can't see the model files which shipped with the printer.
10:57 So they realized there's nothing they can do to stop it, so instead of doing everything they can to cripple it, they're actually working with it. This is amazing news
If you weren't quick enough to order one a while back, it will take two months to get one if you order now. Not sure I want to bet that this will be the thing I want by then. I guess it's a good problem to have (for BTT). I have an Xtouch sitting in a drawer. I didn't care for it once I got it installed. I'd buy this one in a hot minute if I could get it in a week.
@@Immolate62 Very difficult to estimate demand for a product category that has never existed before. We thought we had over estimated but we were very wrong. The first batch was available for just under 40 hours and the second batch still has a few available but will only ship when CNY ends.
@@bigtreetech5117 don't misunderstand. I am a huge fan of BTT, and if this product were available and shipping, I would buy it in a hot minute. I think what you're doing is amazing and I'm excited by your success and wish you more of it. You guys are an inspiration to entrepreneurs and fans of progress everywhere. Don't stop!!!
I am curious, Do you know how much you can upgrade a P1S toward X1C specs apart from the metal and plastic sides, thats not important. I guess things like the better resolution camera?, lidar? I guess you can upgrade the extruder gears to be the same, and what else might be different, I am guessing the camera and lidar maybe the toughest and maybe lidar not possible without mainboard upgrade, I will be getting a P1S and just curious how close to the X1C it can get over time with some upgrades.
i want one but cant find where to buy them. all i find now is a pre order direct from bigtreetech but it dont say when they will be released, if i knew how long id be waiting id go ahead an buy one but i dont want to buy it an then find out its going to be months b4 it will release. ill just do the x touch for now cause i know i can get it, just wish there was a bigger display over the 2.8" but it will do for time being until i can get one of these panda touch.
Bambu labs will definitely kill this with a firmware update; they are way too closed-source, and I have a feeling they will have the a1's touch screen as part of the upgrade to the p1p/p1s which they will want people to buy.
The Panda line of accessories were made in collaboration with BIQU. Similar to the E3D high flow nozzle. This product will only gain functionality over time as it's fully supported by Bambu Labs. What he was talking about was encrypting MQTT which is the protocol of this device, and the crouch used to control the printer/s. It's also the same protocol Home Assistant uses for the non official integration Bambu Labs integration which works great. Making the open source community mad has EVER worked out well for that company so encrypting MQTT would be a huge mistake by Bambu and a waste of time/money as the open source community always figures out a workaround. If the encrypted MQTT the xscreen and home assistant integration would stop working, not this device as Bambu will give them the encryption keys as this device is fully supported, at least until the mqqt encryption keys tare broken. They walked a fine line once their firmware was broken. They know it's a slippery slope which is why they announced a developer API.
@@alanfugate4692I’ve had a look, and the last mention of an API was 4 months ago, when you submitted your reply. Are you aware of what, if anything, is happening. I understand that Bambu are currently investigating producing their own LCD display for the P series, and if it proves to be viable, they will market it. The interest being shown by owners regarding LCD displays appears to be very positive. I am aware, that the ‘Handy’ App coupled, with the small monochrome display, provides a very workable solution. However, I would buy one, and I feel sure I’m not the only one…..
Why? Other than being butthurt about open source, theres barely any reasons not to. Time for the open source ones to up their game and get to the same quality and featureset as P1 for the price.
8:20 Please pick your words more carefully. Language is a powerful tool. By careless use you are, I hope accidentally, condoning and normalizing slavery. May I suggest _leader_ and _client_ to use instead?
I don't think you mentioned that it's only $59. Not so much to lose if it ever stops working. I don't have a Bambu printer, so it's not of use to me, but if the Klipper version is the same price I'd jump on it.
@@JonS lol if only. There have been a handful of times I show the price instead of say it. I have found prices change so much on things if I say it costs an amount then it changes I get some frustrated comments 🤷♂️
i see everyone saying they don't use their p1 screen, I own an a1 and use the screen nearly every print to check up on things. I've got a Panda touch arriving tomorrow so ill see if it can do anything the A1 can't already do.
Thought that to till I felt was a z offset delayed setting. The touch screen does not have network delay or html errors. Ive had some occurances where mainsail has altogether ignored a setting change. I ran into a problem with the print farm functionality unfortunately with my setup. Will not print to my X1C fails instantly with an error the AMS failed to load error. I think this may be either one of two things, either I am not slicing correctly which I am sure I am doing it correctly, I am slicing the stl, I export the sliced plate (01) as a 3mf and place it on the flash drive then I attempt to print and the X1C will not print. Other item may be the Firmware is too old on the X1C which is using the same AMS firmware, but the printer FW is only 01.07.00.00 and PT is supposed to be compatible UP TO 01.07.02.00. I cannot update the FW atm because the only option is 01.07.03.00. Which is not listed.
I noticed you pronounced I²C as I-two-C. It's actually pronounced I-squared-C. It stands for "Inter-Integrated Circuit" and as the name implies, its purpose is communication between integrated circuits. - That said, great video man! Appreciate it!
I didn't see the mention of remote camera viewing, i image since this is a wifi device it should be capable of viewing the camera in the future by BTTs software?
While Bambi did mess up with quality assurance testing on the A1 they immediately did a recall unlike most big companies like Asus just to name one. The X/P series is great and when the P1S was cheaper it was by far the best bang for your buck outside maybe a particular QIDI model printer.
I thought I'd want screens on all my 3d printers until realizing how much easier it is to just use mainsail
Having one is still nice sometimes. But mainsail even on a phone can basically do everything indeed.
I bought my first printer used and the guy recommended I set it up with FluiddPi, never looked back. I have a P1S now and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've used the physical interface for it.
There's value in having both. I use Klipperscreen for some basic things that you'd do in front of the printer, like screws tilt adjust. You can also pull out a phone, but the screen is already there and on and more convenient.
Yea, its good to have a screen i guess but 99.99% of my prints are sent frommy computer.
Great video as a P1S owner I can't wait for my Panda Touch to arrive. I have saved this video to help with set up
I ordered one. Inexpensive and looks like it will add some nice functionally for multiple printers.
I haven't even glanced at the control pad on my P1S since initial setup. Bambu Studio is so good, I just sent prints from there on my PC.
Same with my a1
same, only use it several times when there is an update
Same. But I still ordered the panda touch just to make it look nicer 😂
We tend to be like rivers and follow the path of least resistance. I guarantee you that you'll use this screen a lot after installation just because it's there and very low friction to use.
This is similar with my Marlin printers and using Octoprint, but sometimes people like having a nicer touch screen at the printer, and I admit I have made use of OctoDash as much as I use things remotely
Love the way Big Tree Tech called it Panda touch. Panda's are associated with eating bamboo - Bambu printer.... Little things are amusing :).
Basically this is a remote control for the printer. The USB Cable is only for power and the rest is done via MQTT / WiFi. This screen could be stuck anywhere and doesn't need to be stuck to the printer itself.
I don't think MQTT would get broken. MQTT is a standard and open. Bambu may add encrypted MQTT, but I doubt they will do that as they know add-ons = more sales. Even with closed source devices, the 3D printing community, and companies aiming at that community, still seem to work together, as well as being competitive in a more friendly way. This may change in the future, but right now there is still a lot of sharing in the community and it's really good for us enthusiasts. I do hope it doesn't change in a hurry.
I noticed you can do a soft restart of the printer with the Panda Touch. Thats nice to see
I have one of these on the way. I won it a while back. Should be here in a few days. I plan to use it with klipper as btt said it can be flashed and then control klipper printers. We will see if it can be done and how hard it is.
I suspect we can set up on a "Filament Drying Feature on P1S" on the Bambu forum profile or "print" to make drying a filament spool like X1C a little more smoother as well. 🤔
Not holding my breath on the API release, I guess I will wait until it gets released by Bambu before I invest in a larger screen, but this did catch my eye because of the features
Bambu should partner with BTT so their users have the option on the P1 series for a touch screen.
I have mine coming sometime next month
It's odd that you didn't mention a big problem, for me anyway. Teh Pando cannot see anything but .3mf files on the USB drive, so it can't see .cgo* files. That's true when trying to read files from the printer's SD slot too. So you can't see the model files which shipped with the printer.
Keen to see KlipperTouch!
10:57 So they realized there's nothing they can do to stop it, so instead of doing everything they can to cripple it, they're actually working with it. This is amazing news
Thank you for your video, I decide order one😁
merci pour cette vidéo , est ce que votre panda touch fonctionne toujours avec les nouvelle mises a jours machine récente ? merci a vous
Might get it for the usb port otherwise I always use my phone or pc
So, my one question. Does this do anything that the Handy app cannot do? Other than the Master/Slave part.
No, it does less...
Neat! The Panda Revo is what I am excited for.
If you weren't quick enough to order one a while back, it will take two months to get one if you order now. Not sure I want to bet that this will be the thing I want by then. I guess it's a good problem to have (for BTT). I have an Xtouch sitting in a drawer. I didn't care for it once I got it installed. I'd buy this one in a hot minute if I could get it in a week.
Manufacturing on the next batch is already well under way but they are actually selling out too 🙈
@@looxonline maybe it's a character defect, but I hate buying things that sell out the instant they become available.
@@Immolate62 Very difficult to estimate demand for a product category that has never existed before. We thought we had over estimated but we were very wrong. The first batch was available for just under 40 hours and the second batch still has a few available but will only ship when CNY ends.
@@bigtreetech5117 don't misunderstand. I am a huge fan of BTT, and if this product were available and shipping, I would buy it in a hot minute. I think what you're doing is amazing and I'm excited by your success and wish you more of it. You guys are an inspiration to entrepreneurs and fans of progress everywhere. Don't stop!!!
Now that that’s easy set up 😎👍🏻
9:58 How did he get a screencap of my printer filesystem?? 🤣😂
I am curious, Do you know how much you can upgrade a P1S toward X1C specs apart from the metal and plastic sides, thats not important. I guess things like the better resolution camera?, lidar? I guess you can upgrade the extruder gears to be the same, and what else might be different, I am guessing the camera and lidar maybe the toughest and maybe lidar not possible without mainboard upgrade,
I will be getting a P1S and just curious how close to the X1C it can get over time with some upgrades.
i want one but cant find where to buy them. all i find now is a pre order direct from bigtreetech but it dont say when they will be released, if i knew how long id be waiting id go ahead an buy one but i dont want to buy it an then find out its going to be months b4 it will release. ill just do the x touch for now cause i know i can get it, just wish there was a bigger display over the 2.8" but it will do for time being until i can get one of these panda touch.
Bambu labs will definitely kill this with a firmware update; they are way too closed-source, and I have a feeling they will have the a1's touch screen as part of the upgrade to the p1p/p1s which they will want people to buy.
Bambu Lab is relasing an API to increase compatibility with this product
The Panda line of accessories were made in collaboration with BIQU. Similar to the E3D high flow nozzle. This product will only gain functionality over time as it's fully supported by Bambu Labs.
What he was talking about was encrypting MQTT which is the protocol of this device, and the crouch used to control the printer/s.
It's also the same protocol Home Assistant uses for the non official integration Bambu Labs integration which works great. Making the open source community mad has EVER worked out well for that company so encrypting MQTT would be a huge mistake by Bambu and a waste of time/money as the open source community always figures out a workaround.
If the encrypted MQTT the xscreen and home assistant integration would stop working, not this device as Bambu will give them the encryption keys as this device is fully supported, at least until the mqqt encryption keys tare broken.
They walked a fine line once their firmware was broken. They know it's a slippery slope which is why they announced a developer API.
@@alanfugate4692I’ve had a look, and the last mention of an API was 4 months ago, when you submitted your reply. Are you aware of what, if anything, is happening. I understand that Bambu are currently investigating producing their own LCD display for the P series, and if it proves to be viable, they will market it. The interest being shown by owners regarding LCD displays appears to be very positive. I am aware, that the ‘Handy’ App coupled, with the small monochrome display, provides a very workable solution. However, I would buy one, and I feel sure I’m not the only one…..
Does it have folder trees? Or just all files dumped onto the same screen?
Folder trees will be coming in an update. We had to write the FTP stack from scratch so every command takes time to implement.
Im still waaiting on my Panda Touch. Its been 5 weeks..... :(
The screen is kind of novelty, don't really need them as long as the web interface is used.
Rule #1 create a problem we don’t have.
When will bambu make there printer more silent like they have for bedslingers..
bruh no way they decided to use the master slave language lol
Or just.. I dunno. Don't support closed source hardware machines? :)
99% of stuff you own/use in your life is closed source.
Why? Other than being butthurt about open source, theres barely any reasons not to.
Time for the open source ones to up their game and get to the same quality and featureset as P1 for the price.
8:20 Please pick your words more carefully. Language is a powerful tool. By careless use you are, I hope accidentally, condoning and normalizing slavery. May I suggest _leader_ and _client_ to use instead?
I still have old iPhone 6 phones lying around doing nothing. I repurposed those for my P1S controls.
Hi is that using the Bambu Handy app? Thanks. Laurie. NZ.
old phone lying around in a drawer, hooked up to a USB power cable and a 3D printed bracket to hold on the printer, running bambu handy?
I don't think you mentioned that it's only $59. Not so much to lose if it ever stops working.
I don't have a Bambu printer, so it's not of use to me, but if the Klipper version is the same price I'd jump on it.
That’s a great point. Sometimes I focus on the more advanced technical details that I forget some of the obvious ones like price 😅.
A real game changer would be control over both Bambu and Klipper printers simultaneously.
@@ModBotArmy that's because when you're a bigtime RUclipsr making bank, price isn't even a consideration for you! 😂
@@JonS lol if only. There have been a handful of times I show the price instead of say it. I have found prices change so much on things if I say it costs an amount then it changes I get some frustrated comments 🤷♂️
i see everyone saying they don't use their p1 screen, I own an a1 and use the screen nearly every print to check up on things. I've got a Panda touch arriving tomorrow so ill see if it can do anything the A1 can't already do.
Great coverage Modbot !! thanks for posting ! Happy extruding !
Does the device store and ship the data on printes to a 3rd party?
You didn't mention the available languages, and is the Italian language present?
All these upgrades"... should have just got a X1C.
it does show the thumb of the file? or just the name?
I miss your live streams on twitch😢
On Twitch? I haven’t streamed on twitch in probably 8 years.
Thought that to till I felt was a z offset delayed setting. The touch screen does not have network delay or html errors. Ive had some occurances where mainsail has altogether ignored a setting change.
I ran into a problem with the print farm functionality unfortunately with my setup. Will not print to my X1C fails instantly with an error the AMS failed to load error. I think this may be either one of two things, either I am not slicing correctly which I am sure I am doing it correctly, I am slicing the stl, I export the sliced plate (01) as a 3mf and place it on the flash drive then I attempt to print and the X1C will not print. Other item may be the Firmware is too old on the X1C which is using the same AMS firmware, but the printer FW is only 01.07.00.00 and PT is supposed to be compatible UP TO 01.07.02.00. I cannot update the FW atm because the only option is 01.07.03.00. Which is not listed.
I noticed you pronounced I²C as I-two-C. It's actually pronounced I-squared-C. It stands for "Inter-Integrated Circuit" and as the name implies, its purpose is communication between integrated circuits. - That said, great video man! Appreciate it!
There's no real 'correct' way of pronouncing it. Depends on the person. I personally also call it i - two - c. Like SPI can either be s-p-i or spy.
@@IamAffable thanks for your opinion.
Look at that beard!
I didn't see the mention of remote camera viewing, i image since this is a wifi device it should be capable of viewing the camera in the future by BTTs software?
I wish, that would be a great device from my desktop. Without needing to keep Bambu Studio opened.
Almost like running Klipper or something.......
Bambu sucks all it is is speed look at all the a1 recalls what crap
While Bambi did mess up with quality assurance testing on the A1 they immediately did a recall unlike most big companies like Asus just to name one.
The X/P series is great and when the P1S was cheaper it was by far the best bang for your buck outside maybe a particular QIDI model printer.