Fun fact: In the books, Feyd-Rautha brought and used his own blades, which were coated in poison. It didn't change the outcome of the battle, as Paul had developed Internal Organic-Chemical Control from his mom's Bene Gesserit training. Of course while it was unsurprising for us readers, it was still shocking for Feyd himself, and I vaguely remember his realization mid-battle being out of character for a psychopath like him, and satisfying to read Edit: I was wrong, feyd also uses the emperor's blade in the books. The poison is on a hidden weapon that he uses in the fight
Not in the last fight. Feyd uses the Emperor's blade in the book as well. It's coated with a substance to slow muscle response. The real trick he kept back was a poison needle on his belt.
@@magiclion a very important detail would be some of Paul's visions hinting at the golden path. Even that wouldn't be necessarily important in the context of books one and two. Confusing the emperor's blade with two personal blades is hardly "very important", but a mistake nonetheless
@@andronikusable Sorry for expressing how much I enjoyed the movie. I will try and bear in mind such expert intellectuals such as yourself in future when I share an opinion. Perhaps you could enlighten me with your cinephile prowess, sir. Please share some more genius so I can learn more.
On first watch Feyd referred to Chani has Paul’s ‘pet’ and I initially took that as disrespect. On my second watch, I noticed how Feyd genuinely cared for his ‘pets’. So now I’m not sure how to interpret that interaction during the duel. Is Feyd drawing parallels between him and Paul? Is he goading him as to say ‘If I kill you, how would you like me to take care of her?’.
It's a bit of both. In the novel the Baron forces Feyd to personally kill all of his harem 'pets' as punishment for Feyd making a poorly-thought out assassination attempt on him, so by the time he fights Paul he's eager to 'replenish' his stock, and presumably would see that Chani is cared for as his ultimate goal is to prove he's the 'good' Harkonnen who will look after the inhabitants of Arrakis in ways Rabban never did. On the flipside, he is still a Harkonnen so his comment is meant to confirm he will do as his lineage is known for and take the spoils from his defeated foes, including their wives and women.
I know it's heresy to say and not in the book, but I did like how in the 1984 movie. Paul uses voice to shatter Feyd and the ground around him. Just thought it was cool. LOL
In one of the possible futures foreseen by the Kwisatz Haderach Paul, if Muadib died or gave up his destiny earlyer,Feiyd would become the leader of the Fremen and begin the Golden Path. Ubelievable isn 't it?But true.
@@saintniccage2818 I bet that won't happen. Not the slightest chance. The book doesn't feature these and there is no reason to include them at this point anyway. It would just be comical
As i understood (i tryedt to,because not even David Linch - wich is either crazy or pretend to be ,either way the man is brilliant and bold - could explain clearly) that scream Muadib shouted at Sting's,i mean Feyid',s corpse destroyed his soul,or his genetic memory/persona, preventing him to do what the Baron did to Alya.
@@andronikusable....eeeeeh no XD Linch came up with the Weirding Module thing cause he did not care that mutch for the original meterial... let me explain: In the original novel (and Villeneuve's version) Paul and Jessica teach the allready powerfull fremen the 'weirding way'; a technicque of martial arts that allows the brain to react mutch faster and therefore moove faster... Paul and his fredaikin guards are specially profficient in it... ...but Linch LITERALLY though 'kung fu in the dessert is stupid... I will make a gun' so he came up out of nowhere with the weirding module... ALSO, he made clear that Paul HAD misticall powers; he could recreate the effect of the wierdingmodule just with his voice; and even in the end he literally caused rain... in Linch's version; Paul IS a messiah... ...nothing further from Herberts concept. In the novels; Pauld does have some 'enhancments' due to his extreme bene-gesserit training and his selective breeding... but his apparent 'powers' are really extreme manipulation of the human boddy: Telepathy: he can't really read minds; he simply has Sherlock Holmes levels of observation; so he can deduce what people are thinking and they know ehat to sayto provoque tells in the other people... with this technique two bene geserit can 'talk' just with the most subtle of exchange of looks and facial expresions... but there is no telepathy, only super-observation Mind control: an extension of the previous one; with supreme mastery of the human mind and ones own voice; bene geserit can use the 'voice'; seemenglly controlling people... in reallitty is a form of hipnosis; konwing what to say and how to say it you can implant subliminal messages forcing weak people to obbey... Bene gesserits use this technique VERY little because if people know how it works, it can be avoided so they prefer people to think they have real superpowers Premonition: This is the closest Paul has to a 'power'; because he is the Kizach Zaderach... using drugs (The Watter of Life) female bene geserit can awaken the genetic memory of their cells; in a way inheriting the memories and therefore the wisdom of the previous witches... males can do something similar (the Spacing Guild Navigators; who use tons of spice to do this) and in their case, they use this 'mind expansion' to calculate allmost infinite possibillities.... therefore they can 'predict' the future... is not premonition; just super advanced calculus... well; Paul; by been the Quizdach Haderach he is a genetic anomaly; can 'see' the past and can 'calculate' the future; therefore his visions are mutch more usefull... they seem real... when tehy simply are possibillities. In fact, he did not know how the war was going to happen; as he had really no clue of how the duel was gonna end... So, long story short...Paul used his 'supposed powers' to fit the role of the messiah (a role in theother had; fabricated eons ago by the witches preciselly as a form of controlling believers) and gain the fremen... but he is no chosen by God. He has no real divine powers... just some super futuristic controll over biology. The teaching Helbert is triying to vconvey is the danger of beliefs and how the bad guys are simply good guys triying to better the wolrd at any cost... ....but Linch threw everything from the board, invented the moules, gave Paul divine powers and in the end cause to rain in the dessert... witch by the way would have anihilated all the life in Arrakis. Fremen want a green Arrakis... but only inpart. They want to preserve the deep desert to allow Worms to still exist... cause the worms create the spice...and without the spice (wtitch the fremen are heavilly adict as they literally breathe it every day) all the people adicted toit will die from severe addiction... aaaan worms are heavilly alergic to water So,rain in the desert, Worms die, spice runs out... all the fremen die
Gurney still would have had better chances than most in the known universe. He was one of Paul's trainers, and he trained the Atreides troops to the point they rivalled the Sardaukar.
@@jorgejimenez7343 Agreed! She was always miscast. (1) Not a good enough actress to be a lead. (2) Not beautiful enough to be Chani. (3) Too insufferable.
She did well,despite of all that hollywood bullshit.But i rather see either Freyda Pinto (with previous hard work to improve her acting) or the girl who starred Gurjan Saxena.
I am glad there are people who observe good and bad acting. Zendaya is absolutely miscast. She is a Beyonce, of sorts. Allthough I understand that Villeneuve needed her star power and all her instagram followers, I just can't stop imagining someone from the middle east, or just that girl from Bones and All, or even Jenna Ortega, to be Chani and bring some warmth, some real affection towards Paul.
I was also confused at first. Feyd used Paul's blade to stab his left side, then tried to use his own blade to stab paul in his shoulder. Paul then used the blade on his left side to fatally stab Feyd while Feyd's blade went into Paul's shoulder.
Fantastic movie, but tbh this scene was pretty unrealistic. The choreography was fun to watch but nothing like a real knife fight. Still one of my top fav movies of all time.
I kinds get what you are saying. There is some amount of versatility and dark fantasy to David Lynch's version of that scene. And besides, we had proper Alia.
The Dune comparative fighting abilities are mad: the Sardauker are the best in the imperium but they lose to Fremen women and children; the strongest Fremen (Stilgar) lost to Jessica and a warrior (Jamis) lost to a 15 yo (Paul); Paul effectively lost to Feyd Rautha and Feyd Ruatha effectively lost to the captured Atreides in the arena; and, finally, Paul was no match for Count Fenring who refused to fight him.
And horrible comment. Nostalgia is hell of a drug. The original fight scene was absolute dogshit. It looked like two drunken amateurs trying to fight in a park. Sting jumped around like a complete tit 😂 And we're supposed to be intimidated by the Harkonnens 🤣 At least in this movie the actors fight like they've actually been trained. Go back to your Fast & Furious franchise. I can't take anyone who uses the word "mid" seriously 🤡
I really don’t get the hype for these films… Chalomet just ain’t it for me. But thank you for uploading this. Now I don’t have to sit through the movie to at least see this stuff.
Because you're too dumb to understand. You don't even list what makes you dislike this film. You don't even list why Timothee Chalamet is not the right cast. Did you even read the novels?
@@AHeadlessChicken2008 never said my opinion was the prevailing consensus or that you need to take on my viewpoint. I’m also admitting my bias for not being enthused or pushed into feeling obligated to see the film by saying the star of the film is a performer that I don’t connect with on any level so far from several projects of his that I’ve seen.
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The choreography was great!! And the fact that there was no music during the fight was wise! It made it more serious
Fun fact: In the books, Feyd-Rautha brought and used his own blades, which were coated in poison. It didn't change the outcome of the battle, as Paul had developed Internal Organic-Chemical Control from his mom's Bene Gesserit training. Of course while it was unsurprising for us readers, it was still shocking for Feyd himself, and I vaguely remember his realization mid-battle being out of character for a psychopath like him, and satisfying to read
Edit: I was wrong, feyd also uses the emperor's blade in the books. The poison is on a hidden weapon that he uses in the fight
Not in the last fight. Feyd uses the Emperor's blade in the book as well. It's coated with a substance to slow muscle response. The real trick he kept back was a poison needle on his belt.
@@Jaco_Schutte damn you're right. I even went back to my copy and checked. I don't know what I was thinking
Yeah how did you get that so wrong ? It's a very important detail in the books and it's also in the original movie.
@@magiclion a very important detail would be some of Paul's visions hinting at the golden path. Even that wouldn't be necessarily important in the context of books one and two. Confusing the emperor's blade with two personal blades is hardly "very important", but a mistake nonetheless
May thy knife chip and shatter
Hmm. May THY knife chip and shatter.
@@Starlord2334Cousin?
@@oleole4230 sex?
@@oleole4230 let's go bowling!
@@GeorgeThoughtsNice.
Feyd died the same way he killed the “last” atrietes in the colosseum , (blade grab , misdirect into the opponent)
And Paul learnt this trick from Gurney in the first film
Everything about this is great. The lighting. The shadows of the actors. The lack of music.
Thank you for this scene in HDR !
I like the fact that this fight doesn't drag for too long like most star wars fights, and yet feels tense.
The most medieval scene of any sci-fi movie ever.
Timothee and Austin are perfect in these roles.
No,actually they both are terrible.That's why they had the roles.🙄
@@andronikusable Sorry for expressing how much I enjoyed the movie. I will try and bear in mind such expert intellectuals such as yourself in future when I share an opinion. Perhaps you could enlighten me with your cinephile prowess, sir. Please share some more genius so I can learn more.
Both were fantastic but the script really ruins some of the characters (not limited to Chani) @chriswilson3126
This and Paul launching the atomics was epic.
On first watch Feyd referred to Chani has Paul’s ‘pet’ and I initially took that as disrespect. On my second watch, I noticed how Feyd genuinely cared for his ‘pets’. So now I’m not sure how to interpret that interaction during the duel.
Is Feyd drawing parallels between him and Paul? Is he goading him as to say ‘If I kill you, how would you like me to take care of her?’.
It's a bit of both. In the novel the Baron forces Feyd to personally kill all of his harem 'pets' as punishment for Feyd making a poorly-thought out assassination attempt on him, so by the time he fights Paul he's eager to 'replenish' his stock, and presumably would see that Chani is cared for as his ultimate goal is to prove he's the 'good' Harkonnen who will look after the inhabitants of Arrakis in ways Rabban never did. On the flipside, he is still a Harkonnen so his comment is meant to confirm he will do as his lineage is known for and take the spoils from his defeated foes, including their wives and women.
I know it's heresy to say and not in the book, but I did like how in the 1984 movie. Paul uses voice to shatter Feyd and the ground around him. Just thought it was cool. LOL
~Worst Feyd= Original Movie
~Coolest Feyd= Mini Series
~This Feyd= closest to the books.
Feyd is nothing like this in the books😭
In one of the possible futures foreseen by the Kwisatz Haderach Paul, if Muadib died or gave up his destiny earlyer,Feiyd would become the leader of the Fremen and begin the Golden Path. Ubelievable isn 't it?But true.
@@andronikusable Sounds to me like an emphasis on how many possible futures Paul can see, including ridiculously unlikely ones.
Nobody:
Stilgar: Lisan Al Gaib
I saw a fight like this on the subway in ny the other day
*wakes up
Lisan Al gaib
I remember Paul dominating him but he really gets lucky here
The Mini Series Feyd fight was pretty epic as well..
In this fight feyd is dominating paul 😂 shouldn’t happen
Only one of these two spent hours fighting since dawn.....and it wasn't fayd
@@saintniccage2818 Man,if i had the amount of spice that fella has in his blood,i'd keep on too.
This fight scene was horrible and makes payl look like trash tier noob
I will bend like a reed in the wind.
😅I still wanted that voice thing at the end like the 1984 version
I would bet the make the fremen use those in part 3
@@saintniccage2818 I bet that won't happen. Not the slightest chance. The book doesn't feature these and there is no reason to include them at this point anyway. It would just be comical
As i understood (i tryedt to,because not even David Linch - wich is either crazy or pretend to be ,either way the man is brilliant and bold - could explain clearly) that scream Muadib shouted at Sting's,i mean Feyid',s corpse destroyed his soul,or his genetic memory/persona, preventing him to do what the Baron did to Alya.
@@andronikusable....eeeeeh no XD Linch came up with the Weirding Module thing cause he did not care that mutch for the original meterial... let me explain:
In the original novel (and Villeneuve's version) Paul and Jessica teach the allready powerfull fremen the 'weirding way'; a technicque of martial arts that allows the brain to react mutch faster and therefore moove faster... Paul and his fredaikin guards are specially profficient in it...
...but Linch LITERALLY though 'kung fu in the dessert is stupid... I will make a gun' so he came up out of nowhere with the weirding module... ALSO, he made clear that Paul HAD misticall powers; he could recreate the effect of the wierdingmodule just with his voice; and even in the end he literally caused rain... in Linch's version; Paul IS a messiah...
...nothing further from Herberts concept. In the novels; Pauld does have some 'enhancments' due to his extreme bene-gesserit training and his selective breeding... but his apparent 'powers' are really extreme manipulation of the human boddy:
Telepathy: he can't really read minds; he simply has Sherlock Holmes levels of observation; so he can deduce what people are thinking and they know ehat to sayto provoque tells in the other people... with this technique two bene geserit can 'talk' just with the most subtle of exchange of looks and facial expresions... but there is no telepathy, only super-observation
Mind control: an extension of the previous one; with supreme mastery of the human mind and ones own voice; bene geserit can use the 'voice'; seemenglly controlling people... in reallitty is a form of hipnosis; konwing what to say and how to say it you can implant subliminal messages forcing weak people to obbey... Bene gesserits use this technique VERY little because if people know how it works, it can be avoided so they prefer people to think they have real superpowers
Premonition: This is the closest Paul has to a 'power'; because he is the Kizach Zaderach... using drugs (The Watter of Life) female bene geserit can awaken the genetic memory of their cells; in a way inheriting the memories and therefore the wisdom of the previous witches... males can do something similar (the Spacing Guild Navigators; who use tons of spice to do this) and in their case, they use this 'mind expansion' to calculate allmost infinite possibillities.... therefore they can 'predict' the future... is not premonition; just super advanced calculus... well; Paul; by been the Quizdach Haderach he is a genetic anomaly; can 'see' the past and can 'calculate' the future; therefore his visions are mutch more usefull... they seem real... when tehy simply are possibillities.
In fact, he did not know how the war was going to happen; as he had really no clue of how the duel was gonna end...
So, long story short...Paul used his 'supposed powers' to fit the role of the messiah (a role in theother had; fabricated eons ago by the witches preciselly as a form of controlling believers) and gain the fremen... but he is no chosen by God. He has no real divine powers... just some super futuristic controll over biology.
The teaching Helbert is triying to vconvey is the danger of beliefs and how the bad guys are simply good guys triying to better the wolrd at any cost...
....but Linch threw everything from the board, invented the moules, gave Paul divine powers and in the end cause to rain in the dessert... witch by the way would have anihilated all the life in Arrakis.
Fremen want a green Arrakis... but only inpart. They want to preserve the deep desert to allow Worms to still exist... cause the worms create the spice...and without the spice (wtitch the fremen are heavilly adict as they literally breathe it every day) all the people adicted toit will die from severe addiction... aaaan worms are heavilly alergic to water
So,rain in the desert, Worms die, spice runs out... all the fremen die
Paul saved gurney life. Feyd would have destroyed him.
Gurney still would have had better chances than most in the known universe. He was one of Paul's trainers, and he trained the Atreides troops to the point they rivalled the Sardaukar.
@@Nickname-ef9tv not quite. Which was why they got destroyed. Hence the reason for recruiting fremen warriors.
zendaya nose acting is insane one more mean face her nostrills are going to explode
You are an absolute mad lad for this comment I love it! (can't stand zendaya lol)
@@jorgejimenez7343 Agreed! She was always miscast. (1) Not a good enough actress to be a lead. (2) Not beautiful enough to be Chani. (3) Too insufferable.
@@friendlyface4044 pretentious okay looking girl tbh. Like smash. But with double protection yk
She did well,despite of all that hollywood bullshit.But i rather see either Freyda Pinto (with previous hard work to improve her acting) or the girl who starred Gurjan Saxena.
I am glad there are people who observe good and bad acting. Zendaya is absolutely miscast. She is a Beyonce, of sorts. Allthough I understand that Villeneuve needed her star power and all her instagram followers, I just can't stop imagining someone from the middle east, or just that girl from Bones and All, or even Jenna Ortega, to be Chani and bring some warmth, some real affection towards Paul.
I noticed that at first, the blade was stuck in Paul's left side, but by the end of the battle, it was in his right shoulder. Why?
I was also confused at first.
Feyd used Paul's blade to stab his left side, then tried to use his own blade to stab paul in his shoulder. Paul then used the blade on his left side to fatally stab Feyd while Feyd's blade went into Paul's shoulder.
@@Sheyi1234 Good one, thanks
Fantastic movie, but tbh this scene was pretty unrealistic. The choreography was fun to watch but nothing like a real knife fight. Still one of my top fav movies of all time.
well this is a movie with giant sand worms...it's not meant to be realistic lol
and at least the knife fight ending was realistic: one guy is dead, the other guy almost died!
Why is the sound always in mono?
Wilson, you are that dude who played Halo with Dolby SS
and would have it no other way...
This was done so much better in the David Lynch film.
I watched the David Lynch film, You are 100% wrong.
lol what?
I kinds get what you are saying. There is some amount of versatility and dark fantasy to David Lynch's version of that scene. And besides, we had proper Alia.
You are absolutely correct.
Zendayas entire acting range was on display in this scene.
I agree with the Emperor. The heart is not meant to rule.
Well, in the end the Emperor kinda got owned. I wouldn't really take any advice from him.
Then stand,.. or choose your champion.
Well...as everything else in the universe, it's all about the right balance.
@@thisguy368Paul did become more ruthless than the Emperor through his Jihad. He became more Harkonnen than Atreides.
"The heart is not meant to rule." Very poetic, but completely meaningless. Every ruler has a human brain and as such makes decisions the same way.
This movie was bomb!
FMA (filipino martial arts) : Kali/Eskrima/Arnis
As it was written.
Could Gurney have taken Feyd?
With ease.....hes the only fighter as close to as good as Duncan was
@@saintniccage2818 really? I thought Paul was supposed to be a superior fighter now than gurney.
The Dune comparative fighting abilities are mad: the Sardauker are the best in the imperium but they lose to Fremen women and children; the strongest Fremen (Stilgar) lost to Jessica and a warrior (Jamis) lost to a 15 yo (Paul); Paul effectively lost to Feyd Rautha and Feyd Ruatha effectively lost to the captured Atreides in the arena; and, finally, Paul was no match for Count Fenring who refused to fight him.
Nope. Too slow
earlyyyy
Zendeya was literally unbearable to watch. Her ridiculous emoting in every scene were vomit inducing.
Me and my mom were making fun of her acting on the way out of my screening. When she made the "badass girl!" face, I lost it!
Lol you wouldn't know acting if you feel over it 😂
Pro tip: Paul's much better off with Irulan than than the wee boy Chani.
Shut up!!!
Not much point in asking incels for their views on relationships or women.
@@imcallingjapan2178racist ones at that.
Horrible fight scene and so much worse than the original
This movie is mid at best, but this fight scene is really one of the worst of all time
Robert Redford movies had really good fight scenes.
And horrible comment. Nostalgia is hell of a drug. The original fight scene was absolute dogshit. It looked like two drunken amateurs trying to fight in a park. Sting jumped around like a complete tit 😂 And we're supposed to be intimidated by the Harkonnens 🤣 At least in this movie the actors fight like they've actually been trained. Go back to your Fast & Furious franchise. I can't take anyone who uses the word "mid" seriously 🤡
I really don’t get the hype for these films… Chalomet just ain’t it for me. But thank you for uploading this. Now I don’t have to sit through the movie to at least see this stuff.
Because you're too dumb to understand. You don't even list what makes you dislike this film. You don't even list why Timothee Chalamet is not the right cast. Did you even read the novels?
I mean you are entitled to your wrong opinion.
So you haven’t watched the movies but are saying they aren’t good? 😂
You sorta miss the plot by not watching y'know 😂
@@AHeadlessChicken2008 never said my opinion was the prevailing consensus or that you need to take on my viewpoint. I’m also admitting my bias for not being enthused or pushed into feeling obligated to see the film by saying the star of the film is a performer that I don’t connect with on any level so far from several projects of his that I’ve seen.
One of the worst choreographed scenes I've seen since kylo ren and Rey teamed up to fight snoke
What blasphemy comparing Star wars with Dune especially this fight.
Fact. The choreography & close ups of Chani are cringe.
Jesus. If this is not good for you, what the fuck is?
@@CT-nb5lm nah its just chani alone is cringe better yet, Zendaya herself is cringe
what would u prefer? prefectly choreograph fight scenes? like anakin vs obi wan on mustafar? that doesn't look natural at all