I can honestly say that it's nice to see a manufacturer think of ideas outside the toy hauler ramp door solution. Now we have two! It's about time we had a manufacturer use a projector screen! Livinlite used to do a projector in their inflatable pop ups, nice to see it return!
Yeah, it feels like a thing people have asked for for a long time, but the RV industry has struggled to adopt. I’ve seen toy haulers tried a few times, but it was always for outside use and very gimmicky. This is one of the first times I think it maybe has legs
I absolutely love this new floor plan. Having a patio space, and a private office space where I wouldn’t have to do any structural modifications is a game changer. I want it.❤❤❤
I like the floor plan like a lot the only tweak I would like would be privacy blinds for the lower window so I could still get natural light and privacy
Meets and checks off a lot of our boxes, the hidden bunk room is perfect for ebike storage, or glamping dog kennel 😊, my husband likes the projection screen, me ,I could live without it , the 3 season door is a must have, we currently have a small “toy hauler “ travel trailer, love the patio but the bug screen and putting it up and down every day gets old, plus if it’s HOT, you’re leaving it up. I’d prefer a no slide, twin bed version,but I definitely could make this work, love it
This camper checks all my boxes. Has enough room for my Harley. Has 3 season doors and the bonus room would be great for our 2 huge dogs food and water bowls (less mess in the rest of the camper) its only missing an awning on the rear but thats not a deal breaker. We like that it dosent have an oven. Get one in stock in coldwater so I can come buy it! Not kidding!
I don't know how i missed this video. What a neat camper it marks alot of boxes, no oven, lots of windows, toy hauler party patio and soace for an office! I can't wait to see what other come up like this one!
I walked through this today at an rv show. Move the kitchen sink to we’re the flat screen tv is taking up space. 86 the bunk room and put an east west bed in deep slide. Put a large outside camp kitchen with plumbed sink on the camp side on the bed room wall . I should have found a Forrest River rep to explain it. There was one rep that listened to my idea about 5th wheels with camp kitchens and putting a booth dinette so you could have storage under the booth to the outside.the ceiling could be about 2 ft taller for paddle board storage
I like the stove pushed all the way to the wall rather than centered. I think it’s better for meal prep rather than the skinny space(s) if it’s centered. Personally, I think the projector set up is way over the top, but to each his/her own.
This is great! I could see us upgrading to this model at some point. Love the 3 season doors in the back, how well the middle room can function as an office and the flip up counters allowing everything but the couch to be used at a travel stop (I think). We don’t haul toys, so we’d put some more storage under the projector screen. The FSX team has been coming out with some great models.
Nice out of the box toy hauler floorplan with a decent sized living area, a bunk/office area and a great feature that allows you privacy and security when the patio is down👍although I would like to see more quality standard features such as a porcelain toilet to raise it to another level🙂
Very unique and interesting! I like what they did with it. Oven pushed to the side is great. You can do a lot with this rig. I would suggest more floor tie downs though. Thank you Josh!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would suggest 8 total. Placed in rows of 4 and evenly spaced front to rear. My apologies if they already have that many or more. I didn't see many of them.
Oh wow, I love the direction they went on this! Don't like the exposed outlets outside the 3 season patio, that's a miss for me, but the projector is awesome. I hope it has HDMI inputs? Be really cool if they put a slightly larger "shelf" up there or maybe even a small vented cabinet so you could hide a small game console or streaming box away nearby. Bonus room is great, but is the giant fire escape door really necessary? I feel like an exit window would have done better and I don't like how it intrudes in such a small space, especially if you decide to go the office route instead of bunks. My favorite part is definitely the "chaise lounge", I think more larger RVs need something like that which lets you stretch out and relax, sometimes the theater seats just don't offer the same versatility. Also love all the storage options in the bedroom.
"Such a fine line between clever and.....stupid" David St Hubbins This is really cool. If there was no utiliroom, it wouldn't be particularly long either. I also like that they didn't go with the automotive style furniture that you often see in toy haulers. Two thumbs up for being interesting! 👍 👍
WOW‼️ It's amaaaazing. It has everything I'd want if we had a big truck to haul it. I like the stove set up on one side w/big drawers on the other. The office is fabulous, but would want a bigger or pivoting desk set up for ease of use (back care). Great to have a storage ottomon; option for a second? Not sure I'd use the counter nearest hutch that closes off the kitchen. Bathroom definitely needs closed med cabinet AND linen area. And angle the toilet. Wonderful to have a destination-type trailer that can be moved! Thx Josh🎉
Great reviews as always Josh!! Thanks 🙏 I would have liked a bigger master bathroom with a large standup shower and do without the bunk room for me and hubby.
CONSIDERATIONS! First, I love your channel! It's the only RV channel I watch anymore. As for this RV. I absolutely LOVE it! It checks all my boxes and then some. It has quickly become my new first pick for our full time rv plans. Some notes though. *I think they've gone too big with the projector screen. It's impressive, but when you're that close, a screen that big can hurt your eyes, neck and shoulders. * Would be nice if the area where the projector is had a larger shelf for gaming consoles and DVDs. *They should have split shades. So you can close the bottom for privacy but keep the top ones open for light / airflow. *Wish you could take the sofa completely out of the bunk room. * Wish the closet in the bedroom had doors. * surprised it doesn't have a ladder for the patio * Wish there were covers for the cargo loops. My dogs and I always seen to catch a toe in them. Just some food for thought 😋
I'm sold on it. Could a rear awning be added to keep the drizzle off the patio? Were you able to get a measurement of the hauler space while it was all closed up?
lov this. Funny as the wife and i were watching we both said kill the slide and you almost have a winner. We have a ORV 24TRX and would not have any sort of rear deck without the 3 seasons doors. More times than not we leave it down the whole time we are camping. I think it really takes away from the enjoyment of the patio if you had to close it up each night, especially after a few adult beverages. figure out out to knock it down to 30-32 ft and its a winner!.
Intriguing TT. Indoor dining is unique. I guess you cannot do dishes as you eat. Two things I see. A shorter unit without the mid bunk room. The rear deck needs an awning.
This is interesting. I think a slideless version would still work quite well. I like the patio and privacy doors. Outside outlets might be a problem if it rains, though, especially without an awning. Not a deal breaker but they might want to look into it. While this can't haul a side by side, if it can handle an e-bike and a kayak, my needs are covered. The view from the seats is superb. This is one of those RVs that are wasted if all you can see is the next campsite over. Projection TV is a great idea, too. Kitchenwise, I'm okay with not having a propane oven. Putting it to the side is definitely the better move in general, although at least here the island gives plenty of prep space. A splashguard on the wall is a must, but that's an easy fix. I don't think many people would bother putting a TV in the kitchen when they have that awesome one just behind, but then I know a guy who still insists any car he buys have a tape deck installed. In my case, that hidden room would certainly be turned into an office setup, and any changes they make that improve performance would be appreciated. Shelves, outlets, drawers, etc. Not sure the hatch is particularly useful any role. Can't say I'm a fan of that weird bed, especially if it puts a crease where you least want one to be. I do like the alcove with adjustable shelves and washer prep. Overhead storage could use struts. Outside, I hope they have something to firmly attach steps in patio mode. The shelves could be useful. I don't think outside speakers are worth the trouble, but at least these are down low. I'd prefer to see slam latched on the passthrough storage. An extra solar port is always nice to have.
Will they be making one without that hidden bunk/storage room? I would love a shorter version of this! Love the patio and the windows are a bonus ❤ Thanks Neeeeerrrrrd!
Might be good choice for the individual or couple who likes to travel to motorcycle rallies. Or those with bikes/eBikes who wants to keep then secured.
First off i dont like that tiny round kitchen sink, i like the bigger drawers in the kitchen ive never used an air frier not sure id like one. Dont really need the small room unless i make it a dog kennel. The shower is a bit small, the tolite is weirdly placed. Dont need a king size bed, id change out to a standard queen who even makes sheets for an olympic queen? And how much? Of course i love theater seats, and the projector set up is a bit too much for me. I also up the solar. Thanks Josh for the great video.
Finally a multipurpose room that is functional. Great for my cat box.has heating and cooling not in floor huge plus. I like that access door with the lock on it. Kitchen sink is laughable! Please install a sink large enough to really use! There is ample space for a large sink due to all the other counters. Like the stove off to the side allowing more room for prep and a cookie sheet sized holding tray while cooking. Second tv in kitchen is a ok. Please rotate camode . Like to see some type of stops on the cabinets above bed - difficult to hold up and access things while balancing on the bed especially when older. Washer / dryer prep. Knocked that one out of the park. Yes on the combining the dumps. Concerned about those electrial on the patio where elements can cause issues. Does need a step set for patio. This alone would be a deal breaker for me. 7ft. Ceilings wow!. Great job!🎉
LOL you know when I first saw this those outside tables and windows made me think, Taco Truck, food for thought as a way to make a little money when camping. I like this not as a toy hauler but as a great TT with a rear patio. 100" screen will be great for those with poor eyesight, but wow can you imagine watching a movie on that or a football game, dang. I love the interior colors and that hidden room would be fantastic for bike storage especially for expensive bikes. We have carbon fiber bikes and leaving them outside not an issue here in Idaho but some other states not so much, so that "room" is superb. I must say that is a unique floorplan with really cool features.
Other than the lack of Propane oven, I love it!! I know I am speaking to a wall about the oven lol. I guess installing one aftermarket is not impossible.
It's not impossible necessarily but man.. spendy. We've had folks inquire on that thru our service departments before and I think only once have I seen someone actually follow thru with it
I love the multifunctional aspects of this. Nice to see the flip-ups giving more counter space. Not really a fan of the round sink in the island. Great amount of space for people to sleep. It's great there's that room hidden away, pretty good variety of uses! I always wonder how comfortable the bunk room beds are, or the ones in a traditional toyhauler, or would I need a few spare duvets to top them with lol
I like the stove off to the edge, but as I always comment, I would prefer a 2 burner stove top. This RV makes me want an rv space on a lake. I love the projector and all the windows. My wife says I can't have it unless she gets a medicine cabinet. Thanks for another great review.
I wish they could shrink it down by 4 feet keep middle bunk room and just put a hide a bed feature in place of 3 seating theater seat so it has half ton towability with 3 seasons rear door
I like what they are doing with the View series. The hidden bunk/utility room is a great idea. With the door to access it i could load my portable bbqs and generator in the trailer easily with the rear loading door closed. The road mode is nice. The projector is a neat twist on a tv and i could see it making rainy days a little easier. The rear patio is nice and makes it easy for entertaining as you are so close to the kitchen and you dont disturb sleeping kids when in use I would like to know if i could hook any of my gaming systems to it for an awrsome game night with the kiddos. You are right about the toilet - needs to be rotated a 1/4 turn to the left to make it feel bigger.
An interesting proposition. The window space is very nice. The saved space using a projector instead of a whole TV is another smart one. The bunk space is very utilitarian , and I can see needing to fairly constantly move things in and out of that space, so that would have to be a serious consideration for buyers. I like the washer/dryer prep, especially since so few TTs have it. I sure hope I wouldn't have to lift the unit UP onto a shelf, though. Those washer-dryer combo units are VERY HEAVY for their size and having to lift one up into that is not good for owners' backs or knees, but also bad for the trailer's center of gravity. My main gripes with this trailer: - Wood frame construction on steel beams (it sounds like, anyways), with additional structural concern for that all-window portion at the rear - Bad RV build habits - sloppy use of expanding foam and some other parts throughout make this look like good 2024 ideas executed with 2017-2023 cheapness. The exposed bed motor is another WTF cuz it will take mere minutes to break that when loading the pass-thru - A wall of mostly basic RV windows that, tinted or not, will absolutely irradiate the occupants and fight hard against the AC if the awning isn't open ALL the time - DUAL TANK DUMPS! I have a 5W with 2 and it is the one thing I absolutely hate, but my rig is much longer - Cargo tie-downs that seem to rise above floor level, which means they can be tripped on Overall, this trailer, cool features or not, looks like half as much time was spent designing and thinking it out than is spent on other new-concept units.
Yeah not needing to build a bunch of woodwork to create an entertainment center REALLY frees space up in it. It really makes me wonder what else might be possible with some thought behind it
For clarity it’s not dealers who make that decision There are still a large number of people like myself who almost exclusively park camp. The majority of current users actually park camp. Though there is no question dry camping and Boondocking, as growing a great deal in popularity. But there’s a lot of folks like me that don’t need 3000 extra dollars of hardware bolted to the roof of an RV that will provide very little actual use or benefit And the folks who want that equipment can still have it applied themselves
Areas like that are why they forced larger air, and fiberglass package, which includes tinted windows. Not every RV can necessarily solve for every user situation. I tried to bring to light. Those areas were RVs might not be functional for some folks. But to be fair, I do lack experience in those regions so I can estimate Since I recorded this, they have done some heat chamber testing and found they were able to maintain temperatures in the 70s inside while exterior temps were about 100 Obviously, in the really hot places that may not be sufficient, but that’s true of many RVs I think
Love the mother-in-law suite..LoL. I have a Can Am Three Wheeler 6ft width with at front. Do you think it would fit?...maybe backed in? I have GMC 1500 with small diesel 9800 towing cap.. your thoughts, I'm I pushing it?
I don't care for toy haulers; except for that great patio on the back. This RV provides a nice travel trailer with the patio and without the toy hauler-ness. There are only three caveats: The tiny kitchen sink and microwave-CONVECTION oven are non-starters. The sink is useless for anything beyond coffee cups. And no, a convection oven is not a suitable substitute for a propane oven. The third caveat is you can put the range-top all the way to the right, as displayed in the demo. But extend the back-splash to cover the wall to the right! Other than that, this design is nigh-on perfect.
I definitely agree on the sink for sure. This division also specializes in a lot of small trailers. And those smaller models that sink makes sense. And while I can respect, wanting to limit the number of different parts, they manage to streamline their process processes this does feel like a case, where the juice isworth the squeeze.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yup. Little sinks have their place; especially in smaller applications like truck campers, sub-20' trailers, and A-frames. In those design scenarios space conservation is key, allowing for amenities like kitchen drawer stacks, two- or three-burner ranges, real ovens, and/or 12V .fridges. One of the things I love about RVs is how creative the manufacturers can be in their efforts to provide so much in such limited spaces.
So i love this model. Don't love length. Really like bunk room. So i guess that makes it worth it. Like stove to side . Wish for oven. Sorry hate round sinks. Are these designers someone who has never washed, rinsed and had a dish drying rack ever? Usually your trying to conserve water to drink or wash with toy hauling because your boondocking. Is the tank less water heater propane also? Love bedroom. Thanks for showing this unit.
This is probably where the unit would really shine. Traveling around to parks and communities where a golf cart for transportation works just fine or is preferred. Don't have to use your giant truck just to drive short distances.
This one's pretty much a winner as is, though there are a few tweaks we would ask for. At the top of the list would be an option to delete the tie downs in the living area - we would be ok with it if that meant they would go away forever or would be a hassle to reinstall, but for us they would be a tripping hazard as they are right now. The hidden man cave was executed perfectly and we appreciate that the bench is long enough for the dog to sit beside me while I would be typing away in the comment sections of your videos in there. Thanks for the video and information, Uncle Josh!
Yeah the tie downs feel funny there but that’s probably a result of it being kinda a hauler too But.. it does kinda feel a lot less like a hauler and more a cool living room thing
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Damn, I wrote a stunning soliloquy on this trailer and lost it to the digital cosmos somehow… But yes, I need a 100” projection tv in my life and my rv. When not in use it takes up zero space anyways. Phenomenal windows but your point is valid, during Heat Miser season here in the SW there is not near enough a/c btu’s to cool that party barge. Of course we desert dwellers head to the pine forested mountains in hot season anyways. Cool bonus room too, sooo many possibilities for use. Tall showers make me giddy, but the toilet in this case does not. Decent bedroom and a really sweet patio deck. 👍🏻 I like it a lot.
Great unique build! @joshthervnerd I agree with the questioning the living/kitchen slide. If you remove the island and have no slide there, I think you could have more traditional tow hauler cargo space, maybe even small golf cart size, and would gain some cargo capacity from losing the slide. My thought against losing the slide, the projector probably hits the aspect ratio on the screen better with the distant the slide provides.
I am really loving seeing some of the innovation going on with some manufacturers in the industry. I love that they are getting rid of the traditional dining areas in favor of utilizing a bar type area for food prep and dining. Interesting concept adding a projector. I love the island/peninsula. The bonus room I would no longer need for an office (retired) nor do I need it for grandchildren staying over BUT I can see it as an awesome place to put my freezer and some of the larger 'crap' that I like to have with us!😁It is not in the length range we are looking at but we are not ready to buy yet either...so I look forward to more videos!
Something different! Love the projector. I can definitely see that picking up within the industry. The hideaway room is cool, if a bit tight. The trim on the Dutch door looked worrisome. Great concept though cuz, why not? Why are we displaying that second TV folks? That makes no sense if there will not even be an option for it. Put a mirror there or something. Overall this looks like a great set up. Would love to see one for half tons. It looks like that could be somewhat easily achieved given the unit can work so well with the slide in. Lop off the flex room and I think we’re about there. Though, admittedly, removing those features does take away a bit of this unit’s “specialness” (
Went a bit crazy with windows a 50amp dual a/c option would be essential. I've towed similar sized trailer with my half ton truck yes it's rated to tow that heavy but mountains might not be fun.
Please what is the price? Not on site either. I Love it all the windows great for herbs plants to outside. The office space. The only thing Is the sink in bathroom could be bigger nicer.
best garage area yet.. ya it wont take anything much bigger than a golf cart sized something or 4 wheeler or two with slide closed... but lots of toys do fit that size constraint..... but without toys in it, it is exactly the kind of thing i would want to do with that garage space myself, and would do if bought a different one.. take out happy jack off and all that put in a couch and projector screen or tv on wall and make a living room, always has been part of the plan if i got anything toy hauler ish. they did it for me on this one, would like to see more garages like this, especially in the smaller units this size and smaller where the garage is your living room anyway. tv in kitchen, yep i would put one there.. just because i can.
Ok, where do I start. I really like the whole "it's not a toy hauler, but it might be" thing. The hidden room is great, especially if I can possibly remove the bunks and use it as a full-time office. I'm a big home theater guy: What's going on with the sound bar over the seating? (insert buzzer sound here) Put the sound bar directly across from the seating where it belongs. Lose the tiny round sink. And why do the RV manufacturers have something against normal be dsizes? At least its not a "princess queen." All of the windows are great, but I'm going to be doing the vast majority of my RV time in Texas so I'll probably be enjoying something else. Here's an Idea! Make this without the top row of windows! Thanks for another outstanding video Uncle Josh!
The people running the display were hooked up to the Sandbar, and as they were moving around or clipping in and out of range, it was acting weird. Once they disconnected, it seemed fine.
I agree on the normal bed sizes thing. I’ve been kind of preaching that and relaying that to manufacturer. So many of them it seems to be such a surprise when I say it.
Love this unit, but the projector is a little over the top. You could should be out camping not watching TV. But if you are full timer, could understand that. Think the patio should come with steps though. Only thing to change is the toilet should be moved more in the middle.
Yeah this is a totally wild critter. I could see someone enjoying that projector at night after a day of horsing around. But during the day I'd be all about those windows and that patio
I Love the drop projection screen although I wonder how light from all the windows will affect it. That second TV spot seems ludicrous, but i applaud how they wired it for consumers' choice. The lack of LP quick connect seems misguided; shelves under the windows but nothing to accommodate outdoor cooking.
This is a really innovative unit. A mid bunk toy hauler travel trailer. Holy cow. So much to like here. Lots of space for the toys the non toy hauler crowd brings. A spacious kitchen, bunks with a side access door. Love the bendy bed for when you want to prop your head up to read. I like where they placed the stove don’t move it. But do install a surround back splash right Nerd? I really hate the circular sink in the kitchen. Let’s go large rectangular. I’m also a little worried about what looks like cloth couches in a toy hauler. I’d rather see a leather like finish. I’m also a little concerned about the amount of storage space in this unit. Is this unit 50A? If not it needs to be and a second 15k AC needs to be an option.
This is great. I completely love this RV's layout and everything. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the tiny bathroom sink and the round kitchen sink. I personally like the farmhouse sinks for the kitchen. As for the bathroom it needs a bit bigger sink then that. I can see anyone washing their hands or their face in that, and getting water all over the place. This is an awesome design idea.
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😊 But besides that we (my family & i) really like this RV. It's so awesome! We diff. is gona add this RV to the list of RV's we like to think about purchase some time in our future. Thank you so much Josh for showing off this awesome trailer.
Haven’t seen all of it yet, but I think it’s kind of funny when people say that is covered in windows, who cares. Dump the little windows up above and add storage up there.
I can honestly say that it's nice to see a manufacturer think of ideas outside the toy hauler ramp door solution. Now we have two! It's about time we had a manufacturer use a projector screen! Livinlite used to do a projector in their inflatable pop ups, nice to see it return!
Yeah, it feels like a thing people have asked for for a long time, but the RV industry has struggled to adopt. I’ve seen toy haulers tried a few times, but it was always for outside use and very gimmicky.
This is one of the first times I think it maybe has legs
I absolutely love this new floor plan. Having a patio space, and a private office space where I wouldn’t have to do any structural modifications is a game changer. I want it.❤❤❤
Glad you like it!
I would like to see a 5th wheel bunk house like this that had 14ft to find a 4 set side by side. That would be the perfect setup for my family.
I like the floor plan like a lot the only tweak I would like would be privacy blinds for the lower window so I could still get natural light and privacy
You know… I could see that
Meets and checks off a lot of our boxes, the hidden bunk room is perfect for ebike storage, or glamping dog kennel 😊, my husband likes the projection screen, me ,I could live without it , the 3 season door is a must have, we currently have a small “toy hauler “ travel trailer, love the patio but the bug screen and putting it up and down every day gets old, plus if it’s HOT, you’re leaving it up. I’d prefer a no slide, twin bed version,but I definitely could make this work, love it
My wife wrote the review, but we both love it
This is awesome feedback. Thank you very much. I look for feedback like this all the time, but rarely get it from folks.
This camper checks all my boxes. Has enough room for my Harley. Has 3 season doors and the bonus room would be great for our 2 huge dogs food and water bowls (less mess in the rest of the camper) its only missing an awning on the rear but thats not a deal breaker. We like that it dosent have an oven. Get one in stock in coldwater so I can come buy it! Not kidding!
I’ve seen some people do things like bring along an easy up screen room for those patios, which I think is a pretty solid solution
@@JoshtheRVNerd agreed thats why its not really a deal breaker for us. We are really excited about this unit. Cant wait to go see one in person.
I don't know how i missed this video. What a neat camper it marks alot of boxes, no oven, lots of windows, toy hauler party patio and soace for an office! I can't wait to see what other come up like this one!
Glad you enjoyed it
I walked through this today at an rv show. Move the kitchen sink to we’re the flat screen tv is taking up space. 86 the bunk room and put an east west bed in deep slide. Put a large outside camp kitchen with plumbed sink on the camp side on the bed room wall . I should have found a Forrest River rep to explain it. There was one rep that listened to my idea about 5th wheels with camp kitchens and putting a booth dinette so you could have storage under the booth to the outside.the ceiling could be about 2 ft taller for paddle board storage
A bed slide is a really interesting idea on this. Thank you.
I like the stove pushed all the way to the wall rather than centered. I think it’s better for meal prep rather than the skinny space(s) if it’s centered. Personally, I think the projector set up is way over the top, but to each his/her own.
Fair. It’s a crazy model that dares to do things differently
@@JoshtheRVNerd I like different!
This is great! I could see us upgrading to this model at some point. Love the 3 season doors in the back, how well the middle room can function as an office and the flip up counters allowing everything but the couch to be used at a travel stop (I think). We don’t haul toys, so we’d put some more storage under the projector screen. The FSX team has been coming out with some great models.
Yeah it’s weird but.. I like how it’s weird
Nice out of the box toy hauler floorplan with a decent sized living area, a bunk/office area and a great feature that allows you privacy and security when the patio is down👍although I would like to see more quality standard features such as a porcelain toilet to raise it to another level🙂
Totally agree!
Very unique and interesting! I like what they did with it. Oven pushed to the side is great. You can do a lot with this rig.
I would suggest more floor tie downs though.
Thank you Josh!
What seems like the right target number?
@@JoshtheRVNerd I would suggest 8 total. Placed in rows of 4 and evenly spaced front to rear. My apologies if they already have that many or more. I didn't see many of them.
Oh wow, I love the direction they went on this! Don't like the exposed outlets outside the 3 season patio, that's a miss for me, but the projector is awesome. I hope it has HDMI inputs? Be really cool if they put a slightly larger "shelf" up there or maybe even a small vented cabinet so you could hide a small game console or streaming box away nearby.
Bonus room is great, but is the giant fire escape door really necessary? I feel like an exit window would have done better and I don't like how it intrudes in such a small space, especially if you decide to go the office route instead of bunks.
My favorite part is definitely the "chaise lounge", I think more larger RVs need something like that which lets you stretch out and relax, sometimes the theater seats just don't offer the same versatility. Also love all the storage options in the bedroom.
Ty Mr. Nick!
I Love It! Cant wait to get a look at this coach. Hopefully it will be at the Tampa Super show.
A bit more closet space & DEFINITELY a single sewer hookup. 🤞
"Such a fine line between clever and.....stupid"
David St Hubbins
This is really cool. If there was no utiliroom, it wouldn't be particularly long either.
I also like that they didn't go with the automotive style furniture that you often see in toy haulers.
Two thumbs up for being interesting! 👍 👍
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WOW‼️ It's amaaaazing. It has everything I'd want if we had a big truck to haul it. I like the stove set up on one side w/big drawers on the other. The office is fabulous, but would want a bigger or pivoting desk set up for ease of use (back care). Great to have a storage ottomon; option for a second? Not sure I'd use the counter nearest hutch that closes off the kitchen. Bathroom definitely needs closed med cabinet AND linen area. And angle the toilet.
Wonderful to have a destination-type trailer that can be moved! Thx Josh🎉
My pleasure! TY for watching :)
I love this. My wife would like a larger farm sink in the island & preferably a oven instead of microwave.
Those are pretty reasonable asks I think
Great reviews as always Josh!! Thanks 🙏
I would have liked a bigger master bathroom with a large standup shower and do without the bunk room for me and hubby.
Bonus room. Office mode - where are the plugs? Multi Monitor setup + laptop...needs multiple power points.
"Mother-in-law suite" is the best line you've ever had!
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CONSIDERATIONS!
First, I love your channel! It's the only RV channel I watch anymore.
As for this RV. I absolutely LOVE it! It checks all my boxes and then some. It has quickly become my new first pick for our full time rv plans.
Some notes though.
*I think they've gone too big with the projector screen. It's impressive, but when you're that close, a screen that big can hurt your eyes, neck and shoulders.
* Would be nice if the area where the projector is had a larger shelf for gaming consoles and DVDs.
*They should have split shades. So you can close the bottom for privacy but keep the top ones open for light / airflow.
*Wish you could take the sofa completely out of the bunk room.
* Wish the closet in the bedroom had doors.
* surprised it doesn't have a ladder for the patio
* Wish there were covers for the cargo loops. My dogs and I always seen to catch a toe in them.
Just some food for thought 😋
wow.. THANK YOU for the kind words!!
I'm reading thru your considerations and.. I think I agree pretty much across the board
Thanks Nerd, that'd be pretty awesome in a 5th wheel model!
I agree! TY :)
I'm sold on it. Could a rear awning be added to keep the drizzle off the patio? Were you able to get a measurement of the hauler space while it was all closed up?
Factory doesn’t offer a rear awning. Not sure what aftermarket options are out there
Love the innovation this group is doing. Great idea with the projector.
We agree!
Interesting travel trailer
Omg… this is exactly what I’ve been looking for!
Nice 😊
lov this. Funny as the wife and i were watching we both said kill the slide and you almost have a winner. We have a ORV 24TRX and would not have any sort of rear deck without the 3 seasons doors. More times than not we leave it down the whole time we are camping. I think it really takes away from the enjoyment of the patio if you had to close it up each night, especially after a few adult beverages. figure out out to knock it down to 30-32 ft and its a winner!.
Thx Tom! :)
Nice ORV btw. They make solid rigs
Intriguing TT. Indoor dining is unique. I guess you cannot do dishes as you eat. Two things I see. A shorter unit without the mid bunk room. The rear deck needs an awning.
Good stuff Ty
I think a shallow depth fire place under the window across from the couch would have been nice.
Interesting idea Ty
I have been looking at new campers and I really like this one
Glad you like it :)
Very cool!
I like the stove the way it is. I would like a no slide model.
Could be really interesting
Will they make a non bunk room? I love this this!! Way to go Josh!!
That would be an intersting option for a larger bathroom and kitchen
At 2:48 Josh's stunt double comes into frame.
Lot of folks running around that display that day
Stove needs room on the right side. I had a stove right next to a fridge before it was NOT fun. Is there a fan in the bathroom for condensation?
This is interesting. I think a slideless version would still work quite well. I like the patio and privacy doors. Outside outlets might be a problem if it rains, though, especially without an awning. Not a deal breaker but they might want to look into it. While this can't haul a side by side, if it can handle an e-bike and a kayak, my needs are covered.
The view from the seats is superb. This is one of those RVs that are wasted if all you can see is the next campsite over. Projection TV is a great idea, too.
Kitchenwise, I'm okay with not having a propane oven. Putting it to the side is definitely the better move in general, although at least here the island gives plenty of prep space. A splashguard on the wall is a must, but that's an easy fix. I don't think many people would bother putting a TV in the kitchen when they have that awesome one just behind, but then I know a guy who still insists any car he buys have a tape deck installed.
In my case, that hidden room would certainly be turned into an office setup, and any changes they make that improve performance would be appreciated. Shelves, outlets, drawers, etc. Not sure the hatch is particularly useful any role.
Can't say I'm a fan of that weird bed, especially if it puts a crease where you least want one to be. I do like the alcove with adjustable shelves and washer prep. Overhead storage could use struts.
Outside, I hope they have something to firmly attach steps in patio mode. The shelves could be useful. I don't think outside speakers are worth the trouble, but at least these are down low. I'd prefer to see slam latched on the passthrough storage. An extra solar port is always nice to have.
This is actually really well thought out and reasonable input. Thank you for this. Some of the best feedback of this video I think.
❤it! Totally 😎 x 100!
Will they be making one without that hidden bunk/storage room? I would love a shorter version of this! Love the patio and the windows are a bonus ❤
Thanks Neeeeerrrrrd!
Some models perhaps but this layout has that feature always
I think this is the model I'll be looking for in a year.
☺
Might be good choice for the individual or couple who likes to travel to motorcycle rallies. Or those with bikes/eBikes who wants to keep then secured.
Yeah, it almost strikes me as less of a toy hauler and a little more of a awkward object hauler. Like E bikes, that you mentioned.
As someone that primarily boondocks I would rather have a conventional propane RV range.
👍🏻 Ty
First off i dont like that tiny round kitchen sink, i like the bigger drawers in the kitchen ive never used an air frier not sure id like one. Dont really need the small room unless i make it a dog kennel. The shower is a bit small, the tolite is weirdly placed. Dont need a king size bed, id change out to a standard queen who even makes sheets for an olympic queen? And how much? Of course i love theater seats, and the projector set up is a bit too much for me. I also up the solar. Thanks Josh for the great video.
Yes, that little round sink jumped out at me as a big miss.
Olympic queen beds are less common but there are some suppliers you can look up to find sheets
@judithmoore7892 right??? Huge rv and they put a tiny sink in it
@@lindacalderon6417 Yeah, humungous TV, tiny sink. Must have been designed by a man. 😆Just kidding, men.
Remove the spare room and make it 1/2 ton towable...you could even remove the slide if needed. That would be perfect for us.
I like the idea. I think more would need to shrink down to make it half ton towable
Finally a multipurpose room that is functional. Great for my cat box.has heating and cooling not in floor huge plus. I like that access door with the lock on it. Kitchen sink is laughable! Please install a sink large enough to really use! There is ample space for a large sink due to all the other counters. Like the stove off to the side allowing more room for prep and a cookie sheet sized holding tray while cooking. Second tv in kitchen is a ok. Please rotate camode . Like to see some type of stops on the cabinets above bed - difficult to hold up and access things while balancing on the bed especially when older. Washer / dryer prep. Knocked that one out of the park. Yes on the combining the dumps. Concerned about those electrial on the patio where elements can cause issues. Does need a step set for patio. This alone would be a deal breaker for me. 7ft. Ceilings wow!. Great job!🎉
Hi Laura, thanks for watching! I’m glad you like it. I appreciate the time you took to write this up.
I like the microwave off to the side assuming that makes it accessible with the counter flipped down when the slide is closed.
I think I have footage of the side closed for you
LOL you know when I first saw this those outside tables and windows made me think, Taco Truck, food for thought as a way to make a little money when camping. I like this not as a toy hauler but as a great TT with a rear patio. 100" screen will be great for those with poor eyesight, but wow can you imagine watching a movie on that or a football game, dang. I love the interior colors and that hidden room would be fantastic for bike storage especially for expensive bikes. We have carbon fiber bikes and leaving them outside not an issue here in Idaho but some other states not so much, so that "room" is superb. I must say that is a unique floorplan with really cool features.
Listen… You had me at tacos
Other than the lack of Propane oven, I love it!!
I know I am speaking to a wall about the oven lol.
I guess installing one aftermarket is not impossible.
It's not impossible necessarily but man.. spendy. We've had folks inquire on that thru our service departments before and I think only once have I seen someone actually follow thru with it
Sad I love the oven also.
Missed you today at the Indy RV show Josh
I’ll be there for the 2nd week
Pretty cool. I would prefer no slide. Probably have more cargo room and projector could be set up to work from a shorter throw distance probably.
Cool idea
i love it!
How long is that bunk and that toom? Might be an option domlove the projector setup.
Great video Josh
Thanks!
Beautiful!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
I wonder if the electical privacy film covered windows would work here
I love the multifunctional aspects of this. Nice to see the flip-ups giving more counter space. Not really a fan of the round sink in the island. Great amount of space for people to sleep.
It's great there's that room hidden away, pretty good variety of uses! I always wonder how comfortable the bunk room beds are, or the ones in a traditional toyhauler, or would I need a few spare duvets to top them with lol
Agree on that round sink. It's the biggest "ugh" i had with it
I like the stove off to the edge, but as I always comment, I would prefer a 2 burner stove top. This RV makes me want an rv space on a lake. I love the projector and all the windows. My wife says I can't have it unless she gets a medicine cabinet. Thanks for another great review.
I like a smaller stove myself as well
I want this one!
The actual production version is actually even smexier! They added a nose cap with windshield and it just looks amazing
Different is always good! Great job and all of your hard work is appreciated Josh & Crew!
Cheers!
Much appreciated!
It’s perfect except that it needs a real oven and bigger sink. The bonus room would be a perfect walk in closet for someone with lots of clothing (me)
I wish they could shrink it down by 4 feet keep middle bunk room and just put a hide a bed feature in place of 3 seating theater seat so it has half ton towability with 3 seasons rear door
I love that more manufacturers are realizing you don’t have to have a toy hauler to have the garage door!
Right?!
I like what they are doing with the View series.
The hidden bunk/utility room is a great idea. With the door to access it i could load my portable bbqs and generator in the trailer easily with the rear loading door closed.
The road mode is nice.
The projector is a neat twist on a tv and i could see it making rainy days a little easier.
The rear patio is nice and makes it easy for entertaining as you are so close to the kitchen and you dont disturb sleeping kids when in use
I would like to know if i could hook any of my gaming systems to it for an awrsome game night with the kiddos.
You are right about the toilet - needs to be rotated a 1/4 turn to the left to make it feel bigger.
Yeah you could make it a family game night. I had the same idea
An interesting proposition. The window space is very nice. The saved space using a projector instead of a whole TV is another smart one. The bunk space is very utilitarian , and I can see needing to fairly constantly move things in and out of that space, so that would have to be a serious consideration for buyers. I like the washer/dryer prep, especially since so few TTs have it. I sure hope I wouldn't have to lift the unit UP onto a shelf, though. Those washer-dryer combo units are VERY HEAVY for their size and having to lift one up into that is not good for owners' backs or knees, but also bad for the trailer's center of gravity.
My main gripes with this trailer:
- Wood frame construction on steel beams (it sounds like, anyways), with additional structural concern for that all-window portion at the rear
- Bad RV build habits - sloppy use of expanding foam and some other parts throughout make this look like good 2024 ideas executed with 2017-2023 cheapness. The exposed bed motor is another WTF cuz it will take mere minutes to break that when loading the pass-thru
- A wall of mostly basic RV windows that, tinted or not, will absolutely irradiate the occupants and fight hard against the AC if the awning isn't open ALL the time
- DUAL TANK DUMPS! I have a 5W with 2 and it is the one thing I absolutely hate, but my rig is much longer
- Cargo tie-downs that seem to rise above floor level, which means they can be tripped on
Overall, this trailer, cool features or not, looks like half as much time was spent designing and thinking it out than is spent on other new-concept units.
Yeah not needing to build a bunch of woodwork to create an entertainment center REALLY frees space up in it. It really makes me wonder what else might be possible with some thought behind it
Are these structural body strong with all the new windows in less body in the back?
The irony is there’s more structure in a model like this due to how they frame out windows
100" screen is crazy big for sitting that close. It would be like sitting in the first row of seats in the theatre. Some times it's just too much.
When there is so much roof space why are these dealers being so cheap with adding solar packages?
For clarity it’s not dealers who make that decision
There are still a large number of people like myself who almost exclusively park camp. The majority of current users actually park camp. Though there is no question dry camping and Boondocking, as growing a great deal in popularity.
But there’s a lot of folks like me that don’t need 3000 extra dollars of hardware bolted to the roof of an RV that will provide very little actual use or benefit
And the folks who want that equipment can still have it applied themselves
Mother in law suite! 😄😂😅😆😉🤗
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait a minute Josh. You telling me they didn’t consider the hotbox states like Tx/Az ? 🙄
Areas like that are why they forced larger air, and fiberglass package, which includes tinted windows. Not every RV can necessarily solve for every user situation. I tried to bring to light. Those areas were RVs might not be functional for some folks. But to be fair, I do lack experience in those regions so I can estimate
Since I recorded this, they have done some heat chamber testing and found they were able to maintain temperatures in the 70s inside while exterior temps were about 100
Obviously, in the really hot places that may not be sufficient, but that’s true of many RVs I think
Love the mother-in-law suite..LoL. I have a Can Am Three Wheeler 6ft width with at front. Do you think it would fit?...maybe backed in? I have GMC 1500 with small diesel 9800 towing cap.. your thoughts, I'm I pushing it?
I absolutely would not pair this with that vehicle
I don't care for toy haulers; except for that great patio on the back. This RV provides a nice travel trailer with the patio and without the toy hauler-ness. There are only three caveats: The tiny kitchen sink and microwave-CONVECTION oven are non-starters. The sink is useless for anything beyond coffee cups. And no, a convection oven is not a suitable substitute for a propane oven. The third caveat is you can put the range-top all the way to the right, as displayed in the demo. But extend the back-splash to cover the wall to the right!
Other than that, this design is nigh-on perfect.
I definitely agree on the sink for sure. This division also specializes in a lot of small trailers. And those smaller models that sink makes sense. And while I can respect, wanting to limit the number of different parts, they manage to streamline their process processes this does feel like a case, where the juice isworth the squeeze.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yup. Little sinks have their place; especially in smaller applications like truck campers, sub-20' trailers, and A-frames. In those design scenarios space conservation is key, allowing for amenities like kitchen drawer stacks, two- or three-burner ranges, real ovens, and/or 12V .fridges. One of the things I love about RVs is how creative the manufacturers can be in their efforts to provide so much in such limited spaces.
So i love this model. Don't love length. Really like bunk room. So i guess that makes it worth it. Like stove to side . Wish for oven. Sorry hate round sinks. Are these designers someone who has never washed, rinsed and had a dish drying rack ever? Usually your trying to conserve water to drink or wash with toy hauling because your boondocking. Is the tank less water heater propane also? Love bedroom. Thanks for showing this unit.
Yeah I think these are now all on demand water heaters
Golf cart fit?
I think most would
This is probably where the unit would really shine. Traveling around to parks and communities where a golf cart for transportation works just fine or is preferred. Don't have to use your giant truck just to drive short distances.
This one's pretty much a winner as is, though there are a few tweaks we would ask for. At the top of the list would be an option to delete the tie downs in the living area - we would be ok with it if that meant they would go away forever or would be a hassle to reinstall, but for us they would be a tripping hazard as they are right now. The hidden man cave was executed perfectly and we appreciate that the bench is long enough for the dog to sit beside me while I would be typing away in the comment sections of your videos in there. Thanks for the video and information, Uncle Josh!
Yeah the tie downs feel funny there but that’s probably a result of it being kinda a hauler too
But.. it does kinda feel a lot less like a hauler and more a cool living room thing
I think a no slide version would be interesting
I think so too..
@JoshtheRVNerd if salem does a no slide version with a rear patio rear similar to the Valor you covered yesterday I think it be popular
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#NerdHerd 🎉 😊 ❤ 🎉
Ty buddy
This would work for me to haul my disability scooter.
I could totally see that. Are those able to make the Ramp incline for loading?
@JoshtheRVNerd I believe mine would make it up, not sure about others.
Damn, I wrote a stunning soliloquy on this trailer and lost it to the digital cosmos somehow…
But yes, I need a 100” projection tv in my life and my rv. When not in use it takes up zero space anyways. Phenomenal windows but your point is valid, during Heat Miser season here in the SW there is not near enough a/c btu’s to cool that party barge. Of course we desert dwellers head to the pine forested mountains in hot season anyways. Cool bonus room too, sooo many possibilities for use. Tall showers make me giddy, but the toilet in this case does not. Decent bedroom and a really sweet patio deck. 👍🏻
I like it a lot.
Man, I’ve done that so many times. It’s so frustrating.
Can you provide any help on how to connect this to bluetooth?
Not remotely I’m afraid. Thats something I’d need to fiddle with in person
Great unique build! @joshthervnerd I agree with the questioning the living/kitchen slide. If you remove the island and have no slide there, I think you could have more traditional tow hauler cargo space, maybe even small golf cart size, and would gain some cargo capacity from losing the slide. My thought against losing the slide, the projector probably hits the aspect ratio on the screen better with the distant the slide provides.
Yeah, it’s an interesting idea to me
Hey Josh. Been watching for awhile now and love the content. Any chance you can get your hands on a 24 sabre 32bht for review?
Thanks
I’ll have to double check to see if we keep Saber in our lineup anywhere. I’m happy to record anything that we can stock at even one of our stores
I am really loving seeing some of the innovation going on with some manufacturers in the industry. I love that they are getting rid of the traditional dining areas in favor of utilizing a bar type area for food prep and dining. Interesting concept adding a projector. I love the island/peninsula. The bonus room I would no longer need for an office (retired) nor do I need it for grandchildren staying over BUT I can see it as an awesome place to put my freezer and some of the larger 'crap' that I like to have with us!😁It is not in the length range we are looking at but we are not ready to buy yet either...so I look forward to more videos!
Ooh.. freezer for long term storage.. didn’t even think of something like that
Great place for a freezer.
Something different! Love the projector. I can definitely see that picking up within the industry. The hideaway room is cool, if a bit tight. The trim on the Dutch door looked worrisome. Great concept though cuz, why not? Why are we displaying that second TV folks? That makes no sense if there will not even be an option for it. Put a mirror there or something. Overall this looks like a great set up. Would love to see one for half tons. It looks like that could be somewhat easily achieved given the unit can work so well with the slide in. Lop off the flex room and I think we’re about there. Though, admittedly, removing those features does take away a bit of this unit’s “specialness” (
The dual tv display was confusing to me but .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Went a bit crazy with windows a 50amp dual a/c option would be essential. I've towed similar sized trailer with my half ton truck yes it's rated to tow that heavy but mountains might not be fun.
I'd probably do the dual A/C myself as well
Not bad! I take it the couch doesn’t make into a bed?
It does not fold open specifically if that’s what you’re asking. It is long enough that a single person could definitely crash there.
@@JoshtheRVNerd that’s true! Awesome 👏
Please what is the price? Not on site either. I Love it all the windows great for herbs plants to outside. The office space. The only thing Is the sink in bathroom could be bigger nicer.
Apologies I am not in sales and lack a pricing file. Our team at www.bishs.com/contact-us can assist
Thanks I found it. Is this length with the porch out? 36" ? Or with in ? Thanks
best garage area yet.. ya it wont take anything much bigger than a golf cart sized something or 4 wheeler or two with slide closed... but lots of toys do fit that size constraint..... but without toys in it, it is exactly the kind of thing i would want to do with that garage space myself, and would do if bought a different one.. take out happy jack off and all that put in a couch and projector screen or tv on wall and make a living room, always has been part of the plan if i got anything toy hauler ish. they did it for me on this one, would like to see more garages like this, especially in the smaller units this size and smaller where the garage is your living room anyway. tv in kitchen, yep i would put one there.. just because i can.
This one feels a lot less like a hauler hauler to me and a lot more of a sort of rolling hotel suite with a walk out patio
@@JoshtheRVNerd right... more like a living room you can park the motorcycle in .
Ok, where do I start. I really like the whole "it's not a toy hauler, but it might be" thing. The hidden room is great, especially if I can possibly remove the bunks and use it as a full-time office. I'm a big home theater guy: What's going on with the sound bar over the seating? (insert buzzer sound here) Put the sound bar directly across from the seating where it belongs. Lose the tiny round sink. And why do the RV manufacturers have something against normal be dsizes? At least its not a "princess queen." All of the windows are great, but I'm going to be doing the vast majority of my RV time in Texas so I'll probably be enjoying something else. Here's an Idea! Make this without the top row of windows! Thanks for another outstanding video Uncle Josh!
The people running the display were hooked up to the Sandbar, and as they were moving around or clipping in and out of range, it was acting weird. Once they disconnected, it seemed fine.
I agree on the normal bed sizes thing. I’ve been kind of preaching that and relaying that to manufacturer. So many of them it seems to be such a surprise when I say it.
🎉#NerdHerd.....
Love this unit, but the projector is a little over the top. You could should be out camping not watching TV. But if you are full timer, could understand that. Think the patio should come with steps though. Only thing to change is the toilet should be moved more in the middle.
Yeah this is a totally wild critter. I could see someone enjoying that projector at night after a day of horsing around. But during the day I'd be all about those windows and that patio
I Love the drop projection screen although I wonder how light from all the windows will affect it. That second TV spot seems ludicrous, but i applaud how they wired it for consumers' choice. The lack of LP quick connect seems misguided; shelves under the windows but nothing to accommodate outdoor cooking.
During the day with all the blackouts drawn it was alright. At night is when it would really shine
Josh how good is the body flex on these new views
These are only entering production but FSX has been making models like this for a while and I haven’t heard of that being an issue
This is a really innovative unit. A mid bunk toy hauler travel trailer. Holy cow.
So much to like here. Lots of space for the toys the non toy hauler crowd brings. A spacious kitchen, bunks with a side access door. Love the bendy bed for when you want to prop your head up to read.
I like where they placed the stove don’t move it. But do install a surround back splash right Nerd?
I really hate the circular sink in the kitchen. Let’s go large rectangular. I’m also a little worried about what looks like cloth couches in a toy hauler. I’d rather see a leather like finish. I’m also a little concerned about the amount of storage space in this unit.
Is this unit 50A? If not it needs to be and a second 15k AC needs to be an option.
Yeah 50amp standard on these. They're also using that RV Airflow system to help keep her cool with all thosewindows
nice
This is great. I completely love this RV's layout and everything. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the tiny bathroom sink and the round kitchen sink. I personally like the farmhouse sinks for the kitchen. As for the bathroom it needs a bit bigger sink then that. I can see anyone washing their hands or their face in that, and getting water all over the place. This is an awesome design idea.
Agreed. Not my favorite sink for this setup
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😊 But besides that we (my family & i) really like this RV. It's so awesome! We diff. is gona add this RV to the list of RV's we like to think about purchase some time in our future. Thank you so much Josh for showing off this awesome trailer.
30 or 50 amp service?
50
Haven’t seen all of it yet, but I think it’s kind of funny when people say that is covered in windows, who cares. Dump the little windows up above and add storage up there.
Can you full time in this RV???
I’ve seen people full time in 16ft little boxes. It’s more about personal preference and tolerance
They got a lot of things right. Hot or cold, too many windows. That top row of windows, needs to go.
YES! What is with the idea that the more windows the better! I don't want to live in a glass house!