Actually I remember seeing Leo say that his play with joker is only 60% of his skill meaning that joker is one of the only characters that Leo could be this consistent with
I think Wishes was starting to fall victim to nerves in that last game. Mk had already started adapting and it's easy to let your guard down or enter a haze when you're up a game on such an accomplished player.
I dont think he got nervous...it was just that leo started to adapt AND started to "try hard" I dont want to take the credit from wishes...he played freaking incredible but in the end Leo knew he was better by a huge margin.
@@lovelypanda111 I don't fully agree. I think he was playing significantly worst in the last match then he was at the first. I didn't feel the same energy.
@@marche800 cus he knew he was getting played, Leo even smiled after loosing cus he knew he was getting in his head and all it takes is one tilt. Mad respect tho
it's easy to build up momentum in the first two games, especially when you have a lead. but when it comes to match game the pressure to seal the deal becomes nerve wrecking. it's like you trying to play passively at the end b.c you know it's the final round and you don't want to screw up, like that fall in the second round... that you ended up throwing the match altogether.
I main Pokémon Trainer and MKLEO is one of my (if not my very) favorite player(s). Naturally, I was attracted to this set. I won't spoil too much, but fellow smash brothers, if you enjoy watching either of these players or characters, you are going to enjoy this set.
An amazing set. Both fought very well. In the end, MkLeo was just more experienced and adaptable. You can see the moment where he learned enough to counter PT's playstyle. That's what makes him a top tier player.
Why do announcers always think they’re taking a deep breath or break or something when waiting on the platform after dying to arsene. They’re waiting out the timer.
It's actually better to use the 2 seconds of invincibility to hit joker and lower the timer on Arsene. A simple grab 2 pummels and throw follow up can half the 30 seconds of Arsene to 15 easy
Bruh Wishes face is the most hilarious thing lmao 😂 When he was beating Leo he looked so hyped 😂😂 he looks like that regular degular dude who got lucky and is yelling at his head: "OMG I can't believe it, I got this, I got this, I got this... YOLO!!!!!?? WOOO!" 😂
@@Thecreeperboombox Joker is possibly a losing matchup for Peach, a lot of Peaches seem to think. He bodies her in neutral and she has the damage to give him Arsene, but contrary to what a lot of people think she can't kill well unless it's off of ledge trapping or fair if she has a read or it just hits (because it's the size of a planet). And now that's even more true since in 3.1, bthrow and fair got nerfed.
I love Leo but i was really surprised by wishes performance in def gonna watch more of him he makes me wanna pick up trainer. Wishes is so crazy good a fantastic player
wow i'm impressed with wishes' decision making in the sets he won. unlike tweek, he had perfect focus, knew where to be and when to be there, managed to keep the advantage against leo, who is a very technical player who rarely makes mistakes. those were really good games for wishes.
Smash commentators, please study this commentary. Accurate and revealing observations, in depth meta discussion, framing the match (I.e. Talking about the players in a way that's relevant to the match), and professionalism.. Very impressed. Clearly this isn't Al Michaels and John Madden, but this is a blueprint for the way you should commentate a smash match. Yeah, about four people will read this post, but I know I'm right
Make sure you have a junp left when your off the stage or just be in range for when you fast fall. Off stage you up B to tether to ledge and immediately press down and you'll lose the tether. Choice is to jump and tether again or just tether again if your in range.
@@axreviewsandanimations3082 If you wanna think it's about the money, go ahead. To me it just seems like "the greatest smash player" retired as he started losing a lot and people can't get over it
Wishes encouraging the crowd in the beginning only to lose the bracket is like someone teabagging at the beginning of the match only to lose. Wishes played well but I believe he let the hype get to his head.
I'm going to be honest, this is an amazing set and wishes is an amazing player but his squirtle bothers me to no end. As a PT main he is making squirtle mistakes that should have been ironed out week 1 and it confusing seeing them after 7 months of being out. It's actually to the point that without these mistakes wishes could have won handily, that's how big some of the mistakes where. Also yet another game that does to show never trust commentators when PT is involved. Alot of outright falsehoods spoken in this match.
If you analyze the games that Wishes won vs the ones he lost: on the first ones he changed the pokemon a lot. In the ones he lost he almost always leaned on Ivysaur, which made him predictable.
Tournaments in smash 4: "Everyone abuses the broken mess that Is Bayonetta and the competitors fuck around just to piss off people" Tournaments in smash ultimate: "People try their best with the character they love and make a great show to watch".
Down air is a spike, so early kills are kind of a given Up air as a kill I am fine with because he has limited kill options without it honestly the thing to complain about is their hitboxes, which are absurdly large, granted I don't find this that much of an issue either
Leo giving this man false hope just to tear him down last game
Keep dreaming boy
The crowd got to him
Gave him some WISHES
Alexandre Chevrier lmao leo gave him false wishes
Leo didn’t give him false hope, Leo got outplayed
To say this was actually the closest match Leo had during the whole tournament..!
And by far !
This match was better than grand finals lmao
Watch Zackray vs Mkleo
@@theyakima4184 He said during that specific tournament, the SSC or Frostbite sets have no baring on his comment.
smash is so much better to watch with a loud crowd. feels more like a sport
@LA BLACK ROSE esport
I know right I get so into it
feel a bit bad for leo though, the crowd would usually be against him, which is what happens to all top players. He is used to it though
@@_Dumb_Answers I guess the crowd is wanting to see someone new on top?
I get distracted
Give it up for Wishes, only one that was able to take two games from Leo
that 1st match finish was fucking CRISP.
RIP MARS totally forgotten
Marss made it!
Alvin D Lol Now marss, Kameme, and Samsora,
edit: and samsora again.
crazy how dominant leo is, to the point where being able to take more than one game off of him is considered impressive lmao
And this is why, as a Joker main, I have accepted MKLeo as my new god.
and this is why, as a tier whore, i have bandwagoned on a top player.
@@willmalony7712 toasted
@@willmalony7712 ouch salty git gud kid
i made this comment a month ago as a joke haha, jokers busted but i accept how good leo is, he can win with really anyone
Actually I remember seeing Leo say that his play with joker is only 60% of his skill meaning that joker is one of the only characters that Leo could be this consistent with
Leo: *a n a l y s i s c o m p l e t e*
Damn he gave Leo more trouble than anyone else. Plot armor is strong with Leo though. Ggwp
I think Wishes was starting to fall victim to nerves in that last game. Mk had already started adapting and it's easy to let your guard down or enter a haze when you're up a game on such an accomplished player.
It happens to me when I know im gonna lose. Like ill try and duke it out but when I have that thought in my head it usually ends up happening. Lol
I dont think he got nervous...it was just that leo started to adapt AND started to "try hard"
I dont want to take the credit from wishes...he played freaking incredible but in the end Leo knew he was better by a huge margin.
@@lovelypanda111 I don't fully agree. I think he was playing significantly worst in the last match then he was at the first. I didn't feel the same energy.
@@marche800 cus he knew he was getting played, Leo even smiled after loosing cus he knew he was getting in his head and all it takes is one tilt. Mad respect tho
it's easy to build up momentum in the first two games, especially when you have a lead. but when it comes to match game the pressure to seal the deal becomes nerve wrecking. it's like you trying to play passively at the end b.c you know it's the final round and you don't want to screw up, like that fall in the second round... that you ended up throwing the match altogether.
Bro I’m deadass just watching Wishes lose a bunch of tournaments cause of that Luigi tweet LMAO
Same lol. Might I recommend Wishes vs Marss game 5 replay, extra juicy.
Lmao, imagine being Wishes. 😂
Then don't watch this one because this actually highlights his skill.
Ikr ever since I heard of wishes and his goons I hated them all and If he see this or something (doubt it) he can go f himself
Case Filled what’s the story behind this guy?
12:27 MkLeo: “well, I guess I’ll actually try now.”
Now he will try
More like, now I've started to be able to adapt
@@eggnogsaber more like "let me try now"
@@swagchomp more like "let's get to 20% of my power"
Carlos Garza time to take off the mask
I was really rooting for wishes, but leos plot armor kicked in
Yes my favorite stand
VCorleone 1 ARSENE
he was at the legendary percent 13:21
T.S.Isaac 15 nice
@@t.s.isaac1516 nice
Even tho the whole crowds cheered for wishes, Leo’s Joker is still amazing!
Most people cheer for the underdog, Makes it interesting if they win
I cheered for leo
I cheered for Leo. I've been waiting for him to come back.
He's literally the reason Zero retired.
@@owlflame Not really....
@@danieltaylor1424 Zero retired because he started getting bad results. Because MKLeo showed up and started beating his ass.
Lets get some respect for my man wishes
Fuck wishes
Fuck danger man
@@SG-xn2rb im with you, fuck him!!!
@@CM_CHESS im a bit out of the loop. Why do people hate wishes?
Fuck wishes
3:30 Ivysaur was the real thief I never saw it coming
Wishes' mind was tpo fast for my eyes
Had me done in
Can we PLEASE see more Wishes vs MKLeo matches? This was the MOST hype set of the tournament imo.
Its hard to be the best.
I main Pokémon Trainer and MKLEO is one of my (if not my very) favorite player(s). Naturally, I was attracted to this set. I won't spoil too much, but fellow smash brothers, if you enjoy watching either of these players or characters, you are going to enjoy this set.
You sound like a bandwagon fan.
@@carsoncoley1 I might sound like it, but I have been a fan of Leo for 3-4 years now.
I think Leo kinda just figured him out by the end, but Wishes played an excellent set, mad respect for him
An amazing set. Both fought very well. In the end, MkLeo was just more experienced and adaptable. You can see the moment where he learned enough to counter PT's playstyle. That's what makes him a top tier player.
PT?
*both players 2/2 going on to the final game*
Leo: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
Why do announcers always think they’re taking a deep breath or break or something when waiting on the platform after dying to arsene. They’re waiting out the timer.
Please point me to the set when the timer drops to zero. I have yet to see it in ultimate.
Unless you’re referring to arsene.
Biffyguy Biffy the arsene timer yeah
That's still technically taking a break lol ur just getting a bonus from it to for clocking down the gauge timer
It's actually better to use the 2 seconds of invincibility to hit joker and lower the timer on Arsene. A simple grab 2 pummels and throw follow up can half the 30 seconds of Arsene to 15 easy
@@10XSeiga no this also takes the momentum out of MkLeo. Waiting has more than 1 purpose.
That was a great set.
The 360p be looking hella fine
I like the respect that Wishes has towards Leo on those matches. Unlike any other players, he just smiles whenever he loses a stock. Very nice of him.
Leo is super amazing. I love watching him win.
He’s got the best demeanor for a champion as well.
12:01
You can see the mix of nerves and excitement build up from Wishes. Sad he lost! only one game away :/
Alan Alva nah he deserved it after what he said to that Luigi.
Dear god, that is some quality Joker
0:57 KING CRIMSON
MkLeo improved SO MUCH with his Joker after 1 year
LOL first game wishes win the commentators yell "that's highway robbery"
Mostly because he absolutely stole a game he wasn't likely winning with some bold offstage play.
@@irreleverent yeah but it was the way the commentators said it that it was funny
MOST ENTERTAINING MATCH EVER!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Sorry dude what's the meaning of " entertaining "? It's because I speak mainly the french.
Elpsycongroo in this context, fun to watch.
@@seanjessee0610 oh ok.. thanks man
Elpsycongroo I gotchu man.
i like how leo stayed confident and chill even tho the whole crowd was rooting for wishes
Why we all love leo
12:22 Bulbasaur Plush
*Bulbasaur
@Fathur 45 Oh whoops. Thanks.
@@bluebisk3888 No worries .nice catch though
This was so damn hype.
Mad props to Wishes for doin so well against the top player in Ultimate
Wishes just made a bunch of fans off of this video alone.
Bruh Wishes face is the most hilarious thing lmao 😂
When he was beating Leo he looked so hyped 😂😂 he looks like that regular degular dude who got lucky and is yelling at his head: "OMG I can't believe it, I got this, I got this, I got this... YOLO!!!!!?? WOOO!" 😂
Finally, some Zard action! Poor guy’s only good for a handful of moves these days.
I was rooting for Leo, but 3:29 from Wishes was sick
It seems like Wishes gave Leo more of a challenge than Samsora, which says a LOT
I might be wrong but I think there's a possibility that PT does better against joker than peach, especially with the new patch
@@Thecreeperboombox MkLeo might also have a lot more practice with peach and daisy because they're far more common.
@@ethanv7330 nah japan tournament melded him into a destroyer
@@Thecreeperboombox Joker is possibly a losing matchup for Peach, a lot of Peaches seem to think. He bodies her in neutral and she has the damage to give him Arsene, but contrary to what a lot of people think she can't kill well unless it's off of ledge trapping or fair if she has a read or it just hits (because it's the size of a planet). And now that's even more true since in 3.1, bthrow and fair got nerfed.
The moment when ivy grabs joker at 10% and can just kill him without any possible input to stop it....
Mkleo DI'd in twice which led to a vine whip right at the blast zone. It's very avoidable
is this the same "wishes" that got destroyed by an unknown 15 year old while throwing a fit and smashing his controller?
@BLU3_RNGER mobile.twitter.com/cloud805/status/1235706035223924737
2:49 is someone barking in the background?
Nah they're just yelling "LET'S GO WISHEEEES"
This set was so hype jeez
2人とも掴みからの火力の取り方やばいな
Leo is such a great fighter that he defines the meta even by mimicking him or by countering him.
"everyone loves this character" HAHAHAHA THATS A YEET
Man...Joker's like a mid-to-high-tier character normally, then temporarily becomes top-tier about twice a stock. It's crazy. lol
Yeah. 30 seconds. Less if you dont fear Arsene. Arsene dies to grab combos and pummels.
SamWeltzin That's b.c he's the Wild Card. ^^
I love Leo but i was really surprised by wishes performance in def gonna watch more of him he makes me wanna pick up trainer. Wishes is so crazy good a fantastic player
wow i'm impressed with wishes' decision making in the sets he won. unlike tweek, he had perfect focus, knew where to be and when to be there, managed to keep the advantage against leo, who is a very technical player who rarely makes mistakes. those were really good games for wishes.
And there it goes. The only player who made Leo sweat.
(Sarcastically) i love how leo damn near lost game 2 then shook his head in disappointment when he clutched it
wishes is on point
Really good set from these two
Smash commentators, please study this commentary. Accurate and revealing observations, in depth meta discussion, framing the match (I.e. Talking about the players in a way that's relevant to the match), and professionalism.. Very impressed. Clearly this isn't Al Michaels and John Madden, but this is a blueprint for the way you should commentate a smash match.
Yeah, about four people will read this post, but I know I'm right
Matt Goodwin "I know I'm right"
Pfffffffft
Dude this match was hype
MkLeo needs more mexican crowd. Like just a bunch of guys screamin' "viva mexico cabroneeees" or "ahuevoo!" stuff like that
@Thomas Paradis he's from mexico tho lol
No way, mexican smash community is awful af.
Yeoooo that first game ended so hype!!
The end of that first game was fuckin sick
How do i cancel ivysaurs up b to ledge like wishes does?
Make sure you have a junp left when your off the stage or just be in range for when you fast fall. Off stage you up B to tether to ledge and immediately press down and you'll lose the tether. Choice is to jump and tether again or just tether again if your in range.
The of the first game was HYPE!
MKLeo is literally the reason Zero retired. I've been waiting for him to come back.
That's not true but dream if you want
Proof?
@@axreviewsandanimations3082 MKLeo was at the top of the PGR around when Zero retired.
That's not proof, that's speculation, and he already said the payment wasn't worthy, so you have no proof
@@axreviewsandanimations3082 If you wanna think it's about the money, go ahead.
To me it just seems like "the greatest smash player" retired as he started losing a lot and people can't get over it
19:56 in the back sad faces and false clapping, and I wonder, where are those plutos que nos ivan ganar??? I donde estaaaan y donde estaan 🎶🎵🎶🎤
15:55 some kids getting yelled at
Anyone know the origin of the "yer" chant? I hear it all the time in sets with people from the east coast
Welcome to the black community. Where yer is basically calling out to your buddy or whatnot. Or when people get hype.
It's a new York thing. In smash there are different regions. Tristate is where wishes is from. Tristate is Pennsylvania, New York and New Jersey.
Wishes Pokemon trainer: I'm going to win this
Leo''s joker : I'm a joke to you
samantha brown Leo’s Joker: *Am I a joke to you?*
Didn't even notice that lol
Wishes, the one who did the best out of everybody against Leo’s joker.
leo's face always looks like it hides a lot of existential angst
Yall see that ivysaur plush at 12:21 lol
The final kill felt so heavy... getting knocked out because someone parried right in your recovery is horrible
Wishes’ Pokemon Trainer is pretty entertaining 👍 I’ll usually root for MKLeo though. His composure and brilliance is inspirational
How am I supposed to view this without my drink?!?!
It just works ... now where have I heard that before... KING CRIMSON NO KORUYOKU
same can be said about Joker's Stand
Stand Name: 「アルセーヌ」
Stand User: 「雨宮 蓮」
Strength: A
Speed: B
Range: C
Durability: C
Precision: B
Potential: B
3:26 this combo holy SHIT
Even though wishes lost he put in such a fucking great fight I loved it, best Pokemon trainer ever
17:09-17:11 Small but a little video glitch
Wishes encouraging the crowd in the beginning only to lose the bracket is like someone teabagging at the beginning of the match only to lose. Wishes played well but I believe he let the hype get to his head.
I'm going to be honest, this is an amazing set and wishes is an amazing player but his squirtle bothers me to no end. As a PT main he is making squirtle mistakes that should have been ironed out week 1 and it confusing seeing them after 7 months of being out. It's actually to the point that without these mistakes wishes could have won handily, that's how big some of the mistakes where. Also yet another game that does to show never trust commentators when PT is involved. Alot of outright falsehoods spoken in this match.
Somehow i get the feeling your pt is not even a third as good as wishes.
damian carr I was thinking the exact same thing. His ivysaur is insanity though.
I can’t tell if it’s joker that’s amazing, Leo thats amazing, or both that’s amazing
leo never looking like he enjoys smash xD
That Nair into Nair into Up b just makes me know that wishes won that game, even if Leo won the rest
If you analyze the games that Wishes won vs the ones he lost: on the first ones he changed the pokemon a lot. In the ones he lost he almost always leaned on Ivysaur, which made him predictable.
Why he doesn't use lucina or ike anymore?
Luis Balsas ike is falling off and Lucina is the character you start tryna play if you think you’re gonna lose the set
Been a speedrunner viewer forever. Why wasn't I aware of the smash scene? SMH
Wishes is great but has gotta stop using flare blitz
Also I'd like to see him abuse the neutral air on ivy more
As a PT main all I can say is sometimes you just gotta do it.
Flare blitz? Sure but if he misses every one of them...
The only rational explanation I can give you without joking is he used it to recover but was too high. Happens often.
I use it to recover all the time but never above the stage, that's just asking to get hit
Everyone: oh snap he gonna win
Me: this is all according to Leo’s plan
Yay joker is so much fun to watch!
The low % kills and the running away really gets me hyped
Tournaments in smash 4: "Everyone abuses the broken mess that Is Bayonetta and the competitors fuck around just to piss off people"
Tournaments in smash ultimate: "People try their best with the character they love and make a great show to watch".
11:55 hitboxes.................??
Anybody knows wishes twitch channel??
Try to look for it in his twitter
Wish7s
0:57
King Crimson
that was wild
Amazing battle.. i hope wishes will have his revenge..
Joker wins again. Not surprised. Very cool character!
SHOOK on that first match
Leo giving lessons to US as always
good games Pokemon Trainer... your team fought well. 😎.
Who will win
A Pokemon boi or a gun boi
*G U N*
3:29 THAT WAS NASTYYY
Am I the only one who thinks Ivysaur up air and down air are stupid? I mean they kill way too early
Down air is a spike, so early kills are kind of a given
Up air as a kill I am fine with because he has limited kill options without it honestly
the thing to complain about is their hitboxes, which are absurdly large, granted I don't find this that much of an issue either
@@KevSB07 Sorry I meant the hitboxes for the most part.
@@rpgchampion6057 wokay
leo is the reason i play joker now