this is one of the most comprehensive in order with the rich experiences for outdoor pants I've seen in utube. Good advice for considering Scandinavian apparel from Korea. Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much this is really helpful I am looking at trekking pants now and it is easy to become overwhelmed. I was looking at both Norrona, mountain equipment and the fjallraven stinas but of course waterproofing is a must too. I found this so helpful thank you
I got the Klättermusen Gere 2.0, I'll never look back. By far the most well made and comfortable trousers i've ever tried on. No stretchy panels but still very flexible and the fit is absolutely tailored, I could sleep in them. Fabric dries super quick (comes out of the washing machine almost dry) and pockets are very roomy and comfy. Ventilation zipper works perfectly since it faces to the front letting air in more easily. Very clever design overall!
Matti also like his Gere pants very much. I haven't tried them my self. For me they seem so heavy but maybe you're right that the other features compensate for that. I am very happy with my Fjallraven Keb Trousers. /Stina
I concur on this. I've had all the big nordics brands and their top pants, and the Gere is just at the top or very near for me. I would put the Norrøne Svalbard heavy and maybe the Lundhags Makke Pro as contenders, but that's it really.
A lot of good information here. Thank you! I am so impressed by the Klättermusen and the Norwegian Norrøna pants( produced gear since 1929) .Superior quality! Not so impressed, say at least, by the keb Fjellräven pants. Every front zipper on the fjellräven keb pants have failed after a short time of normal use. A lot of money down the drain. Very very disappointing and frustraiting. I red that many people have had that issue. The quality do not mach up with the price. What happen @Fjellräven?. Thank you again for this video. I really enjoy and prefer nordic branded gear . All the best 🌲
The tailor just replaced a zipper in a four months old Fjällräven. Costs me twenty euro. But I agree, the quality of Fjällräven trousers (and jackets) can be very disappointing. But they have the looks and that’s for many the most important thing (though almost nobody will admit it).
My favorit are the Stellar Softshell Pants 2.0 (stretch) and for a good combo pant I like Fjällräven Abisko light trekking zip-off pant so I can have shorts and pants in one. Stellar are an amazing swedish brand that more people should check out. Tack för fin video
Great video, thank you. I've watched your channel grow A LOT in the lady few years. May I ask if there was any particular videos or types of videos that causes this to happen for you? I'm happy for you that you guys are doing so well!!
I am a fan of the Klättermusen "Gere". It dries fast, keeps wind fairly well out, and even after i gained a Kilo or 2, they still fit, while my Fjällraven Abisko do not anymore. "sadface". Thanks for the nice presentation, i had to giggle a bit about the shoe not coming off, i know that one.
Dont know did you had chance to try Haglofs mountain ruged pants II and Norrona havy duty hibryd pants..i highy recomend them.i own them for 7-8 year and still they are bomb proof
Bra saker att tänka på när man väljer, endast traditionella friluftsbyxor där dock, hade varit intressant att att ha med hiking tights och jämföra med. har helt gått över till det själv när jag är ute och friluftsbyxorna får stanna på hundpromenader och annat i vardagen.
Har precis investerat i mitt första par vandringstights så måste testa de ett tag innan jag kan säga något om dem. En sak jag kan säga direkt som är en nackdel är att man inte ryms ett par långkalsonger under vilket behövs ganska ofta här uppe speciellt tidig sommar och höst. Men annars väldigt komfortabla. 🙂 /Stina
Very helpful and honest video! How do you suggest to layer under the pants for -5 to -15C cold weather? I find the ice breaker merino tights too thin as a single base layer.
When it's that cold I don't use hikinig pants. Then I use a shell pant instead and use one, two or 3 layers underneath depending on how cold it is. When it's super cold like -35 C or colder I even use 4 layers of long-johns under the shell pant. ;-) /Stina
I've never wore hiking trousers as quickly as Fjällräven KEB. The amount of layers that meet at the crotch and how much of that which is stretch is ridiculous. It just disintegrated down there. I have Fjällräven Vidda (Pro) now and they seem to be much better constructed. Still some stretch but it seems fine. Vidda's lace hooks are inverse so they don't hook by themselves, they also stay much better when you want them there. Edit: I mainly hike and ski. I have few alternative trousers such as Stina does.
I had exactly the same poor experience with Kebs. Also with several pairs of Abisko Lites and most recently with a pair of Vidda Pro. G-1000 is useless, but it's Fjallraven's signature material and they're stuck with it. I have a pair of Keb Touring trousers which are structurally softshell with cosmetic overlays of G-1000. They are fine after the sort of use that would ruin any of the other trousers I've mentioned. No more G-1000 for me.
Kollar alla era videos, men inte direkt i ordning men alla är lika bra. Tyckte du fick med alla saker som är viktiga för ett par vandringsbyxor. Men… ibland låter din engelska Stina som du snarare kommer från södra Sverige än Jokkmokktrakten :) kan ha helt fel där :) tack för bra videos i alla fall 👍🏼
When i went to my local outdoor store and basically tested every pants in my size and they told me that it has to be the first time they didn't have anything to offer, i wanted a pair that both fit me and i could sit down in a squatting position. Later i rolled the dice on a pair of Lundhags that i ordered online luckily they fit great but the downside is that the stretch is placed on the knees and butt both areas and gets far too easily wet when it's in contact with the ground
Jag har helt gett upp byxor med polycotton. Jag tycker inte materialet är bra, styvt, torkar långsamt när det väl blir blött och det sämsta är att jag ofta tycker att det går sönder i sömmarna mellan stretchmaterial och polycotton. Jag har tex lyckats göra slut på två par Makke pants på detta sätt. Klättermusen och Haglöfs är det som jag gillat bäst över tid. Särskilt Klättermusens wibdstretch tycker jag är kanon. Tex Vanadis, Mitrhril osv. Lätta men hållbara.
Matti har haft ett par Makke nu och de var väldigt dålig kvalitet. De har gått isönder efter väldigt kort användande så de skulle jag inte hålla som en referens för polycotton-byxor. Håller med om att det är rätt styvt material iallafall innan de är "ingångna" och att det torkar långsammare. Vi har ändå varit nöjda med Fjällräven Keb, klättermusen Gere. Testar nu Taiga Russel. /Stina
Ah inte bara jag då alltså. Lite tråkigt när man köper ett par byxor för 2000kr med så kort hållbarhet. Blir nog säkert något mer par med polycotton någon gång i framtiden men jag föredrar helt klart olika former av syntet/softshell numera. Tycker egentligen att det är lite märkligt att inte Fjällräven börjat göra den typen av byxor också.
@@emil1981111 How about fire? Is it possible that Fjällräven's polycotton is better than the usual artificial materials when sitting around the fire? I.e., not getting holes easily burned into them from sparks from the fire?
@@justinsenryu7308 maybe. But my experience is that it's more a question of the materials thickness. Thin clothes tend to get burn holes very easy. If making fires are a if part of your outdoor life then it's probably smart to dress accordingly.
I hope anyone can give me an information on this issue of mine. I am 154cm by height. Most of the good hiking brands I see are with shortest height of 165cm. How and where is a good brand that has a solution for petite asian woman that I am.
Hej Anna! Jag är 170 cm lång och väger 60 kg. Har storlek EU:38 Length: Regular och jag ryms en underställsbyxa under. Inte en jättetjock men normal. Tror dock det är väldigt individuellt vilken storlek man behöver eftersom det kan skilja rätt mycket på stuss- och lår-mått på oss kvinnor. /Stina
Låter som du är samma size som mig. Jag hade faktiskt på mig ett bambuunderställ när jag spelade in videon. Var svinkallt ute så hade mycket kläder på. 😉
Iordered Nordwand, 2 different colour ways. Size M was recommended for me, way too tight for comfort, quality not good, just cheaply made and expensive so I returned both.
An important criterion for hiking clothes is sound. Some fabrics make a lot more noise than others. Noisy clothes can ruin many nature experiences for yourself and for others. - Dress for silence!
this is one of the most comprehensive in order with the rich experiences for outdoor pants I've seen in utube. Good advice for considering Scandinavian apparel from Korea. Thanks a lot.
Thank you 🙏! Happy you liked it. /Stina
Thank you so much this is really helpful I am looking at trekking pants now and it is easy to become overwhelmed. I was looking at both Norrona, mountain equipment and the fjallraven stinas but of course waterproofing is a must too. I found this so helpful thank you
I'm happy to hear that it was helpful. Good luck in your search for new pants. /Stina
I got the Klättermusen Gere 2.0, I'll never look back. By far the most well made and comfortable trousers i've ever tried on. No stretchy panels but still very flexible and the fit is absolutely tailored, I could sleep in them. Fabric dries super quick (comes out of the washing machine almost dry) and pockets are very roomy and comfy. Ventilation zipper works perfectly since it faces to the front letting air in more easily. Very clever design overall!
Matti also like his Gere pants very much. I haven't tried them my self. For me they seem so heavy but maybe you're right that the other features compensate for that. I am very happy with my Fjallraven Keb Trousers. /Stina
I concur on this. I've had all the big nordics brands and their top pants, and the Gere is just at the top or very near for me. I would put the Norrøne Svalbard heavy and maybe the Lundhags Makke Pro as contenders, but that's it really.
Have Kebs from a few years ago. But currently love Haglofs Rugged Standard and Rugged Mountain pant from 2023. Better quality and features.
Great review. Thx. Just bend the boot hooked closed with some pliers.
Thank you and great tip! Sometimes you just don't think of the simplest things ;-) /Stina
A lot of good information here. Thank you! I am so impressed by the Klättermusen and the Norwegian Norrøna pants( produced gear since 1929) .Superior quality! Not so impressed, say at least, by the keb Fjellräven pants. Every front zipper on the fjellräven keb pants have failed after a short time of normal use. A lot of money down the drain. Very very disappointing and frustraiting. I red that many people have had that issue. The quality do not mach up with the price. What happen @Fjellräven?. Thank you again for this video. I really enjoy and prefer nordic branded gear . All the best 🌲
The tailor just replaced a zipper in a four months old Fjällräven. Costs me twenty euro. But I agree, the quality of Fjällräven trousers (and jackets) can be very disappointing. But they have the looks and that’s for many the most important thing (though almost nobody will admit it).
I just use an angle grinder and carefully grind off the lace hook. Then file to remove any sharp edges.
My favorit are the Stellar Softshell Pants 2.0 (stretch) and for a good combo pant I like Fjällräven Abisko light trekking zip-off pant so I can have shorts and pants in one. Stellar are an amazing swedish brand that more people should check out.
Tack för fin video
Tack Jonas! I'm curious about zip-off pants. Maybe I get one pair in the future. /Stina
Haglofs are my favourite
Awesome informative review.
Thank you! Happy to hear you liked it . /Stina
Great video, thank you. I've watched your channel grow A LOT in the lady few years. May I ask if there was any particular videos or types of videos that causes this to happen for you? I'm happy for you that you guys are doing so well!!
I am a fan of the Klättermusen "Gere". It dries fast, keeps wind fairly well out, and even after i gained a Kilo or 2, they still fit, while my Fjällraven Abisko do not anymore. "sadface". Thanks for the nice presentation, i had to giggle a bit about the shoe not coming off, i know that one.
Dont know did you had chance to try Haglofs mountain ruged pants II and Norrona havy duty hibryd pants..i highy recomend them.i own them for 7-8 year and still they are bomb proof
I have never tried them but thank you for sharing your tips./Stina
Great insight that mesh vents for bug protection really don't matter, as you often open the vents when you're active and then bugs aren't an issue.
*The hiking trousers shown in this video are:*
Klättermusen Gere pants
Fjällräven Keb Trousers: geni.us/ba74JP6
Haglöfs Mid Pant
Lundhags Authentic Pant: geni.us/BV1YPkD
Just wish Fjallraven would put some kind of waste adjusters - elastic or hook and loop in their Kebs. Who stays tge same for 5 years.
Bra saker att tänka på när man väljer, endast traditionella friluftsbyxor där dock, hade varit intressant att att ha med hiking tights och jämföra med. har helt gått över till det själv när jag är ute och friluftsbyxorna får stanna på hundpromenader och annat i vardagen.
Har precis investerat i mitt första par vandringstights så måste testa de ett tag innan jag kan säga något om dem. En sak jag kan säga direkt som är en nackdel är att man inte ryms ett par långkalsonger under vilket behövs ganska ofta här uppe speciellt tidig sommar och höst. Men annars väldigt komfortabla. 🙂 /Stina
I love my all natural commando pants. It dries very fast 😅😉
Never heard about them.
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA To go commando...no underwear/pants ...att gå kommando..näck 😉
@@VahidCullsberg 😂🤣👍
Thanks for nice guide!
What could you recommend as a compromise in RVRC price class, but a bit better?
Thanks!
Very helpful and honest video! How do you suggest to layer under the pants for -5 to -15C cold weather? I find the ice breaker merino tights too thin as a single base layer.
When it's that cold I don't use hikinig pants. Then I use a shell pant instead and use one, two or 3 layers underneath depending on how cold it is. When it's super cold like -35 C or colder I even use 4 layers of long-johns under the shell pant. ;-)
/Stina
The boot hooks on the new FR pants are the other way round. That way they don’t catch your shoelaces unintended.
I've never wore hiking trousers as quickly as Fjällräven KEB. The amount of layers that meet at the crotch and how much of that which is stretch is ridiculous. It just disintegrated down there.
I have Fjällräven Vidda (Pro) now and they seem to be much better constructed. Still some stretch but it seems fine. Vidda's lace hooks are inverse so they don't hook by themselves, they also stay much better when you want them there.
Edit: I mainly hike and ski. I have few alternative trousers such as Stina does.
I had exactly the same poor experience with Kebs. Also with several pairs of Abisko Lites and most recently with a pair of Vidda Pro. G-1000 is useless, but it's Fjallraven's signature material and they're stuck with it. I have a pair of Keb Touring trousers which are structurally softshell with cosmetic overlays of G-1000. They are fine after the sort of use that would ruin any of the other trousers I've mentioned. No more G-1000 for me.
Kollar alla era videos, men inte direkt i ordning men alla är lika bra. Tyckte du fick med alla saker som är viktiga för ett par vandringsbyxor. Men… ibland låter din engelska Stina som du snarare kommer från södra Sverige än Jokkmokktrakten :) kan ha helt fel där :) tack för bra videos i alla fall 👍🏼
😁 Du har helt rätt! Jag är från Skåne. /Stina
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA haha tyckte jag kände igen dialekten. Samma här :) hoppas ni får en fin höst å vinter i Jokkmokk :)
When i went to my local outdoor store and basically tested every pants in my size and they told me that it has to be the first time they didn't have anything to offer, i wanted a pair that both fit me and i could sit down in a squatting position. Later i rolled the dice on a pair of Lundhags that i ordered online luckily they fit great but the downside is that the stretch is placed on the knees and butt both areas and gets far too easily wet when it's in contact with the ground
Jag har helt gett upp byxor med polycotton. Jag tycker inte materialet är bra, styvt, torkar långsamt när det väl blir blött och det sämsta är att jag ofta tycker att det går sönder i sömmarna mellan stretchmaterial och polycotton. Jag har tex lyckats göra slut på två par Makke pants på detta sätt.
Klättermusen och Haglöfs är det som jag gillat bäst över tid. Särskilt Klättermusens wibdstretch tycker jag är kanon. Tex Vanadis, Mitrhril osv. Lätta men hållbara.
Matti har haft ett par Makke nu och de var väldigt dålig kvalitet. De har gått isönder efter väldigt kort användande så de skulle jag inte hålla som en referens för polycotton-byxor. Håller med om att det är rätt styvt material iallafall innan de är "ingångna" och att det torkar långsammare. Vi har ändå varit nöjda med Fjällräven Keb, klättermusen Gere. Testar nu Taiga Russel. /Stina
Ah inte bara jag då alltså. Lite tråkigt när man köper ett par byxor för 2000kr med så kort hållbarhet. Blir nog säkert något mer par med polycotton någon gång i framtiden men jag föredrar helt klart olika former av syntet/softshell numera. Tycker egentligen att det är lite märkligt att inte Fjällräven börjat göra den typen av byxor också.
@@emil1981111 How about fire? Is it possible that Fjällräven's polycotton is better than the usual artificial materials when sitting around the fire? I.e., not getting holes easily burned into them from sparks from the fire?
@@justinsenryu7308 maybe. But my experience is that it's more a question of the materials thickness. Thin clothes tend to get burn holes very easy.
If making fires are a if part of your outdoor life then it's probably smart to dress accordingly.
I hope anyone can give me an information on this issue of mine. I am 154cm by height. Most of the good hiking brands I see are with shortest height of 165cm. How and where is a good brand that has a solution for petite asian woman that I am.
I know Fjällräven have short, regular and long in their sizing of many of their pants. /Stina
Hi,what model fjalraven for hot environment
Consider Abisko Midsummer series
Hur är FJ keb i storleken? Ryms ett underställ under?
Hej Anna! Jag är 170 cm lång och väger 60 kg. Har storlek EU:38 Length: Regular och jag ryms en underställsbyxa under. Inte en jättetjock men normal. Tror dock det är väldigt individuellt vilken storlek man behöver eftersom det kan skilja rätt mycket på stuss- och lår-mått på oss kvinnor. /Stina
Perfekt, jag har samma mått som du så då borde strl38 bli bra för mig med, 👍. Brukar ligga mellan 36-38 så därför jag undrade
Låter som du är samma size som mig.
Jag hade faktiskt på mig ett bambuunderställ när jag spelade in videon. Var svinkallt ute så hade mycket kläder på. 😉
Iordered Nordwand, 2 different colour ways. Size M was recommended for me, way too tight for comfort, quality not good, just cheaply made and expensive so I returned both.
You can hide the hooks in there little pockets. 😊
I was out trying fjällräven pants today and found out, aparrently I fit curved better. I guess my ass is too big 😄
We're all differently built! Lucky there are different models for different bodies 😉. /Stina
An important criterion for hiking clothes is sound. Some fabrics make a lot more noise than others.
Noisy clothes can ruin many nature experiences for yourself and for others.
- Dress for silence!
I through you only should dress for success!!!
😉
But it's totally correct. It's super irritating to have clothes that's not silent!
/Matti
Every time Matti speaks you listen to stina.
🤣 what is the saying...Behind a successful man stands a strong woman 😉. /Stina