Realms Are Not What You Think In Nightingale
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Dive into the realms of Nightingale as we explore and analyze the game's advertised features versus actual gameplay. This video provides a balanced review, discussing the aspects of realm customization, developer statements, and player expectations based on firsthand experience. Whether you're considering Nightingale or seeking insights into its mechanics, join me for an informed look at the game's design and execution.
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I'm 100 hours in there is the big boss fights to come later on in the ascended realms and the vaults. But i think it's also important to remember this game is a week into early access and I'm positive we will eventually see more biome cards as *STORY SPOILERS* happen. Inflection Games has already been more than willing to listen to feedback and make changes if you feel strongly about it i would suggest a forum post as feed back. I'm not trying to be dismissive of your stance I just think it's something we will see on the roadmap, and while i have some things that urk me in regards to the game overall i've enjoyed my time with it.
I don't really feel misled at all. It's an early access game. Nothing is set in stone and the devs are openly soliciting advice and feedback. I think it's unfair to expect an early access game to be perfectly polished upon immediate release. It's not like BG3 which was in early access for 3 years, or Valheim which has been in EA for 4 years and counting. Meanwhile, the devs have promised that, in addition to comprehensive bug fixes and UI improvements, more biome cards are coming, which I think is exciting. Also, I think stacking minor cards would be kind of game-breaking under the current system. I think the current iteration has good bones. It's a good start. The setting is super cool. I think the basic concept of the cards is awesome and will only improve and become more refined. And I'm hopeful that, unlike most survival crafting games, this one will have an actual storyline. That'd be awesome, and worth dealing with the glitches in the short term for me. But yeah, nobody misled you about the fact that this is an incomplete game that is still rough around the edges. You signed up to fund the devs ability to keep improving and refine it. I think you can say you were misled if/when they they don't follow through on that improvement plan. I see no reason to expect that to happen. Also, I'm a little suspect of the opinion of someone who had time to put hundreds of hours into a video game that only just dropped a couple weeks ago. Maybe take a break and go touch some grass?
I have more than my money's worth for an early-access game. The concept they described is well represented in the game. If a game can keep my attention and entertain or challenge me for 1 hour for every dollar I spend I am happy. I spent $29 and have played almost 50 hours with more than twice that ahead of me. And now I hear they are adding more and I have just now unlocked my 4th realm.
At least it's not like Icarus, that offered a zero-g space station as a hub and alien creatures but then dropped both shortly before release. And on top of that the missions were boring with no depth or story and the progression was shallow. Nightingale is doing fine.
you realize this is just the first iteration of this system right? devs stated already on discord this ISN'T its finished state. also keep in mind they still have about 40% of the game to develop
Stop nit picking. This is an EARLY ACCESS game. It will be full of bugs, missing features or features yet to be implemented.
People nowadays seem so judgemental, entitled and eager to criticise.
THIS
Early Access - some functions are not here.
I play more than just two or three Minor Cards - depending on what I specifically wish to do.
And, those differences are significant. Malificent Card on one Realm for farming Bound. Treasury Eminent Card on a nother Realm for farming Essence.
I dunno that stacking Cards were said to make the game harder - Tiers are higher and more difficult. Stacking all three Cards makes your GAMEPLAY signifcantly different.
More resources is significant.
When I'm farming Bound Ichor, I want it to be Night all the time.
It's a different version of "the same thing".
Nighting Gale is my favorite game of the past decade. Way better than what I was expecting.
You act like they hyped this game too much. It was nowhere near the hype of games that failed hard within the last year, and even in early access I think this beats them. The pirate one, the Star one and the Zombie one, in particular. You picked two weird things to drone on and on about. "It's not unlimited combos of maps" (I didn't expect that from the promos) and You can't "stack cards" because you woefully misunderstood how stacked was used in that sentence. Overall its a lot more thorough than I thought it would be, in terms of crafting esp. And the combat is fun, with a good reason to do melee or ranged, quick or tanky. It's really easy to customize your gear to a play style. Its also very early access, so we can expect a fair amount of things to be added or changed.
btw IN FLEK SHUN
I don't feel misled. It's met my expectations thus far. We will see how the development process continues though.
the first point is absolutely nit picky. personally I looked into this game the week before release, and it gave me exactly what I was expecting. does it need more variety? absolutely. it needs more chunks per biome, and more biomes. a bit more space between chunks might be useful too. ive occasionally found them too close together to actually make sense. I know they are working on an arctic biome but I hope they go harder into this. id like strange alien biomes. I also think it odd that all the places of power are on the abeyance realm. I think it would make more sense to either have a realm per place of power, like a unique one, or have one place of power on your abeyance with different sections for the different unlocks. of course I havent gotten very far yet still working on it.
This feels oddly nitpicky for you
Eh, sometimes I get annoyed and like to vent about it. The realm system is extremely underwhelming. Also keep in mind the quotes in the video are just examples. There was a lot of info I felt was misleading about the realms system.
@Firespark81 that's fair, just wanted to check on ya. I feel like the crafting system is this games strongest leg. Sets it apart pretty well imo. But DEFINITELY a lot of room for improvement
It has strong bones but I think their plan for end game is lacking. Once you get to the watch its like ok now what.
@Firespark81 I do agree with that. I am enjoying building up my gear, and collecting recipes in the ascended realms. But if you called this the "proof of concept" stage, I'd honestly have to agree. I can't wait for winter to fall
i've watched your videos through a bunch of games and think you do a really good job but your take on this game makes me sad...as someone that mains survival crafting games, this game is amazing...like it's ea but people are reviewing this game like it's 1.0...this game is better than valheim(which is the only reason i know who you are) yet all i hear from reviews on thsi game is basically "why is this game so complicated?" and why are there so many different materials?"..let's be honest, if valheim and this dropped at the same time, valheim would have been dropped pretty quick and this would be considered the better of the two
I also find it sad when Valheim fans complain about lack of creature and dungen variety in the first week of Nightingale early access. I still love Valheim but it is extremely repetitive.
I love that this is not a "crafting lite" game. It actually adds to the creation of items and needing to take on harder areas to get materials
Well, its not really frustrating when you think its only on early access... i consider it an unofficial beta test... so voice out your complaints... they have tons of room to fix stuff before full release... i think the features they said were present up to what the game can offer in this stage.... 😊
At the end of the day, it's a $30 proof of concept alpha version of a game. Your concerns are understandable. There is still plenty of room for improvement and despite how few biome selections there currently are, if they do end up adding to the available biome selections and major card types, the amount of playable maps will increase significantly with every addition. I also feel like the game isn't quite what they were originally advertising, but I feel as though it certainly will become that. For now, just play until you tire of it and then come back to try the new stuff they add later!
So many people ignore the fact that it is STILL Early Access! Give it a year and things will be largely different due to feedback, bugs, and other features that the developers are still working on but have yet to iron out before unleashing their dreams to the public to be stomped on and disfigured... let's face it, that's what we do as gamers.
I am hoping the realms will become more varied as the game ages and it gets closer to "final".
No, it's pretty much as I expected. I did think we'd be able to set our respite estate on any realm, but so far it's only the Abeyance realm. I think people are being too harsh on this game. It has a lot of potential.
I have almost 300 hours ingame....I get what yours saying but I also get that its early access....and honestly I think your being a bit nit picky...but your intittled your your thought
I'm enjoying it quite a bit. However, I intentionally avoided the hype train. I watched maybe 2 big trailers. Stayed off the discord, etc. Going into it completely neutral, I think it's a good game, with the potential to be great.
I actually very much disagree with your take on the minor cards. They may not change the features or landscape of the realms, but if you use them in accordance with a certain task or goal, they speed up the gameplay by a ton and can make a pretty significant difference. I do wish you could play a couple at once but, not a big deal to me
True. They came out very early and said the changes they were making with minor cards so to me its moot to bring up the before-change stuff. I also feel like they would have to restrict some cards being played together if they change stats in the opposite direction like one is less hunger and one is more but then one increases ore and one trees if that makes sense. I dont think cancelling out things would work
@@darth_cheezus I agree. I understand why they limit it to one minor card at a time, but it would be cool if they could balance things to be able to play a few at once, just adding more customization. The base idea is neat so hopefully after some updates it’ll be in a pretty fun spot
@@LuvU2xHopefully they do. I put on their feedback site about being able to change size of realms small medium and large and that maybe with bigger sizes we can play more than 1 biome. Saw alot of other feedback that was good for different things. Truly think their base is solid just need to follow their vision and use community feedback as well. I have alot of hope for the game. I just wish more people would try it
Not mislead but misunderstood. The game does what they said it would, just not in the way we imagined. But hopefully they build on it while it's in early access so it eventually becomes more like what we expected. Being able to use multiple minor cards at once would be nice, for example.
I made assumptions that didn't come into fruition but im still having a blast!
"Not mislead but misunderstood"
THANK YOU!
Perfect words for what I've been thinking about this video's content too.
Good points in many ways, but a bit too soon, and could have been presented differently.
*Shrugs*
It's still early access, and YES, giving Inflection some feedback is a great idea - I get that he's disappointed, but DUDE. Give it some time! ^_^
That said, its also ok to dislike the game, to feel disappointed - you never know, he might change his tune as they continue to develop and expand the current mostly stable absolutely beautiful game. ^_^
He's nitpicking a bit...
a bit 😆
You do understand this as early access we don't get the full game yet you do get this concept right I'm guessing you don't young man
here we have a modern gamer, the bar so low an ant couldn't limbo.
Early access means free pass, early access means they can lie to us and we're fine with it. Early access doesn't cost $30 and shouldn't be judged by any standards
Everything is up to change. I dont feel like i was mislead they can still change and add more. I went to an acended astro swamp and it was almost like a blend of the forest and swamp. New bioms can always be added as well as major cards. Nothing but space and time are infinite they just used hyperbole. I like the realms but what i acctually like is the depth of the crafting. It does need alil improvement but it is early access. No man sky is almost as vast as space but it is never truly infinite but they have described it that way. Im always critical of games and devs because of past events. I wouldnt give my final opinions until it actually is in full release. Im having fun but like i said its still subject to change. Now is it going to be for the better or for the worst we dont know just got to wait
I would say if this were a triple A title where you were payng £50 - £60 then your video would have some traction.. I paid £20 for it and have over 60 hours in it so far, the game is more than value for money, there is clearly going to be a Snow biome released and probably a crosbreed biome.. I feel you are being very picky for a game of such a low cost.
Feel the same way and also
I WANT A SNOW MANSION DAMNIT !!!!!
They haven't even finished the main city "Nightingale" which is the actual end game, lmao. I wonder if the clickbait worked or it backfired.
@@tonyw6451What click bait?
And are you talking about the Watch not being finished?? That was never supposed to be 100% done as we dont have access to all biomes and levels yet.
In regards to Nightingale City that is finished as it was already made when they wanted this to be an MMO. We just dont have the ability to get to it yet, I believe they were making changes with the gameplay direction change.
Minor card were removed from Portals and added to Fey tower - in pre-early access version you portal had 3 card slot Biome and Main card mandatory and optional slot for minor card ... So you had slightly more customized map from start. Current 7 realms (major card ) have 3 pre build / randomized variants - depending on with Biome card you use - so you have 3x7 = 21 different maps ( following 3 Biomes themes ) - they can be slightly modified by minor cards - though its not that big deal - same map witch minor tweaked aspect ... harvesting more , glass canon , always a day ... all 21 Realms are created from pre build section with point of interest drawn from pull of pre build locations for that specific Biome & Major card ( not that big pull - you bound to find copy of same locations on one map ) ...
I think what @firespark81 is missing is that this is VERY VERY early access. The devs have made no secret that this is an Alpha.
I know it is. I get that. But even so we should still express our opinions about it. That's the whole point of early access. To get feedback.
@@Firespark81 I quite agree but there is a way to do it, here you are just on the verge of the angry guy who wants to make noise about something to point out while brother, calm down, it's a 9 day EA , start by taking showers and we talk :) You can say, things, but with cool measures, like my comment, but you trigger me x)
They have easy to access channels for feedback. I like your videos but I agree with many here that this just comes over as whining for views.
I am a bit annoyed/angry so for sure that's gonna come through a bit and I wanted to use my platform as a way to vent my frustrations as I did feel a bit misled by what they claimed their game is, by their main selling point for the game. I also wanted to make the video as a bit of a warning to those who may be on the fence so they know exactly what they are getting. Just in case.
It's fine if you do not agree or do not like the video, some do, some don't. And if you are on the don't like it side, think it's a bit whiny, then I guess it's a good thing I very rarely make videos like this. 😁
@@Firespark81 Your content is always quality. You do have valid points, I just felt you were a little overly nitpickly. No harm, no foul.
Think he meant as you get a stack of different cards to select from not actually stack up. The minor cards make a huge difference in my game. I just found the Trickster card which gives you early access to some of the best resources. TBF all games that are procedurally generated have monuments in place or it would just be a sandbox...ever heard of rust?
You do know this is an early access game that has been out just a few months, right. Similar games have been out for years and dont have as much gameplay or polish.
Game has little content and little polish lmao.
It LOOKS fantastic and the story has ridiculous potential
@@Firespark81 then you obviously didn't play many early acces/alpha games; let alone survival ones. Some of them are straight out rip offs, lies and money grabs. For its current price tag, it's well made and pretty polished, AND this is the first public iteration.
Hmm.. idk, maybe it's because.. THE GAME IS IN EARLY ACCESS?🤯
this is such a weird video to knock an early access game that is just showing it's foundation.... the card system isnt even fully devleoped. This is like making a video on Ark during beta and saying "there is only one map and there isnt much to do other than gather materials and fight dinosaurs."
What are you talking about dude. Your twisting the dev's words to fit your narrative. If you are not happy with the game just delete it and don't play it anymore. But dont put $hit on a game that does not deserve it.
I keep telling myself, it's early access. I am concerned that there won't be new content added. I'd also like to see less grind. I agree the hype was over the top compared to what you get. Still, it's a fun game.
I don’t feel ‘deceived’ but I was certainly hoping for something a little more varied and their marketing certainly implied such. I know you’re being as fair as you can to the game but let’s be honest here, it really is just 3 maps: Forest, Swamp, and Desert. The only difference between any of the major realm cards is difficulty, palette swaps and different resources and creatures. Once you’ve seen one forest though you’ve seen them all and the fact that that repetition applies to the POIs and bosses means any drive to play comes almost exclusively from the desire to grind out more resources and blueprints.
I haven’t gotten to The Watch yet but as a solo player it sounds like there’s no purpose for me to continue once I reach it so I’ll probably just put it down pretty soon here and come back later to see how it improves.
Your first point is defiantly overly nit picky. Stacking is also playing 3 cards as well as 20 cards. He maybe shouldn't have said stack but at the same time there was never a video or photo that showed more than three cards played.
I do agree that the maps could use more variety in locations and creatures but I also feel that way about Valheim.
And until any early access game goes full release I don't consider them to have an endgame. I generally stop when I hit the end of content, either start a new save or wait until more content drops.
@DaleMoorenotchip Yes, but he said "stacking to increase the difficulty" and that's just not how it works. As stated in the video playing a minor card does not really affect your resources in that way. With like 1 or 2 exceptions and even then that's like a chance to find rarer loot in chests. And from what I have seen that rarer loot is just the same stuff you'd find in that realm anyway as all realms have different rarities of loot. Ya just find more of it.
I think overall my biggest issue is that to me at least they sold the realm system as this new innovative thing something that would change the face of survival games. And in the end, it's just not that at all. It's just a bunch of maps that have had their biomes split up and you can't even change them that much. Know what I mean?
@Mystic879 "I've noticed any time a new game comes out, he heavily knit picks at times it seems just for the hell of it to be honest." Who are you talking about here? I hardly ever make videos like this. For the past, I don't even know how many years now I have mainly focused on just making guides.
Also, I love how any time someone has an opinion about a game that someone doesn't like they just accuse them of nitpicking it. No, I'm not nitpicking it. They touted the realms system as the revolutionary new thing, it's the game's main selling point and it's dull and not really how they sold it in my opinion.
Now you are free to your opinion if you think differently but you have no right to belittle mine just because you don't like it and want to white knight for them.
"If people also would STOP the constant milking the youtube view/money system tit on their channel every time something new comes out" This is literally all of youtube, how many people make a living, and what youtube has cultivated. If you don't like it or agree with it maybe you should stay off the platform.
@@Firespark81 I agreed with a substantial part of your video, just think you got hung up on stacking. When the bigger problem is the minor cards not adding a significant variety to the Realms. There does need to be a third slot in the Realm portal that lets us have adjustments like flat with more Plants, rocky with more ore, rocky with more caves, crossed biome creatures, no creatures, more creatures, etc.
Yea, if they made it so we could apply more than one minor card and minor cards had more of an effect on the actual generation they would have drastically more combinations. Systems like this are exponential. It doesn't take much to get what feels like infinite.
@@Firespark81 I would say it is revolutionary to be honest. Is there another survival crafting game doing things with any type of realm system? "Not that is perfect by any means." So for something no one else is doing and it's in it's infancy for the most part, It should in theory only get better. Better / more assets, randomness in generation, etc. My gripe is that the game holds your hand way to much. The game literally tells you where everything is. EVERYTHING. There is no reason to try new realms and actually explore and do content as just 1 or 2 maps and you have enough to buy all the cards/recipes in each tier, which they tell you where to go get...
Agree with most of the review. I don't regret purchasing this game as there is plenty of entertainment value for the price, before it becomes redundant/boring. The game has some fun mechanics and potential with additional Major cards and creature types...maybe I'll pick it back up in a year or so to try out new content.
You should lead with the fact that this is still Early Access. These are initial systems that absoultely need refinement and fleshing out - thats the whole point of letting players in now so they can get feedback.
There are enough amateur reviews blasting early access games without content creators following suit.
i played the game on extreme so far for my whole playthrough. 46.6 hours in. 120+ power.
the game was pretty rough at first. getting 1 hit by everything till you make some armor. but it did get a bit easier. playing co op is very helpful.
honestly not to sure what materials i am suppose to be looking for to upgrade my power level more. or what armor i should be crafting from what I've learned.
so we have just been doing more quest instead.
1st time in months leaving a comment... And its just to say dislike. Learn what early access is..
Couldn't agree more.
It's early access. No game is perfect in early access. No i don't feel misled, plus there is plenty more to come and this game has huge potential.
I think there is more to come. There are cold/ ice resistance buffs in some of the mats so there is at least one more type of area to be released. I'll wait till full release to see
I chose to buy the game knowing what it was but I did not invite any friends to play because the grind is real and I did not think they had the time. It is very early access compared to some other recent early access releases...but those went so fast im through the content already. I won't get through this with my playstyle for quite some time. I hope they do come up with more variety. The minor cards like the trickster are hilarious.
the game needs work and the fact that they folded and said they are going to focus on the single player side of things means we will be waiting quite a while until they go around fixing other parts of the game ... oh and the card system is fine they just need to add more diverse card biomes and not just recycle the ones that they already have
Hyper critical for an early access game, if you want to provide your opinion for this to grow, cool. If you’re going to tear apart a beautiful piece of art that’s incomplete, very not cool. And then get attitude with your viewers, you need to mature
I believe what you make your cards with is the seed but also when you reset a realm it ends up differently so there's another seed aspect there too which seems random. There are ascended versions of the cards which were not mentioned until the end of the video and are just glazed over but they are different. Difficulty doesnt change a map or realm other than its difficulty, so Im not sure why this was mentioned. So... taking this into consideration I do not believe there are 21 or 40 some of the same maps. Even when not counting minor cards, since each map is procedurally generated the content, POI, possible creatures are all being drawn from a long list of potentials which will only get added to since this game is early access.
Nothing is more fun than resetting a realm to explore a completely new version of that level/difficulty. If you want to be nitpicky though, no infinite possibility is actually infinite in games- not the universes in NMS, nor any other procedurally generated maps in any other games because there is a set amount of digits in a seed (required for map generation of this nature). It's always been an illusion because no one expects a player to spend their life seeing thousands of possible maps.
I've thoroughly enjoyed the game up to this point. I felt I got exactly what they described. No, the worlds aren't infinite, but they are very tweak-able within a decent bandwidth. Moody, dark, a bit twisted, too. Great art. Receptive devs. I look forward to seeing how they develop the story. Come on in and get some real English lessons from Puck.
After writing my other comment I realized what is almost certainly the reason minor cards can't be played at portals. They need realms to be essentially all the same because they want it to be an online co-op experience. They need your public realm characteristics to align with a lot of others. I feel like they need to find a middle ground. Making all the realms boring and predictable so you can have easier matchmaking isn't a good answer.
Firespark, I'm a big fan of yours, but please do give this game some time! Play something else, and come back later maybe. To me its -in its VERY early state - a good game already, with great potential.
And yes, the cards are as you saye they are. (The minor cards were changed from the quoted promise to how they work now because of player feedback during beta.) But, as you already said in the comments, this template makes building new realms in the future absolutely possible - in fact I believe multiple are hinted at already in the game. I wouldn't be surprised to see a... fall in temperature... in the future, for one ;-)
The only real mistake they made, was to release this into early access too early.
It's a shame, doing this has opened them to extremely critical review.
Honestly, are you stupid. There is literally no such thing as "early access to early". Early access means early access. I hate it when people buy a game they know is EA, then complain when it isnt the full game or is missing stuff or has bugs etc etc. YOU VOLUNTARILY CHOSE TO TEST THER GAME. Thats how EA works. Its is super stupid when anyone complains about an EA game.
They never said the maps would be infinite at EA launch. They can add cards to make it infinite or close. For firespark to complain about this and use it for views is horrible. Makes me want to unsub. Are there a ton of combinations atm, no, but i believe there will be. And the game is amazing in all the other things it has. Its a survival game, ALL survival games are grindy and supposed to be. I LOVE THE GRIND. ITS A SURVIVAL GAME AND SHOULD BE GRINDY.
@@Reeper_ Yep. They have a solid working basis from which to add more Biomes. Tundra, mountain, plains, rainforest, etc Even things like urban wastelands or a Mustafar lava world with Stygian fortresses. Additional creatures and factions can be similarly added as needed.
I think too there's been the usual race to "end game" for far too many people. Over 90 hours now and closing on 100 soon. Just taking my time and enjoying the scenery. This is a much more relaxing game than my usual so this is for when I need to just relax and decompress.
@@Reeper_ I think you misunderstood me, that's ok, I should have been clearer.
@@vexingcat9813 I dont think i did. You feel they shouldnt have released the game yet. Your wrong. Its in a great early access state. Also, there really could literally never be a game released to soon into early access since early access is the definition of voluntarily getting an unfinished game.
I agree only on the grindy part at the end game which they should reduce drastically since the game is still in development in my own opinion; allowing the people to be able to test the end game without stopping due to the massive grind.
The game is still in early access, so you can't really judge it in its current state (unless you're trying to give feedback in a weird way). As far as I know, the devs mentioned that they will be adding new cards through the life time of the game.
As a survival game veteran, this game is great for new comers and veterans alike. They gathered the better features of other survival games, added to the great aesthetics and graphics supplied by UE5, and they added their own twist which is the theme and the story of the game; which feels like a breath of fresh air in a mostly stagnant genre (not to mention the great sound track that plays a big role in the immersion and the atmosphere, and also the voice acting which I would assume they would be adding a lot more later).
To be fair, the CEO's statement shows exactly how it was in the beta I tested last August. I could play a Biome card, a Major card and up to 3 minor cards and open a unique realm. This allowed us to have nearly unlimited combination of unique realms. Unfortunately, something happened between that beta and launch and now we have a Biome + major and then once that realm is created, you can modify it with the weak ass system of the realm transmuter thingy and then only 1 minor card can be played at a time. This was a huge mistake in my opinion. I wish they had kept that original concept. I imagine they had to do this simpler concept to avoid having a huge number of unique realms which they have to host on their servers.
Played about 50 hours, just made it to end game. There are not infinite realms, but this is an early release and not a complete game yet. When theyvadd more content, and icons lol we will see.
They got their work cut out for them that's for sure. What did you think of end game?
Map icons? You have to clear the Fae Towers.
End game ISN'T end game though - not permanently - it's just the CURRENT early access version of it - for now.
They've pretty much said as much - AND, like Valheim etc, there is more room to expand both the realms, the combinations, the storyline - there' been hints of such things too.
I'm really looking forward to them adding to it - and so far, the current selection of realms etc is far more stable than most early access survival/ builder games. The quality is there, and so is the potential - aren't you looking forward to more too?
@@Firespark81
My major issues from hear about the game is the grind and the cafting, my adhd brain is overwhelmed from just hearing about it and maybe they'll fix this but until they do it's not a game I'll ever play.
The grind isn’t really all that horrible. You run around, collect a decent pile of resources to craft and move up a tier. Takes almost no time at all, really.
I don't think anyone was fooled by use of the word "infinite" and thought there was an infinite number of cards, the only way you could have infinite combos. We can say devs should never use hyperbolic language, but I kind of hate the idea that people can't use flowery or exaggerated language because people might be pedantic enough to "ummm actually" them.
On the combo/stacking... they did used to allow you to stack minor cards, probably when they said that "stacking" statement. Idk if they stated why they changed it or if it was a temporary issue, but they definitely should comment on it if they haven't and I would like to see them readd the ability to stack minor cards and even alter difficulty in built realms.
" thought there was an infinite number of cards, the only way you could have infinite combos" This is not true with the right system in place you can have near infinite number of combinations. It's just a simple math problem.
Stacking may had been an early concept that they moved on from. After all we used to be able to place all three card types in the portal. Now minors are placed in the transmuter. And the map is the biome/terrain. And majors are the theme of the biome. Luke the fae courts. I guess it's a matter of expectations.
I sorta agree....early on when you could put multiple card types in and formulate differing realms you had the ability to create many many realms that were diffrerent. Unfortunately I think that the alpha community didnt understand and complained, and their servers couldnt handle the system and they quietly changed it right before launch into early access in order to rush it out whether it be due to monetary needs or a myriad of other possible reasons.
Even too you were not guaranteed to find a quest giver in a realm early on due to the way it was...now its just random variations of the same realms depending on what major cards you play and you get the same npcs each time to include the traders. Early alpha you had the chance to get random traders and what they sold wasnt always the same. I think they made the game too linear to make it easier on themselves.
I was expecting maps being more procedurally generated, not just same POI's differently placed and rest of the map and monsters the same, but I'm still not hugely disappointed, it is really early access game.
I remember how limited Conan Exiles was both map wise and general content wise when it launched it's early access period, and look at it now, a completely different game, in good and in bad.
So I'm willing to give a benefit of doubt for devs of Nightingale, they may or may not pull something great out of this game, we'll see. Either way I'm having fun now playing it the first time and I'm not expecting the fun to stop quite yet, though I feel the game getting grindier and grindier the more I play it.
Still I would recommend it to anyone who likes survival open world exploration type games, it's really cheap and worth the money they are asking even in this early stage.
I think there's a good foundation here, but I agree with your criticisms. It needs more content. But also they have all the systems in place to make realms and cards more interesting. They just haven't implemented them in a way that's interesting.
Playing minor cards only after a realm is entered is a strange choice and I don't know why they did that. The benefits and negatives are things that could have been random modifiers for underspecified portals and made things more interesting. But instead every realm with the same major and biome card is exactly the same mechanically. Huge missed opportunity where all the mechanics are already there, just not used in an interesting way.
There's also a bunch of confusion with some resources varying based on the major card and others varying based on realm power. Honestly, the difficulty options shouldn't even exist and should be handled with modifier cards.
It's also strange that realm color pallette is tied to major card. It's not a huge deal, but it just makes me scratch my head.
I really like the foundations of the game. There's a lot of potential. I just hope they do some more interesting things with it than what they've done so far.
I too think there is much potential here. I just hope they can pull it off and make it all work.
I agree with most of your criticisms as well, just one minor nitpick: color palette is absolutely not tied to major card, my partner and I have played a couple different minor cards that have changed the colors in the realm.
@@captainhedgehog1481 Thanks for the correction. I haven't played with the minor cards very much because they seem pretty insignificant.
Color palette seems based on realm level. I think don't quote me on that.
There are a few minor cards that are very strong. Settler let's you dupe stuff and thinned veil is op can be used to easily out maneuver the AI and travel much faster.
This video is a video you make like 4 or five into to the run of a video game, you did not even wait a month to say those deadly words about a game,,"END GAME". you act like this is like a dark souls game and now you haft to wait for dark soul 2 to come out.lolololol Dude give them a Half second, its the begening of the game not the end.......
I never felt like they promised anything specific. All trailers try and portray a game in the best possible light and that should be expected. Every thing they say we know is going to be a bit over hyped, also they always show the end game stuff that you might not even use 90% of the time you play a game. This is just normal marketing. So no, I'm not surprised. I am happy with what I've seen so far. I'm just one tier from end game stuff, which I don't really care about anyway. I'll be getting about 100 hours of fun out of a game for the price of how much I spend on lattes every week. Not a bad deal I think.
What is annoying about negative reviews like this (I mean you could have said the same thing with a more positive twist to it), and I've watched plenty of your videos where you do. We will soon see someone repeating nearly word for word what you just said in a steam thread or a post on the Nightingale discord. They will make it seem as if it is all their idea, but they will just be repeating the content of this video all over again. This does not contribute to a more pleasant experience discussing the game with other people that are also playing it.
I normally do not make or like making videos like this. However I really feel a little mislead by what they said their realm system was supposed to be and felt it was very much lacking and basic. It was supposed to be the highlight of the game. What set it apart from others. Turns out it doesn't really do that and its just kinda meh
@@Firespark81 Unfortunately you left something out in your video. You can Reset a portal. When you put identical cards in you get the exact same biome, but if you click the Reset option in the lower left, it is a completely different one. Different terrain and POI locations. Pretty sure this is the definition of a procedurally generated map with infinite variety like they said.
Game is soooooo grindy. To the point it’s not that fun. It’s not even like you get real gear upgrades it’s just the same gear with bigger numbers. I’m sure they had really lofty ideas and then simplified and cut things to get a release.
It’s pretty unfortunate honestly. The ideas they have may be cool but are far too grandiose to have a fun gameplay loop
You can get significant gear upgrades with stat changes, and how gear will affect combat from weapons, ranged and magic and what do you mean by just bigger numbers ?? What are you expecting when you upgrade gear ??
And this hasnt been simplified or any thing for release
this game was so mysterious and innovative when i first saw the early trailers and they keep marketing it up like its super new and full of stuff and exploration to see because of the way they are pushing the options in different combinations. But when t he game came out. i saw what i needed and it was a letdown.
TBH i played only a few survivor games and my favorite was valheim. Even if some areas will sparsely populated or variety of items/structure/mobs were similar. they didnt not hard sell their stuff and not delivered.
I felt Nightingale devs hard sell the game and did not delivered. The biome changes or map changes didnt even stand out from each other apart from the land/weather having some minor conditions/changes. The puzzles were the same the mobs may be different but they have not variety in their attack patterns etc.
It's nice to see some people agree with me and get what I was trying to say.
I did enjoy your Conan Exiles videos, but did you ran out of ideas? this video is BS. The game is Early Access man. Please, do remember how "fun" Conan Exiles was the first time it came out in EA. I would delete this shame of a video if I were you.
I like watching your vids, But the game is in EA lol.... So how can you even say ATM that they are lying. Now if the game was in its finished state Still i may not agree.. Yeah there will only be so many things you can do unless they use AI to create this game at some point then everything would be different but not different as there are so many resources in the game to pull from. I think your judgements here are a little unfair.. And no, I am not a NightIngale fan boy. In fact i have my own gripes atm but then again ITS EA!
First, I did not ever once say they lied or are lying. I said what they said in promo material does not line up with how the game works in its current state. I love how people look at the thumbnail and just see what they want lol.
With that said after watching the video and listening to what I had to say you do indeed think I was being harsh on unfair that's fine you are very much entitled to your opinion as I am mine and there is nothing wrong with disagreeing. Thanks for stopping by. Cheers!
@@Firespark81 YOUR ACTUAL THUMBNAIL SAYS "THEY LIED" Putting the ? after it is simply a trick to allow you to say you never said they lied. The thumbnail design is such clickbait. There promo material lines up because they never stated the game would have it at EA launch.
@@Reeper_You said it before i could :)... exactly, I did see the thumbnail as He pointed out and so did everyone else that clicked on it as they wanted to know before they spent money on the game "Newcomers that is " and if it was worth it. I myself am not that far into the game so i even wanted to know what they supposedly "Iied?" about. The thumbnail is a marketing click bate tactic to get views. I follow another Player that lists all the current issues and covers the topic of the cards etc and they are not dissing it but pointing out the fact it is not where it should be and that even the Devs agree it is not there yet... Also, one does not have to say the words they lied. In fact all one has to do is Imply they Lied. Anyone who understands the English language can comprehend this without the person specifically saying the words.
@@Firespark81 I'm going to leave you with this. I used to enjoy your channel but with how arrogant your acting and your unwillingness to even admit that just maybe, maybe myself and ALOT of the comments are right. Also, please dont us like we are idiots. We aren't looking at the thumbnail and seeing what "WE" want, we are looking at it and seeing exactly what you want us to see. I loved your comment that I have "NO IDEA" how RUclips works. I would love an explanation on why you think that. I also just used your links to there promo videos and I have no idea where your getting they misrepresented ANYTHING. My offer still stands on an adult conversation on discord. I'm 54 years , thankfully I raised my 3 kids to be more respectful of people.
Literally not my fault if people can't read and misinterpret things. The ? is there, easy to see as is the title. Is it all done in a way to drive clicks and views? Sure, I won't deny that as it's literally part of the job and what everyone on here is trying to do. I am ALWAYS trying to hone those skills. Sometimes I get it right sometimes I don't. Is what it is.
I also did not diss them. I simply read a quote and then explained how the game works in its current state and does not line up with the quote. There are way more I could have read too. I just chose the two I chose as examples.
If you took me reading a quote and then explaining how the game mechanics didn't line up with the quote as them lying well then maybe they were a bit misleading 🤔
But no, I did not say they lied and I won't. That's up for you to decide. 😁
yeah, i was looking forward to this game too and i got to take part in the testing, but what made me decide not to buy it was the stress test and later learning that its a live service game. I dont see the point of it being live service if im only going to play single player anyway. also i wasnt impressed by the end result and the servers seemed very slow to me. i get that its early access but theres something about it that just didnt seem right. maybe ill buy it in the future IF they update it. ill defo keep my eye on it
I almost didn't get it after the stress test...but I did and I will say it was greatly improved over the stress test version.
Idk with the stress test, but they are working on making an offline mode for the game since it was in high demand. So that is the main objected as of now for them.
Aren't there bosses on the ascended hunt? i've heard that but I haven't checked. Honestly I think you fell into the problem of watching the game prelaunch too much. As someone who saw the trailer originally never looked up any information and just went into it's fun. I think it'll be even more fun when they fix some of these bugs and give us an answer on some things.
I have 100 hours in the game and I find it gets boring fast because it is all more or less the same just other tiers. I was hoping that the biomes were different and had different mobs. Like swamp could be jungle swamp or northern swamp aso.
Maleficiate Card sounds pretty difficult for the constant damage.
Whenever I dial a new forest biome it always has orange grass and blue sky. Is that normal?
If you are using the same major card yup
I agree to a point. This a wonderful built game... BUT (and this is where folks will start getting defensive) The overall gameplay is ... well just not well explained. I have learned more about this game through RUclips than I did from the developer. Matter of fact. I even got so frustrated that I deleted my character so I could correct some of my fatal errors. Everyone keeps saying it is EARLY ACCESS... ok, great, so when will the finished game be available?? Because that is the game I desire. It annoys me to think that what I am doing today will be nixed next week. I play other survival games (not stating names but they wipe the world every 30 days and you start from scratch so why bother building a huge base)
It’s early access keep that in mind instead of making a stupid video to fit your narrative,why don’t you give it time.The game haven’t even been out for a month yet 🤫
The whole purpose of early access is to give feedback on the game. I don't feel like the core aspect of the game in its current state is what they said it was. But you know, white knight harder so the game will be even more trash than it already is. Instead of criticising it so they fix it and deliver what they promised.
@@Firespark81 The game is not trash. Have a little empathy for the developers who obviously worked hard to deliver a work-in-progress. Or you can be a jerk-for-clicks.
let's be fare there are 3 maps with tier variants. There's so much that could have been done with Fae realms and they included none of it. No Faries, pixies, dryads or nymphs not even a werewolf. No fantastical lands with unique landscapes. It's all pretty plain and quite grindy for what it is. I'm not sure how they add anything without a rework of the game. There's very little actual exploring and a lot of the mechanics seem a bit broken like not being able to shoot an enemy while they're in one of there attack moves. I think shooting something dashing toward you should hit it when you're point blank. Hope this at least helps the Algorithm.
To be fair their system is modular. They could change maps at any given point of time and it would not affect the base game. They could also just add new ones. I honestly look for them to sell card packs as microtransaction as a way of making money to afford server costs. I have no idea if this is what they will do but it seems logical and its what I would do if I were them.
@@Firespark81 They've already said they are pushing for the single player offline first. Which I'm okay with as so much time is wasted on loading screens. The system is modular but the lore will need to be reworked. It might not be to difficult as not many people invest in the lore.
Fairly sure they'll add more variety with time. It's clear the game was rushed to release.
@@Firespark81 Sell Card Packs??? Skins or gear items ofc
I had been watching this game since its beginning, and Just like New World it changed from what was originally promised, Early in the development you indeed had to use 3 cards to open the realms, I didnt figure they could do what they wanted, All realms completely different from one another (Procedurally Generated) All and all i ok with what they came out with, just my opinion the minor cards do need to have a bigger impact on the realm your playing.
Nothing like I expected. Not terrible but not great.
Valheim has spoiled us all.
I like my own comments.
I think what you may have missed about the realm system has nothing to do with how varied a realm you can create. What caught my attention was that you can share it with your friends and play together with them. Now it turns out, this in reality needs a lot of work. You could do a whole other video on the multiplayer aspect of the game. Its strong and weak points and ideas on how it could be improved. One downside I saw was that if one player in a group solos a tower of power, when others go there, all mobs and chests do not respawn (as far as I can tell). Only the main boss and minions will appear and the final reward I think is all you get. This is a terrible way to design the bosses in my opinion.
They already have a fix for that very thing. You reset the realm or someone else just opens up another similar realm. Takes all of a minute or 2. Then you have a whole new map to do with friends. Don't get me wrong. There a few things I'd love for them to change, (like the games holds your hand WAY to much) but I've had 0 issues playing with friends.
When they started putting ads out last year, I really thought they had a picture of four cards next to each other to customize realms. Extremely disappointed to see that it is only the two cards to create the biomes.
The only thing infinite about this game is how many buttons are being created.
Not sure making a video full of lies is the best approach to point out someone else is lieing. I think they call that Hypocrisy. :) That would make you a hypocrite.
Just a heads up, your opinion isn't fact, it's just your opinion. Trying to prove someone is lieing by selling your opinion as fact, doesn't make them a lier, it just makes you stupid.
I challenge you to show any two generated realms the same. And I don't mean 'reopening' a portal to the same realm lol You won't be able to, because there is always variation to the point where it would be something like 1 in a million you get two realms the same (maybe even worse odds, i don't know).
I didn't lie about anything and everything I stated about the game is fact with the exception of my feelings on the end game being brutally grindy. Some people may find it fun I did not. Which is kind of blatant that that comment was opinion.
The realms are the same. Playing the same combo of cards gets ya the same realm m8 if you can't see that or understand that you probably shouldn't even be commenting. Sure they are laid out differently but they have the same resources, plants, animals and structures with only small variations in the structures. That is fact.
Oh yea and I never once say the words they lied. I gave quotes and explained how at this time that's not how it works. That thumbnail has a big question mark on it for a reason.
@@Firespark81 So just make a video talking about your opinion on Nightingale, that you feel the realms are not different enough for you. Don't attack the devs over it. Don't make up nonsense to try and prove devs mislead you with untrue statements.
I've played Nightingale plenty myself, over 100 hours, and reached endgame, harvested most materials, crafted all the things, I even toyed with the many exploits that are only now entering youtube. So I'm well aware of Nightingale mechanics and realms.
"...he talks about stacking up realm cards talks about them in a way as that you can pile them on top of each other to create higher tiered areas to go to and that's just not how the game works." < Untrue. This is your opinion, your interpretation. The game works literally as the dev stated, there is not a drop of misleading info in there.
"... being able to really customise realms and you can, and this necessarily isn't a lie, its just misleading because you kind of need to go to all of the different combinations blah blah blah" - Again, your opinions, your interpretation. The fact is you CAN customise realms to your liking, primarily with minor cards. There's nothing misleading about this. You may not use more than one minor card, but some of us use many different minor cards, that's your choice, you're missing out. I could give detailed explanation of the extreme usefulness of over a dozen minor cards.
"The combination of all three (major card, biome card, minor card) together creates endless variations." - This from the promo video is factually true. There is a finite number of card combinations, but thats not what they said. They said endless variations of realms, from those finite number of card combinations. As I challenged you earlier, show me two realms exactly the same, I very much doubt you will be able to (maybe you'll get lucky on procedural generation to get two the same.. i've never seen it). You may be disappointed in the variations, but the video/statements are not missleading, they are true.
"There are seven maps in the game, maps are your major card that sets the map" - There are no 'maps' in Nightingale, you made that up. Why I have no idea, as it already has a name. There are 14 major cards in the game, The Watch does not have one, 7 regular major cards (Abayance through to Hunt), 6 Ascended cards (Antiqurian through Hunt), and the Vault card. Alone they do not create a realm, in combination with 1 of 3 biome cards they create a realm. So 42 possible card combinations in creating a realm, of which have limitless variation.
"has grasshoppers in it it's always going to have grasshoppers in it no matter how many times you open a new version" - Sure, and ALL realms will have fibre, trees, ore, a fae portal, and many other things. That doesn't make the realm the same, it's just one thing that doesn't vary between realms, out of 1000's of things that DO vary between realms. Again, you may not like it, but in no way were the devs/promo material misleading.
This is getting tedious, you say dozens more things that are purly your skewed interpretation/opinion of things. The bottom line is, the devs/promo material was not misleading (or lieing). YOUR video is misleading, full of opinions and made up terms and ideas by you, and other things that don't exist in the game. The only one misleading anyone is you.
I haven’t hated a game more than I hate Nightingale. It’s broken in so many ways. Never going to give that game another chance. It’s a mess. People in chat keep saying early access. Steam shouldn’t be selling sh!t that is so broken.
I dont like the multiplayer option. I invited my friends into my realm 1x and ever since we have all be living in the same realm and they dont let everyone get a chest its 1 chest for 1 person and everytime i log in and find something new my friends already got to it while im offline!!
Fair enough - I play with friends too, and whoever loots the chest just adds its contents to the communal base. We suggest upgrades for each other and take turns - IMO it makes it even more fun to co-op.
Setting limits with your companions is fun too.
Hope you can work it out and have more fun with it! ^_^
What's your system specs? Lots of popping of assets.
It's because I have view range turned down to very low. My specs are more than enough to play the game. I just turn view distance down in games cause it's a good way to save wear and tear on your GPU
"I just turn view distance down in games cause it's a good way to save wear and tear on your GPU" Idiot confirmed LOL.
@@Firespark81 So it's not game performance based?
@Anon_User yes you clearly are as you don't understand how heat affects your computer and make fun of others for want to protect their investment. You probably make fun of people who get regular oil changes for their car as well.
@corruptparagon what do you mean performance based? I just noticed my GPU running very hot as with most EA games this one is poorly optimized, which is fine. I found that lowering the view distance drastically reduced how hard the game was working my GPU so I turned it down and lowering it doesn't bug me at all. Would much rather a cooler running rig. 😁
Its is super stupid when anyone complains about an EA game.
They never said the maps would be infinite at EA launch. They can add cards to make it infinite or close. For firespark to complain about this and use it for views is horrible. Makes me want to unsub. Are there a ton of combinations atm, no, but i believe there will be. And the game is amazing in all the other things it has. Its a survival game, ALL survival games are grindy and supposed to be. I LOVE THE GRIND. ITS A SURVIVAL GAME AND SHOULD BE GRINDY. You signed up for EA, you signed up to help better the game. Stop whining.
There is a right and wrong way to do grind. When its not fun you have missed the mark. As for commenting or as you put it complaining about and EA game. How the heck are they supposed to know what players are frustrated about if people don't talk about it and express their feelings. The its EA so just shut up and take it line of thought is dumb and does nothing to help the game.
@@Firespark81 I have a small gaming channel. I use it to have fun with lets plays and tips. I dont use it as a way to "give" feedback. Publicly bashing the game for views isnt feedback, its you making a buck off there game. If you want to truly give them feedback, then give THEM feedback. Dont use your channel to vent what you feel is wrong. Saying the grind missed the mark and isnt fun is your opinion. Iam having a blast with the game and the grind, as are alot of people.
The its EA isnt dumb because thats what it is. Im 54 years old and have been gaming probably longer then you have been alive. I know what im buying when i buy an EA game. Im paying to test it and give them feedback through the right channels. Nothing more. Your not helping the game with how you do things. You and I have had words in the past over how you do things. People these days feel so entitled to get more then they paid for and/or should be getting. Once upon a time I paid 60.00 for a game, got maybe 20 to 30 hrs of gameplay, no patches, no extra content and i was happy. I have 75 hrs in Nightingale so far for 27.00. Your just wrong in how you approach things sometimes.
Who are you to tell me what I can and can't do with my channel? Sounds to me like you just mad and have 0 idea how RUclips works. You do realize their are entire channels dedicated to giving thoughts, opinions, and reviews right? Lmao don't worry one day you will grow up and understand.
@@Firespark81 Wow. Just wow. I never told you how to run your channel. I gave you advice on the dangers of misleading people. Your right, there are tons of channels that do reviews, that doesn't mean they are doing them right. I may have a small channel but that doesn't give you the right to outright attack me.
I tried giving you sound advice. How exactly does RUclips work? Since i apparently don't know. I'm not the one who needs to grow up. I have enjoyed your content in the past. Sad that you made my decision to unsub this easy. My advice stands. Outright bashing an EA game and assuming "everyone" will think the grind is unfun is NOT the way to "review" a game. I would be more then happy to have this conversation in discord or even a live stream. Like civilized people.
You literally did and you attacked me! Called me stupid even! I didn't mislead anyone. I gave quotes from promo material and explained how the game does not line up. Which in it's current state it does not. And my thoughts on end game are clearly an opinion. And no I don't wanna continue a conversation with you because you clearly think you are in the right here. And I'd rather not keep wasting my time. I'm have actually good conversation with people in the comments already who actually know how to have a civilized discussion.
Early Access! Thumbs down.
Totally THIS! Unsubscribed, how FireSpark81 can NOT get that it is Early Access!
Hey its early access as most games these days it will improve and I like it as is already anyway 😁👍
Well this vid whas a waste of time. This game is early access. The look of it, you have no clue what early access is. Stupid vid.
So lame thumb down
I was so very excited for this game, but early access has been horribly disappointing. Everything you've said here is true, and I appreciate you putting this out there. It gives the devs time to realize they really do need to make some major adjustments to the game before their 1.0 launch.
I have 10 hours into it and have no interest in continuing. Its unbelievably tedious and repetitive. I agree on feeling mislead, it seemed like there would be lots of exploration but nope, just the same 3 biomes with the same few puzzles and enemies... I honestly dont expect much to change or get better really unless they do a complete overhaul on almost everything besides graphics and art design.
I agree about the realms. I think we were looking forward to this game for a few years and the idea behind nightingale would have infinite realm possibilities. Thats just not true and it would of been fine if that wasnt their main selling point for the game. I own and i am still playing it. I think MYSTIC879 is missing his point. Just dont hype up your realms and it was hyped up a lot and for a few years. Then to find out that its not how they painted it. It is disappointing thats a fact, he showed their own statements and yet you act like firesparks81 is wrong for calling out the shade or their missleading game promotions. Maybe it will help someone who knows they wont like a game that is like he showed.
It wouldn't be infinite as they stated maps are not voxel based. They are hand crafted. Creating that many maps would take forever and to expect it is silly. But they can keep creating more. Maybe they can do like World's adrift and let the community make them.
Wife and I had fun playing it together, however it released rather lacking for us. I mean limiting House building was super frustrating and the upgrade crafting table system definitely needs more tweaks. End game hub idea is neat but I don't want to grind there forever. Ascended version of all the levels I just did with cards, I think not. We Parked things at Hub and waiting to see how they fix the game experience more and add new content. Yes, I understand Early Access but we're just waiting to see what they do next and don't plan on touching it again until they add major content.
im stiill waiting for arctic,volcanic,jungle biomes. i started this game on hard mode so yeah its easy......
Exactly. You called for what it is. They shouldn't have promised these features if they weren't going to be in the game. "Oh well, it's in early access!!".. That's what's being judged in the video, the early access version because that's the only one we've got so far. Will these features be implemented in the future? I sure hope so..
What features are you talking about that were promised and not enacted on ??
@@darth_cheezusnothing. They’re just twisting the dev’s words so they can pretend they have a reason to be angry.
@@darth_cheezus the video explains it very well. But the one that bummed me out the most was the illusion they gave that the cards would give us an infinite number os possibilities. They don't.
@@martyrsaint who's they? Me and the author of the video? What's in it for "us"?
@@eusouramiroI am sorry but if you believed it would truly give INFINITE possibilities then your expectations were way to high for this game or any game offering that. No games can give a truly infinite possibility. That tech even with procedural generation would be an insane overhead cost.
Again I do not think because of that the Dev's lied. I believe like all games everyone has there own expectations but im sorry you need to be able to give yourself a reality check with things like saying limitless. I do agree different words could have been used BUT not once in any of the pre release talks or footage did I personally believe I would be getting out infinite possibilities.
What you have access to is alot and some things do change in ascended realms. I also believe there is a good variation of enemies and it does change through biomes. You do also have to think while we get new Bioms and difficulties it will add to the procedural generation of things when they should also be adding new POI's and hand crafted areas as well.
I was hype for this game but the tutorial was broken for me off the jump, I've never tried so hard to enjoy a game and the game just not let me progress lmao. I refunded it so fast, I'd still love to give it a second try, but im going to have to wait for some updates.
Bro, I was happy to see your guide on this game. I always watch your guides on different games that we play.
But this game is such a disappointment. My thoughts are same as yours I bought this game as soon as game released and asked 2 of my other friends to buy it too telling them this is going to be survival game on steroids. Its was not is a state of release. They even released it earlier, guess because of SOTF was releasing at same day.
Lack of enemy varieties and only 3 biom, same old resources through out the game. Game has potential but it's going to take a lot to turn this around but right now its a waste of money. Just play Valheim or get SOTF if someone wants a polished game.
Bioms...
I totally agree with you. The map design in Nightingale is not even close to what Conan Exiles did with their first map, and those boss fights in Nightingale are also weak compares to other games. I don't know. I played lots survival games, Nightingale is a fairly good one but surely not the best one out there.
Why are you comparing a game that is Procedural generated for the map to a map that is static and has more hand-crafted things ?? There will always be a huge difference between the two and are on opposite ends
Procedural is always from what I have seen lower until more pieces and biomes would be added to change things. Hopefully, they get to the point that it can have more than 1 biome to explore.
I Read somewhere it was the Biomes that are the Map/Seed and the major Card is just the level you want to play at. But yeah you pretty much said what I've figured out. to me I just want to say "Where is the Universe of Fae?". the Creatures, Magic, the Realms?? I'm not surprised, But, Dang it, We Deserve better.
Its ea so there is still hope and time for them to build something amazing now that they can get feedback from a larger audience.
bought the game played for 30 mins, refunded.
looks like a reskin of Ark ngl
Its EA ,pretty sure they will ber adding more biomes ,what do you expect no game has infinite maps .Yes the game is a grind ,Its a survival game ffs thats what it means ,these games are for grinding come on really ,Conan ,Ark etc they are all just as grindy if not worse .This is already much better than the new ARK wich is a real dumpster fire.
I was honestly shocked when to me like your comment they actually expected infinite maps. Very confused on that. And honestly I love the grind. Yes it can get a bit tiring but I like that it isnt crafting lite. I would like to see the followers be like Thralls in that maybe we can find professional one we can put on stations to help give boosts :)