Another long one, please use the timestamps to see the part which is most suitable to what you enjoy farming! Thanks for everyone who helped me with the gathering of the DATA and enjoy this "build your own" method of choosing what you want to farm based on your preference while still knowing the profitability of said farming strategy!
Hi, thanks for the hard work ! Concerning boss farming, are the stats still correct ? I mean, concerning maven for instance, there is this new jewel/gems. Are those integrated in the formula yet? Are those data based on uber version or standard version ?
For everyone having issues with making a copy of the document because of the heavy trafic: take the link to the actual doc, and replace everything after "cuQ4Cs" with /copy, that will automatically create a copy of the spreadsheet
This content that you are doing, is just the most insane amount of work so that others can benefit for free. I don't need much help in PoE, but if this content was out a few years ago for me, it would have been such a time saving gift. You are an f'n saint man.
Hey there, I wanted to let you know that I started watching your videos when you first started the Casual Exile series, and I still have some copies of the spreadsheet from back then. Super helpful then, and super helpful now, thank you for taking the time to create it, update it, update it again, update it again, update it again, and so forth. You're definitely one of the streamers I pay attention to, thanks again!
Every time I play a Leaguge I dive deeper into your work. I love this kind of content in WoW (as the community developed websites and tools are mostly outstanding) and I love it here.
How do I download this tool? I don't have the "file/edit/view" tab options under Path of Matth: The Casual Exile Guide like the clipped image shows in the doc, so I can't make a copy.
i've been calculating and thinking which one is more profitable. buying bulk shaper guardian maps -> doing the maps -> doing shaper and invitation -> sell all loots in bulk VS buying shaper fragments -> doing shaper -> sell uber frags in bulk.
an absolute sigma, giga, and all kinds of chad. thanks for your work matth. you should be awarded by ggg in some way, ur definitely the most outstanding of all content creators
Damn, I stopped playing PoE 1 year ago and stumbled on your video by chance. I can tell that this is legit awesome! Good job and thank you for the community!
technical question - when I open the google sheets I don't see the menu bar in order to save a copy of the document. I checked it on other documents/sheets and there I see it. was the option disabled?
Found a fix: take the link to the actual doc, and replace everything after "cuQ4Cs" with /copy, that will automatically create a copy of the spreadsheet
I did lab running last league... it was trash currency wise. But I did enjoy helping people run the lab/ enchanting stuff. Thanks for the guide! Opens up some options on what to do this league.
2 things with essence, the map can usually on its own refund the craft, but you need to be able to kill the damn things cause occasionally they are just raid bosses and conting the fact they can dupe on shrieking you will occasionally be unable to kill the damn things, but they are insane free schmoney
Hey Matthew, I just wanted to give you props for the google docs you put together. I read through it all and appreciate it all but most of all I love the sense of humor you put into it here and there. Really enjoyed it and thanks for all the work you put in to make things good for all of us. :D
How do you think people should tackle farming as a duo? Me and my brother are going to be trying to duo-one carry and one aurabot this upcoming league, but we’re just a little confused on how to really get started after completing the acts. Any tips?
Why you use profit in legion? There is at least a sexstant that adds one more legion on the map, also map can have legion in implicit that will add one more legion, and as far as i know you can get 1 more additional legion by chance that can be boosted a little bit with atlas nodes. So you calculating value of 1 legion minus scarab price, but there could be 2-4 legion on the map and guilded scarab will add generals to every legion, so i think it would be better if you calculate the value of one legion not the profit
Honestly props to this guy, I’m not a huge fan of him and don’t even play Poe anymore but dudes a legend for what he does, so is everyone else who helps him out good on them all
@@IamShanee not wrong but hey I use to never watch the guy when I played, just didn’t like his vids and such, compliment from someone who disliked you has to speak for something, hope this next league goes well for you all, and since it’s a small league big plans come soon lol
I dunno if you do this alone of what but your kind of insane Matth. Thanks so much for the effort. I'm thinking of full on betrayal. Push scarabs and other odds and ends as well a heist and abyss. Never been one to push max profit, just wanna have fun and make the most out of what I have fun doing.
thanks for doing all of this dude..very interesting stuff. You do a great job breaking everything down and explaining it. I will definitely be using this for Sentinel.
Hey Matthieu (or anyone else who might know), has this been updated with new drop rates? Particularly for Omni and Ashes. The EoW and SE profits seem absolutely massive, but the math is obscured in a separate sheet so I can't check for myself how the numbers are being calculated. Thanks!
17:00 , i reckon we talked about this on stream but we had a seconday maths where we could use prime/secondary lens on already alternate big weighteds gems to hit the "expensive" one , even if it can go to "superior" again sadly....That being said, awesome content. Not the one we deserve, but the one we get 🥰 (Like per example creeping frost, its easier to hit the Divergent if u start from Anomalous)
When calculating profit, I don't think you should include the freebie you get in every map, because you're getting it whether you pay for more or not. E.g. the 3c you pay adds 3 essences, not 4 essences. On a per map total profit of the map, you can include the full 4 essences, yes, but not when considering the efficacy of paying for the added content (same for strongboxes or anything that has minimum guarantees)
that doesnt make sense, the added content scales the 'freebie' content therefore changes its value (think of sextants for exemple, they apply to all boxes, free or not)
@@frater_niram True. But what I meant was when talking about the profit of an added cost, then only consider the actual added value of the cost. If something scales then only consider scaled value minus base value. Same idea as "scaling" essences by adding 3. It doesn't make the freebie any better, so it isn't helping to offset the profitability of adding 3
im unable to make a copy of the file, i cant seem to get google sheets to show the make a copy and trying to ctrl shift f to show toolbar is not working
Hey brother thanks for the insane amount of work you do for the community. Out of curiosity do you know why when I open your Google Document it never has the option to create a copy? As in there is never file or anything else at the top. I am thinking it may be a traffic thing... any thoughts?
Technically it would cost 10 chaos to gain 16.84 chaos, netting 6.84 in profit. You don't count the initial 4.21 you were already going to get by doing the normal run.
@@AlexWhalen99 College busy period will coincide with this League, so I can't be dedicating that much time to it. I still want to play PoE, so 1-2h on standard every now and then is perfect. And if I can use this tool to make it as effective as I can like I did in Archnemesis, that'll be even better.
I don't understand what type of items is he selling to come up with the numbers. Strongboxes for example, what comes out of them that makes them so valuable? I don't get it
How is it possible that mean profit of Twisted invitation is around 420 c? :O 6 crescent splinters are eual to ~90-100c, let's say we drop 3 shaper fragments which are around 10-12c each, that sets us at around 130c value, minus the cost of the invitation which is at around 40c. Whare are the other drops that we can get there? I was running shaper guardian maps + twisted invitations last league, did hundreds of maps, my profit/value of twisted invitation was nowhere near the numbers that are being shown there, am I missing something?
Because the data used in this spreadsheet is taken from standard and prices there are bizarre, so basically every profit You see on the spreadsheet is going to be waaaaay different on league.
@@silverforever226 @Path of Matth ah damn, I thought this spreadhseet is/was set to the Archnemesis league, that is what confused me. Thanks for the explanation!
@@pathofmatth Thanks for a quick response, and based on your experience, what do you find more profitable, shaper guardian runs + invitations or doing shaper runs alone or maybe combining all of them together? Shaper guardians + formed + shaper run with the obtained fragments? Shaper seems to be a very stable profit
I will start this league as a bossing focused character for the first time (I did always start as mapper in the past) and would like to know how i go on in atlas passives. Do i get other passives than bossing related nodes first to get some base currency going for gear or just straight to boss nodes and rush as many maps as possible for map boss related drops and fragments?
Hey dude just tried to make a copy, but I don't even have the normal options / my screen looks very different, is this due to the crashing you were talking about?
Could you make a vid on why bossing is so profitable early in the league and what are the things people who boss early farm as well as how to capitalize on that early inflation efficiently :) Could be cool You did go over bossing a bit, but the meta early on I imagine is starkly different given gear limitations and people paying premium for boss drop uniques.
just like wink says, but ill expand for you earlier builds need unique items => bossfights early league later builds need crafted items => mapping late league
generals cry? explosive arrow? skeleton mages? siege ballista? cold dot? no but honestly the build looks very good. i did a run yesterday and its super straight forward and smooth. except .. for softcore .. you might want to make a few changes to gorathas version. you can get way more damage if you re willing to die a few times here and there
Actually seeing you set the values to standard economy as a placeholder I'd like to ask you if there's any chance you could make a permanent copy of document set for standard? Maybe we're like 10% of player base but it would be huge for us there :D
like 4 wing unusual gems net me a profit of like 20-50c ... over the test of like 50 blueprints this weekend ... im actualy unsure how it is supposed to be 1.5k chaos profit ever ? without getting one of the perfect gems ... same side i cant see in current market to make any meaningfull profit running those ... 40-150c per hour is well ? not good
The way it works is via the Calc of the weightings of each gem in the pool. It should be very much accurate as the weightings are public and the formula is sound, I've verified it many times. One thing to note however is that gems in blueprints are found at random levels and random rarity which makes it much more complicated so we use price of gems at 20-20 I believe, which means some niche gems will probably throw off some of the data but there's no way to fix that
Another long one, please use the timestamps to see the part which is most suitable to what you enjoy farming!
Thanks for everyone who helped me with the gathering of the DATA and enjoy this "build your own" method of choosing what you want to farm based on your preference while still knowing the profitability of said farming strategy!
Just an awesome amount of support coming from this channel. THanks for the great work!
Hi, thanks for the hard work !
Concerning boss farming, are the stats still correct ? I mean, concerning maven for instance, there is this new jewel/gems. Are those integrated in the formula yet?
Are those data based on uber version or standard version ?
For everyone having issues with making a copy of the document because of the heavy trafic: take the link to the actual doc, and replace everything after "cuQ4Cs" with /copy, that will automatically create a copy of the spreadsheet
Thank you for this
Wow thank you! Legend.
thanks!
Effin' Legend. Thank you kind stranger, was losing my head thinking I am too dumb for google docs.
This is the most useful thing I've learned all year.
This content that you are doing, is just the most insane amount of work so that others can benefit for free. I don't need much help in PoE, but if this content was out a few years ago for me, it would have been such a time saving gift. You are an f'n saint man.
Hey there, I wanted to let you know that I started watching your videos when you first started the Casual Exile series, and I still have some copies of the spreadsheet from back then. Super helpful then, and super helpful now, thank you for taking the time to create it, update it, update it again, update it again, update it again, and so forth. You're definitely one of the streamers I pay attention to, thanks again!
easily my favourite poe creator, appreciate your work for the community so much!
Stoked that you've gone and completed this beast! Thank you for your and your compatriots work. You add so much priceless value to the community.
Every time I play a Leaguge I dive deeper into your work. I love this kind of content in WoW (as the community developed websites and tools are mostly outstanding) and I love it here.
How do I download this tool? I don't have the "file/edit/view" tab options under Path of Matth: The Casual Exile Guide like the clipped image shows in the doc, so I can't make a copy.
Don't think I'm playing this league but really appreciate what you do for the community :D
i've been calculating and thinking which one is more profitable. buying bulk shaper guardian maps -> doing the maps -> doing shaper and invitation -> sell all loots in bulk VS buying shaper fragments -> doing shaper -> sell uber frags in bulk.
This is outstanding project. Huge respect and big thanks 🤩
Le travail le plus exceptionnel depuis que je joue à ce jeu ! Merci infiniment.
an absolute sigma, giga, and all kinds of chad. thanks for your work matth. you should be awarded by ggg in some way, ur definitely the most outstanding of all content creators
This is an amazing resource, which I didn't get to use yet last league.
I think I've studied less for my computer science master degree than for POE by now :D
Damn, I stopped playing PoE 1 year ago and stumbled on your video by chance. I can tell that this is legit awesome! Good job and thank you for the community!
technical question - when I open the google sheets I don't see the menu bar in order to save a copy of the document. I checked it on other documents/sheets and there I see it. was the option disabled?
I am having same issue as well.
I believe this happens because of high traffic on the document, it disables a bunch of features while traffic is high.
Found a fix: take the link to the actual doc, and replace everything after "cuQ4Cs" with /copy, that will automatically create a copy of the spreadsheet
@@JusRachel yep, that works. Thank you!
@@JusRachel MVP! pin this
Again Matth, you are a Legend doing this work every league for the rest of the mortals like us, Really appreciate it!
I did lab running last league... it was trash currency wise. But I did enjoy helping people run the lab/ enchanting stuff. Thanks for the guide! Opens up some options on what to do this league.
Your content is like a drug and i'm suppose to be working... Thanks for the hard work you have put in!
2 things with essence, the map can usually on its own refund the craft, but you need to be able to kill the damn things cause occasionally they are just raid bosses and conting the fact they can dupe on shrieking you will occasionally be unable to kill the damn things, but they are insane free schmoney
This is NOT a video. This is a GOLD MINE 🤩
ill be trying endless heist at 62lvl first time, pretty excited, thanks!
Hey Matthew, I just wanted to give you props for the google docs you put together. I read through it all and appreciate it all but most of all I love the sense of humor you put into it here and there. Really enjoyed it and thanks for all the work you put in to make things good for all of us. :D
honestly amazing content ! truly truly amazing content, in my opinion the best gaming you tube channel. very well spoken and thoughtful!
Great job on this doc.
This is so huge for a beginner like me I am amazed by the POE community thanks a lot
One of the best content creator for poe for sure
It says on Searing Exarch and Eater of Worlds that "drop rate changed", that's it, no profit
how do i open the link in the spreadsheet for some reason when i click them it just clicks the cell?
How do you think people should tackle farming as a duo? Me and my brother are going to be trying to duo-one carry and one aurabot this upcoming league, but we’re just a little confused on how to really get started after completing the acts. Any tips?
@Salty Squid Makes sense, thanks
Why you use profit in legion? There is at least a sexstant that adds one more legion on the map, also map can have legion in implicit that will add one more legion, and as far as i know you can get 1 more additional legion by chance that can be boosted a little bit with atlas nodes. So you calculating value of 1 legion minus scarab price, but there could be 2-4 legion on the map and guilded scarab will add generals to every legion, so i think it would be better if you calculate the value of one legion not the profit
Hi.
Nice Job.
Can anyone tell me if rouge exiles are worth taking on the atlas tree? They are not mentioned in the document
filterblade filler as a option for you to only see gold or silver oil items.
some links to trade (in harvest) are not working, could you please update?
Hope you're feeling better man.
Bro, what a thumbnail!
Honestly props to this guy, I’m not a huge fan of him and don’t even play Poe anymore but dudes a legend for what he does, so is everyone else who helps him out good on them all
lol kind of a backhanded compliment
@@IamShanee I'll take it
@@IamShanee not wrong but hey I use to never watch the guy when I played, just didn’t like his vids and such, compliment from someone who disliked you has to speak for something, hope this next league goes well for you all, and since it’s a small league big plans come soon lol
I dunno if you do this alone of what but your kind of insane Matth. Thanks so much for the effort.
I'm thinking of full on betrayal. Push scarabs and other odds and ends as well a heist and abyss. Never been one to push max profit, just wanna have fun and make the most out of what I have fun doing.
anyone made an up-to-date guide on how to effectively use the common harvest crafts such as reforges and the likes in accordance with 3.17 and 3.18?
the absolute goat does it again
thanks for doing all of this dude..very interesting stuff. You do a great job breaking everything down and explaining it. I will definitely be using this for Sentinel.
is ritual bad?
Amazing amount of effort to give us a very useable resource. I consider myself a high-Mid Tier player and I reckon I can benefit from this still.
Is there a way to select which league i want to see the profits?
Hey math, love u man, thank you for every bit of effort u put onto ur work. I would love to see you do some kind of a little video for ssf players.
That is awesome man, thank you for all this hard work. This might be the single best resource i have seen in my 9 years i've been playing POE.
sick thumbnail sir
no conflict of interest here AT ALL KEK
Hey Matthieu (or anyone else who might know), has this been updated with new drop rates? Particularly for Omni and Ashes. The EoW and SE profits seem absolutely massive, but the math is obscured in a separate sheet so I can't check for myself how the numbers are being calculated. Thanks!
This is truly great
You should make a website too
17:00 , i reckon we talked about this on stream but we had a seconday maths where we could use prime/secondary lens on already alternate big weighteds gems to hit the "expensive" one , even if it can go to "superior" again sadly....That being said, awesome content. Not the one we deserve, but the one we get 🥰 (Like per example creeping frost, its easier to hit the Divergent if u start from Anomalous)
"its easier to hit the Divergent if u start from Anomalous"
Why so?
@@zomgree it depends on the gems, it's all about the weightings
When calculating profit, I don't think you should include the freebie you get in every map, because you're getting it whether you pay for more or not. E.g. the 3c you pay adds 3 essences, not 4 essences.
On a per map total profit of the map, you can include the full 4 essences, yes, but not when considering the efficacy of paying for the added content (same for strongboxes or anything that has minimum guarantees)
that doesnt make sense, the added content scales the 'freebie' content therefore changes its value (think of sextants for exemple, they apply to all boxes, free or not)
@@frater_niram True. But what I meant was when talking about the profit of an added cost, then only consider the actual added value of the cost. If something scales then only consider scaled value minus base value. Same idea as "scaling" essences by adding 3. It doesn't make the freebie any better, so it isn't helping to offset the profitability of adding 3
@@MrXami08 more or increased or added base profit ? : )
im unable to make a copy of the file, i cant seem to get google sheets to show the make a copy and trying to ctrl shift f to show toolbar is not working
nevermind found a solution in the lower commnent
This is awesome, thanks for creating it and sharing!
does quantity affect essences? can I run the maps white?
How do I use this for HC? How and where do the values differ from sc?
GOAT'd content creator
Hey brother thanks for the insane amount of work you do for the community. Out of curiosity do you know why when I open your Google Document it never has the option to create a copy? As in there is never file or anything else at the top. I am thinking it may be a traffic thing... any thoughts?
its a traffic thing... hippster co working shit ruining the world for everyone again :)
it's because there's like 2500 people trying to open the file at once, just wait a bit and refresh and it will load eventually
fix: take the link to the actual doc, and replace everything after "cuQ4Cs" with /copy, that will automatically create a copy of the spreadsheet
@@JusRachel Thanks this worked perfectly... you are a Hero!
Technically it would cost 10 chaos to gain 16.84 chaos, netting 6.84 in profit. You don't count the initial 4.21 you were already going to get by doing the normal run.
He talked about per map profit. Therefore you would not subtract the baseline profit.
could someone tell me, what build will be good for farming blights and expeditions?
Yes
You forgot to include a link.
Thanks for all the things you do. can you please make a video about new atlas tree
you are the best dude thanks for the good work
Good stuff, man! Looking forwarding to trading for a few mirror wands from you this league so I can finally beat Zboub's Storm Brand Inquisitor.
Quick question: What if I want to maintain standard prices on my own copy? I'm skipping next league, and this would help a ton on standard
Mind me asking why you’re skipping the league?
@@AlexWhalen99 College busy period will coincide with this League, so I can't be dedicating that much time to it. I still want to play PoE, so 1-2h on standard every now and then is perfect. And if I can use this tool to make it as effective as I can like I did in Archnemesis, that'll be even better.
I don't understand what type of items is he selling to come up with the numbers. Strongboxes for example, what comes out of them that makes them so valuable? I don't get it
How is it possible that mean profit of Twisted invitation is around 420 c? :O 6 crescent splinters are eual to ~90-100c, let's say we drop 3 shaper fragments which are around 10-12c each, that sets us at around 130c value, minus the cost of the invitation which is at around 40c. Whare are the other drops that we can get there? I was running shaper guardian maps + twisted invitations last league, did hundreds of maps, my profit/value of twisted invitation was nowhere near the numbers that are being shown there, am I missing something?
standard is a whole different beast, dont pay attention to the current values, when league begins it'll be set to league
Because the data used in this spreadsheet is taken from standard and prices there are bizarre, so basically every profit You see on the spreadsheet is going to be waaaaay different on league.
@@silverforever226 @Path of Matth ah damn, I thought this spreadhseet is/was set to the Archnemesis league, that is what confused me. Thanks for the explanation!
@@pathofmatth Thanks for a quick response, and based on your experience, what do you find more profitable, shaper guardian runs + invitations or doing shaper runs alone or maybe combining all of them together? Shaper guardians + formed + shaper run with the obtained fragments? Shaper seems to be a very stable profit
No Ritual so does that mean it is not profitable at all?
yes. unless you get a mirror
guys how do you make a copy and save i dont understand how too
Lmfao that thumbnail and the content itself are both an instaclick, top tier my guy
yo man im not gonna rly watch the video but i love the fucking thumbnail its amazing!
you always find ways to help others make currency, thanks
cant find the atlas tree link for expedition Sadge
@path of matth hey matt , just watched your Tri ele bow video , would love to mirror that bow in standard
I will start this league as a bossing focused character for the first time (I did always start as mapper in the past) and would like to know how i go on in atlas passives. Do i get other passives than bossing related nodes first to get some base currency going for gear or just straight to boss nodes and rush as many maps as possible for map boss related drops and fragments?
Hey dude just tried to make a copy, but I don't even have the normal options / my screen looks very different, is this due to the crashing you were talking about?
NVM some chad in the comments was on it. I would pin the comment from Rachel van den Broek if you could.
Damn no info about ritual or abyss D: was curious how it's lookin for this new league I thought about messing with them
Could you make a vid on why bossing is so profitable early in the league and what are the things people who boss early farm as well as how to capitalize on that early inflation efficiently :) Could be cool
You did go over bossing a bit, but the meta early on I imagine is starkly different given gear limitations and people paying premium for boss drop uniques.
common sense. supply and demand
@@XCygnusX youre a loser
just like wink says, but ill expand for you
earlier builds need unique items => bossfights early league
later builds need crafted items => mapping late league
where is the info for infintiy heist
thank you, appreciate your work
Hey, what do u think about Goratha Spark? I kinda don't want to play traps, but also I want to do bosses day 3-4.
generals cry? explosive arrow? skeleton mages? siege ballista? cold dot?
no but honestly the build looks very good. i did a run yesterday and its super straight forward and smooth. except .. for softcore .. you might want to make a few changes to gorathas version. you can get way more damage if you re willing to die a few times here and there
thank for share a lot of Rich information^^
Nice work Dude :)
I hear your words and I see your numbers but my brain is telling me to just alch and go
Actually seeing you set the values to standard economy as a placeholder I'd like to ask you if there's any chance you could make a permanent copy of document set for standard? Maybe we're like 10% of player base but it would be huge for us there :D
How to not get flashbanged and swap to this dark mode gdoc ?
dark reader
@@smenkinsa Thanks :)
The way im playing poe, deserves to be called path of math
Get trapper, farm Shaper 24 hours, sell fragrz and stuff, get HH, make MF - done, ure rich
Me strong. Me hit things. Things go boom boom.
ty you ar legend !
like 4 wing unusual gems net me a profit of like 20-50c ... over the test of like 50 blueprints this weekend ... im actualy unsure how it is supposed to be 1.5k chaos profit ever ? without getting one of the perfect gems ... same side i cant see in current market to make any meaningfull profit running those ... 40-150c per hour is well ? not good
The way it works is via the Calc of the weightings of each gem in the pool. It should be very much accurate as the weightings are public and the formula is sound, I've verified it many times.
One thing to note however is that gems in blueprints are found at random levels and random rarity which makes it much more complicated so we use price of gems at 20-20 I believe, which means some niche gems will probably throw off some of the data but there's no way to fix that
impressive
Such hilarious thumbnail.... LOL
Damn, is Delve that bad? :(
Yes king
Amazing
1.2k maps for essences. Bruh. I get 40/40 several leagues in a row, and i dont think i do 1.2k maps per whole league. Fml.f.m.l!
awesome
14 hours later and i cant make a copy yet xd
Imagine playing trade