Competition Ammo for USPSA & IDPA - Everything you need to know about choosing the right ammo!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In this video, I touch on the important thing you need to know and understand for choosing the right ammo for competition. I go over the nuances of USPSA and IDPA approach their rules as well as understanding Power Factor, performance and reliability.
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In IDPA non chorno club matches I run 115g through my rival's ported barrel... Chrono on it was like 109 pf XD but I run cheap 115g ammo. To make bare min pf for me had to run 124g. USPSA I run my non ported barrel 147 at about ~130 pf. I do like that I can stay competitive with the rival in idpa with just 1 barrel swap with all the XCs and generally 2011s running around these days.
I have been trying to find a Rival -S barrel to send and get ported! I had to send my Rival -S to Canik for warranty work and they changed my original barrel and it's eating everything now
I think it's harder to tune ignition for feel using power factor floor ammo.
There's just more to work with in a hammer fired system. There's mechanical interference you can speed up or slow down for "feel".
The rest is just tuning ignition with powder type and spring to finish off the "feel"
I haven’t had a chance to try this with a Rival, but what you’re saying makes total sense. Whatever 115g though comes out to 109 PF has very, very, very slow burning powder… is this some of the steel cased stuff?
Also, curious on your ported barrel setup if you don’t mind sharing? (How many ports as well as how soon the first ports start from the camber)
You are really producing some excellent content. Thank you.
the humble marksman mentioned, a couple times in some of his videos, that competition shooters prefer hollow point 147 ammo. just curious if you know why that is? and also I heard it's not recommended to use Polymer coated ammo on comp guns like staccato xc?
It's nice that there's commercially available ammo that adhere's to power factor. Velocity floor chasing is usually the first reason to get a chrono bc people think theyll have an advantage with less recoil. That isnt the whole story. The trick is going to be whether you need a specific load length along with the inevitable spring and parts tuning while "optimizing". So many people have no idea how projectile weight, power type, pistol springing, mag tuning, hard parts interactions can really improve the feel of your overall experience until they do it.
Bro I showed up at the OK state match with 0 idea. Just a c2 and 124gr Blazer hoping for the best lol. Great video, thanks for the info.
That was probably fine lol.
@@TheGentlemanGunner yeah it was well over but I was just like uhhhh whoops when I pulled up.
i recognize those stages from TSO :)
Was looking foward to this!!
I have been using 124gr factory ammo and realize if i don't get a lighter recoil round i wint be able to beat the other guys. Do you know anyone competing with factory hotter rounds?
@@jackomalley3687 I know GMs that just use regular blazer 115… purely preference and cost at that skill level
Great video. Videos like this are bringing the competition zine to a modern audience. Really appreciate the high quality production and information. 🤘
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Something you missed is the difference in chamber tightness (tighter chamber = higher velocity), and rifling (lands and grooves are slower than polygonal rifling). Those can shift velocities as much as 100 fps.
I didn’t forget… I just learned something new 🫡
What’s your experience with aluminum case vs. brass? Does it matter? I love my Tulammo 😂
Blazer to Blazer…. Brass is touch more consistent with a shorter variance
Ive started to use Black Dot Ammunition and its been a very consistent accurate load. Been shooting 147gr. in my Canik Rival S. Just bought some 124gr. to see how it performs. Also love Fenix 147 gr. 1st time i shot it thought my gun didnt fire. Extremely soft shooting.
I should’ve probably mentioned a little more about Black Dot… they also roll-size their cases… giving a near-new like dimensions. I’ve generally had good experiences with Black Dot and they’re one of the few the offer solid Major loads (9 major) for a good price
Thanks for the discussion and info. I like the Super Vel new and I am few hundred reloads deep with maybe 1 light strike hard to complain they are a great company!
I will say this… I have had occasional challenges with the reloaded ammo… but I’ve had some good conversations with their Customer Service and have always been open to both feedback and an equitable remedy
What ammo do you use for your DS9 for IDPA?
Keep the content coming! We appreciate it
Federal Eagle 124
Back in the early 80's when I competed in the UKPSA, Major Power Factor was based on .45 ACP Military ball ammo. 230 gr at 830 fps. A PF of 190. I shot a 200 gr hard cast semi wadcutter bullet at just under 1,000 fps. At that time Practical shooting still adhered to Jeff Cooper's definition of a defensive handgun and ammo, and concealed carry. How sad to see PS turn into a gun game using Race guns and squid loads. IDPA was introduced to counter this trend. Seems now even IDPA has wimped out.
I shoot my old M1911A1 with ammo like that… it’s a “yee-haw” experience for me. But it’s interesting to watch guys that load gamer loads for 45… there’s an old folk story in our area… guy loaded a 45 round so light that it didn’t even break the cardboard… everyone that day couldn’t stop laughing hard enough
@@TheGentlemanGunner laughs in SASS. FYI, I've seen a 45 bullet that had obviously been shot in the gravel near the shooting line. A lot of us shot mouse fart loads, but I don't think I've actually seen a bullet just bounce off a target like this.
If you had to pick just one brand & weight of factory 9mm FMJ for any full size striker fired pistol for IDPA & USPSA, what would it be?
Blazer 115 Aluminum… goes bang everytime out of every gun and makes power factor.
Syntech 150 is only second because I like faster projectiles out of small comp setups
I shoot 124 Cci blazer brass for both. 2 Glocks, Timney triggers. 0 malfunctions in 10 matches.
Does this matter at local matches? I have a mix of ammo
Officially, yes. In the years Ive shot my local matches... I can't recall Chrono ever happening.
Nice vid!
Don't forget to mention that thanks to the USPSA's involvement with manufactures, there is some BS involved. I have a close friend who uses the Sig 'certified match ammo', which is minor 9mm used by this competitor for carry optics. They have chronographed it numerous times at different temps and elevation and it has no even one time made minor power factor. Oddly enough, most any match master will look at the boxes of ammo and if it's this Sig ammo, they just accept it as minor. It's things like this, along with many of the self destructive and otherwise poor decisions made by the heads of USPSA that make me want for another organization that akin to USPSA 25-30 years ago.
Excellent video, sir. I thank you for your efforts.