Vintage B&O 8mm Film
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- B&O in Cleveland and Ravenna Ohio, c.1958-62. Steam switching at the Cleveland W. 3rd St. Yard.
The wreck was in Ravenna, Ohio and it was caused by a freight that had derailed going 40MPH. Eastbound. No. 17 came along at 55 MPH. E-7s 1432 leading and 1445 trailing. Hit derailed Extra 4511 East freight fouling Track One. 16 people injured. Caused by broken spring plank on gondola B&O 352318. Anyone know what the name of the Pullman car was? Didn't get it on film! Filmed by my father 5/26/62.
Last shot is B&O S-2 at Brookside Park, Cleveland.
Thanks for watching!
Appreciate your uploading this! Color film wasn't cheap in those days- so seeing color footage is an added bonus. Some great shots of "the big hook" in action!
Thanks for posting this, not only for the historical reference, but also this is great modeling reference for the folks that model trains of this era. Color photos & video/film are more the exception than the norm from then, so things like this are always valued greatly.
No hard hats, no safety glasses, no hearing protection, no steel-toed boots. It was a different era
And, the railroads had their own wrecking crews and equipment. Today, the work is done by outside contractors.
That "different era" made me deaf as a rock.
Sounds better
They got shit done and were smart enough to not do stupid shit and get hurt.
Safety equipment is just stupid. They didn’t have accidents back in those days, the employees were immune from them.
Thanks for sharing. E7A 1432 was retired. 1445, which was an E8A, was put back in service and lasted until 1971
Thanks for the great footage. Yes, the big hook in action is something to see! I saw the Capitol Limited and the Shenandoah there early in the morning with two E units and three and two cars, respectively. I used to spend some evenings in the RAV Tower there in Ravenna with Mr.Brown around 1972, when Penn Central also still ran some trains over the B&O to the connection with the former PRR line from Alliance up to Cleveland. All "Armstrong levers" and mechanical rod connections to the track switches. PRR trains were referred to as a "streak of rust."
RE: End shot at Brookside Park, unreal seeing this BEFORE I-71. Like another universe. Hard to reconcile the shots at W3rd street with what remains there today. You can see the Terminal Tower and the Ohio Bell building in the background on a few shots. I think one diamond remains at the crossing with the Wheeling seen here with the Nickle Plate west side of river switch job, they removed the second diamond and draw bridge crossing the river not too many years ago - Thanks for the great movies.
My Grandfather was the Union VP and lived in Cleveland around this time (maybe a little earlier) and my Uncle worked in the yard.
There was a HUGE arsennal at Ravenna. There was over 130 miles of track and a yard big enough to hold 500 cars I believe. Most of the track is gone now, but most of the bunkers and warehouses are still there.
Great video! If anyone's interested, the Ravenna wreck was just east of the South Prospect St. overpass, where the dirt portion of South Walnut Street parallels the track.
you have very good knowledge LordCarpenter...thank you...Jim in streetsboro
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Hi Bingo... My dad used a wind-up Bell & Howell Model 323 8mm.
The film you bought then was 25 feet of 16mm and you had to flip it in the camera and shoot the other side. Then the processor would slit it into two 8mm strips and splice it into one 50 foot reel!
Thanks for commenting...
A wonderful video, Thanks from Germany
Thank you! I enjoy videos of Europe, too :-)
Cool vid. Reminds me of being at work though.
Fantastic post. I've always been a fan of vintage rail video. It brings me back to when I was a kid in the the 70's. I could still see those passenger trains in my mind. Nice job. Thanks for posting this. Liked it!
A derailment like that in Ravenna at the time could have been very disastrous, the Ravenna Arsenal was manufacturing all sorts of ammo for the Vietnam war at the time. It was the largest ammunition manufacturing plant in the world during WWII.
i love historical footage.
the crane, or whatever the rail road calls it, at 7:16 ,i saw the fire inside of it and wondered for a second what that was for. then i remembered, steam was still powering a lot of things in 1962.
without footage like this, we would forget how quickly our lives have changed.
thanks for posting this.
it is called a derrick crane, used for cleaning up wrecks and things, also 1958 that was the last year that revenue steam ended on the B&O, last division to diesleize was willard, garrett,and chicago division, the last trip pulled by a T3 went with a rail fan trip from chicago to garrett to willard in ohio, and then came back in a day, and when it hit chicago it ended over 100 years of steam on the B&O. so it was a very late catch indeed.
Ravenna derailment is rail line between lake street and Hazen ave. On chestnut st. The hill where it was filmed is my back yard (the overhead rail line is not there anymore) great video you tube is a good way to preserve history good or bad. If you have any more please post
No graffiti on any of the rail cars I wish it was like that now.
GREAT VID!!! I really love the boom crane footage! I've never seen footage of a working railroad steam crane. I hope you can get the sound with it one day. A++!
Love the big hook in action!
Lost in all of this is the fact we will never see AMERICAS GREATNESS AGAIN.....When people worked and our industries were second to none
It's such a tragedy that all those trains and railroads are gone. If we could only bring back the trains, cars, morals, patriotism, and prices from a better time, while retaining our computers, Nintendo, Cartoon Network, current Pope, etc...
Current Pope? The communist?
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Thank You! Glad I could rekindle some fond memories...
Such Horrific Destruction. Corruption No Doubt💔
Corruption? No. Corrosion, yes. Economics. A critical part on a freight car, the spring plank, had been reused from another, older freight car. It failed, derailing the freight train. The passenger train ran into the wreckage of the derailed freight train. Better inspections, better materials and better policy on reusing old parts hopefully reduces such risks. Thank You.
Thanks for the comments! Take a look at my 4070 roundhouse ready track video for more scenes around W. 3rd St. and Clark Ave. yard. Thanks again!
Thank you for the upload!
Very cool! I worked as a brakeman for the B&O (Chessie System) for a while in '77, mostly out of the yards in Lorain though I worked the road board a couple of times, went from Lorain to Newcastle PA. I also raced motocross at the time and often raced at the track in Ravenna.
Sure wish I had gotten to see some of the steam days, thanks for sharing! Oldest stuff I got to play on was an SW1200 and an SD9 :\
BTW dunno if it's still there but there was a thermos bottle 0-4-0 at CEI in Avon Lake
the good ole days
Thank You! It was for many of us...
This colour film footage is so cool!!! Thank you so much for posting this. I am watching this video in India, a country where we have a huge network of railways that was dominated by steam locomotives once. When I was a kid, we used to 'bribe' the engine drivers and ride with them! That was an awesome experience to see the operators work. AND IT WAS A LOT OF WORK to make those black beauties run!!! This video is unique in the sense that it is a rare footage in colour. Hope to see more! :)
the last time I saw a B&O hook at work was in 1977 working a derailment in the valley yard in Akron
Railroads have abolished most of those wrecking crews and cranes, etc. They now rely on outside contractors to do the work.
The Mainline Steam has completed giveaway to Diesel Power on the B&O.
A better time ! Much cooler back then!
nice video, look forward to seeing more.
@juniorcarterlumber thanks for the post. I too have some footage of this wreck that I just got from my Uncle which in turn got it from his dad (my grandfather). I will be posting to my channel within the next day or two.
6byteme9 I will check it out! Thanks for the info!
If you have more of these, you should put them out on DVD.
Nice video. Would love to see a working steam rr crane. Would love to see a restored A-B-A se of E-8a's in B&O and some head end equipment
Where did you get this footage from? Great video!
Very nice footage, well done.
@Dockshund Thanks... Hope to get a few more wreck scenes posted soon.
Amazing that as long as you stayed out of the way nobody bothered you about taking pictures at a wreck... try that today!
I didn't get here until June of 62
@gmpullman This video is really cool it almost looks like an old cartoon or something......Do you know what camera you dad filmed this video with?
0:14 that might be an E Class consolidation type
Sinclair had a refinery in Cleveland? Also, the large substation at the beginning was interesting.
"Waste all the remaining steam locomotives! Cut them apart & melt them down"
Everyone is entitled to their [inoffensive] opinion. Maybe he is a diesel mechanic looking for work?
Thanks for commenting!
No idea which Pullman , looks 2 b one of the river series 10 - 6's.
I know where the trains are in the video, but still wish it told you where
You can find the ICC report to the Sterling wreck here
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How many dead people in this ACCIDENT ..?
Sixteen injured including the baggageman and flagman of train #17. No fatalities.
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Did anyone die in the accident?
Hi,
There were no fatalities. Sixteen injured. 13 passengers, one dining car employee, the baggageman and flagman. I have the ICC accident investigation No. 3952 dated 20 November 1962. The accident occurred 26 May 1962.
Thanks for asking...
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Yes! All Good! Thank you.
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Hows about some music to this ?
Jazz?
+nicholasdala Good Suggestion! I'll put that on my to-do list.Thanks!
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