FIRST DIESEL PUSHER? | WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW | TRANSITIONING FROM GAS RV TO DIESEL
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- If you are transitioning from a Gas RV or if this is your first Diesel Pusher there is a lot to consider and it's not as simple as changing the type of fuel your engine takes.
If you are looking to purchase a Diesel Pusher RV then this video is for you. We will focus on high quality , affordable Diesel pushers that range from $50k to $150k, that are higher quality than some of the newer coaches.
We will focus on the mechanical aspects of Diesel Pushers vs the Layout and take you though a list of things it should have and should not have to help you narrow down your search.
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This video should be required viewing for anyone considering a pusher. We purchased our 06 450 Lxi Wanderlodge after going through the same thought processes. All coaches have issues and some are endemic to the coach and model. None check all the boxes but your advice is spot on. Thanks again. Just subscribed.
We just had a Wanderlodge next to us - what a beautiful coach!!! Thanks for the positive comments!!!
Well as soon as you step up into side radiator and Aqua hot the price jumps up a lot
I would love to get the list that shows which models and years to avoid..
@@jamesbondaygee Amen!
My first RV was a Blue Bird SP36 3208t cat diesel pusher.. we do a lot of mountain driving here in NC and the bus has been great. I think a gas motor would have blown up by now.. 5 years later still going as strong as ever.. great vid brother..
Thanks for sharing!
The magic that was happening in central Oregon back in the 90's and early 00's is unparalleled in the industry. Safari, Beaver, County Coach and some Monaco's. Oregon motorcoach is still a premium repair shop started by Bob Lee, and Premier Rv in the old Country Coach building, Coach glass, Kaiser brake and wheel, Beaver Coach Services in Bend, Rv Outfitters, Coachmasters and a host of others who all grew up in the industry and still support the sweet spot coaches built from 1997 to 2007. I would buy one of these any day before I'd buy anything after 2007
Agree 💯 with your comment
When you guys say country coach are you referring to Newmar? I'm choosing my big motor home RV so there's a lot to study. I was thinking newmar, but it's hard to know which is the right one
@@jamesbondaygee James, Newmar, although a great product, is not Country Coach. Country Coach engineered their own chassis, based on semi monocoque welded steel, distributed weight, suspension and leveling. These coaches are highly sought after, especially the C13 Cat motor pre DEF and pre electronic emissions. We have a 2007 Intrigue on RV Trader you might be interested in. Only 15k miles.
@@bubbafringman1864 that's good information guys. My friends I was looking at a 94 Tiffin Allegro diesel vs 94 Newmar kountry star gas. Which sounds better to you folks?
@@jamesbondaygee I'm not that familiar with Tiffin products, or Newmar. Those east coast companies that came out of Elkhorn Indiana and are now owned by the Rev group. Not a fan of big investment firm owners. Not sure what chassis they're using, if the roofs are one piece fiberglass, gel coat sidewalls, engineered weight distribution, semi monocoque welded chassis, full air leveling. Ask the author of this video. I think he would know.
Just bought a 2005 Winnebago Journey 39k with a 350HP Cat. All maintenance done annually at Freightliner in Gaffney, SC. Inside redone at Classic Coach in Florida I think. New flooring (no carpet), all LED lighting, residential fridge, etc. Brand new Michelins. Full body paint from factory is in pretty darn good shape (stored under cover). And they used it... it didn't sit around forever. My wife and I LOVE it! So far, so good. Already have an appointment at Freightliner in Gaffney for November. Just an awesome pusher. Love the basement AC as well. Thanks for the video!
Congratulations 🎉
Good info and you're right. 2000-2009 was the "sweet spot" for diesel pushers. Unfortunately the recession hit and Country Coach fell victim. Sad story about that brand. So many employees who really did care about the product they were putting out to the buying public.
you nailed it.
Great video with a lot of good info! I sold many of the High end coaches like County Coach, the entire Monaco line, Holiday Rambler full line and Safaris in the late 1995 and up to 2003. Those years and up to the late 2000's the chassis were almost all semi- mono and custom designed for each Floorplan, with 8 or 10 airbags and shocks depending on the Floorplan and length of the coach.
I myself now own and maintain a 004 HR 44' Navigator and previously owned a 40' Monaco Windsor, both are very good coaches. You may want to edit that video and correct your statement with regard to the Roadmaster chassis!
Good points
A very informative video and I agree with your thoughts. One thing is that the Roadmaster S chassis is a 10 air bag, proprietary, custom chassis,, unlike the truck raised rail chassis like Freightliner, used on the high end Monaco brand models such as the Holiday Rambler Navigator, Beaver Marquis, and Monaco Signature. These are also built with the semi-monocoque chassis. Like the Country Coach, Monaco coaches were built in Oregon and are very high quality coaches.
Thanks for the information
OMG. This was so great for me. We are looking to move from a 5th wheel to a class A or super C. Thank, thank, thank, I hit every button I can. Just found your channel and just in time.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice Job on these vids. My husband and I are in the search for a new way to camp. Coming from bumper pull rig for 8 years to class A life. So this video and list are particularly helpful. So appreciated.
Glad you liked it. We have some other videos with yours if different coaches
I’ve had diesel pushers for about 10-12 years, beginning with a 1999 Winnebago Suncruiser 34ft., to a 2012 Tiffin
Allegro Red 38ft. One thing that was most important in both RVs: The Chassis. I considered the Cummins-Allison-Freightliner Chassis to be the gold standard, all the rest is bells & whistles.
Great presentation and good points!! Regarding DEF, sooner or later all engines will come with DEF so I hope manufacturers will get it right as far as the system reliability itself!! Us users do our bit which is protecting the environment but them as manufacturers should also do their homework!!
Well said!
Jamie , I've been a diesel guy 12 yrs. I can tell you and everyone in the free world, blue Def, egr coolers plus egr systems are THE DEATH OF A GOOD DIESEL
It isn't the manufacturers. It's just another system that requires maintenance. You can't use the same oil filter for the life of an engine. The DEF system is basically a filter for the exhaust.
Great video, I bought a 36 foot western RV Cummins diesel pusher. Drove it 35 miles to my RV storage lot in south Florida with my problems. It's 1998 with a great chassis. I'm going to sell it real cheap sioi Don't need it.
Good start, but a couple big items not covered… a) DPF came on the scene in 2008 and some late 2007 coaches. Run, don’t walk away from these. When the DPF gets clogged with soot, inevitable, the computer senses the problem and attempts to burn the soot out by blasting essentially a built in blowtorch through the filter. This is the dreaded ‘regen’ process. If regen fails to make the sensor happy, the engine ‘derates’, in other words, runs at a fraction of full power. If you don’t get service soon, it simply won’t run at all. b) some of these same coaches have a ‘variable geometry turbocharger’ which are fragile and expensive to replace and too many coaches have had multiple turbos replaced at $12-15k per. c) to offset the power drain of the emission stuff, 2008 and newer coaches have higher horsepower. But, that should not be seen as an advantage over older coaches. d) 7 foot ceilings didn’t become common until around 2006. Same for one-piece windshields. So ‘06 & newer feel more modern. IMO, the sweet spot is ‘06 & ‘07. e) mid-2000 Tiffins suffered from some dreadful engineering issues referred to as ‘the big three’. So make sure they have been fixed if looking at a Tiffin. Disclosure, I’ve owned a 2007 Beaver Contessa for 6 years after first putting money on a Tiffin and backing out of the deal.
Great Points Will - Noted
Thank you California for making us have a DEF system. Even the regen. system has sensor problems. I drove semi's for 42 years sp I know all the problems with both exhaust systems. And then there how both systems kills fuel milage. I have a 2002 36ft with a 3126 cat which is a 7.2L engine with 330 hp. I tow a XT5 Caddy behind and in the mountains I got 7.8 mpg and in the flat areas up to 11.9 mpg. I did have a 33ft gas which I never got over 6.1 and that's not even towing.
I am in the process of looking for our first diesel pusher. The Monaco coach is the most appealing to me. The side mounted radiator is a must have for me as I want to have full access to the engine compartment. I have learned quite a bit and have a couple of nationwide search’s going in hopes of finding exactly the right coach for us.
Good to hear, Monaco is a great coach. Check out our latest video that on how to do dig deeper into which ever model you get. ruclips.net/video/6_d0gxVx8z4/видео.html
Wow this was a great video. We just bought our first coach. It is a 1992 Vogue Prima Vista. Having a hard time finding other owners, because they’re weren’t that many built. At the time, they were custom made, so each coach is different. Ours is a 35’ and so far we love it. We do have a lot of questions regarding the coach itself, but as previously mentioned, hard to find other owners. We are on IRV 2 and so far have learned some general information, but would love to know more about our particular coach. Btw, it was handcrafted by the Amish, so the finish work is exquisite! All walnut interior as well. We’re hooked!
Just an FYI. The Roadmaster Chassis company was owned by Monaco and was used on Monaco, Holiday Rambler and some later Beavers. It is a fantastic chassis up until the last year before Monaco went belly up. Also, it was 2007 when a lot of the emissions stuff began with diesel particulate filters and DEF, but there were many left over engines that might be a 2009 and did not have either.
Good Information
Another HUGE point you missed is finding someone to work on your rig if you breakdown. We broke down just outside of Springfield Missouri. I spent over 6 hours calling places and NOBODY wanted anything to do with fixing a diesel motorhome!
I ended up putting my wife and dog on a plane to fly home. I had to fix it myself! Had it towed to Freightliner where I stayed in their parking lot for 3 weeks while I waited for various parts to come in.
I don’t know what someone who isn’t mechanically inclined would hav e done! It was unbelievable to me that nobody would work on it. Freightliner would only work on it if it was under warranty. Other “diesel” shops said no, we don’t want to work on a motorhome. And that was even with me offering to take the bedroom apart!
I think in another video o called out that it helps to be mechanically inclined or at least at a minimum willing to learn.
@@RVIntoRetirement fortunately ours can with a huge collapsible briefcase filled with manuals. You should get a university degree after reading all of it!
There are so many things that you can mess up if not done correctly. Although we rented from people before buying, it made me think that I would never do that.
From my experience owning a tractor/trailer, even if you can find a shop that will work on it, good luck finding a shop that will fix it correctly.
Awesome, just buying our first one, some much needed information because there is a lot to know, makes me feel better about the one we’re looking at!
I just came across your video here and I wished I seen it sooner. You give some good advice and made points that I hadn't thought of. We just switched from our 1999 Dutch Star (gas) to a 2011 Newmar Ventana diesel pusher. I'm not disappointed in my purchase but one thing I really wanted was a side radiator although that wasn't a deal breaker. Finding an affordable diesel pusher with everything is not going to happen so I gave up some of the wants. I'm going to go back through and watch your past videos especially on your coach. That is really nice and one thing I noticed was the slides. You only see those types on high end motor coaches.
Thanks for joining. Foretravel makes a good product and you can get quality older ones for a very reasonable price
One more thing to add about rear radiator is that a vortex is created when driving and they become dirty in now time. I ended up buying a garden hose and I hose it down when I arrive at a site. You don’t want that dirt clogging up the fins or you will be roadside with an overheated rig.
Very true
This video is the most helpful in our investigations. Thank you for sharing.
Glad to hear it was helpful
This is a helpful vid for new shoppers of pushers. Re chassis, you said "Freightliner or Roadmaster. Roadmaster is Monaco's in-house custom chassis. You probably meant Freightliner or Spartan which were the two dominant chassis for coach builders back in the early 2000's. Personally, today, I would only purchase an older coach from 2001 to 2010 (sans DEF of course) from any of these in no particular order. Monaco (Beaver), Country Coach, Foretravel or Holiday Rambler. What is my order of priority? 1 Foretravel, 2 Monaco, 3 Country Coach, 4 Holiday Rambler. This is based on many factors but these are my choices. Current owner of Beaver Marquis Tourmaline. Hope this helps!
Subscribed and Saved. We are in the process of starting to look for a Diesel Pusher. This video should be a requirement to watch. It covers so many topics and important advice in making sure you get a make a informed choice on what to buy. Thank you for the great video.
Well Thanks you for the positive comments and good luck in your process. I recommend you watch this video to help you with your research.
Lots of good info in this video, i appreciate your advice.
Thanks Bob. Appreciate the positive comment.
I believe it should be clarified: there isn't a problem with aluminum radiators specifically. It was a generation/manufacturing process specifically that was the problem.
After all, aluminum is an excellent material for a radiator and very strong, providing it's fabricated properly. In short, better to pay close attention to who/when the aluminum radiator was manufactured, rather than attempting to avoid aluminum altogether.
Thanks for the clarification
Regarding def, a diesel mechanic told me that engines that used to get 1.2 million miles and now they are lucky to get 800 K. Now it’s doubtful an RV’er is going to drive that mileage but it’s food for thought.
We lig less than 10,000 miles a year and that's full time. Still don want DEF
@@RVIntoRetirement I agree! I used to have a 2016 Ford Transit. It was $3,000 just for the def filter!!……hard pass on def
I had over 700K on my Freightliner with a Cummins engine. I never had a problem with the engine itself. I did have to replace the DPF once.
EGR: 2004
DPF: 2008
SCR/DEF:2011
Specific federal mandate year (as of Jan. 1) shown. This applies to the manufacturing date of the ENGINE, not the coach, so some later model coaches using pre emissions motors were exempt. Also, some engine manufacturers introduced the new emissions technology ahead of the federal deadlines. Some states enacted stricter emissions laws earlier too.
Thanks for your input
What a great video!!!!!!! I really appreciate this information. We are diving into the RV life and have no one to guide us!
Glad it was helpful!
Overall good information. A couple of corrections. Flexsteel did not pick the fabric on the products used in Motorhomes. Each builder specifies what fabric they want. A lot of builders got hit with the cheaper fabric from China. Lambright makes quality RV furniture as well as Villa and they were hit with the issue as well. Mr. Lambright told me he quit selling to Newmar because in some of their lines they used that cheap fabric and he was getting blamed for building a bad chair, but his chair was fine it was the fabric that was used on it that was at fault. Although there may still be units with the bad fabric still out there for the most part they have been recovered with better fabric. The word Ultraleather has become for vinyl the same as Kleenex has for facial tissue. So, if you must have one redone make sure you are getting “Ultraleather” the real thing. It is a Japanese company and is a good product.
For the most part the DEF issue is behind us. One thing to be sure of is that your engine, which will be a Cummins, has had all the updates needed. Some of those updates took care of most of the DEF failures.
Also, yes it may be great not to have DEF but here is an issue you also must consider, a lot of the nicer campgrounds do not accept coaches 10 years old or older. I know it sounds crazy, let’s say you have a 2002 Prevost, Newell or even Foretravel, that originally was a $1 mil coach, and you just paid $350k for it, you can’t come in.
I have NEVER seen this occur with Villa Furniture and it was predominate with Flexsteel.
Good…there is upsides to rear radiator as well….side mounts require more hp as the belts are hydraulic driven, and of course can cause hydraulic problems….some of the better built coaches you simply open a side panel by the engine and there are all your filters including side mount coaches
Check those air bags ….also look for leaks in air system…also know when the air dryer filter was last replaced…
Great information - thanks for the comment.
none of the high end coaches use a rear radiator, they are ALL side radiator, I wonder why that is?.......
It was very smart getting something without DEF. It will be a problem at some point. I'll never own anything that uses DEF again.
Great video! Hoping to get a great 2000-2009 RV for our retirement!
Best of luck!
IF IT WASN'T FOR ACCESSIBILITY TO THE ENGINE WHEN YOU'RE FLYING DOWN THE HIGHWAY THERE IS THAT SWIRL THAT COMES AROUND AND ACTUALLY WOULD PROBABLY MAKE A REAR RADIATOR COOLER
Thank you. That was great info. Im looking for a pusher 2005-2009 and this was very helpfull.
You're welcome!
Very informative video it’s really helpful in my search for a good motorhome thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing
Extremely helpful. Many thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice advice on what to consider when choosing a Class A diesel. I've heard many experienced people talk about the quality of the same manufacturers you mention when it comes to coaches made between 2000 and 2009 or thereabouts. There is another thing that I think is worth considering... When choosing among the quality manufacturers, what is the availability of expert service? For example, living in Texas, would I get into a situation where I would ever have to take my Country Coach to Premier or Oregon Motor Coach? I know that I can much more easily get to Nacogdoches or Miam-uh from Austin. Thanks for the video, hope you guys and the dogs are enjoying your summer.
Hi Tony As always thanks for the comments. I would feel comfortable bringing any of these coaches to either Motor Homes of Texas or even Foretravel. Foretravel's service department does not limit themselves to just Foretravel. We use a former Country Coach guy in Tucson Az to work on our Foretravel and did with our Country Coach also. They are out there if you follow the forums for the particular manufacturer you will find out from owners who to trust for service.
Very simple and thorough video and I agree with your points.
Thanks
"Affordable" is clearly subjective.
Very informative. Just starting search! Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE READ MY COMMENT . I'm a old trucker to start with , been driving truck almost 45 years and I prefer a truck with a Cummins motor . If there is any doubt in comments , then any trucker how many miles they got on their semi truck , it would be a safe bet it would be from 250 thousand miles to 500,000 miles and still going strong . Nobody that has a diesel pusher motorhome would never come close to put on same miles like a semi driver would . Diesel pusher motor would probably get about 175 thousand miles , then the motor being needing big repairs . One of my co workers he buys 2008 1 ton Dodge with a Cummins , last year he tells me has over 800,000 miles on his Dodge truck and never ever did anything to the motor , just change the oil . The only reason for any diesel would get that kind of miles , because the motor is in the front . The would run a lot cooler in the front and gets lots of air flow to keep rad cooler .The cab of any diesel truck has lots of insulation , so noise level isn't too bad . here is another idea before you buy a diesel pusher motorhome ok , go to a RV Dealer , tell the sales person your interest in buying a diesel pusher and you want to take a look at , when get inside get to start it up , and go for a test drive . Next if he has a Super C motorhome and if he has take that out for test drive , you properly find out the noise in the Super C isn't that bad . When you pop open the hood to take a look at the motor , you will see how easy it is to change a belt , rad hose , engine fluid and your rad . You can change the oil your self . You would lots of storage so you can buy a few spare parts , like a belt , couplable rad roses , 1 rad hose for the top and 1 for the bottom , 2 or 3 jugs of antifreeze , few hose clamps with your tools . Think about the cash you would save . I would buy a Super C any day and not any diesel pusher. A Super C is a better investment , it would out last any retire person , then when person passes away , then he or she give leave it in their will to give it to their kids or close friends .
I'm not going to disagree with anything you said mechanically it's true. There is a difference in ride and comfort for the driver and passenger. With that said - be on the lookout for the upcoming Foretravel Super C at the big Florida show.
A lot of good information, thank you!
Thanks
Excellent! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
The best diesel pusher rvs are for sure the older beavers
Agree 💯%
1995 and below for the mechanical motors for me at least and I don't want slides
Outstanding information thank you
Our pleasure!
great video
Wow. Well said. I like to have a reasons for items not just likes and dislikes.
Thanks - good luck in your search.
Thank you for some great information!👍🏻
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for your experience
You're welcome - hope it help you
DEF is a disaster waiting to happen , 1000's of dollars to repair, think of it pumping black carbon back into your motor, they haven't perfected it it doesn't work and it ruins your motor. Good information, the depreciation on rv's is crazy definitely buy after the hit a lot of good miles left on the high end models
Agree with you on that!!!
Great video learned a lot I am new to the raving. Had a 2008 fleetwood southwind it was okay but now have my eye on a 2004 tiffin allegro bus diesel 350 was just wondering what you may think off them and what I may watch out for. Thanks again
I know a few people who have run into overheating with that size engine on the Tiffen. Could be the engine is underpowered for the weight they pulled. When you test drive look for a few hills and a warm day to keep an eye on the temp guage. I do know that our 2006 Country Coach had a 400 hp engine and ran around 190 all the time and never got hot. Go onto the forums at www.irv2.com and search in the Tiffin section to see what problems others may have had . Best of luck.
I've done a ton of research on the RV market and I have come to the conclusion my 1st RV will be a 2006-2012 Country coach Magna, Newmar London Aire, Beaver Amethyst, or an American Eagle. They all fit in my price range. They seem of great quality and everyone that owns them seems to rave about them. I've driven or been driven in every unit i've named except the Beaver which I hear is very hard to find.
Excellent Choices - but don't forget Foretravel
I have FlexSteel seats in my coach. They are leather. Sometimes they are painted fabric. There was a window of a few years around 2016 that all, even quality manufacturers went to the painted fabric. My Keystone trailer has it. Thomas Payne furniture peeled like a sunburn! As soon as the warrants is up, they shed the leather paint like a boa constrictor! They all do it, so expect zero help from warrantee. Be sure you are getting real leather.
It's a shame that quality is not there for the price we pay. Best of luck to you.
Thanks for the help!
Happy to help!
Just an Excellent Video, Thank You
Glad you enjoyed it
Great information. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
In what I think is your most recent video you show a foretravel for $65,000. Would an older coach such as this, without a slide be relatively easier to maintain or is it more likely to be a money pit? I appreciate your thoughts. Be well and stay safe. Sam in New Hampshire.
Well most all RV's tend to be money pits, but some more than others. With these older coaches they have good bones and were built solid. So if you had a budget of lets say $75k for a coach and you bought something like that one in my most recent video you have $10k still in you budget for repairs. The other thing is they hold their value for resale and handle better.
@@RVIntoRetirement Thank you for your quick reply. I appreciate it. I noticed they also have a Foretravel coach at $45,000. Probably not full paint? 300 hp instead of 400hp. Any difference in engine reliability and fuel mileage that you are aware of? I've read those old 300hp Cummins are very good engines. Thanks again.
@@kingdavidcoffee That I'm not sure of. Join www.foreforums.com there are a lot of folks there that can assist you with the older Foretravels and there are some for sale by private owners too. The biggest issue to look for is "Bulkhead Separation". It sounds worse than it is (in most cases) and there is a fix that cost about 2k. If the engines are maintained they go hundreds of thousands of miles
Villa utilized the ultra-leather without issue while Flexsteel went with a Chinese vinyl product that failed.
And now they are out of business
I have a 2001 tiffin motorhome with a caterpillar 7.2 great morthome
Road master has either 8 airbags or 10 for a tag axle
Excellent
You have been a wealth of knowledge! what do you think of the 2006 DAMON ASTORIA 3679 or have you heard of it. I cant find any negative info on one.
I think they make a great product but like everything else it will be up to how the previous owner took care of the coach
the most important task on your list should be the last one......walk away.
thank you for your information,
You are welcome
So DPF is not a concern? Been told by many many truck drivers and rv owners to RUN from all those engines .
I think DPF is a BIG concern, I talk about it at the 13 minute mark in the video - we own a pre DEF DP
@@RVIntoRetirement not DEF… DPF (diesel particulate filter). We’ve talked to many mechanic as well as truckers etc and with a search of these type engines everyone we’ve talked to have said these DPF were the reasons they went DEF trying to correct the major issues with DPF. No if they have an issue its when. We just put down money on one with DPF and as of today have backed out of the deal solely becuz it has a DPF system.
@@Thatcntrygirl1 Probably a good move on your part, DPF's seem to get clogged with soot. I'd avoid.
@@Thatcntrygirl1 DEF and DPF are the same system. I had a Freightliner that used DEF. I had to replace the DPF once. I will never own another vehicle that uses DEF.
@@jamesb.armstrong5433 Not true. DPF is a soot filtration system only. The filter has to be periodically removed and cleaned at a service shop. Selective Catalytic Reduction has a separate combustion chamber that houses the filter, injects urea (DEF) when the sensor detects restricted exhaust flow, and incinerates the soot/urea mix to clean the DPF. *The incineration process is known as "regen", or regeneration.
I've noticed that the used market is pretty flush with options from 2018 models to 2015 that fetched well over 500k-800k - being sold for 250k. Have you noticed that as well or is it just me? (I'm looking for a bit larger and some customization options which will push it to around 300k (dedicated space for office and sound studio for podcasting - putting a brand wrap or paint-job on the exterior etc). Given the range of 500k to 1m miles for a well maintained diesel engine - it seems a crime to pay full cost unless you need some kind of tax break (a depreciation curve like that would make for quite the write-off / deferred income) or exotic financial reason.
It is funny you mentioned FREDs having forward heat. I enjoyed that when driving a 27 foot truck through Flagstaff in the middle of winter. I'm not even sure I touched the climate controls. OH - for a pusher newb - are jake brakes standard? Those were insanely nice on moving vans.
Speaking of timing belts - how common on Class A engines are belts vs chains? I have no fewer than 2 cars with timing chains which are far more reliable and long-term to service than standard belts (even on a high performance 350Z - which is insanely reliable). You'd 'think' they'd be more common on pushers - but I honestly have no idea.
I'm not really sure about the timing belts, I would ask in www.irv2.com
I think your statements regarding 500,000-1,000,000 miles on a diesel isn’t realistic. Sure Semi Trucks may see that but they are constantly running and at operating temperatures most of the time. They don’t sit around like RVs do . They achieve those miles quickly while RVs may never see those miles a or anything near it it 20 years yet all the seals, rubber bushings etc are 20 years old and weathered.
@@TomBTerrific oh the maintenance is FAR more for something that sits (depending where of course). No question there. But with annual maintenance (which is a significant factor with 45 foot pushers) 1m miles is common on many platforms particularly those using Prevosts as a starting point - because that's a BUS. Those have MORE than 1m miles on them commonly.
Don't forget that Super Cs are using the same Semi Truck configurations as ... Semis. Same thing - different cargo. (HUGE towing capacity).
One question - when you bought your last class A - did you have it inspected by a RV inspector? The reason I ask is because I wanted to know if the de- lamination was caught at that time or missed? Thanks for the help
Yes and no. I had it looked at for mechanical systems mostly and I'm not sure it was present when we first purchased it. All the other factors would not have prevented us from buying the coach even wit delamination. Our friend bought a Tiffin Bus had it inspected as well as an oil sample everything checked good and within a month or so had a cracked block and needed an engine replacement
Monaco was bought about out in 2009
Still a great coach
I will be looking for a country coach or holiday rambler 2004-2008
Can't go wrong with those, we loved our Country Coach
I am looking at an old 1973-78 GMC and 2000-2009 Class A's Just using for a weekend coach so not sure if i would benefit from diesel so sticking to gas may be better.. still researching
You will probably want to go diesel just for main purpose of the quality of everything put into the rv
Anything 1995 and below have the best motors
Whats your opinion on 2001 foretravel u320
M11 engine 36 foot one slide any issues with these i should be aware of
Cheers Oliver
First off I love Foretravels. I think they make a excellent product although there are some quirks with them, I would go over to the foreforums.com and join and ask those guys. I have the Nimbus model which is after that series. Although I did do a video on a u320. If you search through my channel you'll see and a great example of one ruclips.net/video/ut8OVl7HS3E/видео.html
What about the diesel ones built on the Cascadia? Chassie, I drove a Cascadia semi truck and it never got hot in there.
I haven't seen any of those so I can't comment.
thank you
You're welcome
that's good information guys. My friends I was looking at a 94 Tiffin Allegro diesel vs 94 Newmar kountry star gas. Which sounds better to you folks?
That's a tough question. If all things were equal in quality and maintenance between the two, I would go with the diesel providing you have the funds available to maintain a diesel
First of your videos, how do you like the Foretravel? Do ya come to East Texas for Maintance ?
Yes we make an annual trip to Texas for servuv
$50k - $150k budget?
How about $20k, is it possible to get a decent older one at this price?
Not in my opinion. Diesels are expensive to operate and you should budget at least 5k year for maint.
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Thanks for the reply. Looks like I have quite the task ahead of me.
They are out there....i got a HMC Hawk 35' DP that has had a very good life, stored indoors, two previous owners that took meticulous care of it with all maintenance and many upgrades with all documentations for way less than $20k....even has new tires, new brakes, and new batteries.
thinking of purchasing a 97 golfstream deisel pusher do you know of any issues with this particular model?
You need to go to the forums on itv2.com and ask.
Newmar
I wasn't wanting to get to air brakes diesel because it requires an extra license in Canada. Is it really that big a deal? I was looking at a 94 tiffin Allegro. Good bad?
I'm assuming on allegro gas model. Most of the diesels have air brakes. It's hard to say it's going to be based on the condition and how well it was maintained might be worth hiring an inspector
@@RVIntoRetirement it is diesel
You still having fun ? 😎
Oh yes!!!
@@RVIntoRetirement oh good 👍🏻
I am looking at a 2000 Holiday Rambler Endeavor ddw38 with 65 k on it is this a good coach anyone?
Ask on the IRV2.com forums
and thats why i said NO D.E.F
i wont buy past 2006 anyways
ill take an old tiffin
or Numar
Monaco
beaver
over this new crap anyday
2002 american tradition diesel pusher for the win lol
you are correct my friend.
I always wondered about that side mounted radiator. As I just bought my first used Monaco Knight. And when you open up the engine compartment. There is no engine. It is just a, big radiator. Blocking the entire engine.. And I asked. How do you get to the engine? It's from the bedroom closet. On the floor.
So that's a word to the wise. Do not stow a lot of garbage on the floor. In the bedroom closet. Because you might have to open the, access panel. In the bedroom closet. But I came out of the closet years ago. So I shall get a, RV maintenance technician. Who is still in the closet. To fix what I need.
Yes and so the radiator would make a little more sense. Mounted on the side of the vehicle. But… What the hell? I really don't care. I'm not going to be doing the servicing. Somebody else will. It will just cost me more. That I cannot afford. But I will deal with that. When the time comes. As until then. I will drive very gently. I'm not in a hurry anywhere. That's what's great about retirement. Not in a hurry, anywhere.
I will be starting a new phase of my life for the next couple of days. Wow. I actually made it. So money of my friends and loved ones are already passed. They passed on far too young. It's not fair. I was so in love with my husband for 22 years. That wasn't what I wanted that wasn't what he wanted. We looked forward to our retirement together. We had accomplished, so much together. And then he's taken from me. There is no God. There is just today.
I don't know how many more to days I have left.
RemyRAD
Very good info, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!