I figured out why the first layer got weird in the corner, because of the nozzle crash that 1 corner needed adjusting again as it drooped down. My bad!
I haven't had any issues with my bearings yet, it's been rock solid, but I'll definitely have to keep an eye on it. Only issue I've been having is related to wireless, I connected it to wifi but it's had issues connecting to Orca slicer or Qidi Studio wirelessly, I'm working with Qidi on that though. I've been using the USB until i can sort that out. Outside the wireless issue its been amazing so far, I am a bit bummed it's not a full 305x305, buts it's not that big of a deal, and I'm very happy with the printer otherwise. I was going to get a P1S before this, but I'm still glad I got rhe Plus 4
Really appreciate your continued work and insights! It's a shame there is a design oversight like this on a printer that is SO CLOSE to being really ideal for the money. Don't get me wrong, mine is printing great and I think the printer is still worth it, but I hope Qidi makes a few small revisions to make it that much more problem free. I mentioned in another comment, but as I understand it you actually can force a larger print area. However you'll have to manually configure it and still mind the exclusion zones. Printing a full build plate perfect square isn't possible though. They probably could have made the printhead a little smaller! Hahaha. I also really appreciate that you don't blame the machine for every printing issue and recognize that the filament and settings contribute to appearance. PETG-CF really is a cheat code of sorts. Overall solid results though. Thanks again!
I had the same issue with my X-plus 3 But there is no screw and glue to clamp the bearings. They are only clamped by the two plastics halves. And they did wear in. But after a bit back and forward with the service they did provide me with two new plastic half that clamp down on the bearing. Also installed it with some extra glue to prevent it from vibrating and wearing in again.
Probably because of wear, bushing don't just wear out much faster than bearings buy, they also wear out the rods. Bearings can be smoother too, the only benefit to bushings I can see is they're a little lighter and cheaper.
Thank you for the great update video. I appreciate all your testing and detail. I also appreciate when a reviewer indicates "needs tuning", does the tuning, then shows how the tuning worked out. Nice when a reviewer takes the time to figure a solution to a manufacturers issue, and finds a workable solution! I think Qidi should send you a gift for all of your work. I know they gave you printer, but you went beyond just testing.. Kudos to you.
@DK-vx1zc Gifts are not necessary 😆 you subscribing is (JK) Filament tuning is highly underrated these days but the petg is just night and day right. Thanks for the love ✌️
Thanks for the updates! really appreciate your work. Would be interesting to know if everyone with the issues is in EU (maybe a specific batch) or global. Either way, think i will likely wait a little bit longer. I dont mind the cut outs in the corners, but that should be stated as that can have an effect for people. It is probably a sacrifice/trade off made for trying to get a builder print volume in a smaller body. I think its worth while to do so,, just needs to be pointed out. At least they are on opposite corners so if you need to print 45° to maximize the build size, you still can in one orientation.
@willofthemaker Time will tell, it looks like they where planning to use 2 ball bearings and changed it up as the tooling on the inside looks like it's for the top bearing. I'm speculating now but no denying that it's poorly designed with an even worse workaround. I agree on your take of the exclusion zones.
Its not about a problem being found, its how they respond that matters, and even mentioning that only one person had trouble tells me volumes. It doesn't matter if only 1 person is having an issue or 1000, they owe each individual a fix, regardless of how many people are reporting it. I was going to pick up this printer based on all the positive reviews, but now I am going to wait and see how things go for a few months and then decide which printer to buy.
I have a qidi Max3 printer only about 3 month's old making rubbing sounds not all the time but sometimes and im seeing a kinda rubbing on the bar build up. I did put some 3 in 1 oil on it when it first started making the rubbing sound. it helped but slowly coming back.
I was debating whether to continue waiting to see what Bambu Lab's next printer would be or to take the plunge and purchase this Plus 4. I think I'll wait. I'm not comfortable with Qidi claiming this is an isolated issue because, given the nature of the problem, it's impossible for it to be isolated. A faulty motor or damaged cable could be an isolated problem, but not a lack of glue or its quality. Bambu Lab had an issue with the A1 at launch, and they took responsibility for it. In fact, it's this approach that convinced me to buy one of their printers.
I too was looking the Plus 4 vs. waiting......The issues in this video (thanks Will) should not be happening (quality control/testing issues). I think we'll see more 3D printer offerings in the near future with similar features with better quality. Formnext 2024 is coming... Bambu announcement? Others likley as well....
@freedomofmotion hmmmm... eu should have plenty of stock, not sure for the rest. I wonder how they fix that when it's shipped so maybe worth checking in why it's taking so long.
I don't have my unit yet, but it'll be here Wednesday. Is there a type of spring that you have in mind? It's my first 3D printer, but I'm a tinkerer, and I love figuring out solutions to fix and improve things.
@@Decimus-Magnus Just one from a clothes peg would probably be fine but you will need washers for sure. Basically any spring that is smaller diameter than the head of the bolt but larger than the threads would be fine 😁
@@JohnDoe-ot5ir together with the 2 bolts recommended by qidi. I just added the silicone to fill the void IF those bolts get loose for the reasons explained
Why are printer manufacturers never transparent about the real build size? .. 305x305 is not the size.. Why advertise it as such then? .. FLsun did the same trick with their new printers. This in combination with loose bearings; i think i'll stick with Bambu for now.
@802Garage Not in the qidi studio, i originally imported a 305x305 square and it started complaining about those zones so i adjusted until it fitted. The measurements i gave are the maximum XY according to the slicer. Right now i really need this thing to start spitting plastic for a project so feel free to try it out and get back to me if these are unnecessary boundaries. It could be that they need to update the slicer but at that point i will pass it on directly.
@@NoizieWorks imo its a bit scummy to tell buyers it can print 305x305 when in reality it can only print 298x288. if you advertise it as 305x305 just fckn add extra way for the nozzle cleaning and filament cutter.
I figured out why the first layer got weird in the corner, because of the nozzle crash that 1 corner needed adjusting again as it drooped down. My bad!
I haven't had any issues with my bearings yet, it's been rock solid, but I'll definitely have to keep an eye on it. Only issue I've been having is related to wireless, I connected it to wifi but it's had issues connecting to Orca slicer or Qidi Studio wirelessly, I'm working with Qidi on that though. I've been using the USB until i can sort that out.
Outside the wireless issue its been amazing so far, I am a bit bummed it's not a full 305x305, buts it's not that big of a deal, and I'm very happy with the printer otherwise. I was going to get a P1S before this, but I'm still glad I got rhe Plus 4
Really appreciate your continued work and insights! It's a shame there is a design oversight like this on a printer that is SO CLOSE to being really ideal for the money. Don't get me wrong, mine is printing great and I think the printer is still worth it, but I hope Qidi makes a few small revisions to make it that much more problem free. I mentioned in another comment, but as I understand it you actually can force a larger print area. However you'll have to manually configure it and still mind the exclusion zones. Printing a full build plate perfect square isn't possible though. They probably could have made the printhead a little smaller! Hahaha. I also really appreciate that you don't blame the machine for every printing issue and recognize that the filament and settings contribute to appearance. PETG-CF really is a cheat code of sorts. Overall solid results though. Thanks again!
In firmware 1.4 the filament does auto-cut when you initiate an extract command.
I had the same issue with my X-plus 3
But there is no screw and glue to clamp the bearings. They are only clamped by the two plastics halves. And they did wear in.
But after a bit back and forward with the service they did provide me with two new plastic half that clamp down on the bearing.
Also installed it with some extra glue to prevent it from vibrating and wearing in again.
I would say if Qidi fixes this in house for the next Lot., then i'll pick it up
Seeing bronze bushings instead of linear rod bearings is rather disappointing….
@Nowen97 top one is a bearing and not a bushing, interested to know why but i'm just a caveman running around with a stick to poke things
Probably because of wear, bushing don't just wear out much faster than bearings buy, they also wear out the rods. Bearings can be smoother too, the only benefit to bushings I can see is they're a little lighter and cheaper.
Thank you for the great update video. I appreciate all your testing and detail. I also appreciate when a reviewer indicates "needs tuning", does the tuning, then shows how the tuning worked out. Nice when a reviewer takes the time to figure a solution to a manufacturers issue, and finds a workable solution! I think Qidi should send you a gift for all of your work. I know they gave you printer, but you went beyond just testing.. Kudos to you.
@DK-vx1zc Gifts are not necessary 😆 you subscribing is (JK)
Filament tuning is highly underrated these days but the petg is just night and day right.
Thanks for the love ✌️
@@NoizieWorks Already subscribed
Thanks for the updates! really appreciate your work. Would be interesting to know if everyone with the issues is in EU (maybe a specific batch) or global. Either way, think i will likely wait a little bit longer.
I dont mind the cut outs in the corners, but that should be stated as that can have an effect for people. It is probably a sacrifice/trade off made for trying to get a builder print volume in a smaller body. I think its worth while to do so,, just needs to be pointed out. At least they are on opposite corners so if you need to print 45° to maximize the build size, you still can in one orientation.
@willofthemaker Time will tell, it looks like they where planning to use 2 ball bearings and changed it up as the tooling on the inside looks like it's for the top bearing.
I'm speculating now but no denying that it's poorly designed with an even worse workaround.
I agree on your take of the exclusion zones.
Its not about a problem being found, its how they respond that matters, and even mentioning that only one person had trouble tells me volumes. It doesn't matter if only 1 person is having an issue or 1000, they owe each individual a fix, regardless of how many people are reporting it. I was going to pick up this printer based on all the positive reviews, but now I am going to wait and see how things go for a few months and then decide which printer to buy.
I am not byass I own a p1s a1 mini qudi q1 pro and elgoo neptune 4 pro and just ordered a.plus 4. Just depends on what your printing
@@THEMANCAVE2023 That's the right mindset!
I have a qidi Max3 printer only about 3 month's old making rubbing sounds not all the time but sometimes and im seeing a kinda rubbing on the bar build up. I did put some 3 in 1 oil on it when it first started making the rubbing sound. it helped but slowly coming back.
I was debating whether to continue waiting to see what Bambu Lab's next printer would be or to take the plunge and purchase this Plus 4. I think I'll wait. I'm not comfortable with Qidi claiming this is an isolated issue because, given the nature of the problem, it's impossible for it to be isolated. A faulty motor or damaged cable could be an isolated problem, but not a lack of glue or its quality. Bambu Lab had an issue with the A1 at launch, and they took responsibility for it. In fact, it's this approach that convinced me to buy one of their printers.
@trobinou47 Completely agree, owning the problem and actively correcting it should be the standard for all brands.
I too was looking the Plus 4 vs. waiting......The issues in this video (thanks Will) should not be happening (quality control/testing issues). I think we'll see more 3D printer offerings in the near future with similar features with better quality. Formnext 2024 is coming... Bambu announcement? Others likley as well....
Its Q4 now so waiting any day for flashforge to announce what their larger printer will be. Then I’ll decide
Wow, they couldn't use a linear bearing on the bottom like they did on top.
Also, perhaps qidi are doing a bit of fixing before shipping, my printer has not been shipped yet. It's been 1 week I think.
@freedomofmotion hmmmm... eu should have plenty of stock, not sure for the rest.
I wonder how they fix that when it's shipped so maybe worth checking in why it's taking so long.
@@NoizieWorks I'm in the EU ( UK) I've just sent an email today about it.
If they do have enough explanation I'll share it here.
What type of silicone glue did you use?
The high temp kind, doesn't matter what brand. I picked the cheapest one
@@NoizieWorks thanks
If you add a spring between the head of the bolt and the clamshell the tension from the spring should stop it from vibrating loose.
@@freedomofmotion Many options on how to fix it for sure.
I don't have my unit yet, but it'll be here Wednesday. Is there a type of spring that you have in mind?
It's my first 3D printer, but I'm a tinkerer, and I love figuring out solutions to fix and improve things.
@@Decimus-Magnus Just one from a clothes peg would probably be fine but you will need washers for sure.
Basically any spring that is smaller diameter than the head of the bolt but larger than the threads would be fine 😁
The only concern i have is the plastic you turn the screw in. It's not threaded or has a brass insert to reinforce so be careful.
@@NoizieWorks Wow that's such a janky official fix from qidi then 🤣
so a high temp silicon glue is the fix?
@@JohnDoe-ot5ir together with the 2 bolts recommended by qidi. I just added the silicone to fill the void IF those bolts get loose for the reasons explained
@NoizieWorks ok thanks. My plus4 arrives today.
@@JohnDoe-ot5ir Hope you have a great time!
@NoizieWorks I currently have a p1s and x1c and still excited for the plus 4.
Why are printer manufacturers never transparent about the real build size? .. 305x305 is not the size.. Why advertise it as such then? .. FLsun did the same trick with their new printers. This in combination with loose bearings; i think i'll stick with Bambu for now.
@@HuskyRides I don't get it either
Because of the cutter, bambu p1s/x1c has a larger unprintable area in the left front that can't print 256*256, did you really use bambu？
Technically it can print 310x310 with a few small exclusion zones is my understanding.
@802Garage Not in the qidi studio, i originally imported a 305x305 square and it started complaining about those zones so i adjusted until it fitted.
The measurements i gave are the maximum XY according to the slicer.
Right now i really need this thing to start spitting plastic for a project so feel free to try it out and get back to me if these are unnecessary boundaries.
It could be that they need to update the slicer but at that point i will pass it on directly.
@@NoizieWorks imo its a bit scummy to tell buyers it can print 305x305 when in reality it can only print 298x288. if you advertise it as 305x305 just fckn add extra way for the nozzle cleaning and filament cutter.