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About the headphones issue, I don't think over the ears headphones should be allowed. It makes hearing your cardmates more difficult. I think earbuds are okay if used in one ear. I've played with cardmates who have used over the ear headphones or earbuds in both ears and at times someone on the card had to physically tap the person to get their attention. The bone induction type of headphones are also a good option.
Headphones should stay allowed. I don’t think it really interferes with anything. I’ve played amateur tournaments where I’ve used them because my card was excessively chatty with each other and that was more inconsiderate than me putting in an airpod
Stop saying, “One-time World Champion”. He’s a World Champion until he is a 2X+ World Champion. Was really disappointing to hear them introduce him like that right when he won. To say “1X” is a comparison to others, when it shouldn’t be. Don’t downplay the man. He’s a World Champion. Respect it.
Canada may now be 5th or 6th with all the forest fires this summer. We've had constant smoke haze this year sometimes where it was hazardous to go outside. I masked up to play disc golf.
I like over the ear headphones as the inside of my ear doesn't get so sweaty. I live in central florida, so it's pretty much year-round. As far as headphones on the course, I don't like the distraction of noise or music myself, but if someone wants to wear something like that, I'd suggest just a single ear, so the other is available to hear your surroundings, such as "fore!" and the like. I think I've seen players wear a single air pod before, probably for that reason. Just my thoughts.
I vote no to headphones during tournament play. It can be considered an advantage bc it helps calm players from an external source. Plus it just seems a little rude to your card mates. Also, need to be able to hear card mates or commands from TDs or even “fore” from a close flying disc.
Of course, there goes the dramatic ones. How would they be able to hear a meteor coming? What if they take a disc to the dome bc they didn’t hear fore? We aren’t talking about being deaf. We’re just talking about not letting headphones on the course during tournament play. I’ll tap someone on the shoulder if they need help from a disability, but not tap them on the shoulder bc they don’t want to hear anyone else on the course. It’s golf, not an athletic noise venue.
These comments on headphones are hilarious. Someone even said they were "absolutely appalled" by Aiden wearing them. Imagine how that person reacts to something that actually matters. Derek and Karen need to go smoke a joint and rethink their lives. 😂
wearing headphones doesn’t effect other players, doesn’t provide an unfair advantage, would never be banned as attire outside a comp. very weird thing to be upset about
@@PpRZman What exactly do you think he's joking about? What part of his statement are you countering? Or are you just disagreeing for the sake of argument?
About headphones… disc golf is a non-contact sport. This eliminates any chance of injury from the headphones to say they should be disallowed. Headphones keep the noise contained to the individual wearing them, eliminating disruption to others. With zero risk and zero hinderance, players should be allowed to wear headphones during tournament play. What is the argument for banning them?
What is going on with the droning tones from the drone? I haven't heard this on coverage... If I had to listen to that during an entire round, I would be wearing headphones the second I hit the tee.... awful...
Yeah that was about as dumb of a comment as they come.. comparing a team sport where you need to yell at each other to make plays happen to a singular person just playing a course 1v1.. yeah that makes a lot of sense
I've always thought people with earbuds in look obnoxious, and it shouldn't be allowed during sanctioned events. Full headphones even worse. Situational awareness and the ability to clearly hear is important.
Anyone who's been paying attention knows that a lot of MPO and FBO players already wear them. They're just little air pods so you don't really notice. In a solo sport like this and that helps a player focus whatever there should be no rule against it. They're definitely shouldn't be active drones in the air though during competition which I couldn't help but hear on hole two. I'd wear headphones too if they were going to be
Headphones - I'm pretty sure they're being used to block out distracting noises, including talking away from your card. I think it's genius, Aiden probably only uses them for putting. Some of my worst rounds have been tournament rounds because of the slow pace of play and distractions. If you have trouble concentrating, headphones can help a ton.
I have ADHD and having headphones is a game changer. I don’t need everyone to be as quiet as i normally would. It’s a form of self agency that has brought more harmony for me on the course. Admittedly over the ear does look quite odd though, especially on a tour event. ,
I don’t have a problem with the headphones. It’s an individual sport not a team sport where you need to communicate with teammates, if it helps you keep your head straight I have no problem with it.
I don't think headphones should be prohibited, but I do think that it's a very tacky look, regardless of what headphones a player is wearing. Feels disrespectful to the game and his card mates, but that's just my opinion. Let people wear them if they want to, but in a professional setting, there should be some more awareness.
Nate Perkins is awesome… great commentator and seems to love the game immensely…as to his question about headphones..I just think when someone wears them, they seem to be saying that they aren’t really interested in the others on their card…cmon..live life.. leave the noise and distractions behind.. enjoy nature and your card mates I’d love it if the pdga banned headphones but I’m ok with players wearing them..as it increases my interest in watching the round hoping they struggle..lol
Yes on the ear plugs. It’s not basketball and they don’t need to communicate other than to collaborate on rules or who’s turn. The difference between discgolf and traditional golf is that the distances are so great in traditional golf you don’t have to listen to the other players comments. Yes on the ear plugs or mouth plugs for the energy vampires 😝
its funny how the over-ear headphones seem like a worse offense than AirPods even though it is the same advantage. Lots of FPO players wear AirPods during the entire round. Seems rude to fellow cardmates if you ask me.
They don't use drones in coverage. It's all hand-held or tripod/monopod mounted cameras. I've heard that drones are not allowed for actual play coverage due to the sound and concern with the drone hitting a disc or disc hitting the drone and affecting play. Drone coverage is only used to show the hole layout and is done before play ever begins.
Dang....I apologize. I had heard drones aren't allowed for coverage, but i did just hear the commentator say Scott looked like he was trying to knock the drone out of the sky. Maybe it is different for Silver Series.....I also gotta say that none of the views I've seen looked like they were drone shots.
@@BillFromAZ it definitely did not look like drone shots, but this is the first coverage I've ever watched where I could here them buzzing around. And also the first time I recall the announcers mentioning them. I don't think they should be allowed at all.
@user-fe6ki8bi3v I agree they should not be allowed. It's bad enough that only the lead and, sometimes, chase card have to deal with all the cameras and camera folks being a distraction that other players don't have to deal with. But drones? That would be really annoying and an unfair distraction for the lead and chase cards.
Hey guys just a thought, on hole three. Maybe push the pin out longer past that tree, kind of make it somewhat of an island OB, or just a square style OB. And just make the par 4. So laying up at the mouth of the opening going down to maybe get that bird. Or possibly some guys try to throw big and try to land all the way at the bottom of the hill in the island for the eagle. I do apologize guys, I'm driving so hopefully that sounded right.
I read from a few comments that headphones are ‘disrespectful to card mates’. Can someone explain why it’s disrespectful? Does everyone have to talk to everyone? Some people are shy or introverts and want to keep to themselves or are tuning out the loud guy who can’t tell that he’s annoying as shit. If this is an advantage, everyone would be doing it so it’s purely a comfort thing for some, a complete non issue for my money.
I think the headphones are doing nothing but noise cancelling. Only listening to music while you're putting would be SO offsetting, going in and out of different vibes. I don't see a problem with shutting out distractions while putting, as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to communicate with your card mates (as stated in the official rules). Are there more elegant solutions for shutting out distractions on the putting green? Absolutely. In-ears are more discrete, but they can do the exact same job as over-ear, so the discussion should really be about, wether you gain an unfair advantage by using noise-cancelling technology or not (plugs or buds alike). And if so, what about devices such as the range finder? Or even a mobile phone that's connected to the internet? I'm on the non-restrictive side of the argument. The nature of the sport is such that, a lot of noise is being made on courses when there's tournament play, you can only do so much to restrict the audience and players on other nearby holes. So it's reasonable to say that the more noise sensitive players, are at a disadvantage without the help of technology like this.
The headphones will go the moment the TD realises if you shout to a player that a branch (or a whole tree in the previous round of this tournament) is about to hit them on the head and he doesn't hear it.......
@@markt.4736 It's risk vs avoidable risk. I have no preference either way tbf, but should it ever happen and their insurers find out the competitor was wearing headphones, good luck. That's the world we live in.
If we ever want professional disc golf to get the recognition it deserves, headphones definitely have to be banned. Looks super goofy and unprofessional. A professional athlete, especially in a golf sport, should be able to focus on their performance despite his or her environment.
Keep the head phones. He obviously has them turned to a decent level so he could hear the chains so he knows when his card mate stops putting so he can walk again. Another reason im pro headphones is cause i don't know how to tell people on my cards that i don't want to talk or to tell them to shut up while im trying to take my shot its easily to just be the ass hole that wears headphones.
In a individual sport like disc golf headphones should be allowed. Comparison to team sports where you need to hear your team mates it would be just distraction to the team. Let's say if you are deaf person you probably can't play in NBA or NFL.. But definitely could play disc golf as a pro. Would it be a benefit to be a deaf person in disc golf?
Headphones are fine, so long as you are able to hear and clearly communicate with your cardmates. Scott's headphones are ridiculous if wearing them outside of just his putting routine though
...and no. NO headphones. I don't like seeing these guys with 'em. It is a bad look, in my opinion. It is like a giant middle finger to the rest of the card and competitors. The same goes for earbuds, etc. C'mon, take off the training wheels.
As long as they are still aware of everything around them and coherent with the round and whats going on, there is no issue with someone wearing headphones whatsoever other than your own personal biased opinions.
While I understand why you think it shouldn't be allowed to play with headphones, I don't think it's a big deal. Lebron can't play with headphones because his sport besides being a team sport and needing to hear your teammates, they could also interfere with plays and cause an injury to other players. Disc golf is a solo sport, and just like your shoes or clothes, you pick whatever is comfortable for you as long as you are not affecting anyone else. But that's just my opinion, I can't play with headphones nor earbuds, its uncomfortable to me.
I understand your arguement but I don’t really see the point in it. Also a cap screens you from having the sun in your eyes when putting - that’s also an aid. Can’t see the difference tbh.
Music all day (headphones, earbuds, speaker, etc.) for casual rounds. I think for tournament competition it shouldn't be allowed, if DG wants to be seen as a true professional sport. I can't think of any other type of pro or high-level amateur competition where headphones are allowed, even for individual events. If I'm wrong, please correct me. Interesting issue.
Headphones arent bothering anyone. But for events, I think, they should be prohibited. Mental focus and concentration are key to any sport and the competitors need to have it without requiring the headphones.
Headphones/earbuds don't bother me. What's the problem, other than it doesn't allow fans to distract the player? (And I find the attempt at a comparison to Lebron using them meaningless. He's playing a team sport; he needs to hear his team mates. A disc golfer doesn't.) I am curious to hear you expand on why they bother you? And most importantly, thanks for another great video!
its a solo sport so headphones should be fine as long as the players arent using them to ignore cardmate and officials. Lebron comparison was bad since basketball is a team sport
Wearing over the ear headphones in an official tournament shouldn't be allowed. It's also just rude and makes you look like you ride the short bus. If you can't focus through a little crowd noise or distractions then go play chess.
The headphones conversation is the stupidest one. Yes of course they should be allowed. It's an individual sport. Imagine a runner wearing headphones while they run oh dang. Super dumb That people would want to limit the players enjoyment.
I don't see why headphones would be an issue. Comparing it to basketball is kind of weird though. Basketball requires constant attention to other players and people including your own team. This does not. Headphones doesn't effect any other rules of throwing and such so it doesn't seem like a big deal.
I dont think it is an issue with hearing. For other sports that don't allow it, a bid reason is so you don't have someone outside talking in your ear. I don't think disc golf is at a point that needs to worry about that yet.
@CentralCoastDiscGolf If you want the public to take Disc Golf seroiusly as a legitimate professional sport, the answer is NO on headphones. Period. You don't see the pros in the PGA being televised wearing headphones when they are driving or putting.
If you can't focus without headphones, theres an underlying issue going on. (Which there may be.. not hating) I don't see the issue though, especially if hes anti-social. May even have a grudge against a fellow cardmate. Can we talk about the real sin? Sunglasses at a POKER TABLE.
I also think headphones shouldn't be allowed, in-ear or over-ear. I get the Lebron James analogy but it doesn't really work because basketball is a team sport, so headphones would hinder him. I come from a weightlifting and powerlifting background and you can listen to music before you go out on the platform to lift, but as soon as you step out from behind the curtain the headphones have to go. I also think that it's a little disrespectful to your cardmates, you're not there alone and headphones are there to block people out
The comparison of headphones in basketball and disc golf is a nonsensical one. Of course those playing a team sport where communication is key, shouldn't be wearing them. As long as disc golfers are still able to communicate with their card mates while wearing headphones, I don't see them as an issue in disc golf.
I think headphones, even the in-ear buds are unprofessional. Part of what separates the pros from ams is the mental fortitude to tune things out and focus on your game. In a small sense, it feels like cheating. As another commenter posted, when you’re physically tuning out your card mates with earphones that’s a pretty lame thing to do. It can also be dangerous. If you’re worried about PDGA rules, play casual however you’d like.
Way to be able-ist @derekschauer2045 . Many people, even pro athletes, are sensory sensitive -- ie. adhd'ers or autistic -- and their brains can't tune out or filter out noise and distractions as easily as others. That doesn't make them less skilled at the game. And if headphones actually gave players a significant advantage, then why wouldn't all players use them? When you play, do you try to distract your card-mates while they're putting? Is that why you resent others being allowed to tune out distractions? What about the universally practiced courtesy of staying out of another player's line of sight while they throw/putt? By your logic, should pros also have the "mental fortitude" to ignore someone standing right behind the basket? Also, why do you think the "golf clap" even exists? Think you might want check your preconceptions about professionalism...
If we want our sport to be taken seriously, no headphones should be allowed. At least it should be forbidden at tournaments. This full on head-set is just rude towards the rest of the card.
All headphones should be banned from competition. Part of being a pro should be learning to handle pressure from the environment, and personally I think wearing headphones is a lame way to bypass that.
Are you suggesting that players should not be allowed to listen to music? If they can listen to music, what right do we have to say that ear plugs are okay but earphones aren’t?
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That side arm pitch out from Andrew Fish on hole 8 was just a thing of beauty
About the headphones issue, I don't think over the ears headphones should be allowed. It makes hearing your cardmates more difficult. I think earbuds are okay if used in one ear. I've played with cardmates who have used over the ear headphones or earbuds in both ears and at times someone on the card had to physically tap the person to get their attention. The bone induction type of headphones are also a good option.
Headphones should stay allowed. I don’t think it really interferes with anything. I’ve played amateur tournaments where I’ve used them because my card was excessively chatty with each other and that was more inconsiderate than me putting in an airpod
Me! I'm excessively chatty!
It just looks very cringe
Stop saying, “One-time World Champion”. He’s a World Champion until he is a 2X+ World Champion. Was really disappointing to hear them introduce him like that right when he won. To say “1X” is a comparison to others, when it shouldn’t be. Don’t downplay the man. He’s a World Champion. Respect it.
Personally I don’t care about headphones. But damn, drone sounds like that would grind my gears. What the heck?!
The drone noise is all I hear just watching this. I can't even imagine playing with it.
@@joshuar4907 Like seriously, it is complete bs. I'd be wishing I had headphones too.
Basketball is a team sport. Also in the NBA when players are warming up by themselves, many wear headphones
warming up yes
Canada has the third largest forest in the world, Nate perks has the third largest collection of hair products
Canada may now be 5th or 6th with all the forest fires this summer. We've had constant smoke haze this year sometimes where it was hazardous to go outside. I masked up to play disc golf.
I like over the ear headphones as the inside of my ear doesn't get so sweaty. I live in central florida, so it's pretty much year-round. As far as headphones on the course, I don't like the distraction of noise or music myself, but if someone wants to wear something like that, I'd suggest just a single ear, so the other is available to hear your surroundings, such as "fore!" and the like. I think I've seen players wear a single air pod before, probably for that reason. Just my thoughts.
I vote no to headphones during tournament play. It can be considered an advantage bc it helps calm players from an external source. Plus it just seems a little rude to your card mates. Also, need to be able to hear card mates or commands from TDs or even “fore” from a close flying disc.
then the deaf shouldn't be allowed to play then?
@@stefans9530 Are you saying that def players are forced or need to wear headphones???
Of course, there goes the dramatic ones. How would they be able to hear a meteor coming? What if they take a disc to the dome bc they didn’t hear fore? We aren’t talking about being deaf. We’re just talking about not letting headphones on the course during tournament play. I’ll tap someone on the shoulder if they need help from a disability, but not tap them on the shoulder bc they don’t want to hear anyone else on the course. It’s golf, not an athletic noise venue.
These comments on headphones are hilarious. Someone even said they were "absolutely appalled" by Aiden wearing them. Imagine how that person reacts to something that actually matters. Derek and Karen need to go smoke a joint and rethink their lives. 😂
Woah, fuck off with that derek b.s. I'm a very apathetic and depressed person who never bitches. Aaron and Karen
headphones are fine. please don't turn this into PGA rules. please keep the low key vibe with disc golf. it's why i love it!
Yea next they will say they can't wear shorts. Ridiculous
Disagree. This isn't a videogame competition
wearing headphones doesn’t effect other players, doesn’t provide an unfair advantage, would never be banned as attire outside a comp. very weird thing to be upset about
@@jackvandeusen6216 You're joking right?
@@PpRZman What exactly do you think he's joking about? What part of his statement are you countering? Or are you just disagreeing for the sake of argument?
Why do most of these silver series courses look way more interesting than the Elite series ones?
Right?
Yes. The cascade challenge earlier in the year looked surreal.
I 100% DO think headphones should be allowed. With so many people having sensory issues and being on the spectrum, I believe it helps!
About headphones… disc golf is a non-contact sport. This eliminates any chance of injury from the headphones to say they should be disallowed. Headphones keep the noise contained to the individual wearing them, eliminating disruption to others. With zero risk and zero hinderance, players should be allowed to wear headphones during tournament play.
What is the argument for banning them?
No headphones
6:13 yes, of course - they already wear earbuds. Lebron is playing an interactive game - no comparison.
What is going on with the droning tones from the drone? I haven't heard this on coverage... If I had to listen to that during an entire round, I would be wearing headphones the second I hit the tee.... awful...
A ramp, berm, or even a curb would launch the rollers into the air, cool to see one start to fly again, especially down hill
I usually agree with nates takes 99% of the time. but comparing a team sport like basketball and disc golf because of headphones is ridiculous.
😆 exactly
Yeah makes 0 sense. I think it shouldnt matter in disc golf. Whats the edge? It looks more annoying than anything.
Yeah that was about as dumb of a comment as they come.. comparing a team sport where you need to yell at each other to make plays happen to a singular person just playing a course 1v1.. yeah that makes a lot of sense
@@mateogalvanI think it looks dumb
Do you look dumb. Yes. Does it matter no. Wear them if you think it’s such an advantage or na.
I think ear buds are alright but should be only one. Over the head headphones are just too much, at least for sanctioned events.
Anything different scares me
thanks for the coverage.
Do you have someone new and less experienced on the catch-cam? Seems like they missed quite a few of the approach shots.
Yes headphones in a physical sport wouldn't work. I get the professionalism of not allowing them, but also personally it doesn't bother me.
My kid brother have music in the one ear, everytime we play, I find it a bit disrespectfull, cours his not there 100%
I think headphones are fine if you can also hear warnings and questions like, 'Score on that hole?'
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Hole 5 is 419 feel? Like why not 1 more foot? C’mon
Ikr,it's funny how many holes,on your,actually kist the footage as 420 ft !!! Like,right on 😎😎
I've always thought people with earbuds in look obnoxious, and it shouldn't be allowed during sanctioned events. Full headphones even worse.
Situational awareness and the ability to clearly hear is important.
Anyone who's been paying attention knows that a lot of MPO and FBO players already wear them. They're just little air pods so you don't really notice. In a solo sport like this and that helps a player focus whatever there should be no rule against it. They're definitely shouldn't be active drones in the air though during competition which I couldn't help but hear on hole two. I'd wear headphones too if they were going to be
The drones are for the live coverage
@@wgorham93 Even so, it's definitely distracting and takes away from the concentration aspect that many players ask for.
Headphones - I'm pretty sure they're being used to block out distracting noises, including talking away from your card. I think it's genius, Aiden probably only uses them for putting. Some of my worst rounds have been tournament rounds because of the slow pace of play and distractions. If you have trouble concentrating, headphones can help a ton.
I have ADHD and having headphones is a game changer. I don’t need everyone to be as quiet as i normally would. It’s a form of self agency that has brought more harmony for me on the course. Admittedly over the ear does look quite odd though, especially on a tour event.
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Headphones are unprofessional to be wearing especially one the size of earmuffs
I don’t have a problem with the headphones. It’s an individual sport not a team sport where you need to communicate with teammates, if it helps you keep your head straight I have no problem with it.
No headphones, no pacifiers, no emotional support animals, come on man you're supposed to be a professional.
i would say no to headphones on a professional level, but personally dont care
I don’t think the headphones should be allowed, it’s very unprofessional and quite cringe
I don't think headphones should be prohibited, but I do think that it's a very tacky look, regardless of what headphones a player is wearing. Feels disrespectful to the game and his card mates, but that's just my opinion. Let people wear them if they want to, but in a professional setting, there should be some more awareness.
Nate Perkins is awesome… great commentator and seems to love the game immensely…as to his question about headphones..I just think when someone wears them, they seem to be saying that they aren’t really interested in the others on their card…cmon..live life.. leave the noise and distractions behind.. enjoy nature and your card mates
I’d love it if the pdga banned headphones but I’m ok with players wearing them..as it increases my interest in watching the round hoping they struggle..lol
Yes on the ear plugs. It’s not basketball and they don’t need to communicate other than to collaborate on rules or who’s turn. The difference between discgolf and traditional golf is that the distances are so great in traditional golf you don’t have to listen to the other players comments. Yes on the ear plugs or mouth plugs for the energy vampires 😝
its funny how the over-ear headphones seem like a worse offense than AirPods even though it is the same advantage. Lots of FPO players wear AirPods during the entire round. Seems rude to fellow cardmates if you ask me.
no headphones - share the same environment with the field
While I don't really like the headphones and never wear them myself, I probably would if I had a drone buzzing over my head the full round.
They don't use drones in coverage. It's all hand-held or tripod/monopod mounted cameras. I've heard that drones are not allowed for actual play coverage due to the sound and concern with the drone hitting a disc or disc hitting the drone and affecting play. Drone coverage is only used to show the hole layout and is done before play ever begins.
Dang....I apologize. I had heard drones aren't allowed for coverage, but i did just hear the commentator say Scott looked like he was trying to knock the drone out of the sky. Maybe it is different for Silver Series.....I also gotta say that none of the views I've seen looked like they were drone shots.
@@BillFromAZ it definitely did not look like drone shots, but this is the first coverage I've ever watched where I could here them buzzing around. And also the first time I recall the announcers mentioning them. I don't think they should be allowed at all.
@user-fe6ki8bi3v I agree they should not be allowed. It's bad enough that only the lead and, sometimes, chase card have to deal with all the cameras and camera folks being a distraction that other players don't have to deal with. But drones? That would be really annoying and an unfair distraction for the lead and chase cards.
this course needs a lot more work. I hate when there isn't even a damn fairway to throw on
Why is Scott wearing headphones on the putt?
Just vibin
Maybe because of noise cancelling. Would be my guess.
Hey guys just a thought, on hole three. Maybe push the pin out longer past that tree, kind of make it somewhat of an island OB, or just a square style OB. And just make the par 4. So laying up at the mouth of the opening going down to maybe get that bird. Or possibly some guys try to throw big and try to land all the way at the bottom of the hill in the island for the eagle.
I do apologize guys, I'm driving so hopefully that sounded right.
Admitting to watching RUclips and commenting while driving a vehicle is crazy
I read from a few comments that headphones are ‘disrespectful to card mates’. Can someone explain why it’s disrespectful? Does everyone have to talk to everyone? Some people are shy or introverts and want to keep to themselves or are tuning out the loud guy who can’t tell that he’s annoying as shit. If this is an advantage, everyone would be doing it so it’s purely a comfort thing for some, a complete non issue for my money.
I think the headphones are doing nothing but noise cancelling. Only listening to music while you're putting would be SO offsetting, going in and out of different vibes. I don't see a problem with shutting out distractions while putting, as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to communicate with your card mates (as stated in the official rules).
Are there more elegant solutions for shutting out distractions on the putting green? Absolutely. In-ears are more discrete, but they can do the exact same job as over-ear, so the discussion should really be about, wether you gain an unfair advantage by using noise-cancelling technology or not (plugs or buds alike). And if so, what about devices such as the range finder? Or even a mobile phone that's connected to the internet? I'm on the non-restrictive side of the argument.
The nature of the sport is such that, a lot of noise is being made on courses when there's tournament play, you can only do so much to restrict the audience and players on other nearby holes. So it's reasonable to say that the more noise sensitive players, are at a disadvantage without the help of technology like this.
The headphones will go the moment the TD realises if you shout to a player that a branch (or a whole tree in the previous round of this tournament) is about to hit them on the head and he doesn't hear it.......
Deaf people are allowed to play. Makes this a non issue.
@@markt.4736 It's risk vs avoidable risk. I have no preference either way tbf, but should it ever happen and their insurers find out the competitor was wearing headphones, good luck. That's the world we live in.
If we ever want professional disc golf to get the recognition it deserves, headphones definitely have to be banned. Looks super goofy and unprofessional. A professional athlete, especially in a golf sport, should be able to focus on their performance despite his or her environment.
Well Said. 👍
Keep the head phones. He obviously has them turned to a decent level so he could hear the chains so he knows when his card mate stops putting so he can walk again. Another reason im pro headphones is cause i don't know how to tell people on my cards that i don't want to talk or to tell them to shut up while im trying to take my shot its easily to just be the ass hole that wears headphones.
In a individual sport like disc golf headphones should be allowed. Comparison to team sports where you need to hear your team mates it would be just distraction to the team. Let's say if you are deaf person you probably can't play in NBA or NFL.. But definitely could play disc golf as a pro. Would it be a benefit to be a deaf person in disc golf?
Headphones are fine, so long as you are able to hear and clearly communicate with your cardmates. Scott's headphones are ridiculous if wearing them outside of just his putting routine though
...and no. NO headphones. I don't like seeing these guys with 'em. It is a bad look, in my opinion. It is like a giant middle finger to the rest of the card and competitors. The same goes for earbuds, etc. C'mon, take off the training wheels.
🐟 🐠 🎣 🐡 FISH!
The camera work here is yikes.
They must've taken the B-team up to the island
Are headphones getting bigger or are idiots getting smaller?
😂
As long as they are still aware of everything around them and coherent with the round and whats going on, there is no issue with someone wearing headphones whatsoever other than your own personal biased opinions.
Headphones are fine but wearing over the ear headphones like Aiden had is a big dork move.
While I understand why you think it shouldn't be allowed to play with headphones, I don't think it's a big deal. Lebron can't play with headphones because his sport besides being a team sport and needing to hear your teammates, they could also interfere with plays and cause an injury to other players. Disc golf is a solo sport, and just like your shoes or clothes, you pick whatever is comfortable for you as long as you are not affecting anyone else. But that's just my opinion, I can't play with headphones nor earbuds, its uncomfortable to me.
I’ve seen other players in past coverage wearing earbuds.
No reason to ban headphones, I just think it's obvious that it doesn't look professional at a pro tour event.
We don't need unneeded rules. If it doesn't hurt, or hinder anyone, let it be. don't take the freedom out of the last sport that represents freedom.
Who cares if anyone has headphones on or not? If it helps them play their best so be it.
So do ped’s… where do you draw the line?? The headphones are definitely an aid
HAHAHAh what? Horrible comparison. @@hagenschwark8908
I understand your arguement but I don’t really see the point in it. Also a cap screens you from having the sun in your eyes when putting - that’s also an aid. Can’t see the difference tbh.
I dont see why headphones matter
Music all day (headphones, earbuds, speaker, etc.) for casual rounds. I think for tournament competition it shouldn't be allowed, if DG wants to be seen as a true professional sport. I can't think of any other type of pro or high-level amateur competition where headphones are allowed, even for individual events. If I'm wrong, please correct me. Interesting issue.
Jeez. U guys are gonna feel real dumb when Aiden drops that sick ass beat 💽🏢💽
Headphones arent bothering anyone. But for events, I think, they should be prohibited. Mental focus and concentration are key to any sport and the competitors need to have it without requiring the headphones.
aiden looks goofy as hell
oh yeah, let's do this - should players be allowed to have ballcaps? Or how about sunglasses? we need more regulation!
Handkerchiefs are the exception!
Headphones/earbuds don't bother me. What's the problem, other than it doesn't allow fans to distract the player? (And I find the attempt at a comparison to Lebron using them meaningless. He's playing a team sport; he needs to hear his team mates. A disc golfer doesn't.)
I am curious to hear you expand on why they bother you?
And most importantly, thanks for another great video!
headphones should, should, should be allowed
I personally don't like playing with a headphones guy on my card in a tournament round. But as a rule? Idk.
Why does it bother you?
Headphones during professional sports is ridiculous. Every time I see a player with them, it makes the sport look like a joke.
If thats all it takes, maybe its not the headphones :)
its a solo sport so headphones should be fine as long as the players arent using them to ignore cardmate and officials. Lebron comparison was bad since basketball is a team sport
Wearing over the ear headphones in an official tournament shouldn't be allowed. It's also just rude and makes you look like you ride the short bus. If you can't focus through a little crowd noise or distractions then go play chess.
It’s crazy the massive gap in camera and post production quality between this and jomez.
In what is better jomez?
It's not that massive. Graphics don't make that big of difference.
Indeed, Jomez has been going downhill for a long time and is no longer the industry standard
I think he should have to wear them while he’s on the tee pad.
Headphones are fine. And LeBron was a poor example. He plays on a team where communication is key.
The headphones conversation is the stupidest one. Yes of course they should be allowed. It's an individual sport. Imagine a runner wearing headphones while they run oh dang. Super dumb That people would want to limit the players enjoyment.
I don't see why headphones would be an issue. Comparing it to basketball is kind of weird though. Basketball requires constant attention to other players and people including your own team. This does not. Headphones doesn't effect any other rules of throwing and such so it doesn't seem like a big deal.
Headphones - definitely a no-go. Safety becomes a concern, as well as it just seems a bit undesirable to the viewer and card-mates.
I see no problems of players wearing headphones in disc golf. With AirPods you can usually still hear most noise around you.
I dont think it is an issue with hearing. For other sports that don't allow it, a bid reason is so you don't have someone outside talking in your ear. I don't think disc golf is at a point that needs to worry about that yet.
No headphones! You already have people holding quiet cards. And no other solo sport do you wear them
no headphones...annoying
If people on the card won't shut up then yes but if people are professional you shouldn't need em
@CentralCoastDiscGolf If you want the public to take Disc Golf seroiusly as a legitimate professional sport, the answer is NO on headphones. Period. You don't see the pros in the PGA being televised wearing headphones when they are driving or putting.
This isn't basketball. Let him wear headphones if he wants to.
Definitely no headphones!
If you can't focus without headphones, theres an underlying issue going on. (Which there may be.. not hating) I don't see the issue though, especially if hes anti-social. May even have a grudge against a fellow cardmate. Can we talk about the real sin? Sunglasses at a POKER TABLE.
I also think headphones shouldn't be allowed, in-ear or over-ear. I get the Lebron James analogy but it doesn't really work because basketball is a team sport, so headphones would hinder him. I come from a weightlifting and powerlifting background and you can listen to music before you go out on the platform to lift, but as soon as you step out from behind the curtain the headphones have to go. I also think that it's a little disrespectful to your cardmates, you're not there alone and headphones are there to block people out
The comparison of headphones in basketball and disc golf is a nonsensical one. Of course those playing a team sport where communication is key, shouldn't be wearing them. As long as disc golfers are still able to communicate with their card mates while wearing headphones, I don't see them as an issue in disc golf.
I find headphones take away the social aspect of the game.
I think headphones, even the in-ear buds are unprofessional. Part of what separates the pros from ams is the mental fortitude to tune things out and focus on your game. In a small sense, it feels like cheating. As another commenter posted, when you’re physically tuning out your card mates with earphones that’s a pretty lame thing to do. It can also be dangerous. If you’re worried about PDGA rules, play casual however you’d like.
Way to be able-ist @derekschauer2045 . Many people, even pro athletes, are sensory sensitive -- ie. adhd'ers or autistic -- and their brains can't tune out or filter out noise and distractions as easily as others. That doesn't make them less skilled at the game. And if headphones actually gave players a significant advantage, then why wouldn't all players use them? When you play, do you try to distract your card-mates while they're putting? Is that why you resent others being allowed to tune out distractions? What about the universally practiced courtesy of staying out of another player's line of sight while they throw/putt? By your logic, should pros also have the "mental fortitude" to ignore someone standing right behind the basket? Also, why do you think the "golf clap" even exists? Think you might want check your preconceptions about professionalism...
If it is not a contact sport, I think headphones are fine.
If we want our sport to be taken seriously, no headphones should be allowed. At least it should be forbidden at tournaments. This full on head-set is just rude towards the rest of the card.
Headphones during a competition? NO.
All headphones should be banned from competition. Part of being a pro should be learning to handle pressure from the environment, and personally I think wearing headphones is a lame way to bypass that.
it is an individual sport. they are just bigger earbuds. can a cyclist not listen to music?
Are you suggesting that players should not be allowed to listen to music? If they can listen to music, what right do we have to say that ear plugs are okay but earphones aren’t?