It's not the summoner I was looking forward too. I know summoner wasn't even popular but I loved everything about it. I just wanted new awesome looking pets. I'm heartbroken.
I just selected auto for the class and, since auto is context sensitive, it seems to switch between the two familiars I'll be using frequently. The damage at levels below 10, with a barely-upgraded harmonize already feels 'equal' or more 'fun' than more DPS based classes. Force as a sub-class isn't horrible, either, offering better mobbing options, if I absolutely need elements. The wyvern is unaffected by environmental none-hazards. The propulsion things, you fly on, won't propel the wyvern upwards, which is sometimes a benefit, for challenges. Sadly, having only recently started the game, being very new, I know nothing. My waker is severely underleveled, so I am compelled to grind a little bit, before continuing the main story. I tried Braver, which I very much enjoyed, but I only really picked it because I am a soulsborne kind of person. Waker has perfect blocks, too, while still being a decent DPS. The defense is worse, but that's okay.
The beauty of waker is that its A) great for mobbing, literally one of the best mobbing classes. B) Bossing is fun, intuitive, and very strong when played properly
Surprisingly, I like the playstyle of Fo/Wa. I can weave into long range and close range consistently, while also having the benefit of elemental bullet spam with every successful parry. So while I don't have the damage of Maron Bomb, I have the damage of elemental bullets consistently which can probably round around Maron Bomb damage. It's a complicated style that I like that doesn't seem to have much of a downside while also giving Fo survivability as it builds into glass cannon. I'm pretty satisfied how it ended up as a subclass.
Waker class was something I was not expecting to feature as the next class release but it looks pretty cool. What is the BGM at the beginning of the video?
The Waker is basically a Tech Tank. It has some ranged utility, much like the Braver, but it's a class intended to be up in the front due to just how many types of defense it has and how it has passive skills designed the survivability. The Down bonuses also tells you that this designed for Bossing as it's primary role with some mobbing utility. I've currently found that it synergies really well with Jetboots Bouncer as you get the benefits of additional counters and vertical mobility which Waker doesn't offer. Likewise Bouncer benefits from the Waker normal being ranged as you don't need to use PP to close the gap to use melee normals. The options for Bo/Wa and Wa/Bo also generally come down to mobbing or bossing as clearly Bo/Wa benefits from the PP returns for trash mobs being defeated while offering stronger AoE Techniques. Wa/Te mixes may be viable too but there's a natural benefit to bossing with Wa/Bo due to double stacking of Down bonuses.
Vertical mobility? Bird/dragon ride PA tap. Also forward directional normal attack after PA (you'll see indication with blink ) to dash closer to mobs provides a good mobility.
@@FollowTheFaceless The vertical motion is so tiny it's basically only good for a triple hop, the Bouncers have two gap closers that go much further. For example, Thrust Drive can get you from the ground to the reactor on a Frostyls back in a single action. It's also much faster.
@@FollowTheFaceless Yes but jumping doesn't allow you to keep attacking DF hands way up in the air away from harm. Plus the future bosses like the transformer in the Kvaris Mining Defense will be quite high and other future bosses are very tall too?. So that extra verticality will be very useful.
I will have to do some calculations but I am pretty sure its Fatale > Attack > Termina. Fatale and Attack are pretty close to one another. I will do a video on this soonish
I have enough materials to make a kaizaar hamonizer. Was thinking of MW it with talis just to cover my other two tech classes but now I'm hesitant since it doesn't have anything decent for down damage.
You can always "not" multiweapon and simply swap over to a different wep for down phases. I do this with Partisan + Sword, especially when Relik's were wild expensive
i played around with waker just runing alnothe killing stuff i actually liked it, there are very few classes iv liked enough to spend time with an waker seams to be my next its fun to play a little but of a learning curve. but over all good
You're better of getting a Harmoniser from base PSO2. They typically have 235 with 23% potency even without augs. Once the demand for Harmonisers get lower than the supply the prices will become more reasonable.
Decent video overall but i'll have to disagree on some things. The first thing I don't really agree with is your mention of boss PA's VS mobbing PA's. Fredran's mobbing PA is still important inside boss fights because of building Fredran gear. Yes you can and do use the back pallet Fredran PA in boss encounters both to gain height as well as dive bomb but the latter isn't used constantly because it messes up your positioning and in general is slow. That's best used if you *can* squeeze it in as your opener for a down phase. But the front pallet Fredran PA can and does need to be spammed to maintain Fredran focus. As far as down damage not being great goes I also disagree. The class is entirely about managing resources. Because of that you should always have at least 2 of the following during a down phase: PB, any stack of Marmellow, and Harmony. If you don't have Harmony up then you should at least have one stack of focus for either Fredran or Wulf already that way you just need to get another stack of the other guy and then Harmony. Marmellow is worth throwing even if you don't have both stacks in a down phase. If you some how end up completely dry from these yes you only have Wulfen Raid spam. However that shouldn't be happening. Ignition's damage seems to not be scaling properly at the moment which does effect the DPS of the class to an extent. If that is bugged and gets fixed that's another thing you can pop during a down phase. Overall with the amount of damage Waker does in a general sense it's slightly weaker down phase damage doesn't seem problematic enough for me to slap boots on the class. Waker is basically constantly popping mini PB's with Harmony and Marmellow throws. Finally linear drive is situational but I still find good usage for it. For me I use it to back away from a boss when I have Marmellow stacks to throw. As even though the throw itself is vulnerable the start up has guard frames. Staying in the bosses face to get more counters is nice if you're still building up stacks. Which just loops back into the idea that Waker is all about good management of your resources. A marmellow throw is going to do more than a counter will. I agree with going Fo in bursts as there's no reason not to but for bossing unless it's DF I would take fighter instead. DF you'd go Bo for the part damage and much longer down damage phases allowing for more than one JI.
After getting used to it, imho its a very very strong and flexible class. The only downside is like mentioned that it doesnt do too well with down phases if you dont have Familiar harmony and marmellow strike ready to go for burst damages. The skill set allows for both unga-bunga or strategic playstyles depending on content with the existence of hot marmellow parry and its skill tree passive. Fun class to play overall and even more busted when it comes to mobbing with FO as sub. 👌👌👌
I'm liking Te/Wa with the only downside being not being able to yeet Marmelo's . Scratches that support summoner itch I have whenever I play an MMO which base PSO2 Su didn't scratch. Gonna run this even if it's probably not good until the gunblade class drops.
I hate they havent add a new range class, I cant belive they will do this BS again, of having only two range classes and a fuck toan of the other ones.
@@Thriftshoppin you know what would be cool? a range class that uses drones and turrets to attack, maybe be able to set temporal aids like old turrets on base PSO, summon mini drones that attack or provide buffs for everyone, something like a support class, fuck they can get creative in a sci-fi setting like PSO2.
I been waiting for Waker for a year and to be honest, I am not unhappy at all. The class is fun to play, I love the style of the class too. Its animation are great! Is does feel a bit clunky without hot marmello parry but at the same time, the damage from Waker seem unreal. I reached lvl 60 fairly quickly yesterday and went into some solo purple to practice bossing. Mello counter is just insane against some boss that can proc them quickly like Bujin. With a good pace, you can chain those explosion back to back and every time it is almost like landing a jet intensity in damage terms. TLDR: I love the class and I will main it just like I was main summoner on base!
Waker definitely feels micro-management heavy to me due to the focus gauge mechanics. By the way, I usually want to fit in the focus gauge uses BEFORE popping the harmonizer mark on a boss, since that does increase damage and downing
The riding is fun but takes too long to actually get on fredran. Its over a whole second of being stuck in the same spot before you actually begin moving lol
he is good at pse burst, ok lets take that in account. If we get ever an endless mode. Take a ranger with blight rounds wide range and the waker makes aoe. But why
I did find it comepletely useless with my first day of play. And even to this day I never use it. However, I say in the video it most likely is useful for certain fights. I also explain my reasoning for not using it which I still stand by~
@@Thriftshoppin wel yeah but you know how most ppl are. once their fav creator says its useless they wont use it. its ok to show your opinion about it but i think its also good to show ppl to be open about it and try it out for themselves or show them some choices they can try out.
i was a summoner main in classic pso2 i absolutely hate this version of summoner i dont see why anyone would main it maybe sub it for buffs but other than that i hate it with a passion it feels like a slap on the face to the summoner mains
waker is boring. which means that objectively it's a bad class. especially during pse, you literally hold one button for the entire pse. I already feel sorry for the gunblade class, cause i can see it being the same kind of boring mess that is meant for bots, instead of real people.
@@vintr2189 pse is a part of the game, and if that part is just holding one button... something ain't right. If the pets would be more independent instead of boring stand puppets that would attack on their own and you'd use the gauge for combo skills with the pets(think tag team attack), i think that would be a lot more enjoyable experience. But then again, SU in base is also brain dead, so i guess they stayed true.
@@Bellzamas you don't seem to understand, with waker, you can just tape the key and leave, and your pse performance won't change. Also real force users use talis and during pse use manual aiming instead of lock on. and honestly that's the weakest "argument" possible.(if it can even be called an argument) here's a friendly advice, try to make your arguments in a more constructive manner, instead of "omg, -------- class also need to press buttons, or tap buttons, it's the same thing" stuff. Bruh.
"Waker is boring. Which means that objectively it's a bad class"??? ...a class being boring is subjective so I don't how it can be objectively boring based on that🙄. If you don't like it, say that, but don't make it sound like you have imperical evidence. How you like to play isn't the playstyle that everyone must adhere to.
thanks i hate it! thats my impretion summoner was meant to be a long long looong range job where you sent your pet to fight for you cos you are a lazy dirty casual now its its a close up magic fighter job wtf .... they summon wont even defend you and it doesnt have have the charm to follow you around like a cute pet ... way to ruin another job sega now im afraid what they will do to gunblade
You can still mostly do ranged attacks with the bird but your damage won’t be very optimal. If you want long long lazy range go Force. Sit back and pelt enemy with techs.
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It's not the summoner I was looking forward too. I know summoner wasn't even popular but I loved everything about it. I just wanted new awesome looking pets. I'm heartbroken.
Yup the Waker doesn't fulfil the summoner wants which is unfortunate. That being said, Waker is a super fun class to play lol
Same, I hope they add summoner to NGS and don’t leave this as a replacement
Waiting for a class that uses PB to summons a mech and pilot it.
Standby for Titanfall!
@@carrotpl *lands on Luther
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I just selected auto for the class and, since auto is context sensitive, it seems to switch between the two familiars I'll be using frequently. The damage at levels below 10, with a barely-upgraded harmonize already feels 'equal' or more 'fun' than more DPS based classes. Force as a sub-class isn't horrible, either, offering better mobbing options, if I absolutely need elements.
The wyvern is unaffected by environmental none-hazards. The propulsion things, you fly on, won't propel the wyvern upwards, which is sometimes a benefit, for challenges. Sadly, having only recently started the game, being very new, I know nothing. My waker is severely underleveled, so I am compelled to grind a little bit, before continuing the main story.
I tried Braver, which I very much enjoyed, but I only really picked it because I am a soulsborne kind of person. Waker has perfect blocks, too, while still being a decent DPS. The defense is worse, but that's okay.
The beauty of waker is that its A) great for mobbing, literally one of the best mobbing classes. B) Bossing is fun, intuitive, and very strong when played properly
I Totally agree With your opinion. ❤️ I personally won’t be using it as my main a will stick with force.
It's worth saying that Fo and Wa are designed for very different playstyles. Wakers simply doesn't have the passives and skills to be a glass-cannon.
Same
Surprisingly, I like the playstyle of Fo/Wa. I can weave into long range and close range consistently, while also having the benefit of elemental bullet spam with every successful parry. So while I don't have the damage of Maron Bomb, I have the damage of elemental bullets consistently which can probably round around Maron Bomb damage. It's a complicated style that I like that doesn't seem to have much of a downside while also giving Fo survivability as it builds into glass cannon. I'm pretty satisfied how it ended up as a subclass.
Interesting!!! Id love to see waker subclass gameplay~
Waker class was something I was not expecting to feature as the next class release but it looks pretty cool. What is the BGM at the beginning of the video?
All music is by Harris Heller! Song title: Trust Fall
The Waker is basically a Tech Tank. It has some ranged utility, much like the Braver, but it's a class intended to be up in the front due to just how many types of defense it has and how it has passive skills designed the survivability. The Down bonuses also tells you that this designed for Bossing as it's primary role with some mobbing utility.
I've currently found that it synergies really well with Jetboots Bouncer as you get the benefits of additional counters and vertical mobility which Waker doesn't offer. Likewise Bouncer benefits from the Waker normal being ranged as you don't need to use PP to close the gap to use melee normals.
The options for Bo/Wa and Wa/Bo also generally come down to mobbing or bossing as clearly Bo/Wa benefits from the PP returns for trash mobs being defeated while offering stronger AoE Techniques. Wa/Te mixes may be viable too but there's a natural benefit to bossing with Wa/Bo due to double stacking of Down bonuses.
Vertical mobility? Bird/dragon ride PA tap. Also forward directional normal attack after PA (you'll see indication with blink ) to dash closer to mobs provides a good mobility.
@@FollowTheFaceless The vertical motion is so tiny it's basically only good for a triple hop, the Bouncers have two gap closers that go much further. For example, Thrust Drive can get you from the ground to the reactor on a Frostyls back in a single action. It's also much faster.
@@KryyssTV I'm just using dash double jump. Never had any problems with verticality in this game.
@@FollowTheFaceless Yes but jumping doesn't allow you to keep attacking DF hands way up in the air away from harm. Plus the future bosses like the transformer in the Kvaris Mining Defense will be quite high and other future bosses are very tall too?. So that extra verticality will be very useful.
@@KryyssTV I have double double jump from add-on skills now, dunno what you're talking about :P
In short: if I can't reach something - I shoot at it.
Off topic what's bis fixa now that we can add more crit with braver add on skill.
I will have to do some calculations but I am pretty sure its Fatale > Attack > Termina. Fatale and Attack are pretty close to one another. I will do a video on this soonish
Ty so much your the best content creator ever
I have enough materials to make a kaizaar hamonizer. Was thinking of MW it with talis just to cover my other two tech classes but now I'm hesitant since it doesn't have anything decent for down damage.
You can always "not" multiweapon and simply swap over to a different wep for down phases. I do this with Partisan + Sword, especially when Relik's were wild expensive
can't wait for gunblade
i played around with waker just runing alnothe killing stuff i actually liked it, there are very few classes iv liked enough to spend time with an waker seams to be my next its fun to play a little but of a learning curve. but over all good
I'd recommend getting a 3* Harm, They're like 100K-ish last time I checked on ship 1. Also, running Falz R1 is a good way to get Cinq harm too.
You're better of getting a Harmoniser from base PSO2. They typically have 235 with 23% potency even without augs. Once the demand for Harmonisers get lower than the supply the prices will become more reasonable.
@@KryyssTV Never really played base (on global). So, I barely have Mats for any weapon.😂
I was thinking going wa/ra, is that an okay combination?
Solid take and a great video!
Decent video overall but i'll have to disagree on some things. The first thing I don't really agree with is your mention of boss PA's VS mobbing PA's. Fredran's mobbing PA is still important inside boss fights because of building Fredran gear. Yes you can and do use the back pallet Fredran PA in boss encounters both to gain height as well as dive bomb but the latter isn't used constantly because it messes up your positioning and in general is slow. That's best used if you *can* squeeze it in as your opener for a down phase. But the front pallet Fredran PA can and does need to be spammed to maintain Fredran focus.
As far as down damage not being great goes I also disagree. The class is entirely about managing resources. Because of that you should always have at least 2 of the following during a down phase: PB, any stack of Marmellow, and Harmony. If you don't have Harmony up then you should at least have one stack of focus for either Fredran or Wulf already that way you just need to get another stack of the other guy and then Harmony. Marmellow is worth throwing even if you don't have both stacks in a down phase. If you some how end up completely dry from these yes you only have Wulfen Raid spam. However that shouldn't be happening.
Ignition's damage seems to not be scaling properly at the moment which does effect the DPS of the class to an extent. If that is bugged and gets fixed that's another thing you can pop during a down phase. Overall with the amount of damage Waker does in a general sense it's slightly weaker down phase damage doesn't seem problematic enough for me to slap boots on the class. Waker is basically constantly popping mini PB's with Harmony and Marmellow throws. Finally linear drive is situational but I still find good usage for it. For me I use it to back away from a boss when I have Marmellow stacks to throw. As even though the throw itself is vulnerable the start up has guard frames. Staying in the bosses face to get more counters is nice if you're still building up stacks. Which just loops back into the idea that Waker is all about good management of your resources. A marmellow throw is going to do more than a counter will.
I agree with going Fo in bursts as there's no reason not to but for bossing unless it's DF I would take fighter instead. DF you'd go Bo for the part damage and much longer down damage phases allowing for more than one JI.
luckily got a sechetyl harm drop ;w; i saw the market price in ship1 and it's still at 2mil and up X'DD
Grats! I am currently hoping to get a sechetyl drop myself~
After getting used to it, imho its a very very strong and flexible class. The only downside is like mentioned that it doesnt do too well with down phases if you dont have Familiar harmony and marmellow strike ready to go for burst damages.
The skill set allows for both unga-bunga or strategic playstyles depending on content with the existence of hot marmellow parry and its skill tree passive.
Fun class to play overall and even more busted when it comes to mobbing with FO as sub.
👌👌👌
So what’s your build for skills
Fun, just I’m not the best with level farming, so I’m level 12 after an hour or so, but I feel as if I am going to inverts into this class over time
Yellow Triggers. The second you can enter them. Thats the most exp you'll get. It will get boring but do some each day and you'll zoom levels
@@Thriftshoppin thanks for this tip, I've now got half of my classes at level 60 and am now trying to get my first kaaizar weapon
I'm liking Te/Wa with the only downside being not being able to yeet Marmelo's . Scratches that support summoner itch I have whenever I play an MMO which base PSO2 Su didn't scratch. Gonna run this even if it's probably not good until the gunblade class drops.
I haven't tried much of waker subclass. Not having marmelo strike would suck!
I hate they havent add a new range class, I cant belive they will do this BS again, of having only two range classes and a fuck toan of the other ones.
True! What would you want to see in a ranged class
@@Thriftshoppin you know what would be cool? a range class that uses drones and turrets to attack, maybe be able to set temporal aids like old turrets on base PSO, summon mini drones that attack or provide buffs for everyone, something like a support class, fuck they can get creative in a sci-fi setting like PSO2.
I'D BE DOWN FOR THIS!! Drones that you can set in areas or have auto-patrol that do damage/heal/buff
I been waiting for Waker for a year and to be honest, I am not unhappy at all. The class is fun to play, I love the style of the class too. Its animation are great! Is does feel a bit clunky without hot marmello parry but at the same time, the damage from Waker seem unreal. I reached lvl 60 fairly quickly yesterday and went into some solo purple to practice bossing. Mello counter is just insane against some boss that can proc them quickly like Bujin. With a good pace, you can chain those explosion back to back and every time it is almost like landing a jet intensity in damage terms.
TLDR: I love the class and I will main it just like I was main summoner on base!
I'm currently building waker full tank with braver sub class, pretty fun, not in pse burst since pp suck with my build.
Ohh man how much do you heal passively over time? I can see it now, a walking tank healing 90+ per second haha
I was waiting to play this game when they release summoner and I really thought this was gonna be it but it wasn't so ended up uninstalling :(
Yeah its def not summoner
Good byeeeeee 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Waker definitely feels micro-management heavy to me due to the focus gauge mechanics. By the way, I usually want to fit in the focus gauge uses BEFORE popping the harmonizer mark on a boss, since that does increase damage and downing
Symbol amplified harmonized damage (only)
Yoshi: Wat that's u Thrift .wow u have my sub for u
LMAO xD
I just think riding fredran is fun
The riding is fun but takes too long to actually get on fredran. Its over a whole second of being stuck in the same spot before you actually begin moving lol
he is good at pse burst, ok lets take that in account. If we get ever an endless mode. Take a ranger with blight rounds wide range and the waker makes aoe. But why
Keep practicing Waker. Each day I play I like the class more and more aha
So... it's NGS' version of Summoner?
Yep
You don't need a weapon pallet for this cause you can auto prock with techer sub and still do good dps trust me I've been experiencing good play ▶️ 👌
What is "this"? And proc what? I'm curious about what you meant there
You got to level 60 in 8 hours?? I gotta step my grind up.
in about 4 hours~
Spam Yellow Kvaris C:
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Managed to buy Sechetyl Harm. for 50k, lol
Legit highway robbery! These are still selling for 3mil on ship2
Not a lot for Ra but it's expected.
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Waker partizan
Ohlawd is this even allowed? This may summon a portal to a demonic realm
Partizan mid range and waker short and long
Bold of you to assume I'm going to use anything besides Auto Movement and the weapon action lol.
sadly waker is not a pet class, so no thanks.
Still worth a try, its a lot of fun
dont say something is completely useless. instead say somehting like its dpending on ppl's playstyle and show it can be useful too.
I did find it comepletely useless with my first day of play. And even to this day I never use it. However, I say in the video it most likely is useful for certain fights. I also explain my reasoning for not using it which I still stand by~
@@Thriftshoppin wel yeah but you know how most ppl are. once their fav creator says its useless they wont use it. its ok to show your opinion about it but i think its also good to show ppl to be open about it and try it out for themselves or show them some choices they can try out.
i was a summoner main in classic pso2 i absolutely hate this version of summoner i dont see why anyone would main it maybe sub it for buffs but other than that i hate it with a passion it feels like a slap on the face to the summoner mains
i will because i like to fight not stay behind like old Su yeah pso2 Su will hate Ea but people that hate pso2 Su will be ok with Wa
Old SU is so boring, WA is much more well done gameplay wise.
waker is boring. which means that objectively it's a bad class. especially during pse, you literally hold one button for the entire pse.
I already feel sorry for the gunblade class, cause i can see it being the same kind of boring mess that is meant for bots, instead of real people.
You’re absolutely right, PSE is the only thing people run these days…
@@vintr2189 pse is a part of the game, and if that part is just holding one button... something ain't right.
If the pets would be more independent instead of boring stand puppets that would attack on their own and you'd use the gauge for combo skills with the pets(think tag team attack), i think that would be a lot more enjoyable experience.
But then again, SU in base is also brain dead, so i guess they stayed true.
Forces always hold or tap a bottom too
@@Bellzamas you don't seem to understand, with waker, you can just tape the key and leave, and your pse performance won't change.
Also real force users use talis and during pse use manual aiming instead of lock on.
and honestly that's the weakest "argument" possible.(if it can even be called an argument) here's a friendly advice, try to make your arguments in a more constructive manner, instead of "omg, -------- class also need to press buttons, or tap buttons, it's the same thing" stuff. Bruh.
"Waker is boring. Which means that objectively it's a bad class"??? ...a class being boring is subjective so I don't how it can be objectively boring based on that🙄. If you don't like it, say that, but don't make it sound like you have imperical evidence. How you like to play isn't the playstyle that everyone must adhere to.
thanks i hate it! thats my impretion summoner was meant to be a long long looong range job where you sent your pet to fight for you cos you are a lazy dirty casual now its its a close up magic fighter job wtf .... they summon wont even defend you and it doesnt have have the charm to follow you around like a cute pet ... way to ruin another job sega now im afraid what they will do to gunblade
I actually hope they make a familiar raising system that is separate from classes. For that I say "good job sega".
Think of it as a stand my guy.
@@anthonypittman6443Although I can understand being disappointed if you're more of a traditional MMO tab-targeter type of player.
You can still mostly do ranged attacks with the bird but your damage won’t be very optimal. If you want long long lazy range go Force. Sit back and pelt enemy with techs.
@Ariana Chilumi sad