I haven't been in that situation myself, but I've seen artists I follow experience/talk about this sort of thing before. The first one that comes to mind is someone on twitter who would ask people to draw characters in astronaut suits, I think? It's wild that no matter how long I've been on the internet, things like this can still utterly baffle me ._.
I never realized "fetish farming" was the term for it before today, but I absolutely knew a guy who did exactly that, back on tumblr. For those who don't know, there was this guy in the Wreck-it Ralph fandom who would go around to different popular blogs and ask a seemingly innocent question, along the lines of "Can video game characters die of a broken heart?" Before going on for a few more sentences about... the science behind dying of a broken heart, I think? I don't recall exactly, it's been a long while, but that first sentence is chiseled into my brain at this point. I recall first encountering him in 2013-2014, but I've heard he was already a Thing(tm) years before that, and I've also seen him in more recent times around the Undertale fandom, asking more or less the same question, just swapping out "video game characters" for "monsters". I remember the posts being fairly recent, too, meaning this guy's been at it for nearly a decade, if not over a decade at this point. Some people just never change, I guess.
@@umwha The tactic's pretty similar to what Cheerleader Man did in the video. Also, I seem to recall that at one point, it came to light that this guy had some other, nastier fetishes. This is a RUclips comments section, however, so that's as far as I'll explain.
@@chippotato5647 I've never heard of someone having 'Can someone die of a broken heart' fetish. The tactics may be similar, but by that logic, everyone who persistently asks a question has the same 'tactics'.
@@chippotato5647 Exactly. My friend knows one guy who kept asking for Disney characters freezing to death in the snow. He payed well but after the third drawing my friend was creeped out and blocked him.
You're very lucky that you still got the old screenshot of your old RUclips channel layout, Courtney. I miss the old RUclips so much! AMVs, animation drawing, Windows Movie Maker, those were the good times. I feel like being a kid back in the 2000s again.
I'm with you on that one too! Nice to meet you too! Early Newgrounds, Fred, Smosh, NigaHiga, Annoying Orange, Flash Games! I'm a 2000s kid too, so I can relate too! LOL
Explain please, even after watching the whole video I don't understand how cheerleading could be considered a fetish, and I've seen many, many weird things online.
@@mr.whimsic6902 It's a really popular thing to fedishise here in America. Anything high-schooler will be turned into a fedish. Especially in pop culture. I find it weird.
Back when I used DeviantART, I did a series called “Ask Nix!” (Very original, I know) around the age of 12, someone kept asking me if I could draw my OC with her head detached, no gore, just her head popped off like a broken doll. I was so creeped out that I addressed him as my OC just saying “haha, no”
I’m glad she made this video for old and new artists that are coming here to post art and make themselves and other people happy! It’s good that she puts this information out there!
Ah, the universal story of fetish weirdos approaching art circles. I'm sure everyone old enough has one, for me it's the tutu guy from around 2013-2016 in the pokemon community, who did exactly as his name implies. EDIT: Holy crap, I didn't expect the tutu guy to actually be brought up in the video. I knew he was everywhere on tumblr, but geez...
The worst part of fetiśh farming/mining is that the people who do it specifically get off on the fact they’re tricking someone into unknowingly providing them with material. That’s why they don’t just go to an adult artist or sex workers with their requests (like they should) and instead resort to targeting people, usually KIDS, who they think won’t know better. It’s predatory and despicable.
Most of the ones I’ve met were kids themselves that were in denial that their fetish was sexual, so they saw no harm in asking other artists for it. At least that was the trend back in the old days of deviantART.
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
Ive experienced this so much, two people... TWO PEOPLE requested some fetish farming stuff form me, one was Amy rose on a pogo stick, the other was amy rose trapped in a bubble ;-; BRO HOW? HOW AND WHY ARE THESE FETISHES?
I'm on Devianart so I have some tips on what do when someone asks for an art request at least on the website. - Always check what the user favorites is there's something off on their gallery, that's a red flag. - If they insists you to draw that feels off or makes you uncomfortable, ignore them, or even better, block them. - Add some rules of what what you can and can't draw, trust me on this one. That's why I limit requests and what people could ask me to draw. Especially if they sound like a fetish.
And always make sure to add a “I can deny a request/commision for any reason” on top of your list!! That way you don’t have to try to list all the stuff you don’t wanna draw and risk having someone say “mememe well it wasn’t on your rules >:((” It should be a given to anyone requesting, but I think it’s mostly there for the artist to refer to if they have trouble with denying stuff.
thank you!! im currently only allowed on DA as a art media, so this helps a ton. I've been blocking people with very obvious fetish based Favorites. Also, I was requested to draw Undyne playing a trombone--would that be considered a fetish? Thanks!
Yeah, thats some good advice all artists should follow. Bro a literal blacklist was sent to me by a really nice person, and two of those names on the blacklist contacted me ;-;
I have never interacted or knew about “The Cheerleader Man” at all, but I did do some research about this person because I got too interested about this user. I won’t mention all of the details for obvious reasons but I will mention that this user was mutual or friends with one of my followers, so small world, and I will also mention that RUclips wasn’t the only place they did this. This is a pretty good cautionary tale for younger viewers and artists with a pretty good moral at the end. It shows the dangers of requests and to avoid them in case it fuels someone’s desires. The questions you’ve mentioned are also comments I’ve seen before on two art related websites, one of course being Deviantart and the other site I won’t mention since the latter is more NSFW based. Like you said, it's okay to have a fetish but given how much the user was doing this, it's so creepy. Anyways, great job with this video!
I have had people "innocently" ask me to draw fetish art before when I opened up requests as a young artist. I never followed through with those requests mostly because I just didn't want to draw them. I didn't know they were fetishes back then, but I obviously know now that I'm older. I have somehow dodged those bullets due to lacking the motivation to draw such art.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie… And then in the second part you blindsided me with a freight train splattered with clown colors. Just… what?
There's an interview with the "wonder bread guy" where he talks about his... Thought process. Apparently an episode of Dexter's lab where Didi (his blonde sister) destroys everything he worked hard for (Dexter's lab) was his awakening. To be specific, he's really into the idea of deforestation and blonde rich women destroying the environment. However Murrlogic IIRC wasn't that much of a fetish farmer (as far as I'm aware). He actually reached for artists and comissioned the wonder bread art.
As I take the time to recontextualize everything in my childhood I find it oddly humorous in a way that the things I saw frequently in my childhood may or may not have had sinister or completely benign origins, just the power of innocence to see the best in everything I suppose. I barely interacted with anyone when youtube and the sonic fandom started out because my family warned me so I was relatively fearful but still enjoyed seeing trends without actually engaging to understand where they come from. Sonic characters in Cheerleader outfits was one of the trends and in my mind I was like "Oh my gosh that is so cute, I love seeing Cream wear that little get up Isn't she just adorable" weird to me that there was an actual person *requesting* this art instead of the fandom doing it just because they genuinely might find it cute themselves.
Once I received a request to draw some characters from Witch cuddling under a tree. I denied it because I'm not in the fandom but I took a peek at the requester's favorites. It was chock full of the same characters "cuddling" under trees. And I use the term "cuddling" loosely.
I'm really glad situations like this are becoming more known because something similar happened when I was about 12 and I was fairly new to posting art at the time. Basically someone asked me to draw inflation art of a character they liked and I didn't know it was a f3tish until my older brother pointed it out and I immediately stopped drawing that person's requests.
Oh nooooo. I learned that the hard way. As a kid, I thought that stuff was funny since I didn't know better. Looking back on it... Why?! Why do people want that? Maybe I'm glad I can't really draw well
Sigh. You can just ask people like this to pay you. They eather leave you or actually willing to pay any amount of money you say. Farming works both way. But tbh i dont really understand why they coming to the abgridge artists if there are a tons of fetish artists.
How do you not know inflation is a fetish? It's not one I have (exepct blueberry inflation, which I have a fetish for but don't like), but I definitely know about it.
Wow This video brought back a memory I had completely forgotten about. Back when I was about 12 (so like 2014 or 2015) or something I started taking art requests on deviant art. I would draw peoples ocs, or even a tv show character. One day I got a comment from some guy who was obsessed with this childrens tv show. It was a super crappy animated mouse show or something. And he said something along the lines of “could you draw the main mouse character huge and holding his mouse friend?” I was confused but willing to do it, however before I could get to drawing it, another user commented under my post and saved me. They said “hey, dont do that. They’re well known for asking tons of artists for this stuff, its their fetish.” So thanks to that user, I dodged a bullet.
Holy crap, this suddenly took me back to my DeviantArt years, I think I was about twelve or thirteen? Some rando kept asking me to draw characters wearing pyjamas. It never struck me as weird back then, but I still never did what they asked out of sheer laziness… x) I wonder what they’re up to know…
I might know who you’re talking about. There was this guy who would comment on Sontails fanart, expressing his disgust of the ship for genuine (the 7 year age gap) and homophobic reasons. Being a Sontails fan at the time, I started to hate-follow the guy. When I went to his page, I was met with reposted requests of Sonic and co. in their pajamas. His fanfictions also usually detailed them lazing around the whole day and sleeping. Occasionally, he would request this of other characters, such as Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, Gumball and Darwin Watterson to name a few. However, he was mostly requesting Sonic characters. He’s been on DeviantArt for around 10 years at this point, so I was wondering if you came across him.
@@PokebellasWussy Hmm, I’ll be honest, I wasn’t curious enough to check their actual page... It could absolutely be the same person though! We might never know... ^^’
god it's so funny how exactly half of the examples you gave rang alarm bells for me. both times I knew all too well about one and had never heard of the other.
it's interesting hearing about strange and rather unusual incidents like this. I knew some fans who were into Streetfighter who were... into some things I will not mention here. And it became very apparent the person was rather obsessed with this thing. To a point where whenever I saw this person, I would avoid mentioning any female characters from anything. It was a really creepy experience.
That's awful! What kind of sick person would ask someone to draw their OC in a cheerleader outfit? Disgusting! Anyways, can you draw Sonic the Hedgehog and Shrek giving b-
No god please no! Nooooooo! Jokes aside, how does that work? SpongeBob IS A SPONGE. They reproduce asexually. How can something without a gender become pregnant?
I had this similar story, not just in the Sonic community, but in other communities. I dealt with this in Deviantart days years ago, back around 2014 -2016. One who is very into ticklish, One who wanted me to draw feet (sadly did...) and one who into toilet fetish that ask me to borrow my art for it. (Thankfully I didn’t replied to him) I'm so happy you spread this awareness whitch, I wish it spread more, so people don't make this mistake as I did.
It reminds me a guy who kept wanting commission me to draw cream as a giant. I did it once (needed money) and I felt weird and when they asked again I told them I was uncomfortable with the concept and they stop.
Yeah once had someone attempt by asking "I wonder what this character would look in a Tutu!"...apparently attempted this with both me, and a former friend of mine, and when neither of us complied he buggered off :/
Thanks for sharing your beautiful cautionary tale. Well I’ve never been in an incident like this. I agree about the moral of the story you said at the end.
Thank you for putting out this video. I wish I saw it when I was younger or someone told me. I’ve had a long history of posting my art on the internet and have encountered many of these types of people. It happens in all fandoms and on any platforms. Fetish farming people usually target smaller/younger artists because they are more likely to be unaware that a mundane yet weirdly specific request is a fetish. Bigger/older artists will usually see the pattern and call them out for trying to use them for their own pleasure. It’s sad that it’s so common.
There’s only one good “fetish farmer” and that’s the Macro StarFox Falco guy because he’s actually a good human being who actually cares about the artist he commissions
I remember this guy, oh nooooooo Also the sound that came out of me to see my old video pop up on the screen was not human. I am honored that one of my old creations has made its way so far that it showed up here. It is honestly so surreal to me
Oh god, when I was 13-14 I did so many Deviantart requests for a guy who would always ask for characters on pogo sticks. His whole gallery was just stock photos of pogosticks. Wasn't until a few years later it suddenly hit me and I felt really weird about it.
I remember this one time someone asked me to draw Vanny from fnaf in latex gloves, and I knew IMMEDIATELY that this was a fetish, but I honestly didn't have anything better to do, so I did it and it actually helped me improve my art Then they asked again so I just drew a quick shitpost the most asexually way possible and they got pissed off and when they asked for the real deal I just blocked them lmao
I don't get these kinds of people, like plenty of artists exist who do fetish art normally, there's really no reason to exploit artists who don't for it when you can just go and pay an artist who makes that kind of stuff already for it. I've had friends from the SFW side of my artist circles get these exact kind of messages and it's always weird to me because plenty of Fetish artists exist so why go out of your way to get it from the handful of artists who don't do that kind of work?
Most likely scenarios are: 1) Fooling an unknowing artist into participating in the kink IS part of the kink (which is awful because healthy kink should always involve consent and awareness) 2) they don't wanna pay an actual kink artist 3) they legit don't know kink artists or how to commission them
My first and only experience with fetish farming has been in the Moomin Tumblr fandom. There was this person who went around asking artists to draw Sniff, a Moomin character, wearing flip flops and/or swimming trunks. It became sort of an inside joke and I was kinda aware of it until I got an ask from the guy’s main blog requesting I partake in this... tradition???? I forgot about the ask by the time a friend actually confirmed this was, in fact, fetish farming and all of my mutual and I blocked them
Oh my god the Moomin fandom is wild. I've seen so much gross content of Snus/Snufkin and Joxaren/Joxter giving birth to "pups" and sometimes it even haunts me while I am asleep at night.
Oh gosh, I've had an encounter with a tutu fetish farmer. In 2016 I created a Deviantart account to separate Sonic stuff from main, and after posting a single pic of my OC, someone asked me to draw that OC in a tutu. I didn't really know what fetishes were at the time (though at least I was 18+), so I drew it, thinking it was a cute idea. Then they tried RPing with me and felt a lil pushy despite me saying I have no interest in RPing It wasn't even anything big, but now I'm hesitant on drawing tutus, whether in Sonic art or not. Which is a shame because I think they're cute :C
Glad you talked about this. Ugh...reminds me of a time on DA when I still did free requests. I thought putting up rules for them was a no brainer, stick to the rules, I even put in bold NO FETISHES......and what does the thrid person do? Ask me for one....I was a confused people pleaser at the time, as the request was of a fakemon with swirly eyes and I didn't know that was a fetish. I had drawn (not uploading it yet) it with it's eyes closed walking in a field (though my gut was still screaming the red flag at me, despite trying to make the piece innocent. Listen to your gut, people. It knows somehow.) but later, the guy DM'd me and showed me a picture of a dog laying on it's back, belly exposed, looking up at the camera and wanted me to draw his fakemon like that. I deleted what I'd drawn right after and (after breaking away from my annoying people pleasing self) asked the guy if this was for a feitish. He was honest, surprisingly, and said it was, so I was honest, told him I deleted the pic and would not to his request.....Dude had a small tantrum after that, DMing me about 5 times wanting me to continue, denying yet not denying that the request really was a weird fetish. I ignored him, blocked him and stopped doing free requests after that. One bad apple spoiled the bunch for me. Even now, not touching DA ever again, I'm not giving free requests to just anyone ever again. Respect an artist's rules. Seriously.
Never knew there was as term for it-- 'fetish farming' makes a lot of sense now. Happened to me a few years ago, "harmless" request for Astra from "How To Train Your Dragon" getting hypnotized by Kaa from "The Jungle Book." Doodled it without thinking too hard other than "who tf is Kaa" Only realized it was a fetish when a good friend of mine, who was way more familiar with the internet asked me "when did you start drawing fetish art?" I'm glad she told me, but holy shit did she startle me!
Seeing the sentence “who tf is kaa” is really funny for some reason, probably because I loved the jungle book when I was little and he was my favorite lol
The thing that upsets me is These Fetish Farmers always target younger and naive artists. And the sweethearts fall for it because this is a form of validation for their art and Ocs. It's even worst in Fandoms where Ocs and their creators tend to be singled out too. If you have a fetish, good for you. But commission a NSFW or fetish artist. A lot of them will draw their ocs for your kink/fetish because money is money. Plus Ya know, They know exactly what they are getting into with that line of commission.
These people are the most heinous people I can think of in the art community. Like how depraved do you have to be to go to CHILDREN to get them to draw your sexual fantasy. It's so disgusting.
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
so. when I was in amino, there was this guy in the adventure time amino that kept asking artists including me to draw specifically pb and Marceline with a pig nose. we've reported him multiple times but the "leaders" did nothing because they were friends with this creep, so I left and I doubt anything's changed. there was this other guy in sonic amino that wanted a nsfw of Tails in a maid dress and a diaper, and I declined so fast and blocked him. at the end of the day Amino is trash and a cesspool for predator's.
I got asked once on DA to draw Roxanne Wolf and Vanny and as they put “Trapped in bubbles” I never responded- And then another one which featured one of my oc’s known as Chance which someone commented talking about their oc being a contortionist and oddly enough they kept talking about wanting their characters neck to be snapped?? 💀
Bruh a few years ago i got a DM on amino of someone asking me to draw their OC burping because "his belleh is uncontrollable" or something along those lines, i thought it was a really weird offer but i eventually declined it. I don't want to assume they meant anything bad by it; they were very polite and when i asked for a different pose, they did. I only really declined the offer because the OC had a bodytype i didn't know how to draw at the time. Wherever they are now, i hope they're doing well. But still....kinda weird tbh
OH SHIT FNAF BUBBLE GUY I think that exact same guy approached me a couple years back, and I nearly fuckin fell for it 💀 He specifically pitched the idea of an art trade, and asked for a drawing of Funtime Foxy and Toy Chika getting trapped in bubbles,, , But ofc he immediately ghosted me when I suggested we send each other proof of our drawings lmfaoo
I don't even do much art, but I got this on a twitch stream of a Homestar Runner game of all things. There's an individual who lurks on twitch for streams of the Strong Bad point and click adventure game and asks them to play Chapter 2 so they can see the scene of Homestar crying. I later found their tumblr, where they constantly request art of the same scene... needless to say, I was uncomfortable.
I had a similar experience but it wasn’t the same guy. This guy commented for me to draw my Puyo Puyo oc with Juggler cookie from cookie run. They told me to draw them getting electrocuted, in the rain, and in a snowstorm. I checked their profile and they liked other art that I assume they asked other artists to draw with their characters or other characters. After watching your video I realized uhh that was a mistake- I didn’t know this term existed till now. Anyways, thank you Courtney
why were 2013-2016 fandoms infiltrated by mfs with the most OUT THERE fetishes commissioning random people with innocuous terms??? did everyone want to be the wonder bread guy???
I think the most infamous version of this is the wonderbread guy. I’m glad that at least the tactics have become obvious for a lot of people now, and are more easily avoided in some way.
I feel like I've experienced this sort of thing multiple times back in my deviantart days, but I can't remember any specifics. But I do recall browsing the Disney fandom about five years ago and there were a weird amount of drawings of Merida from Brave and Penny from Bolt being age-swapped. They all seemed to be done by different artists too, and I remember being very confused by this supposed "trend." I didn't do any investigating but I had a strong feeling it was just one person going around asking these artists to draw the same thing. Weird vibes all around.
I remember always wanting to join in on the fun and post my sonic ocs on youtube or deviantart, but my older brother would always tell me how dangerous the sites could be. It always frustrated me, but now I can see why he did it- And to think, i thought the wonderbread guy was bad
@@Twinklethefox9022 From what I heard, he was so heavy into his fetish farming of rich girls, wonderbread and deforestation that it became his whole life. I could be totally mistaken, but it stood out to me for a while now
As someone who used deviantart regularly as a kid, I'm surprised I never got these kinds of requests. However, I did have similar situations. I had an irl "friend" who would beg me to become apart of his foot fetish, even after telling him time after time I wasnt into that. And I saw an artist get fetish fanart of their characters. It doesnt help that its a normalized thing for people on deviantart to flaunt their fetish around where minors can see it. I guess what i'm trying to get at is, if you're a young or beginner artist, and something makes you uncomfortable: set boundaries, tell them no. And if people dont respect those boundaries then they probably arent worth your time.
I once got a request to draw one of my OCs who wore glasses losing those glasses in a Velma from Scooby Doo type situation. I thought this prompt was funny and innocent so I did it. I didn’t bother questioning it cuz it seemed harmless. This same person later came back and asked me to draw “shoe loss art”. so I blocked them and joked about it with my friends. I was 14.
To hear wind of this really baffles me. I kinda glad that I don't get comments like that with my fan fictions. I feel bad for the people who get them and are constantly annoyed by it. And to be asked to draw characters doing something harmless like burping or showing their feet. That's... Really gross, my friend. But great video Courtney! This is why I always watch videos about being aware on the internet.
2:28 Technically you can still do that today with Community posts...but the main difference is that the comments USUALLY have to pertain to what the Community post was about. Any unrelated comments (unless it's for a good laugh) will be overlooked.
i remember there was a similar guy on miiverse (primarily targeting young artists as well) who would always ask people to draw their characters with braids?? it was super bizarre and one of my online friends at the time was constantly getting messaged by this guy about it
I’ve actually been dealing with this one guy right now in a fandom I’m in. He’s been asking me to draw characters sleeping or yawning, and I’ve seen him ask some people who I’m friends with within the fandom to do the same things.
Back in my deviantArt days once upon a time I posted an innocent drawing of myself wearing a turtleneck sweater and long skirt, what I usually wore at the time, for one of those "meet the artist" things you'd had for your profile, and I got this ond dude in my comments aggressively begging me to draw "that character" (me...) in that same outfit but... tied up and with a bag covering my head. Like I was being kidnapped. Yeah. One glance at that guy's favorites and it was all the same theme: young girls wearing turtleneck sweaters and long skirts tied up with bags over their heads. Most of them drawn by young artists who got hounded by that guy's requests. There were over a hundred pieces, that guy was dedicated. I was what, 14 at the time? Maybe 15? Not entirely sure cause I'm 24 now, it's been a while lol. Just my luck that something so innocent I did as a kid would attract the attention of the creep with the most specific fetish ever x_x I don't miss being an unattended kid in fandom
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
@@pakboimsal8498 Oh yeah absolutely, the deception and naiveté of the kids being targeted is a huge part of these people's fetishes, the "goal" is to take advantage of someone so young they're oblivious to their true intentions, otherwise they'd be commissioning nsfw artists who are, y'know, actually adults with experience doing that kind of art. It's gross and I wish kids could have a safe space to be creative and not have to deal with that. I wish I hadn't been forced to deal with that too :( my original comment wasn't the only time I had that kind of encounter, just the most memorable one because of how they fully skipped targeting my OCs and directly tried to fish for fetish art of *myself*, a child :(
I remember seeing one of these in the comments of Ask The Sonic Heroes about five years ago. Forget what that person's vice was. Thought to myself "Why would you do this, _especially_ so publicly?" I think you put a good message in the end there, too. If you've got a thing, and it's not hurting anyone, there's really no shame to be had, but also don't try to manipulate people into doing it without knowing what it's for; there's fetish artists for a reason, bruh. They're all over the place. Commission one.
@@caramelbunny3240 They're still making it, if you can believe it. I'd like to think I'm a credible source for that information; I was the voice of Big for over a decade and am friends with many involved in the project. XD
This video actually ended up being helpful- I ended up seeing someone sending an ask blog saying a character wanted to marry the character the blog was based on and to dress up, the first time I thought it was nothing but when I saw another blog get the exact same ask word for word, I immediately send that blog an ask warning them the asker might have different motives-
see in this day and age we've seen enough wonderbread guys to know what to look out for, but we didn't have that back in 2007. jesus it was a scary ass time to be a minor with 20 year olds lurking around hoping to groom someone into their fetish
There's this one dude on Twitter who has an account dedicated to female Simpsons characters wearing ninja outfits. I actually got asked by this guy to do a drawing for him, which I took as "holy shit I'm popular enough to get noticed by Simpsons Ninja Guy!" I didn't end up doing the request though, he didn't want to order a commission from me. At least he was applicable about it!
ive made it a lifelong goal to be contacted by the female ninja simpsons guy. i will draw his simpsons female characters in ninja outfits but no sexy for him and free
Similar, but a little different for me! Rather than draw art, I once got dm-ed by someone asking me to play a "scene making" game. I was younger and kind of bored and I had played similar games with friends before as just some kind of silly roleplay thing at, so I agreed. It seemed pretty innocent at first but the questions felt stranger and stranger as they went on as they began to hyperfixate on the subject matter (a character jumping into a body of water) more and more. I was starting to get really creeped out when they began wanting me to describe how the character felt "as the water enveloped their body" and, no joke, what they were wearing what they jumped in. Needless to say, I stopped messaging that person *very* quickly.
there was this one guy on deviantart who would hop into peoples notes to ask them to draw the persons female oc/s (usually theyd use said ocs name/s) shivering in the cold or a snow storm. one of my old friends got him, then i saw someone else who fell victim to it
I got a request once on my DA when I got asked to draw the spider dude from The grim adventures of bill and Mandy’s stomach growling. They even linked a video of how they wanted it to look. I refused.
Holy shit! I had someone ask for my character to be in a tutu multiple times. I made a video talking about this. However in was in a different fandom. But you know, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
yeah what the hell i had a guy on tumblr who would ask me for the tutu thing and would ask me to draw characters bathing or in a bubble bath and would spam me with forms of "bubble bath" and nothing else
I’ve been in a similar situation. When I was 12, someone asked me to draw their human version of Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe. I don’t think this was really the fetish part? But I drew it bc the design was cute! Then, later, they messaged me again with something like “I have another request” so I asked what it was. Then they said something like “please draw something for me… my fetish…” and uhh. I said “no” before they could specify. What a creep…
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
Back when I drew The Lion King fan art and OCs quite a bit, there was someone who'd go around asking TLK artists to draw his OCs with their butts facing the viewer. Since I've never been comfortable with drawing butts like that, I kept telling him no and eventually threatened to block him when he continuously posted butt jokes after I told him to knock it off. Thankfully, he stopped when I made it clear he would be blocked. He seems to have faded out of existence in the past few years. (Unless he's still active and I haven't noticed since I stopped drawing TLK so often.)
This just got on my reccomended. Around the time when Animal Crossing new horizons came out, there was a person with a strange fixation on male villagers bellies, more specifically if their bellies were ticklish. I knew of tickle fetishes but gave them the benefit of the doubt as I seen stuff like this that weren’t fetishes, but in retrospect they talked about it in a way that made me realize it was so clearly a fetish
Back then the dude got away with it but nowadays if he wasn’t kicked out someone would call him out on his malarkey… oh wait I miscounted, 30 someones would’ve called him out on his malarkey within a few hours at minimum.
Oh I seen something like this. One time sometime after I got my deviantart account I got a request that was asking me if I could draw these two characters handcuffed to eachother and I thought "Well that sounds kinda weird" so I checked the account and the gallery was just art of these to characters handcuffed to each other and I though "Wow! That *looks* kinda weird" and I deleted the request
God, I remember the tutu guy in the pokemon ask blog community on tumblr. He would ask me, but I always deleted the comments. Mostly because I did not want to draw clothes in the first place, haha
When I started using DeviantArt a few years ago, I got a request from someone to draw Daisy inside a bubble. Didn't mind much of it at the time, and drew it as a cute pixel art (with Peach included because honestly why not, it was funny innocent scenario). Only after I realize people apparently as a thing to bubbles for some reason. Weirded me out a little bit ngl. Overall, nothing bad happen from it, and I like what I've created, but it was a weird experience nonetheless.
Yoo, I just made a PSA post on tumblr talking about fetish farming/mining. I guess it's happening a lot more frequently recently? But yeah man. These people are gross. It's fine to have a fetish, but to get artists to unknowingly and nonconsensually draw their material is so wrong. ESPECIALLY when they're getting minors involved. Then they act like it's not a fetish and that it's completely innocent, and it's just... Man we know what you're doing just stop. They're scumbags for not paying, not being honest, and preying on those who are naive or are minors.
That's relatable, artistes who get weird comments from weird people do draw what they want happens alot, it did happen to me yet but it might happen someday but i hope it does not happen.
Some guy on deviantart back when I was 12 asked me to art trade a bunch and he would keep asking me to draw some fandom characters wearing stinky french berets
Thanks Courtney, before I watch this video my faith in humanity was about a four or five now it’s down to two. in all seriousness though it’s a really important thing to talk about and I love your vids.🙂
Have you ever been in a situation like this before? Let me know down below!
I haven't but I'm sorry you went through that my friend
Well I don't remember, I think I kinda do had that, but I am also sorry that ur into this mess, buddy. Hugs
Believe me. I have.. Kinda...
I haven't been in that situation myself, but I've seen artists I follow experience/talk about this sort of thing before. The first one that comes to mind is someone on twitter who would ask people to draw characters in astronaut suits, I think?
It's wild that no matter how long I've been on the internet, things like this can still utterly baffle me ._.
No, but it's one more reason why I don't do requests XD
I never realized "fetish farming" was the term for it before today, but I absolutely knew a guy who did exactly that, back on tumblr. For those who don't know, there was this guy in the Wreck-it Ralph fandom who would go around to different popular blogs and ask a seemingly innocent question, along the lines of "Can video game characters die of a broken heart?" Before going on for a few more sentences about... the science behind dying of a broken heart, I think? I don't recall exactly, it's been a long while, but that first sentence is chiseled into my brain at this point.
I recall first encountering him in 2013-2014, but I've heard he was already a Thing(tm) years before that, and I've also seen him in more recent times around the Undertale fandom, asking more or less the same question, just swapping out "video game characters" for "monsters". I remember the posts being fairly recent, too, meaning this guy's been at it for nearly a decade, if not over a decade at this point. Some people just never change, I guess.
How does asking if someone can die if a broken heart relate to fetishes or fetish farming?
@@umwha The tactic's pretty similar to what Cheerleader Man did in the video. Also, I seem to recall that at one point, it came to light that this guy had some other, nastier fetishes. This is a RUclips comments section, however, so that's as far as I'll explain.
@@chippotato5647 I've never heard of someone having 'Can someone die of a broken heart' fetish. The tactics may be similar, but by that logic, everyone who persistently asks a question has the same 'tactics'.
@@umwha People can have some very specific fetishes on the internet, dude. I don't know what else to tell you.
@@chippotato5647 Exactly. My friend knows one guy who kept asking for Disney characters freezing to death in the snow. He payed well but after the third drawing my friend was creeped out and blocked him.
You're very lucky that you still got the old screenshot of your old RUclips channel layout, Courtney. I miss the old RUclips so much! AMVs, animation drawing, Windows Movie Maker, those were the good times. I feel like being a kid back in the 2000s again.
same, I still remember how my channel used to look all those years ago. I miss that old layout style and the ability to customize channels.
@@dilo19000 Then Internet trolls came in and ruined it all...
I'm with you on that one too! Nice to meet you too! Early Newgrounds, Fred, Smosh, NigaHiga, Annoying Orange, Flash Games! I'm a 2000s kid too, so I can relate too! LOL
Oh god trusta just got worst
Zoomer comment moment.
Cheerleaders, that can’t be that ba- *sudden flashback* Ooooooh…
Explain please, even after watching the whole video I don't understand how cheerleading could be considered a fetish, and I've seen many, many weird things online.
@@mr.whimsic6902
Anything can be a fetish if one tries hard enough
@@mr.whimsic6902 It's a really popular thing to fedishise here in America. Anything high-schooler will be turned into a fedish. Especially in pop culture. I find it weird.
@@mr.whimsic6902 because cheerleader oufit cute
@@mr.whimsic6902 for a similar reason why schoolgirl uniforms, and uniforms in general are fetishized.
Back when I used DeviantART, I did a series called “Ask Nix!” (Very original, I know) around the age of 12, someone kept asking me if I could draw my OC with her head detached, no gore, just her head popped off like a broken doll. I was so creeped out that I addressed him as my OC just saying “haha, no”
That's awesome
I completely forgot I left that reply lol
I’m glad she made this video for old and new artists that are coming here to post art and make themselves and other people happy! It’s good that she puts this information out there!
Agreed! Nice to meet you btw! How are you? :D
@@sirmoony5633 nice to meet you too, I’m good how are you?
@@creative_won1 I'm fine! Thanks for asking! Nice icon! :D
Ah, the universal story of fetish weirdos approaching art circles. I'm sure everyone old enough has one, for me it's the tutu guy from around 2013-2016 in the pokemon community, who did exactly as his name implies.
EDIT: Holy crap, I didn't expect the tutu guy to actually be brought up in the video. I knew he was everywhere on tumblr, but geez...
The worst part of fetiśh farming/mining is that the people who do it specifically get off on the fact they’re tricking someone into unknowingly providing them with material. That’s why they don’t just go to an adult artist or sex workers with their requests (like they should) and instead resort to targeting people, usually KIDS, who they think won’t know better. It’s predatory and despicable.
Most of the ones I’ve met were kids themselves that were in denial that their fetish was sexual, so they saw no harm in asking other artists for it.
At least that was the trend back in the old days of deviantART.
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
Ive experienced this so much, two people... TWO PEOPLE requested some fetish farming stuff form me, one was Amy rose on a pogo stick, the other was amy rose trapped in a bubble ;-; BRO HOW? HOW AND WHY ARE THESE FETISHES?
I'm on Devianart so I have some tips on what do when someone asks for an art request at least on the website.
- Always check what the user favorites is there's something off on their gallery, that's a red flag.
- If they insists you to draw that feels off or makes you uncomfortable, ignore them, or even better, block them.
- Add some rules of what what you can and can't draw, trust me on this one.
That's why I limit requests and what people could ask me to draw. Especially if they sound like a fetish.
And always make sure to add a “I can deny a request/commision for any reason” on top of your list!! That way you don’t have to try to list all the stuff you don’t wanna draw and risk having someone say “mememe well it wasn’t on your rules >:((”
It should be a given to anyone requesting, but I think it’s mostly there for the artist to refer to if they have trouble with denying stuff.
kind of breaks down when anything could be a fetish, that's the...idea of the term.
thank you!! im currently only allowed on DA as a art media, so this helps a ton. I've been blocking people with very obvious fetish based Favorites. Also, I was requested to draw Undyne playing a trombone--would that be considered a fetish? Thanks!
Yeah, thats some good advice all artists should follow. Bro a literal blacklist was sent to me by a really nice person, and two of those names on the blacklist contacted me ;-;
@@DAVINACANISyou can tune a trombone but you can't "tuna" fish
I have never interacted or knew about “The Cheerleader Man” at all, but I did do some research about this person because I got too interested about this user. I won’t mention all of the details for obvious reasons but I will mention that this user was mutual or friends with one of my followers, so small world, and I will also mention that RUclips wasn’t the only place they did this.
This is a pretty good cautionary tale for younger viewers and artists with a pretty good moral at the end. It shows the dangers of requests and to avoid them in case it fuels someone’s desires. The questions you’ve mentioned are also comments I’ve seen before on two art related websites, one of course being Deviantart and the other site I won’t mention since the latter is more NSFW based. Like you said, it's okay to have a fetish but given how much the user was doing this, it's so creepy. Anyways, great job with this video!
I have had people "innocently" ask me to draw fetish art before when I opened up requests as a young artist. I never followed through with those requests mostly because I just didn't want to draw them. I didn't know they were fetishes back then, but I obviously know now that I'm older. I have somehow dodged those bullets due to lacking the motivation to draw such art.
ah yes, lack of motivation!! the solution to anything
What a lovely young man, I sure hope he doesn't do something absolutely horrific
"i don't like where is this going." - Jontron
"Goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all in therapy." - Plankton
nice pfp
All right spill it. what did this asshole do?
I'd heard of the burp guy.
But have you heard of the weirdest example that I recently learned of...THE "buy a lot of Wonder Bread" fetish farmer?
The wonder bread thing sounds hilarious.
Edit: I never heard of this guy before so I dunno what he did.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie…
And then in the second part you blindsided me with a freight train splattered with clown colors. Just… what?
Apparently the wonder bread thing was originally a joke but then he just actually got into it
There's an interview with the "wonder bread guy" where he talks about his... Thought process. Apparently an episode of Dexter's lab where Didi (his blonde sister) destroys everything he worked hard for (Dexter's lab) was his awakening. To be specific, he's really into the idea of deforestation and blonde rich women destroying the environment.
However Murrlogic IIRC wasn't that much of a fetish farmer (as far as I'm aware). He actually reached for artists and comissioned the wonder bread art.
Also wasn’t the wonder bread guy arrested or something. Apparently he was also fired for some “questionable” acts towards female employees
As I take the time to recontextualize everything in my childhood I find it oddly humorous in a way that the things I saw frequently in my childhood may or may not have had sinister or completely benign origins, just the power of innocence to see the best in everything I suppose. I barely interacted with anyone when youtube and the sonic fandom started out because my family warned me so I was relatively fearful but still enjoyed seeing trends without actually engaging to understand where they come from. Sonic characters in Cheerleader outfits was one of the trends and in my mind I was like "Oh my gosh that is so cute, I love seeing Cream wear that little get up Isn't she just adorable" weird to me that there was an actual person *requesting* this art instead of the fandom doing it just because they genuinely might find it cute themselves.
"now draw her getting bad gacha rolls in Fate Grand Order."
i remember once that someone requested me to draw Lucario's feet on Gardevoir. Younger me took it as Lucario winning against Gardevoir, lol
"Can you draw your Oc holding your breath"
Aw man... the fact I knew where this was going
Once I received a request to draw some characters from Witch cuddling under a tree. I denied it because I'm not in the fandom but I took a peek at the requester's favorites. It was chock full of the same characters "cuddling" under trees. And I use the term "cuddling" loosely.
I'm really glad situations like this are becoming more known because something similar happened when I was about 12 and I was fairly new to posting art at the time. Basically someone asked me to draw inflation art of a character they liked and I didn't know it was a f3tish until my older brother pointed it out and I immediately stopped drawing that person's requests.
Oh nooooo. I learned that the hard way. As a kid, I thought that stuff was funny since I didn't know better. Looking back on it... Why?! Why do people want that? Maybe I'm glad I can't really draw well
Sigh. You can just ask people like this to pay you. They eather leave you or actually willing to pay any amount of money you say. Farming works both way.
But tbh i dont really understand why they coming to the abgridge artists if there are a tons of fetish artists.
How do you not know inflation is a fetish?
It's not one I have (exepct blueberry inflation, which I have a fetish for but don't like), but I definitely know about it.
Wow This video brought back a memory I had completely forgotten about. Back when I was about 12 (so like 2014 or 2015) or something I started taking art requests on deviant art. I would draw peoples ocs, or even a tv show character. One day I got a comment from some guy who was obsessed with this childrens tv show. It was a super crappy animated mouse show or something. And he said something along the lines of “could you draw the main mouse character huge and holding his mouse friend?” I was confused but willing to do it, however before I could get to drawing it, another user commented under my post and saved me. They said “hey, dont do that. They’re well known for asking tons of artists for this stuff, its their fetish.” So thanks to that user, I dodged a bullet.
Holy crap, this suddenly took me back to my DeviantArt years, I think I was about twelve or thirteen? Some rando kept asking me to draw characters wearing pyjamas. It never struck me as weird back then, but I still never did what they asked out of sheer laziness… x)
I wonder what they’re up to know…
I might know who you’re talking about.
There was this guy who would comment on Sontails fanart, expressing his disgust of the ship for genuine (the 7 year age gap) and homophobic reasons. Being a Sontails fan at the time, I started to hate-follow the guy.
When I went to his page, I was met with reposted requests of Sonic and co. in their pajamas. His fanfictions also usually detailed them lazing around the whole day and sleeping. Occasionally, he would request this of other characters, such as Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, Gumball and Darwin Watterson to name a few. However, he was mostly requesting Sonic characters.
He’s been on DeviantArt for around 10 years at this point, so I was wondering if you came across him.
@@PokebellasWussy
Hmm, I’ll be honest, I wasn’t curious enough to check their actual page... It could absolutely be the same person though! We might never know... ^^’
god it's so funny how exactly half of the examples you gave rang alarm bells for me. both times I knew all too well about one and had never heard of the other.
it's interesting hearing about strange and rather unusual incidents like this. I knew some fans who were into Streetfighter who were... into some things I will not mention here. And it became very apparent the person was rather obsessed with this thing. To a point where whenever I saw this person, I would avoid mentioning any female characters from anything. It was a really creepy experience.
That's awful! What kind of sick person would ask someone to draw their OC in a cheerleader outfit? Disgusting!
Anyways, can you draw Sonic the Hedgehog and Shrek giving b-
Bread to each other because sharing is nice. And i mean they hand it to each other and then go their separate ways
aren't there some of those images already on the Internet?
I mean the most popular ship besides Sondaow is shreadow
@@whentheimsusterissus396 I seen a terrible one with shrek and spongebob as a couple. Apparently shadow is their son and spongebob is expecting.
No god please no! Nooooooo!
Jokes aside, how does that work?
SpongeBob IS A SPONGE. They reproduce asexually.
How can something without a gender become pregnant?
well it could be worse; you could be asked to draw your OC bound and gagged with wonder-bread and deforestation...
I had this similar story, not just in the Sonic community, but in other communities. I dealt with this in Deviantart days years ago, back around 2014 -2016. One who is very into ticklish, One who wanted me to draw feet (sadly did...) and one who into toilet fetish that ask me to borrow my art for it. (Thankfully I didn’t replied to him)
I'm so happy you spread this awareness whitch, I wish it spread more, so people don't make this mistake as I did.
It reminds me a guy who kept wanting commission me to draw cream as a giant. I did it once (needed money) and I felt weird and when they asked again I told them I was uncomfortable with the concept and they stop.
Yeah once had someone attempt by asking "I wonder what this character would look in a Tutu!"...apparently attempted this with both me, and a former friend of mine, and when neither of us complied he buggered off :/
Thanks for sharing your beautiful cautionary tale. Well I’ve never been in an incident like this. I agree about the moral of the story you said at the end.
Thank you for putting out this video. I wish I saw it when I was younger or someone told me. I’ve had a long history of posting my art on the internet and have encountered many of these types of people. It happens in all fandoms and on any platforms. Fetish farming people usually target smaller/younger artists because they are more likely to be unaware that a mundane yet weirdly specific request is a fetish. Bigger/older artists will usually see the pattern and call them out for trying to use them for their own pleasure. It’s sad that it’s so common.
There’s only one good “fetish farmer” and that’s the Macro StarFox Falco guy because he’s actually a good human being who actually cares about the artist he commissions
I've actually heard that he's a really nice guy
He's technically not a fetish farmer/miner because he pays for all of the art he commissions-
I remember this guy, oh nooooooo
Also the sound that came out of me to see my old video pop up on the screen was not human. I am honored that one of my old creations has made its way so far that it showed up here. It is honestly so surreal to me
Oh god, when I was 13-14 I did so many Deviantart requests for a guy who would always ask for characters on pogo sticks. His whole gallery was just stock photos of pogosticks. Wasn't until a few years later it suddenly hit me and I felt really weird about it.
this is a certified Wonderbread Man moment
Oh yeah that guy
I remember this one time someone asked me to draw Vanny from fnaf in latex gloves, and I knew IMMEDIATELY that this was a fetish, but I honestly didn't have anything better to do, so I did it and it actually helped me improve my art
Then they asked again so I just drew a quick shitpost the most asexually way possible and they got pissed off and when they asked for the real deal I just blocked them lmao
I see that people are _still_ trying to fetishise FNAF.
Not gonna happen.
I don't get these kinds of people, like plenty of artists exist who do fetish art normally, there's really no reason to exploit artists who don't for it when you can just go and pay an artist who makes that kind of stuff already for it.
I've had friends from the SFW side of my artist circles get these exact kind of messages and it's always weird to me because plenty of Fetish artists exist so why go out of your way to get it from the handful of artists who don't do that kind of work?
Most likely scenarios are:
1) Fooling an unknowing artist into participating in the kink IS part of the kink (which is awful because healthy kink should always involve consent and awareness)
2) they don't wanna pay an actual kink artist
3) they legit don't know kink artists or how to commission them
My first and only experience with fetish farming has been in the Moomin Tumblr fandom. There was this person who went around asking artists to draw Sniff, a Moomin character, wearing flip flops and/or swimming trunks. It became sort of an inside joke and I was kinda aware of it until I got an ask from the guy’s main blog requesting I partake in this... tradition???? I forgot about the ask by the time a friend actually confirmed this was, in fact, fetish farming and all of my mutual and I blocked them
Oh my god the Moomin fandom is wild. I've seen so much gross content of Snus/Snufkin and Joxaren/Joxter giving birth to "pups" and sometimes it even haunts me while I am asleep at night.
Oh gosh, I've had an encounter with a tutu fetish farmer. In 2016 I created a Deviantart account to separate Sonic stuff from main, and after posting a single pic of my OC, someone asked me to draw that OC in a tutu. I didn't really know what fetishes were at the time (though at least I was 18+), so I drew it, thinking it was a cute idea. Then they tried RPing with me and felt a lil pushy despite me saying I have no interest in RPing
It wasn't even anything big, but now I'm hesitant on drawing tutus, whether in Sonic art or not. Which is a shame because I think they're cute :C
Glad you talked about this. Ugh...reminds me of a time on DA when I still did free requests. I thought putting up rules for them was a no brainer, stick to the rules, I even put in bold NO FETISHES......and what does the thrid person do? Ask me for one....I was a confused people pleaser at the time, as the request was of a fakemon with swirly eyes and I didn't know that was a fetish. I had drawn (not uploading it yet) it with it's eyes closed walking in a field (though my gut was still screaming the red flag at me, despite trying to make the piece innocent. Listen to your gut, people. It knows somehow.) but later, the guy DM'd me and showed me a picture of a dog laying on it's back, belly exposed, looking up at the camera and wanted me to draw his fakemon like that. I deleted what I'd drawn right after and (after breaking away from my annoying people pleasing self) asked the guy if this was for a feitish. He was honest, surprisingly, and said it was, so I was honest, told him I deleted the pic and would not to his request.....Dude had a small tantrum after that, DMing me about 5 times wanting me to continue, denying yet not denying that the request really was a weird fetish. I ignored him, blocked him and stopped doing free requests after that. One bad apple spoiled the bunch for me. Even now, not touching DA ever again, I'm not giving free requests to just anyone ever again. Respect an artist's rules. Seriously.
Never knew there was as term for it-- 'fetish farming' makes a lot of sense now.
Happened to me a few years ago, "harmless" request for Astra from "How To Train Your Dragon" getting hypnotized by Kaa from "The Jungle Book." Doodled it without thinking too hard other than "who tf is Kaa"
Only realized it was a fetish when a good friend of mine, who was way more familiar with the internet asked me "when did you start drawing fetish art?"
I'm glad she told me, but holy shit did she startle me!
Seeing the sentence “who tf is kaa” is really funny for some reason, probably because I loved the jungle book when I was little and he was my favorite lol
I knew a guy who had one for characters getting wrapped in tissues like a mummy he was a chill dude
The thing that upsets me is These Fetish Farmers always target younger and naive artists. And the sweethearts fall for it because this is a form of validation for their art and Ocs. It's even worst in Fandoms where Ocs and their creators tend to be singled out too. If you have a fetish, good for you. But commission a NSFW or fetish artist. A lot of them will draw their ocs for your kink/fetish because money is money. Plus Ya know, They know exactly what they are getting into with that line of commission.
These people are the most heinous people I can think of in the art community. Like how depraved do you have to be to go to CHILDREN to get them to draw your sexual fantasy. It's so disgusting.
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
This is a tale that needs to be talked about more.
Never heard of this incident till now, and I’m a little confused.
so. when I was in amino, there was this guy in the adventure time amino that kept asking artists including me to draw specifically pb and Marceline with a pig nose. we've reported him multiple times but the "leaders" did nothing because they were friends with this creep, so I left and I doubt anything's changed. there was this other guy in sonic amino that wanted a nsfw of Tails in a maid dress and a diaper, and I declined so fast and blocked him. at the end of the day Amino is trash and a cesspool for predator's.
I got asked once on DA to draw Roxanne Wolf and Vanny and as they put “Trapped in bubbles” I never responded-
And then another one which featured one of my oc’s known as Chance which someone commented talking about their oc being a contortionist and oddly enough they kept talking about wanting their characters neck to be snapped??
💀
Bruh a few years ago i got a DM on amino of someone asking me to draw their OC burping because "his belleh is uncontrollable" or something along those lines, i thought it was a really weird offer but i eventually declined it.
I don't want to assume they meant anything bad by it; they were very polite and when i asked for a different pose, they did. I only really declined the offer because the OC had a bodytype i didn't know how to draw at the time. Wherever they are now, i hope they're doing well. But still....kinda weird tbh
OH SHIT FNAF BUBBLE GUY
I think that exact same guy approached me a couple years back, and I nearly fuckin fell for it 💀
He specifically pitched the idea of an art trade, and asked for a drawing of Funtime Foxy and Toy Chika getting trapped in bubbles,, ,
But ofc he immediately ghosted me when I suggested we send each other proof of our drawings lmfaoo
*bleeping* bubbles!
Btw I got that from the nostalgia critic.
I don't even do much art, but I got this on a twitch stream of a Homestar Runner game of all things. There's an individual who lurks on twitch for streams of the Strong Bad point and click adventure game and asks them to play Chapter 2 so they can see the scene of Homestar crying. I later found their tumblr, where they constantly request art of the same scene... needless to say, I was uncomfortable.
I had a similar experience but it wasn’t the same guy. This guy commented for me to draw my Puyo Puyo oc with Juggler cookie from cookie run. They told me to draw them getting electrocuted, in the rain, and in a snowstorm. I checked their profile and they liked other art that I assume they asked other artists to draw with their characters or other characters. After watching your video I realized uhh that was a mistake- I didn’t know this term existed till now. Anyways, thank you Courtney
Once upon a time...
There was a man named "Pablo"...
Pablo was not a very good man...
He liked to...
MAKE YOUNG ARTISTS DRAW WEIRD ART OF THEIR OCS!
why were 2013-2016 fandoms infiltrated by mfs with the most OUT THERE fetishes commissioning random people with innocuous terms??? did everyone want to be the wonder bread guy???
The timeline for this story was from 2007-2009, so it's like the wonder bread guy before the wonder bread guy, but nonetheless you are so right.
I think the most relevant example I can think of that most people might know due to meme status is the wonderbread guy
reminds me of someone going around tumblr asking pokemon askblogs if they could puff their cheeks out 💀
I get a lot of these questions on my art tiktok and there have been so many times that they got pissed off because all I'd reply with is “🤡”
I think the most infamous version of this is the wonderbread guy. I’m glad that at least the tactics have become obvious for a lot of people now, and are more easily avoided in some way.
Someone once sent me a full guide for a character uniform. Like, a flexible guide. They are now blocked, it just felt weirder the further I read...
Thank you for becoming my fandom aunt, Courtney
I feel like I've experienced this sort of thing multiple times back in my deviantart days, but I can't remember any specifics. But I do recall browsing the Disney fandom about five years ago and there were a weird amount of drawings of Merida from Brave and Penny from Bolt being age-swapped. They all seemed to be done by different artists too, and I remember being very confused by this supposed "trend." I didn't do any investigating but I had a strong feeling it was just one person going around asking these artists to draw the same thing. Weird vibes all around.
I remember always wanting to join in on the fun and post my sonic ocs on youtube or deviantart, but my older brother would always tell me how dangerous the sites could be. It always frustrated me, but now I can see why he did it-
And to think, i thought the wonderbread guy was bad
You had a great brother huh?
What did the wonder bread guy do?
@@Twinklethefox9022 From what I heard, he was so heavy into his fetish farming of rich girls, wonderbread and deforestation that it became his whole life. I could be totally mistaken, but it stood out to me for a while now
As someone who used deviantart regularly as a kid, I'm surprised I never got these kinds of requests. However, I did have similar situations. I had an irl "friend" who would beg me to become apart of his foot fetish, even after telling him time after time I wasnt into that. And I saw an artist get fetish fanart of their characters. It doesnt help that its a normalized thing for people on deviantart to flaunt their fetish around where minors can see it.
I guess what i'm trying to get at is, if you're a young or beginner artist, and something makes you uncomfortable: set boundaries, tell them no. And if people dont respect those boundaries then they probably arent worth your time.
I once got a request to draw one of my OCs who wore glasses losing those glasses in a Velma from Scooby Doo type situation. I thought this prompt was funny and innocent so I did it. I didn’t bother questioning it cuz it seemed harmless. This same person later came back and asked me to draw “shoe loss art”. so I blocked them and joked about it with my friends. I was 14.
To hear wind of this really baffles me. I kinda glad that I don't get comments like that with my fan fictions. I feel bad for the people who get them and are constantly annoyed by it.
And to be asked to draw characters doing something harmless like burping or showing their feet. That's... Really gross, my friend. But great video Courtney! This is why I always watch videos about being aware on the internet.
2:28 Technically you can still do that today with Community posts...but the main difference is that the comments USUALLY have to pertain to what the Community post was about. Any unrelated comments (unless it's for a good laugh) will be overlooked.
This is going to be an interesting story
i remember there was a similar guy on miiverse (primarily targeting young artists as well) who would always ask people to draw their characters with braids?? it was super bizarre and one of my online friends at the time was constantly getting messaged by this guy about it
I’ve actually been dealing with this one guy right now in a fandom I’m in. He’s been asking me to draw characters sleeping or yawning, and I’ve seen him ask some people who I’m friends with within the fandom to do the same things.
Back in my deviantArt days once upon a time I posted an innocent drawing of myself wearing a turtleneck sweater and long skirt, what I usually wore at the time, for one of those "meet the artist" things you'd had for your profile, and I got this ond dude in my comments aggressively begging me to draw "that character" (me...) in that same outfit but... tied up and with a bag covering my head. Like I was being kidnapped. Yeah. One glance at that guy's favorites and it was all the same theme: young girls wearing turtleneck sweaters and long skirts tied up with bags over their heads. Most of them drawn by young artists who got hounded by that guy's requests. There were over a hundred pieces, that guy was dedicated. I was what, 14 at the time? Maybe 15? Not entirely sure cause I'm 24 now, it's been a while lol. Just my luck that something so innocent I did as a kid would attract the attention of the creep with the most specific fetish ever x_x I don't miss being an unattended kid in fandom
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
@@pakboimsal8498 Oh yeah absolutely, the deception and naiveté of the kids being targeted is a huge part of these people's fetishes, the "goal" is to take advantage of someone so young they're oblivious to their true intentions, otherwise they'd be commissioning nsfw artists who are, y'know, actually adults with experience doing that kind of art. It's gross and I wish kids could have a safe space to be creative and not have to deal with that. I wish I hadn't been forced to deal with that too :( my original comment wasn't the only time I had that kind of encounter, just the most memorable one because of how they fully skipped targeting my OCs and directly tried to fish for fetish art of *myself*, a child :(
I remember seeing one of these in the comments of Ask The Sonic Heroes about five years ago. Forget what that person's vice was.
Thought to myself "Why would you do this, _especially_ so publicly?"
I think you put a good message in the end there, too. If you've got a thing, and it's not hurting anyone, there's really no shame to be had, but also don't try to manipulate people into doing it without knowing what it's for; there's fetish artists for a reason, bruh. They're all over the place. Commission one.
Ask the Sonic Heroes? That's an ancient series I've never expected to see mentioned again in 2022
@@caramelbunny3240 They're still making it, if you can believe it. I'd like to think I'm a credible source for that information; I was the voice of Big for over a decade and am friends with many involved in the project. XD
@@skull902 Heyyyy that's awesome!
This video actually ended up being helpful- I ended up seeing someone sending an ask blog saying a character wanted to marry the character the blog was based on and to dress up, the first time I thought it was nothing but when I saw another blog get the exact same ask word for word, I immediately send that blog an ask warning them the asker might have different motives-
I sooooo miss this era with people making stories of their Sonic OCs on youtube. It was the start and inspiration of why I have my OCs today. :3
The 2000s were a wild time 💀
see in this day and age we've seen enough wonderbread guys to know what to look out for, but we didn't have that back in 2007. jesus it was a scary ass time to be a minor with 20 year olds lurking around hoping to groom someone into their fetish
I pretty much agree, Exploiting young artists for your fetish is a no no and it's best to ask or commission an fetish artist to do that tbh
There's this one dude on Twitter who has an account dedicated to female Simpsons characters wearing ninja outfits. I actually got asked by this guy to do a drawing for him, which I took as "holy shit I'm popular enough to get noticed by Simpsons Ninja Guy!" I didn't end up doing the request though, he didn't want to order a commission from me. At least he was applicable about it!
ive made it a lifelong goal to be contacted by the female ninja simpsons guy. i will draw his simpsons female characters in ninja outfits but no sexy for him and free
Similar, but a little different for me! Rather than draw art, I once got dm-ed by someone asking me to play a "scene making" game. I was younger and kind of bored and I had played similar games with friends before as just some kind of silly roleplay thing at, so I agreed. It seemed pretty innocent at first but the questions felt stranger and stranger as they went on as they began to hyperfixate on the subject matter (a character jumping into a body of water) more and more. I was starting to get really creeped out when they began wanting me to describe how the character felt "as the water enveloped their body" and, no joke, what they were wearing what they jumped in.
Needless to say, I stopped messaging that person *very* quickly.
there was this one guy on deviantart who would hop into peoples notes to ask them to draw the persons female oc/s (usually theyd use said ocs name/s) shivering in the cold or a snow storm. one of my old friends got him, then i saw someone else who fell victim to it
I got a request once on my DA when I got asked to draw the spider dude from The grim adventures of bill and Mandy’s stomach growling. They even linked a video of how they wanted it to look. I refused.
Ohhhh god, I remember hearing stories about this. Anyways, super cool 2 see this!!! Love ur more commentary like videos, always a fun watch!!
Holy shit! I had someone ask for my character to be in a tutu multiple times. I made a video talking about this. However in was in a different fandom. But you know, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
yeah what the hell i had a guy on tumblr who would ask me for the tutu thing and would ask me to draw characters bathing or in a bubble bath and would spam me with forms of "bubble bath" and nothing else
@@rockandrule Ewww that’s really creepy! Sorry to hear that
I’ve been in a similar situation. When I was 12, someone asked me to draw their human version of Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe. I don’t think this was really the fetish part? But I drew it bc the design was cute! Then, later, they messaged me again with something like “I have another request” so I asked what it was. Then they said something like “please draw something for me… my fetish…” and uhh. I said “no” before they could specify. What a creep…
I have a feeling that this is a form of P3DOPHILIA and a way for P3DOs to manipulate kids for their own fantasies which is honestly disturbing that there's are people like this that are roaming the internet waiting there for a chance to strike
@@pakboimsal8498 I think it can definitely be a form of grooming
Back when I drew The Lion King fan art and OCs quite a bit, there was someone who'd go around asking TLK artists to draw his OCs with their butts facing the viewer. Since I've never been comfortable with drawing butts like that, I kept telling him no and eventually threatened to block him when he continuously posted butt jokes after I told him to knock it off. Thankfully, he stopped when I made it clear he would be blocked. He seems to have faded out of existence in the past few years. (Unless he's still active and I haven't noticed since I stopped drawing TLK so often.)
Another great video by project SNT in 2022, this never happened to me before actually Courtney
oh so *that’s* what the wonderbread guy is..
do i even wanna know...
OF COURSE I DO!
This just got on my reccomended. Around the time when Animal Crossing new horizons came out, there was a person with a strange fixation on male villagers bellies, more specifically if their bellies were ticklish. I knew of tickle fetishes but gave them the benefit of the doubt as I seen stuff like this that weren’t fetishes, but in retrospect they talked about it in a way that made me realize it was so clearly a fetish
Back then the dude got away with it but nowadays if he wasn’t kicked out someone would call him out on his malarkey… oh wait I miscounted, 30 someones would’ve called him out on his malarkey within a few hours at minimum.
I started using social media back in November to make art. Thanks for the advice!
Oh I seen something like this.
One time sometime after I got my deviantart account I got a request that was asking me if I could draw these two characters handcuffed to eachother and I thought "Well that sounds kinda weird" so I checked the account and the gallery was just art of these to characters handcuffed to each other and I though "Wow! That *looks* kinda weird" and I deleted the request
God, I remember the tutu guy in the pokemon ask blog community on tumblr. He would ask me, but I always deleted the comments. Mostly because I did not want to draw clothes in the first place, haha
When I started using DeviantArt a few years ago, I got a request from someone to draw Daisy inside a bubble. Didn't mind much of it at the time, and drew it as a cute pixel art (with Peach included because honestly why not, it was funny innocent scenario).
Only after I realize people apparently as a thing to bubbles for some reason. Weirded me out a little bit ngl.
Overall, nothing bad happen from it, and I like what I've created, but it was a weird experience nonetheless.
the bubbles thing might be a fetish due to its similarities to vore
@@angelcat1439 ...I mean, I figured, but how in the world is it similar to vore?
When that old YT layout appeared, a wave of nostalgia hit me like a bag of wet bricks.
Yoo, I just made a PSA post on tumblr talking about fetish farming/mining. I guess it's happening a lot more frequently recently? But yeah man. These people are gross. It's fine to have a fetish, but to get artists to unknowingly and nonconsensually draw their material is so wrong. ESPECIALLY when they're getting minors involved. Then they act like it's not a fetish and that it's completely innocent, and it's just... Man we know what you're doing just stop. They're scumbags for not paying, not being honest, and preying on those who are naive or are minors.
That's relatable, artistes who get weird comments from weird people do draw what they want happens alot, it did happen to me yet but it might happen someday but i hope it does not happen.
Damn i forgot YT used to be like that. Things change indeed.
Some guy on deviantart back when I was 12 asked me to art trade a bunch and he would keep asking me to draw some fandom characters wearing stinky french berets
*Fetish Farming*, darn I never knew there was a word for it!
New words for losers putting in my list
Glad this was made, cause it helps others see this
As an artist, that did happen to me before, from my fake friends.
Thanks Courtney, before I watch this video my faith in humanity was about a four or five now it’s down to two. in all seriousness though it’s a really important thing to talk about and I love your vids.🙂
Okay cool but can you please draw SNT filling out a job application? Specifically for Jimmy John’s