I had a 86 250r with spacers on the rear axle, that was the most fun machine ever, I'm still kicking myself for selling it. I went to the sand dunes one time and was absolutely destroying everyone that tried to drag race me, that thing was so fast it was almost unbelievable.
Sold my stretched 85 a month ago. It now feels like a loss in the family. I was racing a friend’s turbo Razor and on the sand I got it up to 74 mph. Plenty fast enough to die. A chance we cheerfully take. Merry Christmas to all!
The greatest three wheeler ad ever: The centerfold ad Honda ran in 1985. A shadowed silhouette atop a hill with the text "What to see what the other guys want to build for 1986?" Fold it out for the full color view and the text "The 1985 Honda ATC250R". Kawasaki and Yamaha did exactly that, but could never match it. What was even more amazing than the racing record of the ATC250R was the racing record of it's successor, the TRX250R. That machine was still winning a decade after the last one had rolled off the assembly line. It took the sanctioning bodies limiting the age of vehicles eligible for participation to clear the way for the modern 4 strokes to finally take over all the different series.
Had that on my wall as a kid Got Every Dirt wheels and 3 wheeler action unfortunately threw them out when I moved out in 96 from home always wanted a 250R or 350x had a 85 200x that was built
Im 47 and grew up riding them. Wish they still made them. Ive owned almost every model ever made at some point or another. My favorites were my '86 250R and my '85 350X. I would love a 2024 1000XX 3-Wheel Drive! 😂
You guys ever hear the Story that Honda was going to build an Atc 500 but one of the riders testing it crashed and died so Honda Shelved it. I know I read it somewhere years ago
I still have my 85 kxt 250 tecate. Im am the original owner and the engine is still on the original top end. Its never been opened up. Only mod is a full dg pipe and jetted thats it. Its been a couple years since i started it but i bet it fires in 3 kicks still. Baddest 3 wheeler ever made used to run circles around by buddies 86 suzuki 250 quad racer. Oh and the tecate would have beat them all if it had that 6th gear, just saying.
@@TheMapleDude1The 84-85 KXTecate had essentially the 82-83 KX transplant case, with a few different parts. I've drug a banshee and kept up till the top of fifth.
Great video! Thank you for this comparison and love your channel. Classic collector here from New Hampshire and now Vermont. Keep that Maple Syrup flowing and the Classic wheelers going!
I love this video. I'm 63 yrs old now but in 1985 I bought the Kawasaki Tecate 250 brand new. That thing was a rocket. My friend from school bought the 1985 Honda 250 R at the same time. It was a rocket as well. We used to drag race these machines and my Tecate got a 1 1/2 trike lead at the start and then we just held that position right to top speed. He couldn't gain and I couldn't pull more lead. In 1976 I was 16 yrs old and used to buy a brand new bike every year with my holiday pay from work until the mid 80's. I own many Can Am's , Kawasaki's and one Yamaha (TY175 trials which was used). Wish I still had those machines because some would be worth some money now, especially the 1977 Can Am MX3 175 pumpkin. Side note: You have an air leak on that Kawasaki and you are going to melt a piston. I have a lot of experience with this and have melted more than half a dozen pistons on my 3 Honda FL350's that I own. Cracked intake boot or base gasket leak. You have been warned.
Oh I am aware the idle does hang some... and I've replaced the intake gaskets I know they are good. The boot also looked fine. I've never heard of it being a cylinder base gasket, though.
@@TheMapleDude1 It could also be a crankshaft seal gone which is more like the case here since you say nothing seems obvious. Had that happen on my Honda FL350's as well.
yea my dad bought one new in the day and said all the gears the front wheel would come up, very hard bike to handle. I'd say this bike has lost most of it's power Tecate should of took 1st.
before i had to sell my mint 85 250R, i really wanted to just pickle it in grease and save it forever, suspecting i would later regret selling it. and yep, always have. sometimes dream that i'm still riding it, and i have always had nice MX bikes both before and after the ATC250R... shows ya that thing was just special. i can't believe how many rigs you guys have!
I had a Yamaha Yellow 1984 Tri-Z 250 and my buddies 250R was always faster at the top end but I could take him in the short. Another friend had the Tecate. So much fun. Awesome machines and you have to say the Tri-Z may have been the coolest of the bunch.
Always nice to see these 3 together. Too bad Suzuki never made an ALT250R 3-wheeler, but it looks like Quadzilla is in a league of its own at 82 mph. I see that This Old Trike got his slightly modified 1985 ATC350X up to 65 mph. Merry Christmas to TMD and Jack, and thanks for the videos!!
If you want your 65 miles per hour trike to do 75, 80 , or more all that is necessary is small axle sprocket and /or larger output shaft sprocket. I.E. , change final gear ratio.
LTR500 Rattled itself apart and always broke constantly. Was definitely a beast 𝙉𝙊𝙏 everyone could ride or handle but my LoneStar Banshee smoked them easily.
Love it. Thanks Brother. Just seeing those beautiful machines all together and running still is flashback to the good ole days. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
I enjoy your video bring back memories, I had a used 1985 Honda 250R and it was pretty fast until a old pro dirt bike racer rebuild it and turn it into a killer quad . ❤
My stone stock 85 Tri-Z topped out about where this one did in the video here , but once I got my Engine builder here in San Diego , the late Jim Pileggi involved and we Dyno tuned the engine after full port & polish, built custom pipe & redid terrible stock head squish band area ,it made 45 hp , and ran consistent 93-95 mph speeds as timed at sand drags out in Drag races at imperial sand dunes here in So -Cal . I still have it to this day and am it’s original owner , but it’s been unfortunately sitting now in my storage barn & needs some minor brake work now from sitting and I’m sure a full Carb cleanup & such to get back in operation again. I sure did have fun running with the Banshees up all the major hill climbs back in it’s hay-day though , and looking at some astonished faces when I won.!! Great memories.
@@crashalexander7232 Was re-geared for running Smaller diameter old school paddle tires slightly smaller than stock . If memory is correct I think it had 15 tooth counter shaft sprocket & 38 tooth rear at axle . Engine also ran a few rpm over stock limits as well …. Up to around 9800 rpm or maybe even 10,000 . We fully balanced Crank & flywheel, ran Wiseco piston , and with Jim’s stage “3” porting & the pipe we built it transformed that thing , along with 38mm flat slide Mikuni Carburetor and modified Reed cage from I believe a Yamaha YZ 490 . When it came on the pipe , IT CAME ON THE PIPE!! 😉. Three wheelers at 90 plus mph are pretty damn scary to hang onto & I got pitched off a few times & still have the scars to prove it , on legs & right arm from broken bones & such . One of my favorite things to do back in those crazy days before I got married & had kids was to jump the Osborne overlook road out at Glamis dunes along with a couple others . We would set up spotters to direct / detect traffic & would hit the crossing around 50-60 mph and launch probably 15-20 feet into the air for over 65 feet long to land on a nice downhill dune on other side to cheers from on-lookers. I completely destroyed my rear shock on one such landing completely ripping out its internals and blowing the reservoir hose & reservoir clean off the bike . To say my buddies & I were a bit nuts would have been an understatement back then.
3,250r- 1 ,triz rode it handful of times it started to implode on itself. And my buddy had tecate. Nice bikes all of um but I'm more of Honda than any thing.
Me TOO ... ! ALL THREE OF THESE WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST ... ! AND I TOO , WISHED THAT SUZUKI WOULD HAVE MADE A TWO STROKE 250 CC THREE WHEELER TO COMPETE WITH THESE ... ! THERE IS ONE OFTEN FORGOTTEN "SECONDARY BREED " OF TWO STROKE HIGH SUSPENSION RACING / SPORT THREE WHEELER THOUGH ... THAT COULD AND WOULD OUTRUN ALL THREE OF THESE AWESOME TRIKES ... AND THAT IS THE MIGHTY TIGER 500 . ( ACTUALLY ONLY A 482 CC AIR COOLED ROTAX ENGINE ) ... BUT STILL ... WAS THE " KING TRIKE " OF ALL OF THESE. JUST LIKE THE SUZUKI QUADRACER 500 " QUADZILLA " ... IS THE " KING QUAD " OF ALL TWO STROKE QUADS BACK THEN TOO. I ALSO WISHED HONDA , YAMAHA AND KAWASAKI WOULD HAVE ALL MADE A 500 CC TWO STROKE RACING / SPORT QUAD BACK THEN TOO ... ! AS I ALWAYS HAVE HAD AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE MUTUAL / EQUAL RESPECT AND LOVE FOR ALL FOUR OF THE " BIG - NAME " BRANDS OF ATVS / BIKES ... SUZUKI , HONDA , YAMAHA , AND KAWASAKI ... ! 500 CC LIQUID COOLED 2 STROKE ENGINES IN RACING / SPORT THREE WHEELERS ( FROM THE FACTORIES ) ... WOULD HAVE BEEN SOO AWESOME TOO ... ! BUT NOOOOOOOOO ... ! THREE WHEELERS WERE TOO UNSTABLE AND TOO DANGEROUS ! 😮😅😮😅 ( ONLY ACCORDING TO WUSS -PUSS PEOPLE AND NON - SKILLED RIDERS AND BIASED NON - EDUCATED GOVERNMENT BEAUROCRATS / POLITICIANS ) OF COURSE ... !
Hi guys, I've just come across your channel nice to vid really nice to see the old school trikes,more please. I'm in Wales, UK and Im lucky to own 2 of these 1985 yamaha tri-z 250. First one i had when i was 12 in mid 90s and second one i bought in 2005. There getting harder to come by over here
The ole blue seat alone brings back so many memories, got a 80 dirt bike when I was 8 yr old, by 9 I had a 50 , lol my clutch progression was slow at first and very painful and my dad had to pat for the wooden fence I tried to use for brakes, didnt work
Awesome video brings back so many memories grew up in northern pa and we rode hard me and my buddies have the scars to prove it lol great job keep the videos coming
I had an 85 tri-z 250. If you removed the wheels and put them back on the opposite way. Just turned around, you gained 2 Inches width on both sides. 4 inches wider. Might have even been more the rims were offset just for that purpose. How many Yamaha owners actually knew that. It was the fastest of the 3, top speed wise. But the 250r was the best looking by far and the tecate' was the sketches to ride. Damn do I miss my teen yrs. All the fun with none of today's drama. Had like 5 channels on the TV and had to rotate a dial for every number on the phone. And those dam busy signals. You could call the operator and tell them you needed to make an emergency break through. They would somehow get on the busynline and tell them that so and so was trying to reach the. And it was an emergency. Wow watching this vid allowed my brain to recall something I would've never recalled for rest of my life. Thanks guys
I had the yellow & black Tri-z, loved that thing! So much fun! I feel old hearing you say vintage, lol. Man your collection looks like childhood buddies parked at your garage
@@TheMapleDude1 Right on man! Congrats on them, you have some beautiful machines! I have a collection myself but they’re all modern. Rzr xp, Husky TE300 2stroke, couple sportsman’s for me & the kids, a few smaller KTM 2strokes that my boy races, & a few TTR’s they ride in the woods. I still love my 2strokes, easier to rebuild & so much fun in the woods. I doubt any of them will go up in value though like these
@@TheMapleDude1 now you got me thinking! Google maps says we are only 2 hours and 5 minutes away from each other. Maybe we could set something up in the spring? I’d come down to do that if you’d like to. Let me know what you think about it.
I had a Honda 1986 350X four stroke & my buddy had a Kawasaki 250 two stroke "same years", through the gears he could get me but top end my 350X would walk away from him. What great memories. Thanks for the video.
@ Well I'm afraid it did, not by a lot but 1st through around 3rd or 4th he would get me by a half a bike length but after that my 350 would walk away from him. And that happened time & time again. And yes my 350 was completely stock, he had some kinda loud ass pipe on his & he put little flat tracks tires on the back.
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@@scottyellis3442 Well you see now, facts come out. And trust me, I have more miles on a 350x than most people have on their cars. The reason you believe your initial comment is because what you stated in your last comment. You stated the Tecate had tiny little tires on the back (likely flat tracks). Well, that is the only explanation as to why a 350x would take a properly running Tecate at all, especially in the top end as the flat tracks destroy top end speed. However, that’s where your story falls apart further, if the Tecate did indeed have flat tracks on, he would have DESTROYED your 350x out of the hole unlike your story of a few feet. Anyway, memories can be quite foggy after a few decades have passed.
Glad to see you guys having fun with those machines and not letting them sit like restored monuments, Reminds me of my '84 Tecate I got new, guy showed up at our riding spot with a tricked out one, same year, mine is bone stock. did 3 out pf 3 races, they were dead even, he was pissed.
Early 90s I had the Honda 250r. Built to race with all the toys. I used to drive a woods racer budy of mine nuts on his modified CR 500 that he use to race with. I couldn't pass him in the woods but I could easily stay right behind him. Also had a beautiful 350x...wish I had kept em both
@@TheMapleDude1stock for stock,a 350x won't run with a 250r flat out but on the trails with its fat torque curve,the 250r would probably struggle a bit to keep up.
I had the Honda last year of the air cooled used to laugh about people saying they were dangerous - then one day the thing flipped over on the left and handlebar stabbed me in the ass bent the axle ect fixed it up and someone stole it , I loved that 3wheeler
I'm in South Georgia and there is a 250R a guy is selling about 30 mins from me in Excellent condition, looks almost new for 7200. It's an 87. Great Video
My pops is coming town next week for the holidays, i'm gonna make him watch your vids -we did these same things 25 yrs ago in rural Iowa, him on a Warrior and me on my LT250R. Thanks for the content, guys!
Awsome video.. miss both of my 200x. Should of never got fid of them. Would love to find another one. Really would like to get ahold of a 350x but i can never find one for the right price
Greetings from Taylor county. If you ever make it up by Medford we have a whole bunch of people with a pile of 3 wheelers. We usually do a few of trike only rides every year.
Hello from MN. Nice trike line up. Had both not the tri z tho. My 85R has the 350pv kit. If I hear that up it will hit over 90 with 20’s. That’s pretty cold. Might want to bump jetting up on those cold Wisconsin pulls.
Miss all my old 250R's as owned 5 and built them all up. My last was my 89 which was really a 330 because it was a stroker motor with long rod and spacer plus larger carb with tunable LRD pipe and muffler all on a Laeger custom frame. Did alot of semi pro racing ans even was sponsored up until broke my neck.. Would give anything to own another but prices are beyond insane.
@@leadboots72 but we are talking trikes here so ........one would assume he is talking 3 wheeler....which in fact were made until 1988 just not sold in USA after 86.
Thanks for the video guys! The Kawasaki is definitely Lein though. The idle hangs. Put some more fuel in it and it might do better and probably be easier to start. If it's just pilot you might get it with the fuel screw. 👍
look for a crack in the boot between the carb and head or the bolts are loose from the gasket shrinking. its sucking air after the carb. spray ether around the boot to be sure. idling high after cracking the throttle isnt just lean jetting.@@TheMapleDude1
The carb needle also should have notches and is probably set too low. Move one up. Ski has the right idea, replace the intake manifold and check the reeds at any sign of cracking. 84 KXT, rocking the fat drum front.
I was thinking the same thing Carb or Air leak that thing didn't want to IDLE down. When NEW I thought the Tecate was the faster machine just handled like crap.
What I love best about the Honda is when your foot slips off the kicker and that prick slams back into your shin. Makes for an awesome start to your day of riding
I bought an 86 250R brand new off the showroom floor. Wish I never sold it . Mint condition $500 when nobody would buy one. State Police said mine went 69MPH not sure if I was wide open yet but definitely headed in that direction.🤔
Who else had a tri z 250 with the quad conversion on it? When 3 wheelers started getting banded in the 80's there was a company that made a conversion kit.
@TheMapleDude1 mine had Suzuki quadracer front fenders on it. Not sure if that's hie they came. I bought it from my brother in law. Kinda wish I still had it. It'll probably be a collector piece one day. Lol
Fella's I love your content. Honest evals, thank-you, keep em coming. I'd like to give you advice on starting 2 strokes, it seems you kick a lot when cold. I have big bore's 500cc bikes and a Quadzilla. On 500cc bikes, you turn fuel on, lean it over until a little fuel drips from carb vent hose. The chokes just don't work well on a cold start. So by leaning it over, you also spill some fuel into the carb throat. Then with throttle off, choke and ignition on, you "sissy" kick them. Not trying to start yet, just push the kicker from top to bottom, nice and easy (to get the fuel in the chamber). About the 6th or 7th sissy kick it will go phew out the exhaust. This tells you the fuel air mix is perfect now in chamber. Next is a full hard kick, it should start. Once you know what the bike wants (every engine is a little different), it went phew on #6, next cold start give a full hard kick on #6. I would try this on your 3 wheelers, easy to lean them over. BTW, can achieve same results by blowing into the carb vent hose, for a 4 wheeler that's hard to lean over. Hey test some dirt bikes also, old 2 strokes against new 4 strokes.
Back in 2017 someone stole my 1986 ATC250SX it was in rough shape but ran like it was new... it had a super trap pipe and a aftermarket rear rack cracked plastic rear and front and a trailer hitch. It was taken by Cambridge Minnesota... 😢 my dad helped me buy it brand new back in 86... oh and it had a plastic aftermarket gas tank. I really miss that trike.
@@TheMapleDude1 just happened to stumble onto One of your videos where you do the top speeds of the Tri-Z, 250R, and tecate which was very interesting When we were kids back then everyone said that a 250R would do 90 and a 200x would do 70 and it's funny because it was" common knowledge" to all of us how wrong we were 😄 FYI I just subscribed and forwarded your link to a couple other people I thought might do the same
I love your videos. Hope I can do this for my son when he gets old enough!! we won’t have all those bikes, but just to be able to ride with my son would be great.
Now those are nice tricks I was 12 years old when they came out the older kids in the neighborhood had them I never had one but I rode a few now I'm an adult I almost wish I had one now
Oh, that brings back memories of wobbling front tires at high speeds on three wheelers and just getting dumped off of it because the front end wouldn’t shake the wobble. lol. Imo that is why the 3 wheelers are no more.
Bought an ‘85 Tri-Z in ‘88. It was blown up so I took it to the dealer, dropped it off and said, I’m headed back to Germany, if it needs it do it, let my dad know whenever your finished, no hurry. When my mom actually picked it up, he came riding around the corner and mom said to him, wth? Is he gonna get hurt on that thing? The guy said, we had to bore it out .30 over, had a little trouble with the carb so it’s gone be rich till after break in. We’re thinking it may hit 80? Man it had to be close. Scariest thing I’ve ever ridden… not because it was fast, because of how fast it got there…..😅
Best comparing video you have done yet What’s the chance of having all three of these bikes together to do this video is something to be said right off the bat and other than the FMF on the Honda you couldn’t get it any closer and I wouldn’t have looked for stock exhaust for the difference I might have looked for racing exhaust for the two that didn’t have it if I could have afforded it but then what’s the chances of finding it for a few of these rare bikes Probably slim if you were in a hurry
I never understood why these things got "banned" (I know it wasn't really a ban it was a manufacturer's agreement). They should have just made a licensing program for them, as they should all ATVs and dirt bikes. Starting with training courses for kids on mini bikes, and graduated licenses for different machines. If they actually wanted to help with injuries that would have actually done something. Bobby government would prefer to outright get rid of them because it's exhort more power
I had a 1985 Honda 250r and a 1986 four trax 250r with a cr500 engine . The 250r had more top end than the 500 because of the 6 th gear . The 250r engine was a lot smoother running than the 500 . I liked riding the 250r better than the four trax . It would wheelie going down a dune wall .
I had a 86 250r with spacers on the rear axle, that was the most fun machine ever, I'm still kicking myself for selling it. I went to the sand dunes one time and was absolutely destroying everyone that tried to drag race me, that thing was so fast it was almost unbelievable.
They are a blast!
I had the same one….with turf tampers on the back….was a blast…
Sold my stretched 85 a month ago. It now feels like a loss in the family. I was racing a friend’s turbo Razor and on the sand I got it up to 74 mph. Plenty fast enough to die. A chance we cheerfully take. Merry Christmas to all!
I think your speedometer is off the tecate should do 84 out of the box
I've had a few myself and wish I kept everyone of them
The greatest three wheeler ad ever: The centerfold ad Honda ran in 1985. A shadowed silhouette atop a hill with the text "What to see what the other guys want to build for 1986?" Fold it out for the full color view and the text "The 1985 Honda ATC250R".
Kawasaki and Yamaha did exactly that, but could never match it.
What was even more amazing than the racing record of the ATC250R was the racing record of it's successor, the TRX250R. That machine was still winning a decade after the last one had rolled off the assembly line. It took the sanctioning bodies limiting the age of vehicles eligible for participation to clear the way for the modern 4 strokes to finally take over all the different series.
It was the golden age for ATVs!
Had that on my wall as a kid Got Every Dirt wheels and 3 wheeler action unfortunately threw them out when I moved out in 96 from home always wanted a 250R or 350x had a 85 200x that was built
Im 47 and grew up riding them. Wish they still made them. Ive owned almost every model ever made at some point or another. My favorites were my '86 250R and my '85 350X. I would love a 2024 1000XX 3-Wheel Drive! 😂
I hear you... we about the same age.
You guys ever hear the Story that Honda was going to build an Atc 500 but one of the riders testing it crashed and died so Honda Shelved it. I know I read it somewhere years ago
I still have my 85 kxt 250 tecate. Im am the original owner and the engine is still on the original top end. Its never been opened up. Only mod is a full dg pipe and jetted thats it.
Its been a couple years since i started it but i bet it fires in 3 kicks still. Baddest 3 wheeler ever made used to run circles around by buddies 86 suzuki 250 quad racer.
Oh and the tecate would have beat them all if it had that 6th gear, just saying.
Right I agree, why no 6th gear on that??
@@TheMapleDude1The 84-85 KXTecate had essentially the 82-83 KX transplant case, with a few different parts. I've drug a banshee and kept up till the top of fifth.
Great video! Thank you for this comparison and love your channel. Classic collector here from New Hampshire and now Vermont. Keep that Maple Syrup flowing and the Classic wheelers going!
Oh boy you're a rare one who enjoys both of those!
I've rode the tri z. Had a 250r. Never got a chance for the tecate. Love seeing these side by side and running. Great memories.
Thanks brother.
You have an amazing collection takes me back thanks
Thanks for watching!
I love this video.
I'm 63 yrs old now but in 1985 I bought the Kawasaki Tecate 250 brand new. That thing was a rocket.
My friend from school bought the 1985 Honda 250 R at the same time. It was a rocket as well.
We used to drag race these machines and my Tecate got a 1 1/2 trike lead at the start and then we just held that position right to top speed. He couldn't gain and I couldn't pull more lead.
In 1976 I was 16 yrs old and used to buy a brand new bike every year with my holiday pay from work until the mid 80's.
I own many Can Am's , Kawasaki's and one Yamaha (TY175 trials which was used).
Wish I still had those machines because some would be worth some money now, especially the 1977 Can Am MX3 175 pumpkin.
Side note:
You have an air leak on that Kawasaki and you are going to melt a piston.
I have a lot of experience with this and have melted more than half a dozen pistons on my 3 Honda FL350's that I own.
Cracked intake boot or base gasket leak.
You have been warned.
Oh I am aware the idle does hang some... and I've replaced the intake gaskets I know they are good. The boot also looked fine. I've never heard of it being a cylinder base gasket, though.
@@TheMapleDude1 It could also be a crankshaft seal gone which is more like the case here since you say nothing seems obvious. Had that happen on my Honda FL350's as well.
yea my dad bought one new in the day and said all the gears the front wheel would come up, very hard bike to handle. I'd say this bike has lost most of it's power Tecate should of took 1st.
@swiftlyswiv8227 power is good on the T3. the 250r has mods.
Subbed! Great video dudes. Love three wheelers and appreciate the quality speed comparison.
Thanks brother!
I had a Yamaha 200 with flat whoolly boogers. Was a blast in snow. Drifting back roads in the rain.😂🍻
Great times!
before i had to sell my mint 85 250R, i really wanted to just pickle it in grease and save it forever, suspecting i would later regret selling it. and yep, always have.
sometimes dream that i'm still riding it, and i have always had nice MX bikes both before and after the ATC250R... shows ya that thing was just special.
i can't believe how many rigs you guys have!
All these are classics I dreamed of when I was a kid. I never had them when I was young.
Great video. Makes me happy. I rode all of those back in the day. 😁
Thanks man.
I had a Yamaha Yellow 1984 Tri-Z 250 and my buddies 250R was always faster at the top end but I could take him in the short. Another friend had the Tecate. So much fun. Awesome machines and you have to say the Tri-Z may have been the coolest of the bunch.
I totally agree... the Tri Z is the coolest by far!!
Always nice to see these 3 together. Too bad Suzuki never made an ALT250R 3-wheeler, but it looks like Quadzilla is in a league of its own at 82 mph. I see that This Old Trike got his slightly modified 1985 ATC350X up to 65 mph. Merry Christmas to TMD and Jack, and thanks for the videos!!
Merry Christmas cobra! As always thanks for watching and commenting!
If you want your 65 miles per hour trike to do 75, 80 , or more all that is necessary is small axle sprocket and /or larger output shaft sprocket. I.E. , change final gear ratio.
LTR500 Rattled itself apart and always broke constantly. Was definitely a beast 𝙉𝙊𝙏 everyone could ride or handle but my LoneStar Banshee smoked them easily.
@@harrypalmer291 yes
@@harrypalmer291And a 2 mile straightaway to finally get it there.
Love it. Thanks Brother. Just seeing those beautiful machines all together and running still is flashback to the good ole days. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Merry Christmas, steve!
Absolutely beautiful collection yall got there. Kudos
Thanks brother.
I enjoy your video bring back memories, I had a used 1985 Honda 250R and it was pretty fast until a old pro dirt bike racer rebuild it and turn it into a killer quad . ❤
Appreciate it thanks for watching! Those were the days.
Congratulations, nice pilot, you got amasings machines. Excelent video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
Glad Jacks foot is better he's killin it! Thanks for the videos Merry Christmas
Thank you and merry Christmas.
My stone stock 85 Tri-Z topped out about where this one did in the video here , but once I got my Engine builder here in San Diego , the late Jim Pileggi involved and we Dyno tuned the engine after full port & polish, built custom pipe & redid terrible stock head squish band area ,it made 45 hp , and ran consistent 93-95 mph speeds as timed at sand drags out in Drag races at imperial sand dunes here in So -Cal . I still have it to this day and am it’s original owner , but it’s been unfortunately sitting now in my storage barn & needs some minor brake work now from sitting and I’m sure a full Carb cleanup & such to get back in operation again. I sure did have fun running with the Banshees up all the major hill climbs back in it’s hay-day though , and looking at some astonished faces when I won.!! Great memories.
Get it back out and bring it back to life. Sounds awesome!
what gearing did you use ...stock sprockets would never get 90 mph...lol
@@crashalexander7232 Was re-geared for running Smaller diameter old school paddle tires slightly smaller than stock . If memory is correct I think it had 15 tooth counter shaft sprocket & 38 tooth rear at axle . Engine also ran a few rpm over stock limits as well …. Up to around 9800 rpm or maybe even 10,000 . We fully balanced Crank & flywheel, ran Wiseco piston , and with Jim’s stage “3” porting & the pipe we built it transformed that thing , along with 38mm flat slide Mikuni Carburetor and modified Reed cage from I believe a Yamaha YZ 490 . When it came on the pipe , IT CAME ON THE PIPE!! 😉. Three wheelers at 90 plus mph are pretty damn scary to hang onto & I got pitched off a few times & still have the scars to prove it , on legs & right arm from broken bones & such . One of my favorite things to do back in those crazy days before I got married & had kids was to jump the Osborne overlook road out at Glamis dunes along with a couple others . We would set up spotters to direct / detect traffic & would hit the crossing around 50-60 mph and launch probably 15-20 feet into the air for over 65 feet long to land on a nice downhill dune on other side to cheers from on-lookers. I completely destroyed my rear shock on one such landing completely ripping out its internals and blowing the reservoir hose & reservoir clean off the bike . To say my buddies & I were a bit nuts would have been an understatement back then.
My Trix did 90 as well ported polish 85 with 86 carb and timing noise teeds donuts of and circumference 200 ft across donuts in fifth gear
@@maxmotta1200 put down the meth pipe bro ...lol
Born in 1974 so these bikes were my dream back in the day....
Im right there with you!
3,250r- 1 ,triz rode it handful of times it started to implode on itself. And my buddy had tecate. Nice bikes all of um but I'm more of Honda than any thing.
Me TOO ... !
ALL THREE OF THESE WERE THE BEST OF THE BEST ... !
AND I TOO ,
WISHED THAT SUZUKI WOULD HAVE MADE A TWO STROKE
250 CC THREE WHEELER TO COMPETE WITH THESE ... !
THERE IS ONE OFTEN FORGOTTEN
"SECONDARY BREED "
OF TWO STROKE HIGH SUSPENSION RACING / SPORT THREE WHEELER THOUGH ...
THAT COULD AND WOULD OUTRUN ALL THREE OF THESE AWESOME TRIKES ...
AND
THAT IS THE MIGHTY
TIGER 500 .
( ACTUALLY ONLY A 482 CC
AIR COOLED ROTAX ENGINE ) ...
BUT STILL ...
WAS THE " KING TRIKE "
OF ALL OF THESE.
JUST LIKE THE SUZUKI QUADRACER 500 " QUADZILLA " ...
IS THE " KING QUAD " OF ALL
TWO STROKE QUADS BACK THEN TOO.
I ALSO WISHED HONDA , YAMAHA AND KAWASAKI WOULD HAVE ALL MADE A 500 CC TWO STROKE
RACING / SPORT QUAD BACK THEN TOO ... !
AS I ALWAYS HAVE HAD AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE
MUTUAL / EQUAL RESPECT AND LOVE FOR ALL FOUR OF THE
" BIG - NAME " BRANDS OF ATVS / BIKES ...
SUZUKI , HONDA , YAMAHA , AND KAWASAKI ... !
500 CC LIQUID COOLED 2 STROKE ENGINES IN RACING / SPORT
THREE WHEELERS
( FROM THE FACTORIES ) ...
WOULD HAVE BEEN SOO AWESOME TOO ... !
BUT
NOOOOOOOOO ... !
THREE WHEELERS WERE TOO UNSTABLE AND TOO DANGEROUS !
😮😅😮😅
( ONLY ACCORDING TO
WUSS -PUSS PEOPLE AND
NON - SKILLED RIDERS AND BIASED NON - EDUCATED GOVERNMENT
BEAUROCRATS / POLITICIANS )
OF COURSE ... !
Growing up I had a few 3 wheelers. A 200X, 250R and a 350X. The 350X was my favorite. It was the best in the snow and my favorite
Overall great machines!
Hi guys, I've just come across your channel nice to vid really nice to see the old school trikes,more please. I'm in Wales, UK and Im lucky to own 2 of these 1985 yamaha tri-z 250. First one i had when i was 12 in mid 90s and second one i bought in 2005. There getting harder to come by over here
Wow amazing that you have them. Cause you rarely see them in my area.
The ole blue seat alone brings back so many memories, got a 80 dirt bike when I was 8 yr old, by 9 I had a 50 , lol my clutch progression was slow at first and very painful and my dad had to pat for the wooden fence I tried to use for brakes, didnt work
These machines bring back memories of a great time to grow up.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Nice machines.
Thanks brother!
We finally got snow in Northern Maine the other day and so far it has stayed
None here yet.
Love your videos especially the father and son time together
Thanks Greg!
Haven’t seen a running 3 wheeler except the one on the ranch I worked on in the 80’s. 😂
They still out there!
Awesome video brings back so many memories grew up in northern pa and we rode hard me and my buddies have the scars to prove it lol great job keep the videos coming
Thanks Earl. We are keeping it alive!
I had an 85 tri-z 250. If you removed the wheels and put them back on the opposite way. Just turned around, you gained 2 Inches width on both sides. 4 inches wider. Might have even been more the rims were offset just for that purpose. How many Yamaha owners actually knew that. It was the fastest of the 3, top speed wise. But the 250r was the best looking by far and the tecate' was the sketches to ride. Damn do I miss my teen yrs. All the fun with none of today's drama. Had like 5 channels on the TV and had to rotate a dial for every number on the phone. And those dam busy signals. You could call the operator and tell them you needed to make an emergency break through. They would somehow get on the busynline and tell them that so and so was trying to reach the. And it was an emergency. Wow watching this vid allowed my brain to recall something I would've never recalled for rest of my life. Thanks guys
Those were the best days man. These machines take me back to a better time. I hear everything you just said.
What an awesome collection man
Thanks brother.
I gps’d my 85 250r years ago when it had only a pipe/jetting and hit….. exactly the same top speed as you guys did. Loving your guys content 🙂
Nice! Thanks for watching +
you know someone lives in really cold country when they say its not that cold: it's 34 degrees....
good vid nice trikes.
True
Great content...wish I had this with my son
Thanks for watching brother!
I owned a 1984 and 1986 Tecate, loved the way I could jump it from Glamis dunes. Really fun bike.
Crazy trikes!
Love your collection
Thanks man.
I had the yellow & black Tri-z, loved that thing! So much fun! I feel old hearing you say vintage, lol. Man your collection looks like childhood buddies parked at your garage
Well it was my childhood dream. It took me a long time to get to this point!
@@TheMapleDude1 Right on man! Congrats on them, you have some beautiful machines! I have a collection myself but they’re all modern. Rzr xp, Husky TE300 2stroke, couple sportsman’s for me & the kids, a few smaller KTM 2strokes that my boy races, & a few TTR’s they ride in the woods. I still love my 2strokes, easier to rebuild & so much fun in the woods. I doubt any of them will go up in value though like these
Great video!
Thanks
Awesome videos guys! Subscribed.
Greetings from Northen (Woodruff) Wisconsin!
Thanks! What do you ride??
@@TheMapleDude1 ‘23 Can Am Renegade 1000 XMR.
@thenarrowpathatvchannel4316 might be fun to do a video of these old school vs that monster.
@@TheMapleDude1 now you got me thinking! Google maps says we are only 2 hours and 5 minutes away from each other. Maybe we could set something up in the spring? I’d come down to do that if you’d like to. Let me know what you think about it.
@@thenarrowpathatvchannel4316
email me at tim@themapledude.com
we should be able to at some point.
Awesome collection, wish I had that
It took a long time to do it.
I had a Honda 1986 350X four stroke & my buddy had a Kawasaki 250 two stroke "same years", through the gears he could get me but top end my 350X would walk away from him.
What great memories. Thanks for the video.
I had a 86 350x aswell. Put a FTZ alcohol carb on it. And i could run with the 2 strokes. 😊
I have an 85 350x, I like the 86 look better.
No it wouldn’t, not if your 350x was stock anyway.
@
Well I'm afraid it did, not by a lot but 1st through around 3rd or 4th he would get me by a half a bike length but after that my 350 would walk away from him.
And that happened time & time again. And yes my 350 was completely stock, he had some kinda loud ass pipe on his & he put little flat tracks tires on the back.
@@scottyellis3442 Well you see now, facts come out. And trust me, I have more miles on a 350x than most people have on their cars.
The reason you believe your initial comment is because what you stated in your last comment. You stated the Tecate had tiny little tires on the back (likely flat tracks). Well, that is the only explanation as to why a 350x would take a properly running Tecate at all, especially in the top end as the flat tracks destroy top end speed.
However, that’s where your story falls apart further, if the Tecate did indeed have flat tracks on, he would have DESTROYED your 350x out of the hole unlike your story of a few feet.
Anyway, memories can be quite foggy after a few decades have passed.
Do some more of these that was pretty cool
We will.
I grew up racing gncc mx and flat track. So i had all kinds of bikes. Anyway, my neighbor had the tecate and that thing was a rocket ship.
It's a crazy machine. Not easy to ride.
My 1985 CR250 topped out about 75 mph crazy that the 250r was almost the same Honda made the best of the 80’s
Yeah definitely impressed.
Glad to see you guys having fun with those machines and not letting them sit like restored monuments, Reminds me of my '84 Tecate I got new, guy showed up at our riding spot with a tricked out one, same year, mine is bone stock. did 3 out pf 3 races, they were dead even, he was pissed.
That's awesome! I'd kind of like one of those 1sr generation tecates!
Awesome video
Thanks brother!
My kids still ride an '88 tecate 4. I saw one in your toy box. Looking forward to seeing some more good races
Oh nice you have an 88, more rare than the 87 T4 we have.
You haven't lived until your foot slips off the foot peg. And the back tire pulls your boot off, and you get rubber rash on your ankle. ❤
I hear you. Ben there.
i love all the wheelers but man that ATC and Tri z are sick!
You know it easy money!
Early 90s I had the Honda 250r. Built to race with all the toys. I used to drive a woods racer budy of mine nuts on his modified CR 500 that he use to race with. I couldn't pass him in the woods but I could easily stay right behind him.
Also had a beautiful 350x...wish I had kept em both
We have a 350x too. I should race it with the R.
@@TheMapleDude1stock for stock,a 350x won't run with a 250r flat out but on the trails with its fat torque curve,the 250r would probably struggle a bit to keep up.
I had the Honda last year of the air cooled used to laugh about people saying they were dangerous - then one day the thing flipped over on the left and handlebar stabbed me in the ass bent the axle ect fixed it up and someone stole it , I loved that 3wheeler
Hey I love 3 wheelers too... but they ain't exactly well thought out machines.
I'm in South Georgia and there is a 250R a guy is selling about 30 mins from me in Excellent condition, looks almost new for 7200. It's an 87. Great Video
That's not a terrible price
All you need now is an '86 Suzuki QuadRacer. This machine belongs in this group and Suzuki deserves the credit for going in this direction.
We have one.
Merry Christmas to TMD and family. Go get warm!👍
Merry Christmas!
My pops is coming town next week for the holidays, i'm gonna make him watch your vids -we did these same things 25 yrs ago in rural Iowa, him on a Warrior and me on my LT250R. Thanks for the content, guys!
Thanks creek. Merry Christmas to you and your dad!
Nice collection
Thanks brother!
Brings back great memories thanks so much for doing these vids. Oh ignore the negatrons they just live to complain.
Yeah thanks. You're right you'll always have those guys.
Awsome video.. miss both of my 200x. Should of never got fid of them. Would love to find another one. Really would like to get ahold of a 350x but i can never find one for the right price
They are all getting stupid expensive.
Greetings from Taylor county. If you ever make it up by Medford we have a whole bunch of people with a pile of 3 wheelers. We usually do a few of trike only rides every year.
That would be cool.
Nice seeing the three of them together. Nice collection
Thanks brother!
Hello from MN. Nice trike line up. Had both not the tri z tho. My 85R has the 350pv kit. If I hear that up it will hit over 90 with 20’s. That’s pretty cold. Might want to bump jetting up on those cold Wisconsin pulls.
I know, we rarely ride it the winter. And I think they were all somewhat rich anyway. Well except for the T3.
Great video! I’m curious why you changed to a thumb throttle on the Kawasaki
I can't ride trails with a twist throttle.
Dang y’all got some sweet machines!!❤️
Thanks man!
@@TheMapleDude1 miss my lt250❤️. Good times!!
Nw Iowa here same weather. Grew up on the east side of Iowa was just over to Beaver dam for mercury school. Great collection!!
@steveturner5287 thanks appreciate it.
I remember when these machines were new... Top of the heap for the time.. all 3 machines
The big bad 3!
Miss all my old 250R's as owned 5 and built them all up. My last was my 89 which was really a 330 because it was a stroker motor with long rod and spacer plus larger carb with tunable LRD pipe and muffler all on a Laeger custom frame. Did alot of semi pro racing ans even was sponsored up until broke my neck.. Would give anything to own another but prices are beyond insane.
Sounds like a bad machine! Yeah the 250r is getting so expensive!
They quit making them in 1986 bud, would have loved to see them keep going.
He might be talking about the 250R quads. They were still sold in 89
@@leadboots72 but we are talking trikes here so ........one would assume he is talking 3 wheeler....which in fact were made until 1988 just not sold in USA after 86.
My 85 350X also topped out at 65mph.So I went down 4 teeth on the rear sprocket and that got it to 75mph.
That's a lot to teeth.
Thanks for the video guys! The Kawasaki is definitely Lein though. The idle hangs. Put some more fuel in it and it might do better and probably be easier to start. If it's just pilot you might get it with the fuel screw. 👍
Yes it does... but the thing is this is the stock carb and they had no air screw. So they are hard to tune.
look for a crack in the boot between the carb and head or the bolts are loose from the gasket shrinking. its sucking air after the carb. spray ether around the boot to be sure. idling high after cracking the throttle isnt just lean jetting.@@TheMapleDude1
The carb needle also should have notches and is probably set too low. Move one up. Ski has the right idea, replace the intake manifold and check the reeds at any sign of cracking. 84 KXT, rocking the fat drum front.
I was thinking the same thing Carb or Air leak that thing didn't want to IDLE down. When NEW I thought the Tecate was the faster machine just handled like crap.
Reeds are basically new and so are the gaskets. Intake is what was on it when I got it, but it looked OK. I'll try the spray ether.
What I love best about the Honda is when your foot slips off the kicker and that prick slams back into your shin. Makes for an awesome start to your day of riding
Ouch!!
I bought an 86 250R brand new off the showroom floor. Wish I never sold it . Mint condition $500 when nobody would buy one. State Police said mine went 69MPH not sure if I was wide open yet but definitely headed in that direction.🤔
Thanks for telling what you remembered happening!
Who else had a tri z 250 with the quad conversion on it?
When 3 wheelers started getting banded in the 80's there was a company that made a conversion kit.
That's a cool bit of info.
@TheMapleDude1 mine had Suzuki quadracer front fenders on it. Not sure if that's hie they came. I bought it from my brother in law. Kinda wish I still had it. It'll probably be a collector piece one day. Lol
Fella's I love your content. Honest evals, thank-you, keep em coming. I'd like to give you advice on starting 2 strokes, it seems you kick a lot when cold. I have big bore's 500cc bikes and a Quadzilla. On 500cc bikes, you turn fuel on, lean it over until a little fuel drips from carb vent hose. The chokes just don't work well on a cold start. So by leaning it over, you also spill some fuel into the carb throat. Then with throttle off, choke and ignition on, you "sissy" kick them. Not trying to start yet, just push the kicker from top to bottom, nice and easy (to get the fuel in the chamber). About the 6th or 7th sissy kick it will go phew out the exhaust. This tells you the fuel air mix is perfect now in chamber. Next is a full hard kick, it should start. Once you know what the bike wants (every engine is a little different), it went phew on #6, next cold start give a full hard kick on #6. I would try this on your 3 wheelers, easy to lean them over. BTW, can achieve same results by blowing into the carb vent hose, for a 4 wheeler that's hard to lean over. Hey test some dirt bikes also, old 2 strokes against new 4 strokes.
Thanks for watching... we really appreciate it. And thanks for the tips on cold start!
Beautiful machine's by the way.
Thanks man!
Back in 2017 someone stole my 1986 ATC250SX it was in rough shape but ran like it was new... it had a super trap pipe and a aftermarket rear rack cracked plastic rear and front and a trailer hitch. It was taken by Cambridge Minnesota... 😢 my dad helped me buy it brand new back in 86... oh and it had a plastic aftermarket gas tank. I really miss that trike.
That stinks... there are so many memories with these machines.
Love to see these machines in action true Apex predators of the '80s ATV world 🦾
Yes it was a great time to be alive!
@@TheMapleDude1 just happened to stumble onto One of your videos where you do the top speeds of the Tri-Z, 250R, and tecate which was very interesting When we were kids back then everyone said that a 250R would do 90 and a 200x would do 70 and it's funny because it was" common knowledge" to all of us how wrong we were 😄 FYI I just subscribed and forwarded your link to a couple other people I thought might do the same
@@pbruteforce1 thanks
👍2 clean 85 Tri-Z's hiding somewhere in my garage.👀
Sweet!
I’ve never seen a Kawasaki trike but it is SICK
It is! Rare!
I would love to buy any of them! I never see these machines where I live.
I had to look all over to find them.
@@TheMapleDude1
Nice ! I want the Tacate. Naim a price
Awesome!
Thanks
I love your videos. Hope I can do this for my son when he gets old enough!! we won’t have all those bikes, but just to be able to ride with my son would be great.
That's great man. Keep the tradition alive!
Keep em coming boys!
Thanks jeff!!
The super tri z was capable to 250r. Good video and still have my 86 250r. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks brother!
Great video guys!
Thank you sir!
Sounds dam good!
Thanks
there’s nothing like the smell of a two stroke on a cold morning 😏
Beautiful
We had a Honda ATC 250R it was a beast.
Great machines!
@TheMapleDude1 they sure were. The one's yall have are beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
I still have a 250r I got back in highschool, and recently found another, along with a quadzilla 500! I have had my 250r up close to 80mph
That's very impressive!
@@TheMapleDude1 indeed it is! Of course it's bored out, lots up upgrades
Now those are nice tricks I was 12 years old when they came out the older kids in the neighborhood had them I never had one but I rode a few now I'm an adult I almost wish I had one now
That was me, I never rode them until last few years.
@@TheMapleDude1 yes all I remember is holding on for dear life on the straight away lol
The only 3 wheelers I've ever wanted all in one shed.
Same here.
I had a 85 model Honda. First year of the water cooled. Fastest one hands down!
Could be.
@TheMapleDude1 I was clocked by Cobb Co police department at 110 mph I told them that was a lie it will only do 100
Oh, that brings back memories of wobbling front tires at high speeds on three wheelers and just getting dumped off of it because the front end wouldn’t shake the wobble. lol. Imo that is why the 3 wheelers are no more.
Good times, good memories!
Honda ATC 350 was a beast!!
We have one!
Bought an ‘85 Tri-Z in ‘88. It was blown up so I took it to the dealer, dropped it off and said, I’m headed back to Germany, if it needs it do it, let my dad know whenever your finished, no hurry. When my mom actually picked it up, he came riding around the corner and mom said to him, wth? Is he gonna get hurt on that thing? The guy said, we had to bore it out .30 over, had a little trouble with the carb so it’s gone be rich till after break in. We’re thinking it may hit 80? Man it had to be close. Scariest thing I’ve ever ridden… not because it was fast, because of how fast it got there…..😅
Sounds fun! Great story.
7:09 holy crap, I thought, for sure you fouled that plug. See the Kawasaki is already working the snot out of you. Pun intended.😂
It's a tough ride.
Best comparing video you have done yet
What’s the chance of having all three of these bikes together to do this video is something to be said right off the bat and other than the FMF on the Honda you couldn’t get it any closer and I wouldn’t have looked for stock exhaust for the difference
I might have looked for racing exhaust for the two that didn’t have it if I could have afforded it but then what’s the chances of finding it for a few of these rare bikes
Probably slim if you were in a hurry
I think thier are still aftermarket exhausts for those 2 but very pricey!
@@TheMapleDude1 I can’t even find aftermarket exhaust for a 91 LT 250R quad so I was just guessing the trikes were even harder
@@user-yn1kx2mn9i I think they are out there.
Did you guys make that tecate? I don't remember one with the radiator on the frame??
The 2nd generation 86 and 87 has that.
Kinda cringes to see it wide open for awhile. One thing about 2strokes… glad to see 3wheelers getting love . ❤️ love my 350x
Yeah I know.
I never understood why these things got "banned" (I know it wasn't really a ban it was a manufacturer's agreement). They should have just made a licensing program for them, as they should all ATVs and dirt bikes. Starting with training courses for kids on mini bikes, and graduated licenses for different machines. If they actually wanted to help with injuries that would have actually done something. Bobby government would prefer to outright get rid of them because it's exhort more power
I agree my friend.
3 badass trikes!!
Yeah man!
I had a 1985 Honda 250r and a 1986 four trax 250r with a cr500 engine . The 250r had more top end than the 500 because of the 6 th gear . The 250r engine was a lot smoother running than the 500 . I liked riding the 250r better than the four trax . It would wheelie going down a dune wall .
I would like to get to some dunes one day.
What we really need is a 1000ft drag race.
Ok.