Handle is Not leather wrapped. it's made with stacked leather washers. a very common design used on alot of U.S. Military Knives & Bayonets since the 1930's
Use the knife for a splitting wedge, something it was not designed for and destroy the knife and then get the company to send you a new knife to abuse. No wonder companys go out of bussiness. Buy an axe and use the right tool for the right job.
Yep, just like the Buck 119 ... all the broken 119's you see on the internet are the ones that were thrown at a tree, hit at the wrong angle, and snapped. Don't do that and the knife will treat you well for decades, but still these myths persist that it's a "bad knife" for bushcraft ... despite being effectively water-proof, with great steel, great spine for throwing sparks ...
Batoning knives through SMALL sticks for kindling purposes has been around forever. Small folders can handle this. What HASN'T been around forever is this entire stupid concept that if your belt knife isn't a massive, thick, full width tang knife that can build log cabins, fell giant hardwood trees, buck them, then baton them through rounds and rounds of logs then also slice tomatoes for your bush sammich then it's inferior, crap, and not a worthy "survival/bushcraft" knife. All of this madness is directly one man's fault on the internet....that NutsRFancy idiot. I still remember him saying years ago in his mind-numbingly dumb video "big knives don't suck" that "steel is stronger than wood which means steel should win everytime." 🤪🤪🤪 Even the old timers like Horace Kephart in his book stated that there are certain species of hardwoods that can have knots as hard as glass and that attempting to baton through such wood with a knife is insane and even attempting to chop through such woods with an axe was risky business and could chip out an axe edge! If you need or expect to chop and split wood...GET A F AXE/HATCHET! Really, how hard is it to throw even a small hatchet inside your pack? Maybe even add a small, lightweight folding saw. Now you're set for serious wood work without risking bending or snapping your only knife. Mind-blowing logic, huh?
So you beat a knife against its intended use and then have the company give you a new one? That is messed up. It is not meant to be an axe. Lifetime warranties are not meant to cover misuse which obviously occurred.
Great service but, on a knife that old I would have bought a new one myself. I don't believe I would have called Ontario CS belly-aching. You have more than got your money's worth out of that knife. Not being mean, but that's just my opinion.
If a company has a life time warranty and follows through with it, it only increases customers satisfaction and makes them more likely to recommend the product and company, in the end its win win for the consumer and the company, with ontario i would not hesitate to recommend them and the products i own as they take care of their customers no matter what, giving them a sense of security when purchasing.
I live in Winnipeg Manitoba. I get some of my knives from adventuregear.ca they are really good people and their Ontario knives are pretty cheap. I got my 498 and my SP-1 from them. They even emailed me to tell me that Ontario used MY SP-1 for their instagram picture.
Why did he baton with it? No knife ever (let alone a rat tail tang) should be use to baton. A froe is the only thing that should ever be used like that. Use the right tool for the right job.
I always batton with my rtak 2 but in this case it was an emergency we where 26 km in the bush and had to unexpectedly stay out due to heavy snow ,we where checking for pins marking the the edge of the land we just purchased at that time and a storm moved in and we had to spend the night, if I recall the next day we also got the snowmobile stuck in 7-10 feet of snow , it was a bunk couple days but that knife processed enough small pieces to get a fire going and thed we just piled on the deadfall, Ontario is a good company that takes great care of their customers id recommend them to anyone
Handle is Not leather wrapped. it's made with stacked leather washers. a very common design used on alot of U.S. Military Knives & Bayonets since the 1930's
Cool thanks for the info!
More like 3 knives. This being one of them
Use the knife for a splitting wedge, something it was not designed for and destroy the knife and then get the company to send you a new knife to abuse. No wonder companys go out of bussiness. Buy an axe and use the right tool for the right job.
Yep, just like the Buck 119 ... all the broken 119's you see on the internet are the ones that were thrown at a tree, hit at the wrong angle, and snapped. Don't do that and the knife will treat you well for decades, but still these myths persist that it's a "bad knife" for bushcraft ... despite being effectively water-proof, with great steel, great spine for throwing sparks ...
Exactly.
Batoning knives through SMALL sticks for kindling purposes has been around forever. Small folders can handle this.
What HASN'T been around forever is this entire stupid concept that if your belt knife isn't a massive, thick, full width tang knife that can build log cabins, fell giant hardwood trees, buck them, then baton them through rounds and rounds of logs then also slice tomatoes for your bush sammich then it's inferior, crap, and not a worthy "survival/bushcraft" knife.
All of this madness is directly one man's fault on the internet....that NutsRFancy idiot.
I still remember him saying years ago in his mind-numbingly dumb video "big knives don't suck" that "steel is stronger than wood which means steel should win everytime." 🤪🤪🤪
Even the old timers like Horace Kephart in his book stated that there are certain species of hardwoods that can have knots as hard as glass and that attempting to baton through such wood with a knife is insane and even attempting to chop through such woods with an axe was risky business and could chip out an axe edge!
If you need or expect to chop and split wood...GET A F AXE/HATCHET!
Really, how hard is it to throw even a small hatchet inside your pack? Maybe even add a small, lightweight folding saw. Now you're set for serious wood work without risking bending or snapping your only knife. Mind-blowing logic, huh?
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Straight factz!
So you beat a knife against its intended use and then have the company give you a new one? That is messed up. It is not meant to be an axe. Lifetime warranties are not meant to cover misuse which obviously occurred.
A classic
Sounds Like Great customer service. !
Great service but, on a knife that old I would have bought a new one myself. I don't believe I would have called Ontario CS belly-aching. You have more than got your money's worth out of that knife. Not being mean, but that's just my opinion.
If a company has a life time warranty and follows through with it, it only increases customers satisfaction and makes them more likely to recommend the product and company, in the end its win win for the consumer and the company, with ontario i would not hesitate to recommend them and the products i own as they take care of their customers no matter what, giving them a sense of security when purchasing.
Great customer service
It’s not a bushcraft knife
I live in Winnipeg Manitoba. I get some of my knives from adventuregear.ca they are really good people and their Ontario knives are pretty cheap. I got my 498 and my SP-1 from them. They even emailed me to tell me that Ontario used MY SP-1 for their instagram picture.
That's awesome! , truthfully I have used this 498 once as I like the bushcraft knives with full tang better and drop points better
Why did he baton with it? No knife ever (let alone a rat tail tang) should be use to baton. A froe is the only thing that should ever be used like that. Use the right tool for the right job.
I always batton with my rtak 2 but in this case it was an emergency we where 26 km in the bush and had to unexpectedly stay out due to heavy snow ,we where checking for pins marking the the edge of the land we just purchased at that time and a storm moved in and we had to spend the night, if I recall the next day we also got the snowmobile stuck in 7-10 feet of snow , it was a bunk couple days but that knife processed enough small pieces to get a fire going and thed we just piled on the deadfall, Ontario is a good company that takes great care of their customers id recommend them to anyone