KABAR & USMC Knives. Best, Better, Budget.
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2023
- The USMC KABAR Knives are given a close look at similarities and differences. This review also offers a price point perspective. In depth Reviews on the field, fighting, and utility knives can be found in links below as I Post them.
** OLDER ONTARIO MODELS MAY BE 1095, NEWER ONES MADE IN 1075**
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Long live the Ka-BAR,I gave one to my brother as a gift, he loved it,he we as in USMC.I still have two Ka-BARs that I treasure. Get yourself one you will love it and treasure it forever.
The newer USMC Bayonet combining a fighting knife with a bayonet was a brilliant idea, saves carrying a Ka-Bar and an M9 👍🏻🇦🇺
I still have, and use, my fifty-four year old "Ka-BAR". It is marked "U.S. CAMILLUS N.Y." on the blade, and has a chrome looking finish on all the metal parts. I was in the Air Force in 1970, and purchased this knife prior to leaving for Viet Nam. It was with me throughout my 23 year career, and is now a permanent part of my camping gear. That sucker takes and maintains an edge better than any other knife I've used over the years.
Great story and testimonial friend! Glad your Camillus has served you so well All these years! Good, old American quality! Hope you have someone to leave it to who will appreciate it. Blsgs, gg
One of my daughters has already spoken for it to pass it on to one of her sons. Thanks for the comment. @@Gerald-do9yg
I have one like that but I found it stuck in a tree just off a trail. I was never sure what year it was from.
Month later I scouted around a bit and found the sheath. (yay!)
~ The sheath has 9 staples vs 9 rivets.
Is your sheath stapled or riveted? I'm not sure the sheath era really matches the knife era.
Dad was career Marine, 2/9 Fox Co, vietnam,.. I was raised with all these beautiful knives around the house!!! Plus dad love collecting knives ( and everything else 😂). M6, M8, although dad qualified with M14 (Army were first to get the M16) , and the US Govmint, didn’t even issue the Marines a band to wrap around the helmet cover,… dad chose to carry riot gun with brass buckshot.. Semper Fi , new subscriber here
Oorah! I’m sure he told you lots of great stories!
@@gustifer0311 , absolutely brother,… I just went through the box with KA Bars ( and a couple other classics) in it. One specifically I had to put my hands on, the one dad carried in Nam!! Hadn’t had them out lately, thanks for sharing your collection!!
I have 2 KABARs, one I ordered directly from KABAR and the other was issued to me in 1973 by the USAF. It's a Model 1209, sometimes called a PX Knife. The USAF was issuing them to us as a tool for our travel bags. Basically a utility knife.
@Ammo08🇺🇸 Fourth in from the left I’ve had since ‘72. Still with me . I’ve enjoyed giving KaBar’s as gifts over the years (quite a few) , but never my personal of 52 years ! Here’s health to you and yours brother ! Semper Fi
Great review, I live down the road from Cutco who makes the KABAR, carried one for 21 years in the USMC. SemperFi
KABAR makes Cutco.
in 2003 i saw an article in Leatherneck magazine, they were talkin about the OKC. I wanted to buy one, but wouldnt until i graduated bootcamp. when i graduated bootcamp it was the first major purchase i had ever made. i kept it home until i got to the fleet. after my first leave i brought it with me to my unit. i kept it locked away. eventually my unit had purchased the OKC's for all the marines. those were kept in the armory we never really used them, but every field op we had to draw them out. We went on one field training exercise that lasted 2 weeks. well unfortunately, out of the entire company, 2 were lost in the field. after returning from the field the CO said we all had to back out to Verona Loop and police call the entire AO, and we were not allowed to leave until they were recovered. this was also going to affect liberty call as well. so in order for the BS to stop i had to give up my knife. the other was purchased at the PX. we had to put on a show and we stayed out there for 4 hours. the knives were "all accounted for" and we were able to go on liberty. however liberty was still delayed because the CO still had a chip on his shoulder.
Nice collection of K-bars friend. Thanks for sharing this. I broke mine, don't rush making kindling. Don't use a hammer either. Hammer won. LoL went to a antique show for guns an knives I could not believe how much old K-bars go for go fo. . ....
Brother the ww2 stuff is out of control compared to what it was 20 or 30 years ago! Do you remember when Mosin Nagants and SKS were about $40 bucks?
@Gus Wolf
Yes, I remember when Grandpa took me to gun shows, sks in green crates for around $90 . Some came with 100rds. Sadly, I think guns were easier to get 20-30 yrs ago . An look at the world today. Madness. Best regards, friend.
Hello! In 2013, I bought a KA-BAR 1271 knife from a gun store. I really like this knife, I always take it into the forest on trips. Привет из РОССИИ)))
I’ve got a WW2 pilots KA-BAR KNIFE I’ve had it since 1973 my cousin had a small army & navy surplus store he was at a supplier buying stock he bought a box of surplus American combat trousers and jackets when he opened the box at his shop the knife was wrapped up in one of the jackets he gave it to me because I had driven him to the supplier it’s the 28th of July 2023 and I’ve still got it’s got the sharping stone with it in it’s small pouch
That’s awesome my man! Hang on to that puppy and make sure she’s maintained !
Really cool to see them all together side by side Wolf. Great video. You definitely know your stuff. I only have three but they're all pretty sweet. I've customized one of their next generations with ODG cerakote, and I've got an 'original' Ka-Bar that was a boot camp graduation gift from a friend that I've used and abused. The last one is a NOS Vietnam issue in a NOS brown leather WW2 sheath for my MAC-V-SOG/Green Beret collection in mint condition with no oxidization.
My old K Bar is Parkerized , it “had “ a false swedge , but it didn’t take but a few minutes to get a razor edge on it , mine certainly isn’t pristine like your kb it was used pretty heavy for years , but for a circa 1970 knife , it’s still in decent shape , and that 1095 steel takes a razor edge…
I've had mine for almost 40 years now,first knife i bought when i got to my first duty station ad a baby Marine
Cro van steel has chromium that keeps it from rusting as easy and vanadium that makes it hold an edge longer
Thank you my friend!
I have the USMC OKC3S and I like it. I have the Army version also. The USMC is a thinner steel and 1/2" longer. The Army has thicker steel and 1/2" shorter blade. For fighting = USMC version. Survival Knife = Army. Historically, the Army knife's thicker blades were made to open ammo crates in the past wars.
I have my dad's Kabar,from Frozen Chosin. Still use it plenty, but not quite like he used it.
That is Epic! There was another fellow on here that had his Uncles from D-day!
I've wowed a lot of GIs with that baby. The stories it could tell,,,,,in an overrun situation, you're just lucky to survive,yet alone remember specifics.
@JEM133 🇺🇸 “Chosin Frozen” !! SALUTE !! Semper Fi 🦅🌎⚓️
Awesome grouping of bad assery 🇺🇸👍🏻🔪✌🏻
Thank you my brother! Looking forward to seeing more of you on the channel!
I have a Camillus NY Ka-Bar knife that I got around 1980. I still have, have carried it for many years, and it still takes a razor sharp edge. All the leather portions are treated against moisture and rot and the handle has two pins, and was dipped in the same sort of tough coating. It held up really well. I also have a Glock field knife I bought from a young Marine who carried it in two deployments in AFG. He said what you said, everybody dumped the the bayonet into the seabag and bought another knife to carry, frequently a civilian Ka-bar or clone or a Glock field knife. He said the Glock knives were popular because they were light, didn't break, attached anywhere on the Molle easily and if damaged were only about $30 to replace. He said he mostly used his dad's old Buck 110 for things like opening MREs and used the Glock knife for stuff like prying things open, cutting wire, the sort of really rough stuff that knives aren't for. It's obvious that he broke the very end of the point off, and filed it smooth, and there's one chip in the blade. Otherwise it looks just fine.
Was introduced to the cold steel srk in the military and never looked back, cold steel is my go to for a good blade.
I love my SRK! Check out my video on it!
I have the original USMC KA-BAR and the Big Brother version. Big Brother knife kicks ass!
I have my dads us marine k-bar from when he was in the navy in WWII. I need to put new leather on it.
Never lose that!
Great video love the history and all the good information as well. I actually like those OKC3S ones they look pretty sweet. At least the marines still get issued some sort of knife/ bayonet. The army used to issue a bayonet to soldiers but stopped issuing or doing and bayonet training many years ago around 2010.
All us Army guys bought and carried are own personal knives of are choice my last deployment to Iraq I carried 2 K-bar folder knives which I still have and love.
the OKC3S is pretty stinking sweet! I dont have to much experience with serrated edges. I know they are primarily designed for ripping through material, vines, rope etc. An interesting onservation about the army! I would have guessed they were still being issued the m9 with the wire cutter! I always thought that was cool!
@@gustifer0311 They did issue us a black gerber multi tool and a seat belt cutter which I still have both of them but no bayonet/tactical type knife. Unless you consider the knife on the Gerber tool a tactical knife lol!
Thanks man, I got the full size knife and the “Short” in the all black tactile looking versions. Bad ass knives, being an army vet I really love my knives even though I never really used em at work. They did give me a sense of heritage that I felt like a G.I.Joe kind of thing that I longed for. Haha. But I want to get the leather handle one. Really high quality for made in USA and under $100 online
Semper Fi, even in the Wing this is a cherished weapon/tool.
Outstanding 👍😎
thank you my friend!
Double edge also for backslashing.
sweet vid ! Keep vids coming brother ! enjoyed
will do my friend! As Always thank you for all of your support my man!
Oh hell yeah now we're talking, I've got a small collection of the older Kabar style blades from a few different company's, I also dig big Bowie's & chopper's 👍👍
Great video. Thank for posting this 😃😃
Thank you my friend for watching and commenting!!
Love the Ontario SP6. Mine is the older stamped 1095. They switched to 1075 steel so maybe you did get a bad heat treatment. The newer 1075 blades have the markings lazer etched instead of stamped. Joe X shows how the SP6 takes abuse. The one reason I like it is it's a stabbing blade design and is exactly like the OKC bayonet shape designed to penetrate. One knife you need ro add to that collection is the Buck 650 Nighthawk. Talk about an indestructible blade. The fact that our stupid military decided to not do the contract is beyond me. 1/4" of 420HC and a stabbing design like the SP6/OKC Bayonet. You can find destruction tests on it that are impressive! And, from my research, and according to Larrin's toughness chart, 420HC is some of the toughest steel around!
My friend, thank you for that long and thoughtful reply and also thank you for taking the time to comment on this video! Welcome to the channel! I will certainly check out that knife you mentioned!
Olean ny is pronounced Ole an. Great presentation thanks
Thank you for that correction and welcome to the channel!
You should hear how people who don’t know pronounce Chili NY or Leroy NY.
First trip in the field at Lejeune our company clerk ordered KaBars for us . He became an overnight hero . Fourth in from the left . Blade is stamped US and Camillus NY . That was1972 and still a cherished possession ! I have others and have given many as gifts but never that one . Great post ! Semper Fi brother “Gus” !
One long lasting brother from our days in the Corps “Gus Walsh 1371” . A life long friend, others have passed ! Here’s health to you and yours !!!
This was very very helpful for a buyer. Thankyou.
You are very welcome my friend! Thanks for commenting and watching! I’ll be uploading a review on the SP1 in the upcoming weeks! Putting it through the ringer, pretty hard and so far it’s doing very well!
Nice collection 👍 thanks enjoyed 🇱🇷
Frank! Good to see you back on the channel! Thanks for watching! Looking forward to bringing y’all some good reviews on them!
I still have my Ka-bar from my Army days (1986-1992). I actually bought the knife in 1988. My unit let me carry it on my LBE, but I had to darken the leather with black shoe polish. Looks like crap, but great knife. I have been eyeing that Case version, but still mulling it over. Great review video!
GreaT info BrotheR.
Nice collection.
Get some. I collect every ka bar style and plus other companies that makes them
Nice collection, I broke a Buck 120 at the tang like your Ontario broke, I have 5 fixed blades now, a Ka-bar, Sykes Fairburn commando, Rigid r19 razorback, and Aitor oso blanco and buck 119.
Great knife, served wall for years ,still one of the best
Gotta say, My Ontario is finished very well. Absolutely nothing like the one in the video. Not well ground, but 30 minutes on the bench, and it is now shaving sharp. I've had it three years and do a lot of batoming. No issues whatsoever. Construction is identical to the "K-BAR" with the 5/8th" tang running the length of the handle, stepping down to 9/16" shoulder for the pommel slot, which is pinned.
This does not have a rat tail tang. That's something completely different.
I sanded off the black paint, revealing beautiful stacked leather, which got a generous saturation of Obenauf's.
No. I don't hammer it into a tree and use it to step up to my Bug Out Tree House. But as a sturdy camp tool, it's as good as any and will baton through 4" hardwood like a splitting moll.
The Ontario SP-2 is just as good - maybe better because it has a solid rubber grip and a 5" blade, which many find more practical.
Good video man. It’s very informative. Sweet collection!🔥🔪
Thank you my brother! Always good to see you on the channel!
@@gustifer0311 Yea man! Good content keep me coming back. 👊🇺🇸
Awesome video. I love Kabar/military knives. It's funny how the prices for these knives vary. I live in Canada and the prices are completey backward to what you listed. Here the Case version, next to the OKC3S are the 2 most expensive "kabars" to purchase and I had them all except for the case which is expensive here in Canada.
Hey thank you for watching and commenting my brother! Welcome to the channel and thank you for your input!
The onterio bayonet is the best to me absolutely favorite knife I own and used have put through quarts of wood
Great stuff! Love the Ka-bar
Me too! Thanks for watching and commenting brother! Hope to see more of you here!
@@gustifer0311I shall return!
Awesome collection!
Hey brother thanks for liking and commenting!
I actually think it’s a really good design. It’s relatively thick and you can use it to pride things open and great for stabbing your opponent. I wished they would make it out of the top of the line materials.
I have my grandfather's Robeson Suredge Kabar from WW2. I understand they made the fewest that were contracted. It was a re-issue. Has the name M.L. Goodspeed burned into the back of the Sheath.
Keep that and never lose that! I bet if you got on Ancestry you could pull his military records!
@@gustifer0311 I did try! Grandpa Savage not around to ask anymore but I hold it as the cherry of My collection
@@nevillesavage2012 try this site: its how i found all of mine, and my german ancestors war records too!
go.fold3.com/military?xid=2043&sp=1&slid=&pgrid=19503388021&ptaid=kwd-22878249340&s_kwcid=+military%20+personnel%20+records&gclid=CjwKCAjw3ueiBhBmEiwA4BhspJpSVR79NQqbdMEcOXgNB4wZgmSQf57tEcbgFZpyDP4NoGqRqduy4xoCDdIQAvD_BwE&pcrid=508908760064&pkw=%2Bmilitary+%2Bpersonnel+%2Brecords&mkwid=s_dc&pmt=b
@@gustifer0311 awesome brother. I will do my homework and report back!
@@nevillesavage2012 you got it please do!
Beautifull knives 🙏🏽💯✔️🔥👑💎
I like them all🤙
the ka bar at minute 6,29... i had one of those what actully kind is it ....i like the dark handle one & dark brown one...id like to get another dark handle one
@4:57 you mention taking care of the leather handle. How do you taking care of those stacked leather rings?
I absolutely luv my Ka-Bar Knives! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
My Brother!
Gus...i was watching a video yesterday on a Ka bar knife. And these two guys decided i test the knife. So the first thing they did is nail the knife into a tree trunk. In doing so the knife at its guard failed and was bent. Than they proceeded to try to remove the knife by batoning the handle. The handle broke off and the blade was left in the tree.
I find it really ridiculous the testing of this particular knife on how its abused. You really should again post a video truely explaingbthe role thatvthis knife has had in its history.
This knife its an excellent field knife coupled with a tomahawk and a saw. Sure it ain't an esee 5...but it wasnt designed to be that knife. People are comparing apples to oranges. I dont know about you but i would carry a Ka-bar anywhere along with the understanding that i wouldnt slam my knife into a tree...call it a day and than explain why it was done and to justify it with some upsurd comment. These guys thought that they were metalergists!! They take away from its history.
Its a great knife; its a warriors knife; its an American knife; its a outdoors knife; it's a camp knife; its a bikers knife and a gangsters knife two. Fuck OJ used this knife...he had too!!! I see knives on some ofvthese channels that have never been used. You gotta guy out of Alaska who loves his Pacific Chris Reeves knife. This dude has never used his knife. But he loves talking about his Chris Reeves knife. He thinks to that to live in Alaska you need a C.R. knife.
Wise Input my friend. People have gone nuts with Batoning things. I get it. I’ve done much of that in my videos. We need to come back to reality though
Anyone know where I can get the Ontario Knife Company 6504 OKC3S Marine Bayonet (Brown) I see it on Amazon but can't seem to purchase it. Thanks
I've got one that my great uncle hit the beach in France in WW 2. All so have his pocket Bible.
NEVER LOSE THOSE! SAFE DEPOSIT BOX!
In a 800 lb gun safe as we chat.
my case kinda came in rough shape it came with the guard wiggly and the leather handle looked a bit rough and pretty dry the sheath for it came in pretty good shape tho some white stuff on the front of it that may clean off not sure and some random dark spots on the back of the sheath
These were sharp and they stayed sharp during use. I use to own 5 of these with different makers
I had a ka-bar my parents got me when I graduated from boot camp, but somebody stole it when I was deployed for Desert Storm. Recently I bought the Case version. It's my understanding that it's based on the model Case submitted during WWII, but didn't get a government contract.
You may be very well right. Many companies were awarded contracts. I love my case, I think it may very well be my favorite:)
@@gustifer0311 yeah, it really is a nice knife. I was going to get another Ka-bar but then I stumbled onto the Case. Thanks for the video...great collection!
strongly recommend you keep your videos short, but informative . . . like a full video summed up in 10 mins . . . the broken knife is a result of oxidation that's hard to detect . . . oxidation happens if the blade absorbs moisture during shaping of the molten hot steel into a knife . . . it's a rare phenomena but they do happen . . . any form of oxidation in a blade cannot be easily detected, except if & when put under a electron microscope . . .
That first knife, was my 2nd boy scout knife that I.wore on my camp belt for decades.
Great vid, subbed
@@cb3391 thank you my brother! Welcome to the channel!
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I have the Ontario version. It is an exact copy of the "kabar" requisition requirement. Good, solid knife, although I have greatly modified the edge angle and I've ground the clip point to a straight line that strengthens the tip.
On the tang thing: These do not have a rat tail tang. Those are tangs that taper to a thickness less than what they start at. All requisition USMC designs have a straight tang of 9/16" all the way thru the handle that shoulders down square to 1/2" at the pommel cap, which is cross pinned. Continous spiking will ecventually loosen the pommel cap and can loosen the cross guard as well. A simple punch and hammer will quickly solve the problem.
Thus, if they have a weak spot, it is at the point where the blade transitions into the grip, which can be broken under extreme stress. It is not easy to do but some do it just to "prove" the knife is crap.
hey my brother thank you for the correction on the tang! sometimes my knife slang gets a little loose! and thank you for telling me about the tang in detail! love them too much to shred them apart! thanks for watching and commenting! Welcome to the channel!
@@gustifer0311 Thank you, sir.
Funny bit of history, when the military wanted a new fighting knife several companies answered the call with their designs. Onterio won but in true US fashion, the DOD awarded the contract to kabar BUT to produce onterios design. Thats right, the iconic kabar was designed by OKC
@@joshuarose8451 Gotta wonder if politics or outright backscratching was involved......nah, couldn't happen.
@@OutnBacker never would brass allow that. They must have just got confused about which company designed which knife lmao
I can verify that 1095CroVan (small percentages of chromium, vanadium, and a few other elements) is harder to sharpen that straight 1075 to 1085 carbon steel. I tried to get my Ka-Bar brand Ka-Bar back to hair shaving sharp, on my Work Sharp Ken Onion. I couldn't do it. Admittedly, I was rushing, and I'm a novice when it comes to knife sharpening. I think I wasn't using the correct angle, or the correct grit to sharpen my Ka-Bar. Regardless, it's still harder to sharpen. And from my experience, if you buy one with the Kydex sheath, it comes hair shaving sharp, but dulls quickly, even without use. Just taking it out and putting it back in the sheath dulled the blade. That's fairly common for polymer spring-retention sheaths.
Ontario has a finish on the handle to keep it from rotting from moisture
O.K.C. Is now defunct. I bought a 498 and a brand new bayonet. These are now for collection. The Camillus and the Ontario 498 were what I saw in the armory, so that’s what I got for nalstalgia. Good luck finding a 498 now.
Chro-van is a chrome vanadium alloy, chrome making it more rust resistant (also makes it hard to weld) and vanadium making it more abrasion resistant. 1095 being .95 percent carbon.
Thank you my friend! Welcome to the channel! Hope to see more of you around!
0 being the second digit means it has no alloying material. i just went over this in classes im taking for my heat treat job.
@@patriot-1996 thank you for the knowledge bomb 💣!
I've been lucky enough to own 2 genuine WW2 Ka-Bars. Wish I still had them.
I have a Ka Bar USMC knife that has the red washers but there is also a punched depresiion (hole)near the top of the blade at the top left of the letters Ka Bar. There is red paint inside the hole. Has anyone ever seen this before?
Was alittle shocked that during the comparing of the mark 2 combat knives that there was no mention of the fact that both the
ka bar & case knives are made for the commercial/civilian market. While the Ontario knife is a U.S. Military contract knife made to Gov. Spec's. That explains the more refined finish on case & Ka Bar knives compared to the True Military Ontario.
Looks like that Ontario budget friendly knife broke at the stress risers created by making 90deg square corners used to fit the hilt...a knife makers no-no, but probably present on every knife you have on the table and exactly why I would never carry any of those into a situation where my life depended on my knife..etc.
Ty for your service.
Thank you for that wonderful insight! I’ve never heard of that before! Also welcome to the channel!
There are many but this one is mine,1996 k bar and no it ain't for sale...😊
Gotta get the TOPS Springfield Armory knife now :)
Hey Brother! Thanks for watching and commenting! That is one sweet looking blade! Just looked it up!
the knife that broke what kind is it looks like an air force one
Gus, I have a USN KA Bar knife from WWII in excellent condition. I am trying to get more info. Can you help?
Hey brother I would love to! Shoot me your email and I will reach out and get some pics to help you identify it
How can I get some rust-looking spots off the blade without potentially ruining the coating? Also how to prevent the spots in the future?
Don’t leave them in the sheath. If you do, spay they with olive oil and wrap them in plastic wrap. When ever you are storing your blades always cost them with oil and separate them from the leather as it draws moisture. As far as removing just use steel wool. Don’t worry about scratching it because you can polish with a dremel or grinder wheel with the proper attachments. Some people polish with a strop and stropping compound as well.
Is the rust on the powdercoat or on polished part?
I would appreciate to see the Cold Steel SRK (or SRK-C?) in order to compare each of them. Nice video.
Here you go my friend!
Cold Steel SRK Knife. Navy SEAL Survival Rescue Knife
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The sheath sucks for the sp6, does it fit in the bayonet sheath?
Yes it does!!!!
what was that link marian
I prefer a F S dagger ❤
gus whats the difference between the dark brown sheath & light tan sheath...like in make or war or years
It varies per manufacturer and can change from decade to decade. Sheaths are often lost and easily replaced with numerous manufacturers stamping “Ka bar” on the side and some not. It would be hard to identify a knife based off of a sheath alone, but it’s not impossible.
Nice knives. Oh btw 1095 CroVan has chromium & vanadium.
Thanks for the info
I'm a marine vet & mine is made in the USA K-BAR , You can shave with it . Ooo Rah
S/f
To correctly pronounce the town in NY. Olean NY, Its pronounce O-LEE-ANN ! If your not from there most people typically pronounce it correctly.
Thank you!
I have the 1209 viet nam era, with wooden handle
They ever get back to you?
The Grove is call a Fuller goes back to sword makeing
I'm not sure why there was confusion, but a higher chromium content would make a knife more corrosion resistant, not less corrosion resistant. It also makes it harder to sharpen. Chrome is a very hard element. On some of the swords that were found with the Terracotta Warriors in china, they found that some of these swords Stihl razor sharp. The reason, they eventually figured out that they were coated with hard chrome. Something that we didn't develop until about the 1930s and it was originally developed so that you could put it on internally reciprocating engine parts so that they could run even without oil at times. My gunsmith happened to take a firearm he built for shooting in the Camp Perry matches, and he sold it to me after his son passed away. And yes, it is still the most accurate government model, on the planet, bar none. And documented so. He hard chromed it because I was going to use it as everyday carry gun with a couple of modifications, he also made sure that I kept the original parts he had built the firearm with. The reason he did that was because I would spray dry Teflon on it and leave it the hell alone I would not oil that firearm in any way shape or form because oil draws dirt and dirt causes issues with reliability.
No lie about the bayonet; I stuffed that one in the sea bag and carried a Tanto KABAR.
Not surprised that inexpensive Ontario snapped in half. Those used to be the best bargains out there for real world use in the great outdoors about a decade ago. Now they're just junk. Snap in half FAR too easily. Best avoided.
I have an sp6 with a sharp swedge. It’s an older one
Interesting!
Second okc3s is a commercial version for civilian market compared to the first is military issue i think.
THANK YOU
Ontario (OKC) has ceased operations! Thought they were the largest supplier of USGI knives.
A SAD DAY FOR US ALL
The case made knife is actually made by Ontario knives for them.
That is interesting! Thank you so much for sharing that!
Breaking that sp6 was def a 1 off. I've used mine as a pry bar to bust open plywood crates daily for months
Hey man I appreciate you sharing that! Welcome to the channel!
@@gustifer0311 yes sir. Keep turning out that quality material. It's appreciated sir.
@@joshuarose8451 will do sir thank you! Should be returning soon!
what is the most use of knife in modern warfare?
Field utility. Opening boxes, etc. warfare has been increasingly longer distance especially the last 30 years. The infantry will always be in need of a short range close combat weapon, but only a very, very small percentage will be afforded the opportunity to use in such situations. Was some bayonet usage recorded during the battle of Falluja also known as operation phantom fury in 2004.
Well said friend AMEN. Trench warfare Ukrainian?
@@mikeyob4271 I don’t have experience on that battlefield, so I can’t testify to that. If munitions are cut short for the Russians, like they were in the beginning, I would say that that might likely be an option. However, I think most men would rather surrender first . it seems their drafted fighters have very little will to fight, and bayonet fighting is something that takes a lot of will.
@Gus Wolf
I totally agree. But when you're out of ammo... what else is there ? HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF. I also enjoy HISTORY. Best regards, friend.
@@gustifer0311 SSgt. David Bellavia, US Army, earned the Medal of Honor for actions during the 2nd Battle of Fallujah in 2004. In his book he talks about engaging in hand to hand combat with an insurgent and using his Gerber combat knife to introduce him to his 72 virgins.
I later read that he was carrying a Gerber Applegate combat folder. (Interestingly, I carried that same blade in Iraq in 2006-07, along with a few others).
Yeah knives aren’t used regularly for combat, but it happens. I regularly transported enemy prisoners on helicopters, and given the close proximity, we carried condition 4. Also, nobody wanted to start putting rounds downrange inside a helicopter at 3000 feet. During those operations, your blade was your primary weapon if it got bad.
Semper Fi🇺🇸
i have the Camillus version!
That’s awesome those are hard to come by now!
I had one in the 60s. Great knife. I got careless and lost it. I paid 10bucks for it.
I have my original issue from 1964. It is still top condition except for the shine from sharpening where the Parkrizing has been worn from stoning.Mine says US Camillus NY. No other markings and my original excellent condition sheath with no markings. This is the real deal. No fancy or other identifying markings of any kind. This was not store bought. Issue.
HaHa😂😂, the "Budget Options" are pretty much my "Go To's".(all I can afford)🙄
Anything over $50 or so is out of my league. 😒
I've got some Cold Steel, Ontario Knife, Schrade/Old Timer, 1 Glock, 1 Kabar, then some pretty cheap stuff.
LOL MINE TOO! I CRINGE WAY LESS ABUSING BY BUDGETS
These are not “rat tail.” The are concealed tang, and though some are not very good, in terms of strength, or taking care to radius the tang where the guard site they are not so narrow as to take a threaded pommel
Rat tail is where the gang goes from ricasso width to very narrow right below the guard. The tang on the kbars is rediced width, but under the handle it should not be so narrow as it appears in the pommel
Yes thank you for the correction.