Late time to upload, but the newsletter sleeps for no one! I put a lot of work into editing this on such a tight turnaround, so I hope you enjoy! You can find my big DR theory/analysis video here: ruclips.net/video/GZ_Fb64kg00/видео.html If you like what I do, consider supporting me on Patreon at patreon.com/dorked Read the Newsletter: toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/holiday24/ Read Inverted Fate: invertedfate.com/chapters Read The Crow Cries at Midnight: archiveofourown.org/works/48777436/chapters/123046261 Chapters: 0:00 - Newsletter Start! 03:53 - Chapter 3 05:27 - Chapter 4 (Dark World Confirmed...?) 09:01 - Chapter 5 (Festival & Pizzapants) 11:30 - Merch Breakdown 14:10 - Noelle & Dess Story 16:18 - Conclusion & 2025 Plans
The creator of the burgerpants conspiracy presents it like it's a far fetched theory but he really just planted a microchip in Toby's brain and now knows all future plans for deltarune
The Berdly dialog really brings me hope that he will have a role in later chapters. He IS Noelle's best friend, and the main support she had for years. (Plus it'd be funny af if BERDLY was one of the most important characters)
Yeah, what this tells me is that, at minimum, we're going to see more of Berdly in the normal route. That might even make his absence in the weird route all the more jarring.
Berdly could be more of a reoccurring character that Kris and Susie meet up with but doesn't play a really big role, like a side character. And maybe he won't be around after the snowgrave route
I like the detail that Sans and Papy don’t have any different clothes for winter, they live in snowdin the outfits they wear are built for the snow. Also, it mentioned that Seam’s tail got ripped off by cruel and loving hands, and Jevil is cruel, he and Seam were close, and we know Seam fought Jevil to force him into the cage so they could’ve lost both their eye and tail in that fight.
Cute idea, I'm sure Jevil and Seam had a great friendship (and perhaps still do to some extent) but I'm *pretty* certain that this was about a child or several children playing with the plush.
@@Dorkedgenuinely I love the seven knights concept, and even though that there’s a good amount of evidence that it won’t happen I am a big fan of how they present the theory.
@@Dorked Definitely! I disagree with the original theory of there being 7 knights, but multiple knight theory seems way more likely to me than Kris Knight, as I don't think they opened Ch. 1 or 2's dark fountains, but I could see any combination of Pizzapants, Noelle, and maybe even Susie opening a dark fountain.
7:28 also pretty sure someone on twitter translated the JP text for this one and its Ralsei! im 99% sure hes on fruit juice (church) or fruitcake (holiday house) which would be funny to see
@@alt4388 Even so... "I'll let you be the breeze under my wings" right after referencing ACTs does make me think its still possible that we go into a dark world with him again, maybe even during the festival, and he becomes our party member there after trusting Kris' guidance
12:40 also the possibilty that Seam might have for sure Dust element as part of him, because toys that are left alone for long collect the dust, so it's cool that his magic is of dust kind, though that second part that might also be an element might be nightmare or despair, maybe.
Bruh I’ve been saying Chapter 4 will be at Noelle’s house since the day we got the teaser with her with the flashlight. And, don’t forget that the Spamton Sweepstakes mentioned an Ice Palace Maze that could only be navigated by a party member who knows the way. If a messy garage full of Christmas decorations could be described as anything BUT an ice palace maze then I’d be legitimately shocked, and don’t forget that Noelle is the one character who should know how to find anything in their own garage/storage room, not even mentioning the flashlight, a tool for *finding things in the dark.* And, if we go by the Sweepstakes description, then there will also be a way to AVOID adding Noelle to our party, causing us to reach a hidden door that can’t be unlocked without a key that doesn’t exist in the game. In this case, it would have to come from outside the dark world, either found in chapter 3, or in the light world segments between the two dark worlds.
@@Dorked At first I thought it would be for the chapter 3 secret boss, but now I’m absolutely 100% convinced this is how it will happen instead. It also keeps the maze directly associated with Noelle narratively, as it should be. I also think there may be a connection between HOW this will occur and Gas Leak theory. Personally, I hate gas leak theory because it seeks to dismiss us seeing Kris literally make a dark fountain on screen as another fake-out, but there’s an element of potential to it too. If Toriel will be in the dark world, then she’s likely to have fire magic. She also called the police, making it possible that the police will show up, particularly Undyne, who is weak to heat. This immediately sets up both a normal and weird route, but it ALSO sets up a way they can convince Toriel and Undyne that the dark world is a dream; it’s a delirium induced by low oxygen due to being in a house fire caused by a gas leak. Yes, you heard me right, I’m predicting that Kris and Susie will try to play off the dark world as a dream by using the exact thing gas leak theorists claimed would be used to make Kris’ actions a red herring, but also that the chapter ends with a house fire. (To be clear, I’m not saying it ends with the whole house burning down, that might be excessive, but it might need to undergo inspections and cleaning to be deemed safe). Don’t forget too that Kris opened the front door, and dark world matter floods the room like a black smoke, meaning anyone who sees the house could easily be convinced that it’s burning down. Undyne may even try to blame the trouble-maker Susie for starting it, only to be defended by Toriel, showing genuine care for and trust in Susie, which her character arc really needs after establishing the implication of a troubled home and her fondness for Toriel. The result of all this? Toriel calls an old friend of the family to request that Kris stay over for a little bit, and Noelle may even invite Susie to join the sleepover. It helps connect Kris’ weird actions at the end of each chapter to characters likely to be present, AND gives a valid reason for the next dark world to end up at Noelle’s house and still be consistent regardless of route (we know it isn’t as simple as Noelle just invites Kris over if you did the weird route, for example).
Maybe the way to avoid adding Noell to the party is the to do the Weird route because after happened in chapter 2 I can see Kris or Susie preventing her from joining to avoid another snow grave incident
interestingly if you go to the actual store page for the striped shirt, the description is different from the one in the newsletter and the coloration looks a bit closer to chara's colors than kris ( you can compare the images side by side and the newsletter one looks noticeably more yellow ). it says "The pattern of a shirt worn by a beloved someone. Your love will become theirs. Their love will become yours." it's similar, but i would like to note how where the shirt looks more chara-esque, it's referring to chara as a beloved someone, whereas kris is kind of outcast in their hometown. and the kris-like shirt image, it calls it a mask over your skin, like how you are pretending to be kris and sort of taking over their life for them in deltarune. the phrases "your love will become theirs" and "their love will become yours" are also swapped in order on the newsletter and store page, for chara your love becomes theirs first, for kris their love becomes yours first. i think this has some wild implications for the dynamic between kris and the player, would like to hear others' thoughts on this.
Ello! wanted to point out something out about the last newsletter, so basically the last chapter 5 news had a balloon and its color palette was literally the exact same as the posters of ice E in ice E's pizza and in this chapter 5 news burger/pizzapants is relevant somehow. (sorry if the grammar is bad I was rushing this)
That's actually from a song from the Hawaii Part II album from Miracle Musical! iirc it's the song Labyrinth. i remember watching a snapcube stream and hearing that and losing it completely lmao
I think the Burgerpants sprite could possibly be at the church, with it looking like he has fruit punch around his mouth, and I could see the wreath hanging around the church somewhere. The church could potentially be open during the festival, some of the people possibly hanging out there.
Dude cammieboi is literally a genius if this is true, ik he predicted the burgerpants and the church to be in separate chapters, but that's still crazy
The poem is even formatted in the shape of an angel. I don't see how this detail adds any new information to the text itself but it's that sort of attention to detail that makes me really respect Toby as a creator
While this is late, i love how toby fox's carpet song is the closest thing we have with toby and persona games. I will die a happy man from peak if toby fox does makes a song for persona. It would be more peak if loutus juice or lyn were doing the lyrics
I'm both hyped and worried about Chapters 3 and 4 because for one, we'll get hell of new Deltarune Lore to explore. But I know I'm gonna have to avoid Deltarune/Undertale RUclipsrs (like yourself) and the Deltarune/Undertale Subreddit to not get spoiled of anything new. Trust me I got spoiled the Spamton NEO fight because my dumb@#& thought Spamton was like a one off encounter and didn't think to pay attention to his dialog and back track to the beginning area in Chapter 2.
For what it's worth, I'll probably give it some time before I start throwing spoilers around and try to keep thumbnails from being TOO heavy on spoilers so that people can avoid being blindsided. I wanna handle the rollout of new material carefully.
People uncovered snowgrave only a few days or even a week after chapter 2 I believe, until I complete the game for the first time I have to avoid everything
@@Krispykreme15 To be fair, people thought the person who discovered the Wierd Route were either lying or making a Chapter 2 Creepypasta until people saw for themselves.
This is the only time I was upset with a newsletter because it came the day right before my birthday 😔 The berdly dialogue is giving me kerdly vibes… it probably won’t be canon but it would be funny
14:15 this is terrifying… snow angels, Dess making it bigger, Kris’s being bigger than Noelle’s, those last lines. Yeah… adorable story and all but uh oh no-🎹Mari
I wonder if the chapter 3 darkners will be brought to castle town, because it doesn't seem like Toriel would be okay with Kris taking alot of their stuff and moving it to the school closet.
It's interesting how in Deltarune, Asriel is mentioned throughout Hometown by almost everyone, even Onion-San, but Dess is only mentioned by Noelle, with most of the info we got on Dess right now from whatever Noelle said on blogs or websites.
I get the feeling that once Dess does make her official appearance, she going to exploded as the internet "wafui" for month and the likes. GIven she imply to be a tomboy and have relationship(ether plaston ic or romantic) to asriel, yeah it going to be a storm of fan art
I feel like Dess will also appeal to the queer UTDR fans for some reason? I can see her having butch vibes that appeal to sapphic fans in particular. xD
@Dorked given the reaction of asriel(especially his adult form) and ralsei, yeah I cna image there would be "a gay awakening" for the girls or an furry awakening with Dess. Again I can see dess explosioning the furry side of the internet.
6:54 I believe Susie is talking to Ralsei! the japanese translation of the E9 dialogue starts with "hehe... Rarusei ni(...)" then he goes on to say "waaーn boku mo suji-tan ga taaisuki dayo~" which is a cutesy, or "baby" way of talking. very in character for Ralsei lol
6:53 I believe the E? in the code are just the character portraits the speaker would be listed on the far left of it however it seams the Best Inu left out the names of the characters saying inferno inferno and the second paragraph The ^text/ could very well be just a way to organize the text box presentation but I’m not so sure on this one and & is just to separate the text to a second line if exceeding the text box limit Please correct me if I’m wrong n ya know as I am still trying to learn so I’m not 100% sure I know this may be wishful thinking but I’m guessing the second set of text boxes is Noelle, Susie, Noelle, Noelle The 5th one Noelle might be practicing as her or Susie walks off
Also the text does appear to be in order of conversation pre each connected sentence however this may not even show in game in the order presented & even the order they are shown pre paragraph could only be shown as distraction I put nothing past the Inu at this point
The Annoying Now Dog might have just got me, after further analysis of the text it could literally all just be between Susie & Lancer I walked right into their trap card, but that would be too funny if it was🤣 Swap Noelle for Lancer & all the context still fits up to the end of third paragraph set
This is gonna be silly, but I think the bunker is just filled with the Holidays Christmass decorations. Like a huge bunker of Christmas decorations. So big, you could get lost in it.
Something I’d like to point out is the “To by or not to by” dialogue, because this is an intentional mispelling of “Buy” as “By”. This is notable, because the secret Valentine’s card ALSO did the same thing, with “Good By” at the end. The capitalization is different, but I think it’s worth thinking about.
STOPPPPPPP TORIEL’S LITTLE SNOW OUTFIT IS SOOOO CUTE AND SHES STICKING HER TONGUE OUT TO CATCH SNOWFLAKES?!?!?! Ive always related to her way too much to my own good but now I do even more!!!
Oh my god, I didn't realize that the Kris/Chara shirt message was customized to your name- mine is Dess and I was wondering if there was some sort of Dess lore connection 😂
Since the (adorable) animation sprites for the newsletter all seem to be from Undertale specifically, it reminds me of a theory question of sorts I’ve had for a while now: 1. Toby assured us that Undertale’s ending has not been altered- ergo if you managed a happy ending, the characters are still enjoying that. 2. Undertale and Deltarune are somehow connected, with many theorizing that Sans (and ostensibly Papyrus) are from Deltarune to begin with. However, I haven’t seen any discourse surrounding how 1 & 2 might affect each other? For instance, if the Sans in Undertale is from Deltarune… what is he doing back in Deltarune, now? Is the Sans we see in Deltarune a younger version of Undertale Sans, chronologically? That doesn’t really make sense, but neither does Sans (and hopefully Papyrus) being yoinked from Undertale’s ending back to Deltarune, especially since the player might have picked Undertale’s genocide route- and even if not, that ending is supposed to be untouched either way! I have… no idea how much sense this makes? But I think it’s interesting, at least- or maybe it’s just driven me past the point of rationality!
i kind of assumed that the pizzapants sprite is him presenting something while working in the festival? it could be ice-e related if they are catering for it like you suggested or are using it to promote themselves bc of how big of an event it is. or maybe he had to get another job in it. also DESS GOT ONE (1) LINE OF DIALOGUE THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE (as im writing this i realized that her giving the snow angel bigger wings MIGHT be Foreshadowing of her trying to give some power to noelle through smth related to the angel but i could also reading too much into it and it's just meant to be cute (which it is))
the christmas stuff in the chapter 4 section could just be a red herring, the newsletter has a christmas theme so it would make sense if toby decided to show things that are related to christmas, we could visit noelle's house at the end of the chapter. as for the dark world i highly think it will be the church just because of rudy going to the church on the same day chapter 4 is supposed to take place, as well as the cup darkner and Alvin mentioning that there is juice in the church. so it appears that inferno means hell, or atleast fire, and if the holiday mansion is the chapter 4 dark world it wouldn't make sense for a fire enemy to be in a place whose residents like cold, especially mayor holiday, however it makes total sense for it to be in the church based on the religious meaning of the word
Lancer and Rouxls are already in your pocket when you leave Castle Town at the end of Chapter 2. They're definitely gonna be reoccurring characters throughout the whole game
I like the Implications that Jevil may have gotten more than Seam's Eye... It shows that Jevil is still Dangerous and was most likely holding himself back...
As far as I can tell the house like carpet meming started in the persona community a little over a year ago. With videos ranging from 1 year to 4 months ago. Toby fox jumped in around a month ago with his take on it.
Hm, how very interesting, we’re getting closer, to see which Theories were at least accurate and which will be crushed, i will look forward to it. Also, interesting projects you mentioned, i will be looking forward to those too. By the way, I can’t remember if I’ve asked this before, but have you read the IDW Sonic Comics?
A winter/Christmas dark world (either on the mansion, town hall or 'Sans if you wanna be funny) always felt like an obvious path, both for the Holidays and for Snowdin call backs, but I thought it was going to be later in the game like chapter 5 or 6.
The future darkworld and black friday merch was really intriguing to see anyhow so ch3&4 is guaranteed to come out in 2025 i speculated that it'll come out at near the end of spring cause by then the frozen dog would have fully thawed out (just a guess of course)
Yeah, what a newsletter this turned out to be, eh? I think my favorite part is easily Temmie's art of the dog incased in the ice. I dunno why, but the concept alone is way too funny to me.
I actually have the first VOD up, but I have to go through and do chapter markers, etc, which I might start doing tomorrow. Meant to do it sooner, but I got a bit busy.
I'd say that Deltarune could not be considered the biggest Game Maker game, because we just got UFO 50, which is literally 50 games in one Game Maker project. I don't know why Mossmouth can release a single GM project that is literally 50 games in one, while Toby is struggling to have more than 2 chapters in a single project.
"To by or not to by" is pronounced in Japanese like "Toby or not Toby". A parody of "To be or not to be." Nice pun. :3 But it COULD still also have a third shop-related context too, which would make it, like, a triple inverse pun! 😀
Here me out: at the beginning, toby is in a very, very, familiar ice, the same as berdly, as stated by dorked, and it also not to put the dog in the defroster, you know how you unfreeze chicken? A defroster, basically, I think toby is saying not to abort the weird route.
I think he just annoys people, and there are some parts in P5's writing for him that grate on people (e.g. the Okumura arc). While Mona isn't my favorite Phantom Thief, I do like him well enough, and most of the issues with him aren't even there in Tactica, which had a really good showing for Morgana. Plus, he was one of the best party members there. xD
Late time to upload, but the newsletter sleeps for no one! I put a lot of work into editing this on such a tight turnaround, so I hope you enjoy! You can find my big DR theory/analysis video here: ruclips.net/video/GZ_Fb64kg00/видео.html If you like what I do, consider supporting me on Patreon at patreon.com/dorked
Read the Newsletter: toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/holiday24/
Read Inverted Fate: invertedfate.com/chapters
Read The Crow Cries at Midnight: archiveofourown.org/works/48777436/chapters/123046261
Chapters:
0:00 - Newsletter Start!
03:53 - Chapter 3
05:27 - Chapter 4 (Dark World Confirmed...?)
09:01 - Chapter 5 (Festival & Pizzapants)
11:30 - Merch Breakdown
14:10 - Noelle & Dess Story
16:18 - Conclusion & 2025 Plans
oh... that's carpet... that's the house that john built...on a hill...
Chef Boyarde... rhymes really cookin'...
gonna feel like velvet, Turtle!
carpet...
Is it on Brooklyn New York?
Check it out... Im in the house... Like carpet... Carpet...
Burgerpants is definitely the Knight. Ending the world is very rational when you work in fast food.
The creator of the burgerpants conspiracy presents it like it's a far fetched theory but he really just planted a microchip in Toby's brain and now knows all future plans for deltarune
Dess calling Noelle "Elly" makes me smile
It's SUPER cute and I love it... Precious sister moment.
Proof holy/ellyctric
What?! OMG that's so cute!!
That's so adorable!!
The Berdly dialog really brings me hope that he will have a role in later chapters. He IS Noelle's best friend, and the main support she had for years. (Plus it'd be funny af if BERDLY was one of the most important characters)
Yeah, what this tells me is that, at minimum, we're going to see more of Berdly in the normal route. That might even make his absence in the weird route all the more jarring.
YAYYYY!!!! A WIN FOR BERDLY FANS EVERYWHERE!!!
Kerdly confirmed.
BERDLY IS THE KNIGHT
Berdly could be more of a reoccurring character that Kris and Susie meet up with but doesn't play a really big role, like a side character. And maybe he won't be around after the snowgrave route
Considering the burgerpants sprite is labeled as ch5 which means that burgerpants is probably going to play a role somehow.
Yeah, whether it's for an overworld segment or a dark world/plot segment remains to be seen, but it will be fun to see more of his antics.
Burgerchads… we’ve won
Holy shit the burgerpants conspiracy might be true
Can't believe that video came out almost a week ago and it's already bearing fruit @@MizoTwo
Pizza night!!!!
I like the detail that Sans and Papy don’t have any different clothes for winter, they live in snowdin the outfits they wear are built for the snow. Also, it mentioned that Seam’s tail got ripped off by cruel and loving hands, and Jevil is cruel, he and Seam were close, and we know Seam fought Jevil to force him into the cage so they could’ve lost both their eye and tail in that fight.
What if Jevil's tail is really Seam's?
@@gameyfirebro9645
Jevil: "HE HE HE! MY TAIL NOW!"
Maybe the cruel and loving hands are the children that used to play with them
Cute idea, I'm sure Jevil and Seam had a great friendship (and perhaps still do to some extent) but I'm *pretty* certain that this was about a child or several children playing with the plush.
@@philltheotherguy1868 That actually makes sense
I just think its funny that Berdly might be a somewhat important character outside of chapter 2. This is deeply funny to me.
Berdly being important in normal route is so big brained because it makes snowgrave even more striking.
Snowgrave kinda implies that berdly is in a coma or dead so his disappearance will really start to sink in after the weird route
PIZZA KNIGHT IS SO REAL CHAT
THE BURGERPANTS CONSPIRACY CONTINUES
Pizza Knight would be so cool, and I really need to watch that video.
@@Dorkedgenuinely I love the seven knights concept, and even though that there’s a good amount of evidence that it won’t happen I am a big fan of how they present the theory.
@@Dorked Definitely! I disagree with the original theory of there being 7 knights, but multiple knight theory seems way more likely to me than Kris Knight, as I don't think they opened Ch. 1 or 2's dark fountains, but I could see any combination of Pizzapants, Noelle, and maybe even Susie opening a dark fountain.
7:28 also pretty sure someone on twitter translated the JP text for this one and its Ralsei! im 99% sure hes on fruit juice (church) or fruitcake (holiday house) which would be funny to see
"As an ACT" in berdly dialog, berdly is party member this is his flirt dialog
But this text should be at the start instead of halfway through then
his dialogue in Japanese is not in kanji, suggesting this is a light world segment
@@alt4388 Even so... "I'll let you be the breeze under my wings" right after referencing ACTs does make me think its still possible that we go into a dark world with him again, maybe even during the festival, and he becomes our party member there after trusting Kris' guidance
@@leedlelel2373 it's capitalized for emphasis, not to reference acts
1:12 i always forget what song this is and then the lyrics start and it gets me EVERY SINGLE TIME
That's the beauty of Burning Men's Soul. It's a gift. It's a treasure. It's high art.
Perfect timing too
Finally I know what it’s called!
12:40 also the possibilty that Seam might have for sure Dust element as part of him, because toys that are left alone for long collect the dust, so it's cool that his magic is of dust kind, though that second part that might also be an element might be nightmare or despair, maybe.
Dust/Cat
@AllanGuiHaya70 right! I forgot cat is an element that is good against puppet
Sean isn't a boy
Bruh I’ve been saying Chapter 4 will be at Noelle’s house since the day we got the teaser with her with the flashlight. And, don’t forget that the Spamton Sweepstakes mentioned an Ice Palace Maze that could only be navigated by a party member who knows the way. If a messy garage full of Christmas decorations could be described as anything BUT an ice palace maze then I’d be legitimately shocked, and don’t forget that Noelle is the one character who should know how to find anything in their own garage/storage room, not even mentioning the flashlight, a tool for *finding things in the dark.*
And, if we go by the Sweepstakes description, then there will also be a way to AVOID adding Noelle to our party, causing us to reach a hidden door that can’t be unlocked without a key that doesn’t exist in the game. In this case, it would have to come from outside the dark world, either found in chapter 3, or in the light world segments between the two dark worlds.
Chapter 4 being the payoff to the ice palace page would be genuinely kickass, and I kinda hope that happens now.
@@Dorked At first I thought it would be for the chapter 3 secret boss, but now I’m absolutely 100% convinced this is how it will happen instead. It also keeps the maze directly associated with Noelle narratively, as it should be.
I also think there may be a connection between HOW this will occur and Gas Leak theory. Personally, I hate gas leak theory because it seeks to dismiss us seeing Kris literally make a dark fountain on screen as another fake-out, but there’s an element of potential to it too. If Toriel will be in the dark world, then she’s likely to have fire magic. She also called the police, making it possible that the police will show up, particularly Undyne, who is weak to heat. This immediately sets up both a normal and weird route, but it ALSO sets up a way they can convince Toriel and Undyne that the dark world is a dream; it’s a delirium induced by low oxygen due to being in a house fire caused by a gas leak.
Yes, you heard me right, I’m predicting that Kris and Susie will try to play off the dark world as a dream by using the exact thing gas leak theorists claimed would be used to make Kris’ actions a red herring, but also that the chapter ends with a house fire. (To be clear, I’m not saying it ends with the whole house burning down, that might be excessive, but it might need to undergo inspections and cleaning to be deemed safe). Don’t forget too that Kris opened the front door, and dark world matter floods the room like a black smoke, meaning anyone who sees the house could easily be convinced that it’s burning down. Undyne may even try to blame the trouble-maker Susie for starting it, only to be defended by Toriel, showing genuine care for and trust in Susie, which her character arc really needs after establishing the implication of a troubled home and her fondness for Toriel.
The result of all this? Toriel calls an old friend of the family to request that Kris stay over for a little bit, and Noelle may even invite Susie to join the sleepover. It helps connect Kris’ weird actions at the end of each chapter to characters likely to be present, AND gives a valid reason for the next dark world to end up at Noelle’s house and still be consistent regardless of route (we know it isn’t as simple as Noelle just invites Kris over if you did the weird route, for example).
@@GameJam230OMG ARE YOU WORKING FOR TOBY
Maybe the way to avoid adding Noell to the party is the to do the Weird route because after happened in chapter 2 I can see Kris or Susie preventing her from joining to avoid another snow grave incident
Imagine using the shadow mantle there
Dorked and Shayy running to give us updates on the newsletter, i love the frisk sprite btw💜
IT IS OUR DUTY TO SHARE THE NEWS WHILE THE FIRE IS HOT... Shayy is hella fast, though. xD
@@Dorked He lives up to his speedrunner title
Hearing dorked’s high pitched voice with deep rapping in the background… dork
I am never beating the dork allegations, for I embrace them.
interestingly if you go to the actual store page for the striped shirt, the description is different from the one in the newsletter and the coloration looks a bit closer to chara's colors than kris ( you can compare the images side by side and the newsletter one looks noticeably more yellow ). it says "The pattern of a shirt worn by a beloved someone. Your love will become theirs. Their love will become yours." it's similar, but i would like to note how where the shirt looks more chara-esque, it's referring to chara as a beloved someone, whereas kris is kind of outcast in their hometown. and the kris-like shirt image, it calls it a mask over your skin, like how you are pretending to be kris and sort of taking over their life for them in deltarune. the phrases "your love will become theirs" and "their love will become yours" are also swapped in order on the newsletter and store page, for chara your love becomes theirs first, for kris their love becomes yours first. i think this has some wild implications for the dynamic between kris and the player, would like to hear others' thoughts on this.
Woahhhhh woahhhhh wiahhh
Story of undertale
This is very true.
Ello! wanted to point out something out about the last newsletter, so basically the last chapter 5 news had a balloon and its color palette was literally the exact same as the posters of ice E in ice E's pizza and in this chapter 5 news burger/pizzapants is relevant somehow. (sorry if the grammar is bad I was rushing this)
That's actually a really interesting point that lends itself to Ice-E's as a dark world for chapter 5. Fascinating...
I feel as if the “biggest wings of them all” kind of leans into the angel aspect.
Kerdly confirmed people. He only talks like that with krispie cream. We won big
WE WONNNNN
im not even joking when i say "Elly" made me start sobbing
listening to the song in the background and i realize the fucking "i am the mouse" guy from snapcubes soundboard and i laughed
I feel like I learned deep Snapcube lore, and I am all for it.
@@Dorkedwe all should be.
really gotta start studying up on the deep snapcube lore next year
*_i'm trapped_*
That's actually from a song from the Hawaii Part II album from Miracle Musical! iirc it's the song Labyrinth. i remember watching a snapcube stream and hearing that and losing it completely lmao
kerdly possibly being canon is the nost funny and best thing to cone out of this imo
I think the Burgerpants sprite could possibly be at the church, with it looking like he has fruit punch around his mouth, and I could see the wreath hanging around the church somewhere. The church could potentially be open during the festival, some of the people possibly hanging out there.
Dude cammieboi is literally a genius if this is true, ik he predicted the burgerpants and the church to be in separate chapters, but that's still crazy
I was about to edit out the "the" in front of burgerpants before realizing it's actually better that way
"to by, or not to by" reminds me of the valentines card's "good by"...
I'm pretty sure it's just a Toby pun, seeing as it'd still be pronounced "To be", just with more emphasis on the O than the T
@@MeloniestNeon Or Seam is the Valietime's letter person/j
The poem is even formatted in the shape of an angel.
I don't see how this detail adds any new information to the text itself but it's that sort of attention to detail that makes me really respect Toby as a creator
7:17 the Japanese text confirms the speaker is talking to Ralsei (ラルセイ)
While this is late, i love how toby fox's carpet song is the closest thing we have with toby and persona games. I will die a happy man from peak if toby fox does makes a song for persona. It would be more peak if loutus juice or lyn were doing the lyrics
It's interesting because Toby mentioned being a fan of Persona on his tumblr blog, and Deltarune shares a certain vibe with Persona 4, too.
BERDLY IS RETURNING WOOHOO!!!
It also mentions the ice thing Toby is trapped in melting this could hint to Berdly coming back in the wierd route.
I'm both hyped and worried about Chapters 3 and 4 because for one, we'll get hell of new Deltarune Lore to explore. But I know I'm gonna have to avoid Deltarune/Undertale RUclipsrs (like yourself) and the Deltarune/Undertale Subreddit to not get spoiled of anything new. Trust me I got spoiled the Spamton NEO fight because my dumb@#& thought Spamton was like a one off encounter and didn't think to pay attention to his dialog and back track to the beginning area in Chapter 2.
For what it's worth, I'll probably give it some time before I start throwing spoilers around and try to keep thumbnails from being TOO heavy on spoilers so that people can avoid being blindsided. I wanna handle the rollout of new material carefully.
People uncovered snowgrave only a few days or even a week after chapter 2 I believe, until I complete the game for the first time I have to avoid everything
@@Krispykreme15 To be fair, people thought the person who discovered the Wierd Route were either lying or making a Chapter 2 Creepypasta until people saw for themselves.
Dark world Pizzapants....oh no the burgerpants conspiracy.....its real
This is the only time I was upset with a newsletter because it came the day right before my birthday 😔
The berdly dialogue is giving me kerdly vibes… it probably won’t be canon but it would be funny
happy birthday 🥳🎉🎉
I’m just hoping Catti, and Jockington become relevant, at least to the level of Berdly
I think a bunker chapter might actually be a really cool place for Catti because of her ties to the occult.
I’m hoping they become relevant sooner like chapter 4, but yeah that also sounds really cool
0:55 Let's unpack the Undertale/Deltarune Holiday Newsletter 2024!
14:15 this is terrifying… snow angels, Dess making it bigger, Kris’s being bigger than Noelle’s, those last lines. Yeah… adorable story and all but uh oh no-🎹Mari
Has Mari become an expression for fearing the inevitable traumatic murder of a kind character now
@@leedlelel2373 no that’s actually just a coincidence. We just sign our messages since we’re a system and share the account. -🎹Mari
I wonder if the chapter 3 darkners will be brought to castle town, because it doesn't seem like Toriel would be okay with Kris taking alot of their stuff and moving it to the school closet.
I'm really curious to see how the Chapter 3 darkners are handled because it's in Kris' house, ngl.
"Alright I have watched my alloted one video, now I can go to bed to have a healthy and restful sleep"
The devious Dorked notification:
It's interesting how in Deltarune, Asriel is mentioned throughout Hometown by almost everyone, even Onion-San, but Dess is only mentioned by Noelle, with most of the info we got on Dess right now from whatever Noelle said on blogs or websites.
I get the feeling that once Dess does make her official appearance, she going to exploded as the internet "wafui" for month and the likes. GIven she imply to be a tomboy and have relationship(ether plaston ic or romantic) to asriel, yeah it going to be a storm of fan art
I feel like Dess will also appeal to the queer UTDR fans for some reason? I can see her having butch vibes that appeal to sapphic fans in particular. xD
@Dorked given the reaction of asriel(especially his adult form) and ralsei, yeah I cna image there would be "a gay awakening" for the girls or an furry awakening with Dess. Again I can see dess explosioning the furry side of the internet.
I mean Noelle provides her own example of what to expect.
cammyboi8 must be screaming right now
PIZZA KNIGHT MIGHT BE REAL
6:54 I believe Susie is talking to Ralsei! the japanese translation of the E9 dialogue starts with "hehe... Rarusei ni(...)" then he goes on to say "waaーn boku mo suji-tan ga taaisuki dayo~" which is a cutesy, or "baby" way of talking. very in character for Ralsei lol
more deltarune lore... yummy. thanks Toby Radiation Fox
the world is about to explode, we must keep toby fox safe
6:53 I believe the E? in the code are just the character portraits the speaker would be listed on the far left of it however it seams the Best Inu left out the names of the characters saying inferno inferno and the second paragraph
The ^text/ could very well be just a way to organize the text box presentation but I’m not so sure on this one and & is just to separate the text to a second line if exceeding the text box limit
Please correct me if I’m wrong n ya know as I am still trying to learn so I’m not 100% sure
I know this may be wishful thinking but I’m guessing the second set of text boxes is Noelle, Susie, Noelle, Noelle
The 5th one Noelle might be practicing as her or Susie walks off
Also the text does appear to be in order of conversation pre each connected sentence
however this may not even show in game in the order presented & even the order they are shown pre paragraph could only be shown as distraction
I put nothing past the Inu at this point
The Annoying Now Dog might have just got me, after further analysis of the text it could literally all just be between Susie & Lancer
I walked right into their trap card, but that would be too funny if it was🤣
Swap Noelle for Lancer & all the context still fits up to the end of third paragraph set
This is gonna be silly, but I think the bunker is just filled with the Holidays Christmass decorations. Like a huge bunker of Christmas decorations. So big, you could get lost in it.
17:34 ARE WE GONNA GET A DORKED VIDEO ABOUT ONE SHOT???? PLS PLS PLS IT'S ONE OF MY FAV GAMES AAAGHHSHSHSH
I JUST dressed up as Kris for halloween this year, and NOW Toby releases the proper Kris/Chara shirt?!!! he's trolling me for sure
hey at least you could brag about dressing up as kris in a pre-kris shirt era
Something I’d like to point out is the “To by or not to by” dialogue, because this is an intentional mispelling of “Buy” as “By”.
This is notable, because the secret Valentine’s card ALSO did the same thing, with “Good By” at the end. The capitalization is different, but I think it’s worth thinking about.
STOPPPPPPP TORIEL’S LITTLE SNOW OUTFIT IS SOOOO CUTE AND SHES STICKING HER TONGUE OUT TO CATCH SNOWFLAKES?!?!?! Ive always related to her way too much to my own good but now I do even more!!!
My eyes being accustomed to dark mode for years now really suffered with this newsletter xD
Oh my god, I didn't realize that the Kris/Chara shirt message was customized to your name- mine is Dess and I was wondering if there was some sort of Dess lore connection 😂
yup. almost had a heart attack when my actual name was mentioned before i remembered theyre customized lol
Since the (adorable) animation sprites for the newsletter all seem to be from Undertale specifically, it reminds me of a theory question of sorts I’ve had for a while now:
1. Toby assured us that Undertale’s ending has not been altered- ergo if you managed a happy ending, the characters are still enjoying that.
2. Undertale and Deltarune are somehow connected, with many theorizing that Sans (and ostensibly Papyrus) are from Deltarune to begin with.
However, I haven’t seen any discourse surrounding how 1 & 2 might affect each other? For instance, if the Sans in Undertale is from Deltarune… what is he doing back in Deltarune, now? Is the Sans we see in Deltarune a younger version of Undertale Sans, chronologically? That doesn’t really make sense, but neither does Sans (and hopefully Papyrus) being yoinked from Undertale’s ending back to Deltarune, especially since the player might have picked Undertale’s genocide route- and even if not, that ending is supposed to be untouched either way!
I have… no idea how much sense this makes? But I think it’s interesting, at least- or maybe it’s just driven me past the point of rationality!
I love newsletters, Dorked anayalses and upcoming Deltarune releases! I am the newest new theory!
the comedic timing of the song in the beginning was perfect lmao
Krerdly will become real in DELTARUNE's future chapters....
I think Berdly is talking to Susie
Super hyped for the Persona analysises when they're ready 😄
i kind of assumed that the pizzapants sprite is him presenting something while working in the festival? it could be ice-e related if they are catering for it like you suggested or are using it to promote themselves bc of how big of an event it is. or maybe he had to get another job in it.
also DESS GOT ONE (1) LINE OF DIALOGUE THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE (as im writing this i realized that her giving the snow angel bigger wings MIGHT be Foreshadowing of her trying to give some power to noelle through smth related to the angel but i could also reading too much into it and it's just meant to be cute (which it is))
the christmas stuff in the chapter 4 section could just be a red herring, the newsletter has a christmas theme so it would make sense if toby decided to show things that are related to christmas, we could visit noelle's house at the end of the chapter.
as for the dark world i highly think it will be the church just because of rudy going to the church on the same day chapter 4 is supposed to take place, as well as the cup darkner and Alvin mentioning that there is juice in the church.
so it appears that inferno means hell, or atleast fire, and if the holiday mansion is the chapter 4 dark world it wouldn't make sense for a fire enemy to be in a place whose residents like cold, especially mayor holiday, however it makes total sense for it to be in the church based on the religious meaning of the word
Immagine if the house like carpet vocals were used in a future secret boss theme
wait is that burning mens soul
;) It felt appropriate given the first bit in the newsletter.
16:54 I'm in the house, like carpet. Carpet. Carpet.
I wonder if the Dreemurr couch will turn into the bridge
Lancer and Rouxls are already in your pocket when you leave Castle Town at the end of Chapter 2. They're definitely gonna be reoccurring characters throughout the whole game
I like the Implications that Jevil may have gotten more than Seam's Eye... It shows that Jevil is still Dangerous and was most likely holding himself back...
YAY! Love to see it!
Loop pfp!!
i cant believe that like the alphabet we will "c" chapters 3 and 4 in less than a year
(less than 6 months if we are being real)
Toriel got that ushanka drip
Deltarune fans never fail to squeeze the tiniest bit of lore out of the most menial developer tidbits and it never fails to make my day
As far as I can tell the house like carpet meming started in the persona community a little over a year ago. With videos ranging from 1 year to 4 months ago. Toby fox jumped in around a month ago with his take on it.
18:00 agree 100%, would love a video about that
Hm, how very interesting, we’re getting closer, to see which Theories were at least accurate and which will be crushed, i will look forward to it.
Also, interesting projects you mentioned, i will be looking forward to those too.
By the way, I can’t remember if I’ve asked this before, but have you read the IDW Sonic Comics?
For some odd reason, I just feel like toby would release chapter 4 and 5 on january 1st (This is 100000000000% not true.)
I think we can expect it by Undertale's 10th anniversary at the latest, tbh, but we'll see.
plot twist is that the holiday manor teasers are red herrings
News letter is always good 👍
pizza pants is the knight, its why he has so many sprites
A winter/Christmas dark world (either on the mansion, town hall or 'Sans if you wanna be funny) always felt like an obvious path, both for the Holidays and for Snowdin call backs, but I thought it was going to be later in the game like chapter 5 or 6.
The future darkworld and black friday merch was really intriguing to see anyhow so ch3&4 is guaranteed to come out in 2025 i speculated that it'll come out at near the end of spring cause by then the frozen dog would have fully thawed out (just a guess of course)
Yo this is an amazing video, I loved it :)
Thanks a bunch. c:
Yeah, what a newsletter this turned out to be, eh? I think my favorite part is easily Temmie's art of the dog incased in the ice. I dunno why, but the concept alone is way too funny to me.
8:00 i mean i dont think berdly would talk about susie like that after chapter 2
Lore of New DESS Lore? Dark World Hints?! | Deltarune Holiday Newsletter momentum 100
When I read the newsletter it was crazy when it said my name. I didn't expect that at all lol 😂
Hey, who made that cover in the background of the Elly and Dess story? It’s really sweet 😊
When do you plan on uploading the Undertale Yellow vods because I at least want to hear you talk about it if not anytime soon
I actually have the first VOD up, but I have to go through and do chapter markers, etc, which I might start doing tomorrow. Meant to do it sooner, but I got a bit busy.
i cant believe this is happening
I'd say that Deltarune could not be considered the biggest Game Maker game, because we just got UFO 50, which is literally 50 games in one Game Maker project.
I don't know why Mossmouth can release a single GM project that is literally 50 games in one, while Toby is struggling to have more than 2 chapters in a single project.
14:03 Wait... say that again.
i wish skilkskrong had a newsletter..
"To by or not to by" is pronounced in Japanese like "Toby or not Toby". A parody of "To be or not to be." Nice pun. :3
But it COULD still also have a third shop-related context too, which would make it, like, a triple inverse pun! 😀
10:08 please Toby tell me it's azzy
Ok, but why does the poem kinda resemble a person? It looks like someone in a hat and skirt
Your Noelle voice was cute
Is that Sheep Raider PS1 music I hear?
Here me out: at the beginning, toby is in a very, very, familiar ice, the same as berdly, as stated by dorked, and it also not to put the dog in the defroster, you know how you unfreeze chicken? A defroster, basically, I think toby is saying not to abort the weird route.
11:48 Also asriel shirt!
I really really want Persona analyses from you and I agree that Morgana is so unfairly overhated. Never understood the rage toward the lil furball.
I think he just annoys people, and there are some parts in P5's writing for him that grate on people (e.g. the Okumura arc). While Mona isn't my favorite Phantom Thief, I do like him well enough, and most of the issues with him aren't even there in Tactica, which had a really good showing for Morgana. Plus, he was one of the best party members there. xD
Maybe seam section for their tail is a refute jevil if you pacist jevil you get jevil tail
IF THERE'S TOOMANY HITS ON MAH BLUNT I WON'T SPARK IT ‼❗🔥🗣